2009 Mazda6 reliability - let's get better info ASAP

[P5w3kids]

Because I wanted more up-to-date auto reliability information that included actual repair rates, in late 2005 I started conducting reliability research at TrueDelta.com (http://www.truedelta.com). TrueDelta reports absolute stats like "trips to the shop" that make the differences between cars much clearer. Results are updated four times a year, so it's possible to provide reliability information on the new Mazda6 quickly--if enough owners sign up.

Thanks to the help of this forum and its owner, for which I am very grateful, we've been able to provide information on nearly the entire Mazda line. Let's do the same with the new Mazda6.

Participants simply report repairs the month after they occur on a one-page survey. When there are no repairs, they simply report an approximate odometer reading four times a year, at the end of each quarter.

To encourage participation, panel members receive full access to the results for free.

For the details, and to sign up to help out:

Vehicle reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

[P5w3kids]

Six signed up so far. A start, but this is such a beautiful car...why aren't more people here to talk about how much they love it?

[Mazda3]

Six signed up so far. A start, but this is such a beautiful car...why aren't more people here to talk about how much they love it?

Because they get attacked by the haters everytime a thread is started.

[wannabe]

Because they get attacked by the haters everytime a thread is started.


yeah.

the bigger issue is that this community really doesn't mesh with that car. that car is not designed to be moddable, and this is a modding community.

[P5w3kids]

How was the old one designed to be moddable in ways the new one is not?

I have no idea what makes one car more moddable than another (aside from a turbo), and am curious.

[nolig2278]

I think the issue is that the average buyer of the new 6 will not be the type of person who even realizes what a website/forum is.

I think it is great to compare repairs with others. Easy way to spot a specific potential failure, recall or other issues.

[wannabe]

How was the old one designed to be moddable in ways the new one is not?

I have no idea what makes one car more moddable than another (aside from a turbo), and am curious.


I think the issue is that the average buyer of the new 6 will not be the type of person who even realizes what a website/forum is.

I think it is great to compare repairs with others. Easy way to spot a specific potential failure, recall or other issues.


exactly. the type of buyer for this car is more along the same lines as the buyer for a lexus or acura. the old car was more along the accord/camry lines. the aftermarket doesnt seem to exist because there is no demand for it. the owners aren't asking for more performance because the car is more set to be luxury than performance.

[P5w3kids]

Well, 18 now signed up. Might be enough for an initial, qualified result in May. But more likely we'll have an initial result in August.

If you have a 2009, please help us make this result happen sooner rather than later:

Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

[soldmygoat]

Well, 18 now signed up. Might be enough for an initial, qualified result in May. But more likely we'll have an initial result in August.

If you have a 2009, please help us make this result happen sooner rather than later:

Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

I just signed up (hi)

[P5w3kids]

We had barely enough responses for a partial result for the 2009. That said, the score of 26 repair trips per 100 vehicles per year provides a rough indicator that, so far, these cars have been having few problems.

More participants needed so we can provide a full result in future updates.

Mazda Mazda6 reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171&email=Guest)

[P5w3kids]

We'll have an updated result next month. We might have a full result this time, but it's going to be tight. Additional participants would be very helpful.

Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

[rwong410]

I've signed up as well.

[P5w3kids]

We have that full result--thanks, guys. With a reported repair rate of 48 successful repair trips per 100 cars per year, the 2009 Mazda6 is about average, and not far from "better than average." Pretty good for an all new car in its first model year.

We'll have another update in November. The more owners participate, the better the information we can provide.

Mazda6 reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171&email=Guest)

[Ernie]

Unfortunately, dealer hours really play a role (no joke).

If it were a 6am-7pm repair shop, I'd probably have brought it in more . . . probably why my Saturn had "poor reliability" . . . still my passenger occupancy sensor sucks; bad.

I'll be rid of the car before the details are complete; 16,000 miles today, bought it in March.

Oh well :/

-Ernie

[P5w3kids]

By the same logic, my tires get rotated far less often than they ought to, and I end up buying them in pairs...

Updated results again later this month.

We're going to start providing new stats for the odds of requiring no repairs and the odds of getting a lemon. These require larger sample sizes, so additional participants would be helpful.

For the details, and to sign up:

Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

[P5w3kids]

We have that updated result--thanks, guys. With a reported repair rate of 68 successful repair trips per 100 cars per year, the 2009 Mazda6 is again about average, but trending in the wrong direction.

We'll have another update in February. The more owners participate, the better the information we can provide.

Mazda6 reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171&email=Guest)

[maple_leaf]

Yeah....saw that.

[P5w3kids]

62 2009s now signed up, an excellent start. Just one 2010 so far, though. Many 2010 owners here? To find out how much reliability improves with the second model year we need your help.

Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

[P5w3kids]

A few more now for both years. Continue to especially need more 2010s.

Not yet signed up? Details here:

Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

[P5w3kids]

We have updated results for the Mazda6 to include owner experiences through December 31, 2009. With 73 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the 2009 is about average.

A big thank you, once again, to Antoine, this forum, and everyone who has been helping. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. Especially need more 2010s.

Mazda Mazda6 reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171&email=Guest)

[P5w3kids]

Just enhanced the related repair history survey so that it can (optionally) be used as a personal car maintenance record.

As always, more participants would be helpful. Especially need more 2010s.

Updated Car Reliability Survey results in May, with a preview for participants in mid-April.

Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

[P5w3kids]

We have updated results for the Mazda6 to include owner experiences through March 31, 2010. With 62 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the 2009 is about average.

A big thank you, once again, to Antoine, this forum, and everyone who has been helping. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. Especially need more 2010s and (once they arrive) 2011s.

Mazda Mazda6 reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171&email=Guest)

[P5w3kids]

We have updated results for the Mazda6 to include owner experiences through June 30, 2010.

Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the more recent months until the summer or even fall of next year.

With 57 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the 2009 remains about average.

A big thank you, once again, to Antoine, this forum, and everyone who has been helping. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. Especially need more participants for the 2010 and up.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

Mazda Mazda6 reliability comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)

[P5w3kids]

Starting this month we have a new question to measure, as objectively as possible, the severity of a problem. Many people have been asking for reliability stats that weight problems by how severe they are, and once we have enough responses with the revised survey we'll start providing this.

Also this month: updated reliability stats.

As always, the more owners participate, the better the information we can provide to everyone.

Car reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

[P5w3kids]

We have updated results for the Mazda6 to include owner experiences through September 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of next year.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010: 56, about average, small sample size

2009: 47, about average

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

For the 2009, the percentage with no repairs is about 70, and the percentage of lemons is about 3. These stats require more data, so we don't yet have them for other model years.

Mazda6 Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/lemon-odds.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)

Thank you, once again, to Antoine, this forum, and everyone who has been helping. That said, this is again among our least consistent sets of results, probably due to the sample sizes. If more owners could participate, we could provide more precise results and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Mazda6 reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)

[P5w3kids]

We have updated results for the Mazda6 to include owner experiences through December 31, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of this year.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010: 47, about average, small sample size

2009: 42, about average

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

For the 2009, the percentage with no repairs is about 67, and the percentage of lemons is less than one. These stats require more data, so we don't yet have them for other model years.

Mazda6 Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/lemon-odds.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)

Thank you, once again, to Antoine, this forum, and everyone who has been helping. That said, this is again among our least consistent sets of results, probably due to the sample sizes. If more owners could participate, we could provide more precise results and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Mazda6 reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)

[P5w3kids]

We have updated our car reliability stats for the Mazda6 to include owner experiences through March 31, 2011.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010: 23, better than average, small sample size

2009: 42, about average

2007: 27, better than average, small sample size

2007 MS6: 41, better than average, small sample size

2006: 46, better than average

2006 MS6: 57, about average, small sample size

2005: 39, better than average

2004: 91, about average

2003: 121, about average, but small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

For the 2009, the percentage with no repairs is about 65, and the percentage of lemons is less than one.

Mazda6 Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/lemon-odds.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)

We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants we could provide more precise results and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Mazda6 reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)

[P5w3kids]

We have updated our car reliability stats for the Mazda6 to include owner experiences through June 30, 2011.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010: 24, better than average, small sample size

2009: 49, about average

2007: 20, better than average, small sample size

2007 MS6: 48, better than average, small sample size

2006: 50, better than average

2006 MS6: 72, about average, small sample size

2005: 38, better than average

2004: 92, about average

2003: 118, about average, but small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.

For the 2009, the percentage with no repairs is about 65, and the percentage of lemons is about 6. These stats require more data, so we don't yet have them for other model years.

Mazda6 Lemon-odds and Nada-odds (http://www.truedelta.com/lemon-odds.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)

We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants we could provide more precise results and fully cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Mazda6 reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Mazda&mc=171)