Whats going with the 09 mazda 6?

[100$ GUY]

Wanted to check out pics and know more data about the new 6 , just for fun and curiosity, so I come here......

And what is here? Pure silence, no movement, no action, this section is almost dead.

I thought I would have found lots of threads of new owners, lots of pics, threads of people reviews of their new cars, problems, dislikes, comparisons, questions which model to buy, etc etc etc,

Whats going here? Is people not buying that much new sixes?
For all new model, this is really dissapointing. I have never experienced such a lack of info and passion for a model in the forums I visit.

(weakest)

[nate0123]

hmm let's see...

why are enthusiasts not interested in this car?

1. they bloatified it... I seriously wish I'd never seen the euro version, maybe my head wouldn't hurt so bad when I look at what we got

2. the only MT offered is on the 4-cyl... and that gets a whole 170 hp to move a 3250+ lb car

3. and as further punishment to those silly enthusiasts who insist on driving MT, you're relegated to either either 16" steelies with wheel covers or 17" wheels that are the weird burst shapes

http://blog.niot.net/blog-images/19_jun/2009-mazda6-caught-in-the-wild-sort-of.jpg

sure, wheels can be changed, but that's hardly the point

I'm sure it's a fine car for the masses, but it has nothing to offer enthusiasts

I think we've pretty much all hit the "snooze" button until they offer a MT in the V6 model, or bring out a MS version

[DeanSweet]

and they are really expensive in the 6cyl version...

[Mazda3]

The new 6 is an unbelievable car for the money and the class benchmark by far IMO. However a small group of enthusiasts have taken it upon themselves to hound 09 owners with negative posts on any new thread they start on the most popular Mazda forums, so they just don't post about their cars anymore.

[xDJ DUBx]

no v6 mt (notcool)

[Mazda3]

no v6 mt (notcool)

Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a great car. The couple hundred people that would have bought it in a V6 manual wouldn't come close to justiying the cost of bringing the car to market.

[nate0123]

Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a great car.
Yes it does. IMO.


The couple hundred people that would have bought it in a V6 manual wouldn't come close to justiying the cost of bringing the car to market.Can we take a poll on that? :D

It's way more than 100 people.

[Mazda3]

Can we take a poll on that? :D

It's way more than 100 people.

I said 200. :p

[MSP2024]

imo, i think there ugly as shit, no offense to anyone that has one i just dont like the looks

[Mazda3]

imo, i think there ugly as shit, no offense to anyone that has one i just dont like the looks

I on the other hand think it's a great looking car. A nice mixture of sportiness and class. The car looks $20k more expensive than it is.

[nk2a]

http://www.damd.co.jp/products/mazda/atenza01_se.html

http://www.damd.co.jp/products/imagesCars/atenza01_se_photo.jpg

[xDJ DUBx]

Meh

[nate0123]

yea, the proportions are much nicer on that model, and I like the configuration of openings in the front bumper

[kyo7878]

the US 6 will probably be more popular when some custom mods are available.

[DeanSweet]

0% fiancing now?

[MazdaSpeeder]

It really makes me sad that there's no MT option for the V6. Not a huge fan of the looks either, but from some angles it's not bad. Mazda was one of the few car companies left that had the v6/mt option...it kills me that this is no longer the case. So much for zoom-zoom.

[initial_d2k]

im currently considering the new M6 as a new family car ...
im just wondering if anyone had encounter some serious problem with it?

i had a 02 MPV and the Tranmission was a piece of ____ .. so it gets me wonder how is the quality of the new M6

anyone?

[kyo7878]

just dont waste money on the stock nav then its all good~
i did find v6 runs smoother/quieter than 4 cylinder & braking on the v6 is stronger as well. maybe its just my imagination? lol

[initial_d2k]

i dont really *need* a nav ... so it wont be on the list
i basically think all OEM nav are overpriced =S

[speed1585]

well i think its obvious that the demographic mazda is shooting for does not give much a shit about having a MT. I too prefer MT, but also will most like stay in the compact segment my entire life which will almost surely continue to offer all models in stick. Its funny too me, I have heard ppl say they wish the offered the speed models in auto, hopefully the next speed6 doesnt and stays MT but who knows.

[initial_d2k]

maybe ppl meant "AT" as Dual Clutch Sequential (like the Evo MR and GTR)?
I remember reading it on a "rumor report" about the next MS6

[skylar2ups]

Well there are pictures out about the 2010 MazdaSPEED3 and well there isn't much about the new SPEED6 although I am still crossing my fingers about the euroSPEED6 being sent over unchanged... that way the 6 is still a family car to kill Camery and Accord and the SPEED will be awesome to us motorheads and the euro does look better then the 6 we get in the states.

[100$ GUY]

The new 6 is an unbelievable car for the money and the class benchmark by far IMO. However a small group of enthusiasts have taken it upon themselves to hound 09 owners with negative posts on any new thread they start on the most popular Mazda forums, so they just don't post about their cars anymore.

Interesting post, links ???? (band2)

[skylar2ups]

Interesting post, links ???? (band2)
I just did it... with out even knowing it... I said the euro looks better then the US 6...

Most of the 1st gen 6 owners think the 2nd gen 6 is just a mid size sedan and not the same car they love...

I like the new 6 but I like the euro just a little more!

But if you look at any thread you'll see what he's talking about.

[mldj77]

I have to agree. The new 09 6 is just another nice run of the mill borderline mid size Camry/Accord/Altima. What I loved about the 1st Gen, especially the Speed6 was the excitement level everytime I get in the car. I test drove several new 6s, 4cyl AT & MT, as well as the V6. It seems Mazda has lost its "Soul of a sports car" in this 2nd Gen. I'll wait for the next Speed6 before trading up. Hopefully we can get the Jap version which will further set the car apart from this new boring but nice 2nd Gen 6. Better yet, I miss my hatchback, but gave it up to get a Speed6. My figures are crossed.(drive2)

[Silver Amputee]

got my wife a 6 GT

[skylar2ups]

got my wife a 6 GT
Lucky her! What color?

[mx6guy22]

I just bought the Mazda 6 in the grand touring and I really like it. As with any cars there are things I would change especially the lag in this car from the 1st to 2nd shift while in manual sport shift and a little extra movement in the steering when you are in a turn and accelerating. Otherwise it is a great car and I got a great deal on a 32k car fully loaded for 27k. I'll post pics soon and hopefully we can get some more people to post here about their new 6.
Chris

[Silver Amputee]

Lucky her! What color?

The only blackcherry on the lot! They pulled it right of the showroom floor!

[100$ GUY]

Oh well, seems u guys are hard to please haha (cryhard)

So, lets go back to the basics, numbers, how many new 6´s are selling per month.....we need data, links. Otherwise...(burp)

[tiagotiago]

I also want to know a bit more info and impressions about this car, since I'd like to try and talk my mom into buying this one; though she's determined to buy a accord...

[skylar2ups]

The '09 Accord is an amazing car! I like it over the '09 Mazda6, but I would pick the CX-7 over the Accord.

[Mazda3]

The '09 Accord is an amazing car! I like it over the '09 Mazda6, but I would pick the CX-7 over the Accord.

Hmmmm......lets see. The Accord is slower, doesn't handle as good, doesn't look as good, interior is not even remotely comparable, has a smaller back seat, a waaay smaller trunk, less available features, got worse gas mileage in the Edmunds test even though its rated higher, did I mention its ugly?

Yeah, Accord defintely seems like the choice there.

[skylar2ups]

Hmmmm......lets see. The Accord is slower, doesn't handle as good, doesn't look as good, interior is not even remotely comparable, has a smaller back seat, a waaay smaller trunk, less available features, got worse gas mileage in the Edmunds test even though its rated higher, did I mention its ugly?

Yeah, Accord defintely seems like the choice there.
I test drove both and liked the Accord tons more. It was a Mazda6 S GT and the Accord EX-L V6 with Navi.
The front seat in the Mazda felt small and I drive a Mazda3 so thats really saying something. The seat didn't feel at all comfy like the CX-7 and I felt like everything was way to close to me. I thought it felt cheap but yes the trunk is HUGE and you can tell when you look at the car. The Euro 6 is very pretty the US spec... is okay. (And yes I moved the seat back)

The Accord felt big and nice, I love the way the Accord looks, the V6 had plenty of power for me, where when I drove the Mazda I felt like it was lacking something... many tranny maybe.
I thought the leather in the Honda was 100X better than the 6's the navi and bluetooth/hands free everything in the Accord was nice too. I like the fact that I can controll the radio, gps, ac, and bluetooth with just my voice it was pretty sweet.

Everything that the Mazda had the Accord had or it had something compairable to it. The Mazda out beats the Honda by 1HP... REALLY?

Oh and the best part? The Honda was less.
Accord $32,577
Mazda6 $33,320


But I like the CX-7 a lot and it's $31,855 fully loaded... (Not AWD.)

[Mazda3]

I test drove both and liked the Accord tons more. It was a Mazda6 S GT and the Accord EX-L V6 with Navi.
The front seat in the Mazda felt small and I drive a Mazda3 so thats really saying something. The seat didn't feel at all comfy like the CX-7 and I felt like everything was way to close to me. I thought it felt cheap but yes the trunk is HUGE and you can tell when you look at the car. The Euro 6 is very pretty the US spec... is okay. (And yes I moved the seat back)

The Accord felt big and nice, I love the way the Accord looks, the V6 had plenty of power for me, where when I drove the Mazda I felt like it was lacking something... many tranny maybe.
I thought the leather in the Honda was 100X better than the 6's the navi and bluetooth/hands free everything in the Accord was nice too. I like the fact that I can controll the radio, gps, ac, and bluetooth with just my voice it was pretty sweet.

Everything that the Mazda had the Accord had or it had something compairable to it. The Mazda out beats the Honda by 1HP... REALLY?

Oh and the best part? The Honda was less.
Accord $32,577
Mazda6 $33,320


But I like the CX-7 a lot and it's $31,855 fully loaded... (Not AWD.)

Myself and just about every journalist who has reviewed the Mazda 6 disagree with just about everything you posted. The leather is second to none in this price range. Mazda seats are the most comfortable seats in the under $40k price range by a country mile. I have 44k on my CX-7 and the new 6 seats are every bit as comfortable, maybe a step beyond. Honda does not make a "drivers" cockpit in any of their cars, so I don't know what you are talking about there. The controls in the new Accord are poorly layed out and not user friendly in the slightest. Speed isn't about HP ratings, the 6 beat the Accord in the 1/4 mile by a full second in Edmunds head to head test. I realise these cars aren't bought for drag racing, but that statistic is important to those who by the V6 model.

The Accord is a decent car, but the new 6 is better. And you can't expect to make a vague statement like you did on a Mazda forum and not have someone challenge it. :D

[sanblaster]

I am not a fan of the new mazda camry nor the new mazda smiley. Although their interiors are very sharp.

[Mazda3]

I am not a fan of the new mazda camry nor the new mazda smiley. Although their interiors are very sharp.

Its not about how much you like the new 6, its about comparing it directly to the Accord. Some of the enthusiasts are disappointed that the new 6 is not what they hoped for, but the bottom line is its better than the Accord/Camry.

[sanblaster]

I didn't know the thread was a comparison between the 2 vehicles.

[Mazda3]

I didn't know the thread was a comparison between the 2 vehicles.

The thread isn't, but it was hijacked by skylar.

[tiagotiago]

The thread isn't, but it was hijacked by skylar.

Now, I was the one who said that I wanted to know more about the car and said that my family's options are an Accord and a new 6, so I must say I appreciate all, especially first hand, impressions. Tough In all honesty I wasn't expecting an opinion favorable to an Accord in a Mazda forum too. In any case, this causes activity in this rather stale forum, that can't be bad can it?? :P

Styling-wise, I like the new 6, but don't I also don't like the smileyface(3), and feel fortunate I bought my car(08.5 MS3) in the design it came in and I can relate as to why old 6 users would feel the new one isn't in the same spirit as the old one; they did take it a bit more mainstream in regards to size, but also in fit and finish (not bad when you're comparing with Honda and Toyota IMO). In any case, it seems to be working since at least in my town, where there are a fair share of previous gen 6, there are a ton of new ones, so if they are selling them well, they must be doing someting right.

[MazMusic]

just the buggish headlight and the bulge around them make it look wierd, looks good from the back though......buttahead of sorts

[Mazda3]

Now, I was the one who said that I wanted to know more about the car and said that my family's options are an Accord and a new 6, so I must say I appreciate all, especially first hand, impressions. Tough In all honesty I wasn't expecting an opinion favorable to an Accord in a Mazda forum too. In any case, this causes activity in this rather stale forum, that can't be bad can it?? :P

Styling-wise, I like the new 6, but don't I also don't like the smileyface(3), and feel fortunate I bought my car(08.5 MS3) in the design it came in and I can relate as to why old 6 users would feel the new one isn't in the same spirit as the old one; they did take it a bit more mainstream in regards to size, but also in fit and finish (not bad when you're comparing with Honda and Toyota IMO). In any case, it seems to be working since at least in my town, where there are a fair share of previous gen 6, there are a ton of new ones, so if they are selling them well, they must be doing someting right.

My CX-7 lease is up in the fall. The new 6 is the front runner to replace it. I had a 2004 Mazda 6 GT-V6 before that, which I loved at the time, but the new 6 is an improvement in every area. Its' basically a Acura TL/Nissan Maxima at the Accord/Altima price.

[darkmanrob85]

I love my 09 M6 sTouring. I get alot of head turns. People always asking "What car is that" or "Who makes that car". One time, this dude almost ran into me bcuz he was staring so hard at my car. I put 20" rims on it(i think it handles better imo) and my girl got 35% tint put it over the weekend( on a black car the tint looks darker). I plan on getting it lowered next month and upgrading my stereo system( I already blew one of my speakers LMAO LOL)

[skylar2ups]

I love my 09 M6 sTouring. I get alot of head turns. People always asking "What car is that" or "Who makes that car". One time, this dude almost ran into me bcuz he was staring so hard at my car. I put 20" rims on it(i think it handles better imo) and my girl got 35% tint put it over the weekend( on a black car the tint looks darker). I plan on getting it lowered next month and upgrading my stereo system( I already blew one of my speakers LMAO LOL)
Glad you're enjoying your car. And welcome to the forums. I want to go on record saying that the Mazda6 isn't a bad car I like the car but I would get a Honda over the Mazda for my needs but I still like the car.

[Business]

I put 20" rims on it(i think it handles better imo)

(it doesn't)

[nolig2278]

I test drove both and liked the Accord tons more. It was a Mazda6 S GT and the Accord EX-L V6 with Navi.
The front seat in the Mazda felt small and I drive a Mazda3 so thats really saying something. The seat didn't feel at all comfy like the CX-7 and I felt like everything was way to close to me. I thought it felt cheap but yes the trunk is HUGE and you can tell when you look at the car. The Euro 6 is very pretty the US spec... is okay. (And yes I moved the seat back)

The Accord felt big and nice, I love the way the Accord looks, the V6 had plenty of power for me, where when I drove the Mazda I felt like it was lacking something... many tranny maybe.
I thought the leather in the Honda was 100X better than the 6's the navi and bluetooth/hands free everything in the Accord was nice too. I like the fact that I can controll the radio, gps, ac, and bluetooth with just my voice it was pretty sweet.

Everything that the Mazda had the Accord had or it had something compairable to it. The Mazda out beats the Honda by 1HP... REALLY?

Oh and the best part? The Honda was less.
Accord $32,577
Mazda6 $33,320


But I like the CX-7 a lot and it's $31,855 fully loaded... (Not AWD.)

I saw a fully loaded 6 for under $30,000
Did you adjust the seat as there is now way you can say a new 6 feels smaller than a 3? I have sat in both?

[darkmanrob85]

(it doesn't)

It does

[skylar2ups]

Felt like... everything was closer and the dealer we have down here often does custom leather so I think I might have seen some non-mazda leather... I'll have to go test drive another fully loaded one sometime.

[skylar2ups]

(it doesn't)
What does IMO mean to you?

[tiagotiago]

My CX-7 lease is up in the fall. The new 6 is the front runner to replace it. I had a 2004 Mazda 6 GT-V6 before that, which I loved at the time, but the new 6 is an improvement in every area. Its' basically a Acura TL/Nissan Maxima at the Accord/Altima price.

Thanks for the input. I appreciate all the comments here. When my folks try out both vehicles I'll try to tag along and give my impressions on both the cars.

[dc5rn]

bought my 09 v6 GT for 28k plus tax and plates... payment of 480


didnt have a chocie.... blew 4 motors in my msp6...and just wanted to stay away from the 2.3disi turbos

[P5w3kids]

The new 6 is an unbelievable car for the money and the class benchmark by far IMO. However a small group of enthusiasts have taken it upon themselves to hound 09 owners with negative posts on any new thread they start on the most popular Mazda forums, so they just don't post about their cars anymore.

Ouch, not good.

I'd like to see an active forum for the car.

[brampton2009GT]

The new 6 is an unbelievable car for the money and the class benchmark by far IMO. However a small group of enthusiasts have taken it upon themselves to hound 09 owners with negative posts on any new thread they start on the most popular Mazda forums, so they just don't post about their cars anymore.

This is so true.
I loved my 05 but the 09 is a differant car.It addresses what I'm sure was a LOT of market research by Mazda as to what the new 6 should be in N/A.
The enthusiasts can't accept that Mazda took a direction differant than the one they thought Mazda should take.Ilooked at every car in this segment and still bought a 6 because it is the best value for the money,hands down.
No it's not a Audi or BMW,it's not meant to be.It's a family car that is fun to push a little bit on the weekend (which I would never try in an Accord or Camry , unless I wanted to be pulled out tof the ditch).

So to the OP it's a great car if you are reallistic in your expectations.

Nuff Said.................(yes)

[tunersteve]

This car has great potential, but came out at the wrong time. The economy hit and really hurt sales out of the gate. Not many companies are making parts for the enthusiasts right now, and who knows if they will. If the aftermarket base picks up, then I would imagine a more active forum around here.

[soldmygoat]

I test drove both and liked the Accord tons more. It was a Mazda6 S GT and the Accord EX-L V6 with Navi.
The front seat in the Mazda felt small and I drive a Mazda3 so thats really saying something. The seat didn't feel at all comfy like the CX-7 and I felt like everything was way to close to me. I thought it felt cheap but yes the trunk is HUGE and you can tell when you look at the car. The Euro 6 is very pretty the US spec... is okay. (And yes I moved the seat back)

The Accord felt big and nice, I love the way the Accord looks, the V6 had plenty of power for me, where when I drove the Mazda I felt like it was lacking something... many tranny maybe.
I thought the leather in the Honda was 100X better than the 6's the navi and bluetooth/hands free everything in the Accord was nice too. I like the fact that I can controll the radio, gps, ac, and bluetooth with just my voice it was pretty sweet.

Everything that the Mazda had the Accord had or it had something compairable to it. The Mazda out beats the Honda by 1HP... REALLY?

Oh and the best part? The Honda was less.
Accord $32,577
Mazda6 $33,320


But I like the CX-7 a lot and it's $31,855 fully loaded... (Not AWD.)



Hi all! I've come to let myself introduce........ my self :cool:


You can get a Mazda 6 S Touring for $25k (or less).

I know. I bought one last Saturday night (nana)

(GT's go for 27k-28k)

[100$ GUY]

just dont waste money on the stock nav then its all good~
i did find v6 runs smoother/quieter than 4 cylinder & braking on the v6 is stronger as well. maybe its just my imagination? lol

U are on to something....:)

[100$ GUY]

well i think its obvious that the demographic mazda is shooting for does not give much a shit about having a MT. I too prefer MT, but also will most like stay in the compact segment my entire life which will almost surely continue to offer all models in stick. Its funny too me, I have heard ppl say they wish the offered the speed models in auto, hopefully the next speed6 doesnt and stays MT but who knows.

Well bro, give the people the power of choice! :)

[100$ GUY]

My CX-7 lease is up in the fall. The new 6 is the front runner to replace it. I had a 2004 Mazda 6 GT-V6 before that, which I loved at the time, but the new 6 is an improvement in every area. Its' basically a Acura TL/Nissan Maxima at the Accord/Altima price.

WHy not another crossover?

[100$ GUY]

This is so true.
I loved my 05 but the 09 is a differant car.It addresses what I'm sure was a LOT of market research by Mazda as to what the new 6 should be in N/A.
The enthusiasts can't accept that Mazda took a direction differant than the one they thought Mazda should take.Ilooked at every car in this segment and still bought a 6 because it is the best value for the money,hands down.
No it's not a Audi or BMW,it's not meant to be.It's a family car that is fun to push a little bit on the weekend (which I would never try in an Accord or Camry , unless I wanted to be pulled out tof the ditch).

So to the OP it's a great car if you are reallistic in your expectations.

Nuff Said.................(yes)

Im definitely not looking to buy one, but thanks for the input.
Yes, if I were in the market, this would be my first choice.

[Mazda3]

WHy not another crossover?

I get bored of vehicles no matter how nice they are. I'm ready for something different. They haven't changed the CX-7 enough for me to get another one at this point. The CX-9 is great, but I'm not sure I want to spend that much. I love the new 6. As far as I'm concerned they improved everything I wanted improved from my 2004 M6 GT-V6. Nothing is written in stone yet, but the 09-10 Mazda 6 is the front runner at this point. Although I will miss the AWD.