View Full Version : Coil overs for street only car
SwampAss
10-29-2008, 08:41 AM
Overkill? My car is 90% to and from work. I currently have the Mazdaspeed spring kit/camber plates.
Am I just looking to waste $1000 or up on something? I've read good reviews on the BC set up.
paylew
10-29-2008, 09:10 AM
I like adjustable coil overs, just because they are adjustable so you can get the exact height you want. If you already have springs then it's your decision if you want to spend more money, but you may have to place your shocks one day from the springs. It goes both ways I guess.
Circle9
10-29-2008, 09:52 AM
You car should maintain street drivability with Buddyclub as long as you're not slamming it. But like she said, I prefer to be able to adjust my ride heighth
I wouldn't, not for a DD. I've been down that road before and regretted it.
STRICK-
10-29-2008, 06:12 PM
Go for it. I have BCs on my daily driver and it rides great
xpnsvxj
10-29-2008, 06:27 PM
If you decide to get coilovers I will take your Mazdaspeed spring kit.(thumb)
essejkcamraw
10-29-2008, 08:15 PM
dont mean to thread jack....but, would coils void warranty?
SwampAss
10-29-2008, 08:28 PM
hahha. My car is one giant fucking voided warranty.
Wastegate13
10-29-2008, 08:29 PM
You car should maintain street drivability with Buddyclub as long as you're not slamming it. But like she said, I prefer to be able to adjust my ride heighth
Just FYI but the BC coils are not Buddy Club. My car is 99% a DD and I run BC coils. The ride is honestly not that different from stock except very large bumps.
strytnyne
10-29-2008, 08:29 PM
cant imagine it voiding powertrain
how many clicks for f/r waste
PCspeed3
10-30-2008, 12:42 AM
throw some D's on it. What wastegate said.
FrequentFlyer
10-30-2008, 01:24 AM
Tein should be coming out with their coils soon.
Snyeed
10-30-2008, 01:29 AM
+1 on the BC's
I went from Cobb springs to the BC's and couldn't be happier, You have the options to adjust them super firm or super soft. There great for Autocross and track days.
Yoo Shin
10-30-2008, 11:07 AM
I've been struggling with this for a while myself. The old "you get what you pay for" rule applies firmly with coilovers, though there are some "value" systems out that have positive reviews regarding daily ride compliance such as the BCs. KW (which also makes the MS COs) are known in the Audi and BMW communities as a coilover that provides a good balance of daily confort and improved handling. Teins (especially in the Subaru and Evo communities) are known for being a bit harsher and stiffer for daily use.
Keep in mind also, that once you go past a point of going low, the ride quality will deminish regardless of the coilover or suspension. You take the suspension out of it's optimal geometry and it will not perform or provide compliance and performance.
Conso
10-30-2008, 11:19 AM
just get some koni yellow adj struts like i did ull love em :)
Wastegate13
10-30-2008, 12:17 PM
cant imagine it voiding powertrain
how many clicks for f/r waste
I run the rear right in the middle and the fronts 5 clicks softer for daily use.
CnoTataymo
10-30-2008, 02:54 PM
I have BC coils. I got them for $250 used. I traded my stock MS3 struts/shocks/springs/top mounts and Cobb springs for them. What a steal! The BC's are nice for DD. I run them at 13fr/16r. I ran them from what people recommended 12fr/15r and got so used to it it felt it needed a little more stiffness. But I'm young and I've ridden in stiffer suspension cars so yeah.
AutoEuphoria
10-30-2008, 03:13 PM
I'd say overkill if you're just driving it on the road. Not only do they cost more, but you're usually going to sacrefice a good amount of ride comfort.
Frisco speed3
10-30-2008, 06:20 PM
Haven't rode in a ms3 with coil over susp. but I find its overkill in most situations. I used to be a porsche mechanic and I always try to steer people away from coil overs for their street rides. The ride is usually to rough and if your going out on winding roads to have fun you will lose alot of confidence(which will slow you down) going into the turns if the roads are not perfect. Also you have to tune a suspension if you go with coilovers, most people dont do this. If you get them, before alignment the car should be corner balanced and you will need a bump steer kit which I dont think exists for this car. In short coilovers dont always make your car perform better, usually tightening the chasis and up grading the springs and struts makes a much faster street driver(sometimes track too) because you are not altering the steering geometry to much but you are stiffening the car itself. Balance is the key.
madvillian
10-30-2008, 10:45 PM
do it swamp! you can get the BC's for 800, you can have them as soft as you want, as high as you want, as low as you want, and theyre easy as shit to adjust. i personally have mine low as hell, and stiff as hell and i daily drive it, the ride is rough but i really like it. you need to compliment those BBS's with a nice drop!
Renzokuken
10-30-2008, 11:37 PM
The H&R coilovers are GREAT for daily driving. They ride very well. I prefer a full setup if any lowering of the car is involved. I dont like running JUST springs, so as soon as I could afford it, I got coilovers. If you plan on keeping it stock height, then just stay stock with the suspension, thats always the best for a DD
Yoo Shin
10-31-2008, 11:50 AM
The H&R coilovers are GREAT for daily driving. They ride very well. I prefer a full setup if any lowering of the car is involved. I dont like running JUST springs, so as soon as I could afford it, I got coilovers. If you plan on keeping it stock height, then just stay stock with the suspension, thats always the best for a DD
+1 My experience from my Subarus and Hondas with springs is that eventually (and always sooner then later) the dampeners will degrade and ride quality will go down. I've always had to eventually move up to coilovers or shop struts which are not exactly easy to match to springs.
At least with (most) coilovers, dampers are built with adjustability in mind, and the dampening is rebuildable.
SwampAss
11-02-2008, 09:14 PM
what did you pay for your coil over set up? i see the advertised prices but what did you actually pay?
Wastegate13
11-03-2008, 12:57 AM
what did you pay for your coil over set up? i see the advertised prices but what did you actually pay?
If you are asking me then I bought mine from Street Unit a long time ago when they still came with the camber plates standard. I paid a little under 1k, I received a slight discount for making a large order. I wish I would have known Import Image sold them, I know Josh personally and he can cut you guys a great deal on the BC's if you wish to go with them.
IKE=MS3 08.5
11-09-2008, 11:17 AM
If you are asking me then I bought mine from Street Unit a long time ago when they still came with the camber plates standard. I paid a little under 1k, I received a slight discount for making a large order. I wish I would have known Import Image sold them, I know Josh personally and he can cut you guys a great deal on the BC's if you wish to go with them.
How much is a great deal?
Wastegate13
11-09-2008, 01:58 PM
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How much is a great deal?
Why don't you contact him and find out?
www.importimageonline.com
paylew
11-09-2008, 01:58 PM
I'm about to just fold and put them on the card, I can't stand wheel gap..
Wastegate13
11-09-2008, 02:02 PM
I'm about to just fold and put them on the card, I can't stand wheel gap..
You won't.
Now you pretty much have to.
RichB
11-10-2008, 10:54 AM
With the BC's I know adjusting the front dampers are pretty easy to adjust but what about the back ones? I have seen that it is hell to adjust the MS Coilovers in the back.
SuperStretch18
11-10-2008, 10:58 AM
With the BC's I know adjusting the front dampers are pretty easy to adjust but what about the back ones? I have seen that it is hell to adjust the MS Coilovers in the back.
http://importimageonline.com/imageprint/bc-racing-coilovers/bc-racing-coilovers/bc-racing-br-series-coilover-rear-extenders-only/product_info.php/cPath/872_873/products_id/1985
Wastegate13
11-10-2008, 12:24 PM
http://importimageonline.com/imageprint/bc-racing-coilovers/bc-racing-coilovers/bc-racing-br-series-coilover-rear-extenders-only/product_info.php/cPath/872_873/products_id/1985
Those aren't even needed really. You can reach the rear adjustment knobs through the taillight access panels.
RichB
11-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Those aren't even needed really. You can reach the rear adjustment knobs through the taillight access panels.
I can see that working with the drivers side tailight, but the passenger side also? That's a tiny little hatch.
Wastegate13
11-10-2008, 01:07 PM
I can see that working with the drivers side tailight, but the passenger side also? That's a tiny little hatch.
You just need to be flexible.
tigermack
11-13-2008, 04:39 PM
You guys put them stiff for street? I put them at 1 all around on street with my Tein SS.
Wastegate13
11-13-2008, 08:00 PM
You guys put them stiff for street? I put them at 1 all around on street with my Tein SS.
How many adjustment levels to the Tein's have?
CnoTataymo
11-13-2008, 08:07 PM
I believe the Tein SS's have 12 way adjustable dampening. I've got BC coilovers and I think 30 way is way too much. Shoot, I wouldn't mind going like 5 way adjustable dampening, it's a lot easier and either way, you got full coilovers for a reason....
tigermack
11-13-2008, 10:12 PM
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