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DCmonkey

12-27-2008, 10:54 AM

so ive been constantly been getting this P0660 code and and p0314 O2 sensor code, i dont care about the o2 cuz i already know the fix to that but WTF does it mean

p0660= Intake man tuning control ckt open (bank 1)

can anyone simplify please??

MSP_4_CODY

12-27-2008, 11:21 AM

what intake mani are you running?

Metallic36

12-28-2008, 02:20 AM

Here are his mods.. (found in another thread)

anyway my MSP is pretty much stock except a injen CAI and hard pipes minus the hot pipe and a Greddy type RS BOV (which is now for SALE) but im lookin to change that soon.
i already bought a couple of things
AEM boost gauge
SU gauge pod
SU FMM
TurboXS type-H hybrid 50/50 bov-rcv
TurboXS greddy to XS type-H adapter
Apex-i auto TT
8000k HID's

DCmonkey

12-29-2008, 02:25 AM

^^^^^^^Danm you are good......you ARE good.^^^^^^^ yeh my car is pretty much bone stock except the intercooler to TB charge pipe. its the OEM manifold but by the sounds of this i guess i might soon be in the market for a PG mani im guessin??????

FunkyCold5

12-29-2008, 09:45 AM

Are you just trying to figure out how to clear the CEL or do you actually have issues with the engine?

Does it hesitate at all when you accelerate? Or seem like the engine cuts on and off when you reach boost?

Our cars run RICH, so it could be a leak in the seal/gasket of the intake mani. But, if you don't have the hesitation or on/off jerk @ boost, then it's something else.

Andrew

DCmonkey

12-29-2008, 09:33 PM

well all in all the car actually feels fine, i know how to clear codes i have the obd2 scan tool at home. my question is if anyone knows what that code means exactly I.E where to pinpoint where the problem lies or if anyone has had this trouble code before and fixed it i would greatly appreciate some insight. i feel a SLIGHT and i mean very slight hesitation when i hit boost.......

please bear with me im new to tuning mazdas, ive been a honda/DSM head up until now

bazooka joe

12-29-2008, 09:35 PM

lean? i thought they ran uber rich???

DCmonkey

12-30-2008, 09:15 AM

............ dunno as far as i know and from what i have gathered the MSP's run richer than donald trump

BOOSTR

12-30-2008, 09:57 AM

P0660....Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Control Circuit (Bank 1)

check the connections of the solenoids on the bracket bolted to the 1st & 3rd runners of the intake manifold. make sure they are snug and or disconnect and clean them.

bazooka joe

12-30-2008, 11:28 AM

Are you just trying to figure out how to clear the CEL or do you actually have issues with the engine?

Does it hesitate at all when you accelerate? Or seem like the engine cuts on and off when you reach boost?

Our cars run lean, so it could be a leak in the seal/gasket of the intake mani. But, if you don't have the hesitation or on/off jerk @ boost, then it's something else.

Andrew

lean?

FunkyCold5

12-30-2008, 02:54 PM

Correction. RICH. Our cars run RICH.

My bad. You guys keeping me honest, that's good.

DCmonkey

01-11-2009, 10:45 PM

any advice????

Metallic36

01-11-2009, 10:57 PM

P0660 Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Control Circuit/Open (Bank 1) - Has the VTCS or VICS been messed with?
Check your plugs on the top of the IM and make sure they are plugged in.

Make sure you don't have any cracks in your vacuum hoses or piping.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123682162&highlight=p0660

Also found out that the P0660 code refers directly to the VICS solenoid.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123660907&highlight=p0660

And while you're at it, maybe clean the EGR valve.

bgibb68

01-11-2009, 11:01 PM

are the codes dif between the dif models of proteges....for the p5 is show p0660 as vics problems

edit: and metalic beat another person to the punch....GRRR

Metallic36

01-11-2009, 11:11 PM

LOL :D And from what I know, or have experienced, all the codes are the same between the models, etc.

are the codes dif between the dif models of proteges....for the p5 is show p0660 as vics problems

edit: and metalic beat another person to the punch....GRRR

DCmonkey

01-12-2009, 12:51 AM

once again metallic you my friend are freakin awesome, ill sheck it in the mornin

MSP2003.5_Nick

01-13-2009, 05:32 AM

All OBD2 codes are the same on every make and model of car. Bad vacuum lines will not cause a CEL with the VICS or VTCS. Only a plug not connected will.

My little OBD2 pocket book states p0314 as random cylinder misfire which isn't really much to worry about. Just clear that one, these cars run rich and sometimes the air/fuels are so rich it will misfire. Pretty normal thing to happen in a stock ECU MSP.

StealthWyvern

01-13-2009, 07:11 AM

Eh i always get P0660 and P2006... They contradict each other to... one says its stuck open while the other says closed. I never get just one its always both or nothing. I haven't noticed anything different with the car on how it runs with those CELS either. It always apears to come on while in boost as well.

I haven't done anythign really to trouble shoot the issue either. Just reset and go about my day. Its a hit or miss thing for my car. I can't reproduce it on demand either.

StealthWyvern

01-13-2009, 07:20 AM

Look at this thread!

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4072996&postcount=15

DCmonkey

01-15-2009, 11:07 PM

its the same deal with me stealth.....any clue???

StealthWyvern

01-16-2009, 06:48 PM

its the same deal with me stealth.....any clue???

see my post above! I stole those out of the alldata database when I was at my friends shop. I just haven't had time to do any of those steps to test personally.

Edit: I think it might be the circut thats going out but then again I haven't done any testing yet. How can something be stuck open and closed at the same time.

DCmonkey

01-17-2009, 03:05 AM

agreed

808MP5

01-18-2009, 11:52 PM

lol i have the p2006 code too... and like stealth i just reset and go...
i don't know why i have it with a 626 mani

StealthWyvern

01-19-2009, 12:21 AM

lol i have the p2006 code too... and like stealth i just reset and go...
i don't know why i have it with a 626 mani

Then I'm guessing that the circut is just bad. Again I haven't tested anything but if your getting it with tyour VICs removed then I'm goign with tht its just bad.

808MP5

01-19-2009, 02:46 AM

it's very intermittent but doesn't erase itself. I just cleared mine

DCmonkey

01-19-2009, 03:34 AM

thats odd how you have it with a 626 mani,i just ordered a PG mani so lets see what my outcome turns out to be after this mod.

StealthWyvern

01-19-2009, 03:50 AM

thats odd how you have it with a 626 mani,i just ordered a PG mani so lets see what my outcome turns out to be after this mod.

With the 626 mani you still have that thing connected just not connected to the mani. its just off to the side so you don't throw a cel.

StealthWyvern

01-19-2009, 03:52 AM

it's very intermittent but doesn't erase itself. I just cleared mine

Yep thats how mine is. When i do get those two CELs its generally low or light boosting in 4th or 5th. Also when they do come on they tend to come on a few times taht month and then I won't see them again tell a few months later.