Installed HID Fogs...

[Element]

Found the OEM fogs to be useless in my 08 MS3 so I added HIDs to them. I switched my fogs to 3000K Yellow HIDs and also pulled out the metal tab that was in place. Much more usable light now.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/Elementality987/PC243603.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/Elementality987/PC243602.jpg

[mr_mazda329]

Wow...looks really good. I used the cheap luminics. I wish they were that bright. I'm sure snow helps with the saturation tho. Did it take long to install?

[BlkWidow]

(thumb) Nice

[AllLostThings]

Looks great! I wanted to do something very similar. I'd also be interested to know how long it took.

[my3needsaname]

They look like they're actually useful now!
How'd you get them to go on without the headlights?

[Element]

Wow...looks really good. I used the cheap luminics. I wish they were that bright. I'm sure snow helps with the saturation tho. Did it take long to install?

I had regular bulbs before as well and they were nowhere as bright or as yellow. The snow does help some, but I should take a pic on a dry road at night and you will the saturation is pretty much identical.


Looks great! I wanted to do something very similar. I'd also be interested to know how long it took.

The hardest part was removing the metal tabs inside the foglights. I used a pair of needle nose pliers and compressed the tab until it was small enough to come out. You have to be careful as the metal can actually scratch off the reflective finish inside the housing.

The HIDs themselves were plug and play and the hardest part is making the wiring look clean. It took all of 30 minutes to install the HIDs and thats because I am anal about wiring.

[Element]

They look like they're actually useful now!
How'd you get them to go on without the headlights?

Yes they are MUCH more useful. I did the independent foglight mod, and used the jumper method.

[oaklandopen]

Yes they are MUCH more useful. I did the independent foglight mod, and used the jumper method.

so im guessing you don't have the gt model then...cuz last i saw there is no howto for the gt's

[my3needsaname]

so im guessing you don't have the gt model then...cuz last i saw there is no howto for the gt's
Awwwwww...frick.

[Element]

so im guessing you don't have the gt model then...cuz last i saw there is no howto for the gt's

I have a Canadian MS3 which only came in the GT trim and yes there is a how to. There are actually two methods. One is the firewall wire method, and the second is the jumper method. I prefer the jumper method because it is easily reversible with no evidence left behind.

[the intimidator]

looks good like how bright it is good job

[240ka]

so im guessing you don't have the gt model then...cuz last i saw there is no howto for the gt's

there is a how to for the GT which requires you to put a wire through the firewall and such

http://www. mazda 3forums .com/index.php?topic=11730.0]

[Element]

there is a how to for the GT which requires you to put a wire through the firewall and such

http://www. mazda 3forums .com/index.php?topic=11730.0]

There is an alternative method that requires a simple jumper wire in the fuse box under the hood. Saves the hassle of running a wire through the firewall and doesn't require splicing into the factory harness.

[arkenzo]

There is an alternative method that requires a simple jumper wire in the fuse box under the hood. Saves the hassle of running a wire through the firewall and doesn't require splicing into the factory harness.

Hey element, can you show me where the how-to is? Also, what metal tabs on the fogs did you adjust? Did you adjust the height of your foglight beams?

[Element]

Hey element, can you show me where the how-to is? Also, what metal tabs on the fogs did you adjust? Did you adjust the height of your foglight beams?

If you look in your foglight housings you will see a metal cylinder. I removed those.

I can't link directly but here are the pics showing what needs to be done. You will remove the fog light relay and then will be adding in the purple wire with spade connectors. I know that the car this is being done on is not an MS3 but rather a regular Mazda3 with OEM HIDs there are a number of MS3 GT owners that have done this and found it works great! Your fog lights also stay on for about 5 seconds after you turn your car off and then shut off with this mod. The nice thing is that it is easily reversible back to stock for those dealership visits.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0913.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0915.jpg

[hectik1]

Damn, this won't work with any of the sport models?(argh)

[AllLostThings]

That's great thank you! I guess I'll plan to do this mod when I change out the front bumper.

[Jarod7920]

what size bulbs are those cause i need to get a set and use my extra set of HID balasts from my old car.

[PCspeed3]

can I ask how you got the little metal piece out of the fogs?

EDIT: Nevermind I just read your post from earlier and found it. -thanks

[SHAGwagn]

subbin, that method is amazing!

[RC08MS3]

If you look in your foglight housings you will see a metal cylinder. I removed those.

I can't link directly but here are the pics showing what needs to be done. You will remove the fog light relay and then will be adding in the purple wire with spade connectors. I know that the car this is being done on is not an MS3 but rather a regular Mazda3 with OEM HIDs there are a number of MS3 GT owners that have done this and found it works great! Your fog lights also stay on for about 5 seconds after you turn your car off and then shut off with this mod. The nice thing is that it is easily reversible back to stock for those dealership visits.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0913.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0915.jpg

Will this work for a sport model? someone asked but it was never answered(or i missed it and cant read) but i would like to know. i have a sport with aftermarket HID's and my fog HID's are on the way.

[Element]

Will this work for a sport model? someone asked but it was never answered(or i missed it and cant read) but i would like to know. i have a sport with aftermarket HID's and my fog HID's are on the way.


As far as I know, no it will not. I could be wrong though.

[viper117630]

What kind of HID fogs did you use? They look pretty bad ass (headbang)

[Antoniogut]

damn those are bright....are those 35 or 55w? I just ordered apexcone 35w 3000k. Hopefully they will look like that! haha...you have a pic with ur headlights on too?

[viper117630]

damn those are bright....are those 35 or 55w? I just ordered apexcone 35w 3000k. Hopefully they will look like that! haha...you have a pic with ur headlights on too?

You will have to post pics when you get them installed. I paid $50 for the
Luminics titanium white fogs and they just don't seem worth it. I might as well make the jump to real HID's.

[Speed3Rookie]

If you look in your foglight housings you will see a metal cylinder. I removed those.

I can't link directly but here are the pics showing what needs to be done. You will remove the fog light relay and then will be adding in the purple wire with spade connectors. I know that the car this is being done on is not an MS3 but rather a regular Mazda3 with OEM HIDs there are a number of MS3 GT owners that have done this and found it works great! Your fog lights also stay on for about 5 seconds after you turn your car off and then shut off with this mod. The nice thing is that it is easily reversible back to stock for those dealership visits.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0913.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0915.jpg

Where is the fog light relay? Is it marked?

Thanks

[Element]

Where is the fog light relay? Is it marked?

Thanks

The second photo shows where the fog relay would have been...

You have to remove the relay to put the 2nd spade in the right spot.

[jodacoto]

where can i buy HID for the fogs? what part #

[Speed3Rookie]

The second photo shows where the fog relay would have been...

You have to remove the relay to put the 2nd spade in the right spot.

Thanks :)

[jay32m]

Man those look so much brighter than mine...I have to remove that metal ring now.

[arkenzo]

where can i buy HID for the fogs? what part #
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon-HID-KIT-MAZDA-3-5-6-Protege-3-5-H1-H3-H7-9006-H4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a543Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1 Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem39 0018574257QQitemZ390018574257QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fT ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3704wt_1141 they are 9006 for 07+ mazda3

[my3needsaname]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon-HID-KIT...#ht_3704wt_1141 they are 9006 for 07+ mazda3
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon-HID-KIT-MAZDA-3-5-6-Protege-3-5-H1-H3-H7-9006-H4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a543Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1 Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem39 0018574257QQitemZ390018574257QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fT ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3704wt_1141) OR H11's

[arkenzo]

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[/URL] OR H11's

aren't pre-07's H11 and 07 and after are 9006?

[my3needsaname]

aren't pre-07's H11 and 07 and after are 9006?
I was told my car could go H11 or 9006 but H11's are better....(huh):confused:(huh)

[arkenzo]

I was told my car could go H11 or 9006 but H11's are better....(huh):confused:(huh)
if your car is newer than 2006, you need 9006 bulbs. Only 04-06 models used H11 fogs.

[my3needsaname]

if your car is newer than 2006, you need 9006 bulbs. Only 04-06 models used H11 fogs.
Huh. Alright, good thing I didn't order the H11's like I was going to. :D

[paylew]

Will this work for a sport model? someone asked but it was never answered(or i missed it and cant read) but i would like to know. i have a sport with aftermarket HID's and my fog HID's are on the way.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123708442

Thar go.

[seattleMS3]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon-HID-KIT-MAZDA-3-5-6-Protege-3-5-H1-H3-H7-9006-H4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a543Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1 Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem39 0018574257QQitemZ390018574257QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fT ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3704wt_1141 they are 9006 for 07+ mazda3

so you can buy 9006 or H11?
what is the difference?

[peeaanuut]

there is a slight difference in the locking mechanism of the bulb. But it is not enough to really be a difference.

Just so others know. DDM performance has HID kits starting at around $35

[seattleMS3]

there is a slight difference in the locking mechanism of the bulb. But it is not enough to really be a difference.

Just so others know. DDM performance has HID kits starting at around $35

thanks. so ill get the 9006. but i have the GT so do i need a kit or just the bulbs. im really uneducated about lights. thanks

[seattleMS3]

will these be the ones im looking for?

http://www.shopxenon.com/vi_80.htm

[dkswim]

looks good

[MM BOOST]

Just so others know. DDM Tuning has HID kits starting at around $35

You are the fuckin man!! Just went on their site and found the hid kits for DIRT CHEAP! Man i didn't even know they carried all that. Now I can get my hid fog lights and replacement 55w 6k headlights and be done with it for less than $100

[dkswim]

is your jumped method on all the time. key on lights on...

[peeaanuut]

You are the fuckin man!! Just went on their site and found the hid kits for DIRT CHEAP! Man i didn't even know they carried all that. Now I can get my hid fog lights and replacement 55w 6k headlights and be done with it for less than $100


On the cheaper kits, I would use the extra harness for 55w. I got their $100 kit and have had no problems without the extra harness on the 55w, but have heard of people that have gotten cheap kits and the 55w burned the wires.

No saying their low end kits will do that but just a precaution.

[arkenzo]

On the cheaper kits, I would use the extra harness for 55w. I got their $100 kit and have had no problems without the extra harness on the 55w, but have heard of people that have gotten cheap kits and the 55w burned the wires.

No saying their low end kits will do that but just a precaution.

How do you think their raptor $40 kit will do for my foglights ? i hope them ish's dont burn up lol.

[PCspeed3]

OP, may I ask how you got the metal tab out, it looks to have a screw on the inside of the bulb compartment......

[viper117630]

is your jumped method on all the time. key on lights on...

Good question, I would like to know this too

[dkswim]

from what i can see it apeares that way. i think it is that way but i was just wanting confermation.

[MM BOOST]

I have hids stock because I have an MS3GT....so I am just getting 55w replacement bulbs. For the fogs, I am planning on doing the 35w 3k kit.

[Element]

from what i can see it apeares that way. i think it is that way but i was just wanting confermation.

Yeah it is key on, fogs on with the jumper method. Also they will stay on for about 5 seconds after you shut the car off.

As for the metal tab, I just used a pair of needle nose pliers and worked it back and forth until it broke off.

[BrianFiebig]

So, let me make sure I have this right:
I CAN use the jumper method with a Sport with stock Halogens.
If I wanted to change out all the halogens for HID, I would need 2 (or 3...) kits:
1 kit in 3000K yellow, type 9006 for the fogs
1 Kit in 6000K white, type H7 for the primary headlights
OPTIONAL (or is it insane/legal/whatever) 1 kit in 6000K white, type 9005, for the high beams.

Has anyone actually gotten the kits from the ebay listing? Seems to be the cheapest, and of course, I question cheap. If people have gotten them from the ebay listing and they actually work, dont ignite the engine bay,etc, then Ill get the fog kit, make sure they work alright, then go for the rest. Otherwise, where exactly did people get their kits? I went to DDM's page, apexzone, and a few others, and got lost, confused, and annoyed.

Thanks

[R-X-R]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2480/hidbulbh42py0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/hidbulbh42py0.jpg/1/w360.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img502/hidbulbh42py0.jpg/1/)

is it ok to break the tab on hid? will it be annoying to opposite drivers? anyone tried?

[dkswim]

im sure you get a lot of light out of replacing the highs with hid but cycles are what kill hids and in the high beam its not a permennt on its on for a min or two and then there is the flashing and with the 30 sec startup time of hids its not that advantages to have in the high.

[peeaanuut]

just put a nice pair of luminics in the hights. I rarely ever use my highs anymore but I have a pair of Luminics simulated 3000k bulbs and they look bad ass. They light up really good but also the fill that area with a yellow glow when off and they stand out in pictures.

[Antoniogut]

Installed! These are the DDm tuning lights. Apexcone. They are 35w 3000k hid kit. EAAAAAAAASY install. No need to take off the bumper. Had plenty of room if you just take off the entire mud/water guard from underneath. The middle part. It gives alot of acces to those fog lights area.

The pics are comparos of the HID vs stock. You cant tell THAT much cuz its day. but tonight i will get some more pics...the one on the left (lookin at it but its really the right fog) is the HId and the other is a stock comparison. At night they are very yellow, kinda like the OP. Will get pics.

pic 1 hid
pic 2 stock
pic 3 stock
pic 4 hid

[Antoniogut]

more pics...this is where i mounted the ballasts. I doublie sticky taped it to the inner plastic area which i dont think will harm by melting/etc. I touched it and it didnt get too hot so i think it will all be ok.



does anyone know how to raise the fogs?

[dkswim]

there are three screws on the fog loosen them up and you should be able to ratate the fog. can you post a night pic Antonilgut

[Antoniogut]

here ya go....

still need to raise the fogs...it seems they have a bright glare....sexy none the less...and i went with 3000k for usability over looks. I do wish the lights themselves were orangish...like lexus type...i thought this would be the correct temp but i suppose not.

[viper117630]

here ya go....

still need to raise the fogs...it seems they have a bright glare....sexy none the less...and i went with 3000k for usability over looks. I do wish the lights themselves were orangish...like lexus type...i thought this would be the correct temp but i suppose not.

Looks really good man! Did you remove the tab surrounding the bulb or did you leave it in?

[UHATEIT]

those look sick, but man they dont look like 3000K yellow, looks more like 6000K and they almost match the headlight in the first night shot. You should tell the seller to send the right color.

Looks like they reflect a tiny bit of yellow on the grounf but dont looks like 3000K yellow. Nonetheless great job on the install!

[Sport6]

Yea they look yellow on the ground but the shot showing the car they look white. maybe its just the camera?

Either way awesome job! I really need to do this. I am going to get the 3000k as well.

Anyone think the fog overlays would melt with HIDs down there?

[oaklandopen]

Yea they look yellow on the ground but the shot showing the car they look white. maybe its just the camera?

Either way awesome job! I really need to do this. I am going to get the 3000k as well.

Anyone think the fog overlays would melt with HIDs down there?

HIDs don't get as hot as halogens. You should be fine

[Sport6]

Thanks, I like the look of the yellow lens so I want to keep it on there, even with the 3000k hid. Hopefully I can get some soon and have a day thats not snowing or -5*

[Antoniogut]

Looks really good man! Did you remove the tab surrounding the bulb or did you leave it in?

i left it in. im sure it has a purpose...im just gonna raise em up

[Antoniogut]

ya the camera didnt capture all of the colors but ya the lights themselves arent yellow but they project yellow.

[BrianFiebig]

NOTE TO ALL!

Element's Jumper wire method DOES WORK on Speed3 Sports with factory halogens. Just tested it with a length of 16 gauge speaker wire. Need to get some spades to finalize it, but it works.
Pictoral goodness:

[Element]

Glad it worked, but it is not my method lol. I just found it on another forum.

[RC08MS3]

NOTE TO ALL!

Element's Jumper wire method DOES WORK on Speed3 Sports with factory halogens. Just tested it with a length of 16 gauge speaker wire. Need to get some spades to finalize it, but it works.
Pictoral goodness:

Good find bro, i was to lazy to test but im gonna do it now!! just got my 3000k installed on Saturday. i didnt remove the tab, but im thinkin about it.

My 3000k also look white when looking at them, but project yellow. kinda strange

[Sport6]

Good find bro, i was to lazy to test but im gonna do it now!! just got my 3000k installed on Saturday. i didnt remove the tab, but im thinkin about it.

My 3000k also look white when looking at them, but project yellow. kinda strange

What kit did you end up buying?

[Nliiitend1]

On the Sport:

Does this mod "hardwire" the lights to be ON whenever the key is in the "ON" position the way it does on the GTs?

I just want independent control (meaning that I can turn them ON or OFF) of the fogs without having the HIDs on, but alas this isn't what happens with this jumper method...

[UHATEIT]

NOTE TO ALL!

Element's Jumper wire method DOES WORK on Speed3 Sports with factory halogens. Just tested it with a length of 16 gauge speaker wire. Need to get some spades to finalize it, but it works.
Pictoral goodness:

you da man. I will try this tonight!


On the Sport:

Does this mod "hardwire" the lights to be ON whenever the key is in the "ON" position the way it does on the GTs?

I just want independent control (meaning that I can turn them ON or OFF) of the fogs without having the HIDs on, but alas this isn't what happens with this jumper method...


hold up is this true? I want them on when the key is on. Will this make it so you can't turn them on and off without the headlights being on?

[Sport6]

hold up is this true? I want them on when the key is on. Will this make it so you can't turn them on and off without the headlights being on?

Isn't that they way they are configured now? I believe it should make it so you can turn them on without having to turn on the headlights.

[UHATEIT]

Isn't that they way they are configured now? I believe it should make it so you can turn them on without having to turn on the headlights.

I would like them to stay on without having to turn the headlights on. But still have control over the switch to allow them to turn on or off without having the headlights on. Basically, this mod keeps them on, BUT can you still turn them off or will they ALWAYS stay on?

[MM BOOST]

Well damn that sucks! so if I got 3k hid fog lights, they won't look yellow? See I love the yellow fog light look like on the IS300s. Is there anyway to capture this other than putting the yellow fog light covers on (I had these on before and was not a fan).

[Nliiitend1]

I would like them to stay on without having to turn the headlights on. But still have control over the switch to allow them to turn on or off without having the headlights on. Basically, this mod keeps them on, BUT can you still turn them off or will they ALWAYS stay on?

When I tried this mod, it made the fogs come on when the key was in the ON position, but there was no way to turn them on or off independently (the foglight switch on the instrument stalk no longer did anything). When you take the key out, they stay on for about 5-10 seconds and then they shut off, but there is no way to turn them off without taking the key out of the ignition (at least this was MY experience).

[Sport6]

When I tried this mod, it made the fogs come on when the key was in the ON position, but there was no way to turn them on or off independently (the foglight switch on the instrument stalk no longer did anything). When you take the key out, they stay on for about 5-10 seconds and then they shut off, but there is no way to turn them off without taking the key out of the ignition (at least this was MY experience).

hmmm that sucks, I wonder if going through the hassle of the other way results in the same thing?

[UHATEIT]

When I tried this mod, it made the fogs come on when the key was in the ON position, but there was no way to turn them on or off independently (the foglight switch on the instrument stalk no longer did anything). When you take the key out, they stay on for about 5-10 seconds and then they shut off, but there is no way to turn them off without taking the key out of the ignition (at least this was MY experience).


cool cool. I'll probably just gio ahead and do the mod. I wont mind them staying on during the daytime. More of a looks mod it seems to me which is fine.

[GhostMercury]

I want to do this "fog light always on mod" (in my GT), but I'm not sure what is being done. To me I'm thinking about it as removing a fuse, and replacing it with a hard wire. Shouldn't there be a fuse put in the line so nothing burns up? Or am I being to cautious?

[RC08MS3]

i went with the DDM tuning apexcone 35w 3000k, regular ballast. yea idk what to say about why they are white, but glare yellow. They are deffinatly bright though, no doubt. They cover the 6000K low beam i have were they meet.

[Nliiitend1]

I want to do this "fog light always on mod" (in my GT), but I'm not sure what is being done. To me I'm thinking about it as removing a fuse, and replacing it with a hard wire. Shouldn't there be a fuse put in the line so nothing burns up? Or am I being to cautious?

You're actually removing a relay, and hard wiring a relay point that otherwise would have situational current interruption.

You're being too cautious. ;)

[GhostMercury]

thanks for the answer...makes sense now

[GhostMercury]

I'll have to do this then, I just need to get some wanabe HID bulbs until spring when I can get a HID Fog kit

[MM BOOST]

Well damn that sucks! so if I got 3k hid fog lights, they won't look yellow? See I love the yellow fog light look like on the IS300s. Is there anyway to capture this other than putting the yellow fog light covers on (I had these on before and was not a fan).

[RC08MS3]

I'll have to do this then, I just need to get some wanabe HID bulbs until spring when I can get a HID Fog kit

the price you can get an HID kit why spend the money for regular bulbs? got my 3000k for $63 bucks shipped, with lifetime warranty on em.

[RC08MS3]

They look more yellow if you take the metal tab from the inside out. Well thats what ive gather from the pics.

[Element]

I should take a pic of my HID bulbs as the gas inside the capsule is actually yellow. My foglights even before the overlays look yellow, and project yellow. I removed the capsule to get a wider beam, and added the overlays after.

[BrianFiebig]

I'll have to check the whole always on thing. I dont think it would be a bad thing. Picking up spades at Radio Shack on my way to work tonite, see what becomes of it. Will post answers in the next day or so.

[iredremix]

looks good man. i have the same exact setup but i used yellow tints and paint on top.

[MM BOOST]

They look more yellow if you take the metal tab from the inside out. Well thats what ive gather from the pics.

how would this make a fog light bulb look more yellow?

[BrianFiebig]

OK, got a real wire with spades on. Same effect, they are always on regardless. Got to thinking on the way home that with modification, the relay might work the way we want it to. The trick is figuring out what post on the relay does what. there are 2 posts that run Fore/Aft at the forward part, and 2 that run left/right on the rear part. The forward left/right post is obviously the one that the relay feeds power to to turn on the fogs. (We can call this post 4) The other 3 posts all have to feed power into the relay in order for it to flip power to post 4 and turn on the fogs. SO, it would seem to me that if the post that gets its signal from the master headlight switch (thus, only providing power to the relay when the headlight knob is fully in the on position) and then remove the post, and replace it with a wire or post that connects it to, say the foglight switch post, we would retain the turn off with the highbeams on feature, and the power to the fogs would be determined solely by the position of the fog switch. MEaning, they would immediatly turn off when you pulled the key, be turned on when the switch is moved to the on position, and still turn off when the highs are triggered. I COULD go out in the blinkin snow and play move a wire around while dicking with the light controls, but if someone already knows what post does what (and someone has to, if they figured out you can splice a wire from a hot point to that #4 hole and get the fogs to come on independantly), I would be willing to go get a spare relay and play frankenstien.
Alternatively, simply by running a wire from the fog switch hole to the fog power hole (#4 again...) you would get the same effect, but loose the off with the highbeams on feature. Ideas? Thoughts? Wiring diagrams?


EDIT: Sorry about the rambling and poor grammar/spelling. Just got home from work, and im tired, cold, cranky, and sober.

[Sport6]

Hmmm that would work, just how involved it would be to get it to work is the question. I will look in the shop manual to see if they have any info.

[BrianFiebig]

Involved wouldnt be too bad if you successfully identified the posts. MEasure the distance between the posts (Oh PLEASE DEAR LORD make them the 2 side by side posts on the front side of the relay) cut the offending relay down to that length (Dremel tool or tin snips?) and then fold it over. Solder it down and file the joint so its clean. Done. Or snap the pecker off and solder a wire in.

[Nliiitend1]

I've thought about modifying the relay, but never got around to trying it out...

Even if the necessary posts aren't right next to one another, it might not be too difficult to solder a little jumper into the relay.

[BrianFiebig]

correct. Of course, now that I have had some food and a few pints of beer and my mental processes are back to normal, I realize you wouldnt even need to hack off the offending post. Or solder it for that matter. A simple double loop splice would work just fine, as the offending post would be constantly powered by the fog switch post regardless of the signal it was getting from the hole. Advantage, you dont have to go buy another relay (which im sure will cost you your firstborne) and when it comes time for safety inspections, dealership visits, just pull the relay out, slide the wire off, replace, reverse when done. Take about 5 seconds to measure how much insulation you need to keep, strip off about 3 inches of insulation from each end of the wire, and twist on.

Migraines are wonderfully focusing arent they....

[BrianFiebig]

OK, relay modification is a non starter. Spent an hour frosting myself. The post that is parrallel to #4 is the Power in, a connection here produces the same effects as the standard method of wire bypass. The left hand of the other 2 posts does nothing that I can tell, must be the high beam cutoff post. The right hand is the stalk control, it responds the same as it would with the factory relay in. The only "correct" way to do this seems to be the surgery to the harness method.(deadhorse

[Nliiitend1]

Doh!

Well, it was worth a shot. Thanks for freezing a bit in the name of progress! :)

[dkswim]

one of the how to on the other forum has all that info and they run the triger wire back and into the sterring column

[dkswim]

hmmm cut off for the high beam... that is something i want to get around.

[speed3guy]

wow those look incredible! With every pic I see... makes me want HIDS more and more!

[viper117630]

So today I was experimenting with the relay and no luck. I couldn't figure out where the fog light switch came into play. What I ended up doing was buying a new relay from Radio Shack and using the Illumination fuse under the glove box to turn them on or off. Now they go on with the parking lights and stay on with headlights/high beams. Nice thing is they aren't running all the time.

[wakeboarddude]

If you look in your foglight housings you will see a metal cylinder. I removed those.

I can't link directly but here are the pics showing what needs to be done. You will remove the fog light relay and then will be adding in the purple wire with spade connectors. I know that the car this is being done on is not an MS3 but rather a regular Mazda3 with OEM HIDs there are a number of MS3 GT owners that have done this and found it works great! Your fog lights also stay on for about 5 seconds after you turn your car off and then shut off with this mod. The nice thing is that it is easily reversible back to stock for those dealership visits.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0913.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/chrisvidecak/Other/Cars/Mazda3/IMG_0915.jpg


Did you use an 18 gauge wire for the purple wire?