R.I.P. SA.MSP's MSP

[S.A.MSP]

Hey everyone,

Don't know if any of you heard but....


My beloved MSP burned down in a shop fire with a few other cars

Before:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/hot_stufdude56/Exterior-1.jpg

After:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/hot_stufdude56/MSP.jpg


One of the owners of the shop was messing with the fuel pump of his race car when it sparked and ignited him and the shop, he survived with 2nd degree burns all over, there was only one casualty, a Tea Cup Chihuahua named 'Toby'.

A few other cars burned down too, 2xS2000, 700hp Race Civic Hatch, 400hp Race Civic Coupe, Eclipse, 240sx, Civic Hatch, Civic Coupe, Integra, Del Sol.

From fire start to everything burned to a crisp was est. 3 min.

Sad times.

[Olestra]

Ohh my god, sorry to hear that dude! I feel really bad for the shop owner and the dog. Poor guy. And poor MSP. =(

Those pics just drop my jaw.
So what's going to happen for you now?

[XoX1de]

Jesus FUKING CHRIST, thats a sad ending...

[MSP2024]

damn are you serious, im sorry to hear that bro,,you were from utah right?

[joeleo1]

That is horrible, well at least your turbo manifold you sold me has a good home.

[NCZ13]

RIP the dog and the cars, but for the most part at least people got out safe.

I had a garage fire last year, and pretty much destroyed the entire front end of my house in about 10 minutes. Lost everything in the garage, and my moms van that was parked out front.

well... uh at least you got your refund from medieval?
=)

[S.A.MSP]

Ohh my god, sorry to hear that dude! I feel really bad for the shop owner and the dog. Poor guy. And poor MSP. =(

Those pics just drop my jaw.
So what's going to happen for you now?
I owe 10g's on it, gotta pay up, but i can't afford it with having the benz too

damn are you serious, im sorry to hear that bro,,you were from utah right?
Yeah, lived in UT for i bit, graduated from Brighton HS

That is horrible, well at least your turbo manifold you sold me has a good home.
Very glad to hear, hope it's treating you well!

RIP the dog and the cars, but for the most part at least people got out safe.

I had a garage fire last year, and pretty much destroyed the entire front end of my house in about 10 minutes. Lost everything in the garage, and my moms van that was parked out front.

well... uh at least you got your refund from medieval?
=)
lol, yeah i finally got my refund, took forever!

[MSP2024]

i thought i remembered you posting about living up this way for a lil bit, sorry to hear about the car though, insurance wont cover it?

[StealthWyvern]

I wounder whos insurance that would fall under the shop(more then likely) or your own car insurance?

[MSP2024]

i would assume that it would be the shops insurance that should pay for it, i think it would be bullshit if you have to pay cuz someones elses dumbass burned it down

[S.A.MSP]

Yeah, it's a tricky situation, shop didn't have insurance but in NC it is the law to rent out a building with reters incurance and the landlord didn't have insurance either so the shop owner is taking the landlord to court, it was my buddy's shop, he is gonna pay me out when he gets some cash, he lost about 105k through all of this

[paylew]

i would assume that it would be the shops insurance that should pay for it, i think it would be bullshit if you have to pay cuz someones elses dumbass burned it down

I would assume that also, if the shop didn't cover it I would throw a fit.

&that really sucks, the car looked amazing... :( RIP

[MSP2024]

oh damn that sounds like its going to take awhile to get it figured out, i hope all ends well

[Rush]

Hoooooly shit.

I kinda don't even know what to say past that. :(

[S.A.MSP]

Atleast it won MOM before it died :(

My most favorite car of all time.

[mazdaspeed777]

Dang dude! Thats quite sad knowing something you put that much time, money, and efforts into is now just destroyed. I know how you feal. I was helping my brother rebuild his engine in his 01' Subaru 2.5 RS and a spark ignited some fuel in the engine bay. Fortunately it didn't cause much damage cause we had a fire extinguisher in the house. That is why it is so important to have one around a shop aspecially when its used for automotive purposes. You never know how or when something could go up in flames. Sorry for you loss. Hope everything works out for you. Have you talked to your insurance company to see if they will cover it?

[S.A.MSP]

Sadly and regretably i did not have insurance due to the fact that it was in the shop to get fixed and sold, i am probably the biggest idiot alive!!

[ProtoType5]

Ouch......here's one for you (cheers)

I would assume the liability would rest on the property owner...regardless of the business owners own fault in the matter...Somewhere down the line someone really F'd up and didn't pay for insurance...and this is what happens...


Really it isn't your fault, even if you had insurance, your personal insurance would not pay for this, this is the business owners fault..and should be taken care of...suckage.!!!!!

EDIT***Sorry but that picture is pretty awesome....burned that shit right up...

[StealthWyvern]

Yeah, it's a tricky situation, shop didn't have insurance but in NC it is the law to rent out a building with reters incurance and the landlord didn't have insurance either so the shop owner is taking the landlord to court, it was my buddy's shop, he is gonna pay me out when he gets some cash, he lost about 105k through all of this

damn thats it....


Sadly and regretably i did not have insurance due to the fact that it was in the shop to get fixed and sold, i am probably the biggest idiot alive!!

Are you not required to have insurence if you still have a lean against it?

[stdntDrvr]

damn.

[S.A.MSP]

Are you not required to have insurence if you still have a lean against it?

yes, you are absolutely right, like i said, i'm an idiot for damn sure!

[S.A.MSP]

Ouch......here's one for you (cheers)

EDIT***Sorry but that picture is pretty awesome....burned that shit right up...

would have been bad ass if it ran like a champ looking like that, sleeper!!!

[StealthWyvern]

yes, you are absolutely right, like i said, i'm an idiot for damn sure!

Oh im not calling you a idiot. The way I figure it is you were not driving it so shit happens. At leat your buddy didnt die!!!!


Just curious where is the engine?

[S.A.MSP]

also burned to a crisp, there was an S2K motor on the floor too and the aluminum casting melted away and all that was left were the sleeves!
some of the wheeles on the cars look like pan cakes

[mazdaspeed777]

also burned to a crisp, there was an S2K motor on the floor too and the aluminum casting melted away and all that was left were the sleeves!
some of the wheeles on the cars look like pan cakes

Man that must have been a hot fire. I am sure it was with all those cars in there filled with flammables

[zuku26]

Atleast it won MOM before it died :(

My most favorite car of all time.

Mine too!! Your's is what got thinking about picking up a Black one too!

[2.0t03speed]

damn man that sucks sorry to hear it

[Spooler]

Man, that seriously sucks. Hope you get your money back somehow

[RacerXGirl]

wow...poor pup. :( hopefully your friend recovers swiftly from his burns...

and the MSP, that's just sad...

oof, and no insurance Jacques? oy...hopefully you'll get some funds from the owner of the shop to pay off the car...

[CrazyCaker]

wow.... sorry to hear.

[KronixKid22]

Damn, sorry to hear this. Loved the clean look of your car. :(

[aMaff]

Here's the fun part: If Jacques had insurance, he'd be able to a) get the car written off as a total and probably paid off by gap insurance (if he had it), and the insurance company would go after the shop / land lord to get their insurance to pay for it. As it stands, you have to fight this one on your own (with a lawyer preferably... that you have to pay for), and you're stuck in a pretty pickle.

[S.A.MSP]

i sure am in a bit of a pickle, i always seem to make these really stupid mistakes before i learn anything, really stupid of me!

[SeR_Cyclops]

man that really sucks now you owe 10k on a pile of steel..... :(

[S.A.MSP]

:( i'm def not happy about it guys

[S.A.MSP]

Know anyone interested in a Benz? need to get rid of it and get a beater, it's the only way i'll make it out alive, please spread the word!

[SeR_Cyclops]

man that sucks bad i feel sorry for ya man.

[KZL_99ES]

damn, sorry hear man... glad to hear you and him are ok, i hope everything with work out for you.

best wishes!

[neox.286]

poor guy, just can't catch a break with that car =(

best of luck to you man, I'm sure you will pull through this just fine!
the landlord is definitely at fault here, you have a very strong argument if you go to court

[S.A.MSP]

oh, i forgot, the landlord also paid off the fire marshall to write a false report to say that my friends burned down the shop to claim insurance!!! Bunch of BS!!

[MSP2024]

damn it just fuckin gets worse

[aMaff]

but he doesn't have inusrance... how does that fly?

[neox.286]

oh, i forgot, the landlord also paid off the fire marshall to write a false report to say that my friends burned down the shop to claim insurance!!! Bunch of BS!!

WTF?

god damn that landlord sounds like a complete ASS

[S.A.MSP]

but he doesn't have inusrance... how does that fly?

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

WTF?

god damn that landlord sounds like a complete ASS

Someone stole the Dyno right out the ground and we suspect it was him!

[mazdaspeed777]

Know anyone interested in a Benz? need to get rid of it and get a beater, it's the only way i'll make it out alive, please spread the word!

Make a for sale thread for it in the Vehicles for sale section of the forum and explain your situation. My might get some luck that way.

Also you might want to talk to a few dealerships to see if they would trade you straight across for a beater car and have them pay the remaining on the car.

[mazdaspeed777]

oh, i forgot, the landlord also paid off the fire marshall to write a false report to say that my friends burned down the shop to claim insurance!!! Bunch of BS!!

Wow! I would report that info to the police if I were you. That might help you out in your court case.

[SeR_Cyclops]

... wow this just keeps getting worse...

[Olestra]

WTF, how did he pay off the fire marshal? Also, how do you know about it? You can probably get that investigated. If the guy was trying to claim fraudulent insurance, why would he burn himself and get 2nd degree burns on his whole body. That makes no sense.

Also why do you keep saying you feel stupid, none of this is your fault. You put your car in a shop you trusted and it burned down by accident...

[aMaff]

Also why do you keep saying you feel stupid, none of this is your fault.

The car wasn't insured.

[S.A.MSP]

i just feel really stupid for cancelling the insurance that's all, the landlord is one of the richest guys in the county that the shop was so he is in good with some people, including the fire marshall, so he paid him, my friend has a lawyer to take care of all this but he has no money to pay him right now so he has to wait to get money before any of this moves forward

[brealmp3]

what county in nc are you in? and where was the shop?

[S.A.MSP]

It happened in Union County, shop was in Indian Trail, right by Dale Jarred (sp?) Ford, on HWY74 (Indipendence)

[Olestra]

The car wasn't insured.

Oh I see. I didn't catch that sorry. I only read in the first page of the thread that the shop didn't have insurance but the landlord should by law have some sort of renters insurance and didn't have it.

I guess fire and theft insurance should have been on the car at the very least. I think that type of insurance contract is really cheap, here in Can at least.

[S.A.MSP]

it is cheap, that's why i'm the idiot lol

[Olestra]

Doh... =)

Lots of good luck to you!
I have my fingers, toes, hairs, eyes, arms, legs crossed for you.

[S.A.MSP]

Thank you kind sir!!

[mazdaspeed777]

About your Benz:

Make a for sale thread for it in the Vehicles for sale section of the forum and explain your situation. My might get some luck that way.

Also you might want to talk to a few dealerships to see if they would trade you straight across for a beater car and have them pay the remaining on the car.

[S.A.MSP]

About your Benz:

yeah i saw that man, gotta give it a wash then take some pics this weekend then i'll put it up there, already put it up in the Benz forums too.

[neox.286]

why would he burn himself and get 2nd degree burns on his whole body. That makes no sense.

this is why you have an amazing chance of winning in court even if you defend yourself bro

don't let this asshat get away with this, there is no reason for you to need to sell the benz because he already fucked up when he bribed the fire marshal to print up the fraudulent report...you can take this guy for everything hes got right now if you wanted

[SeR_Cyclops]

yeah lieing and bribery not a good thing.

[Captain KRM P5]

horrible horrible horrible, sorry to see such a sad fate

[brealmp3]

damn dude that sucks, i'm right up the road from you in stanly county. don't give up, keep fighting this.

[zuku26]

Go to your local Law school and talk with someone, They actually have people sometimes graduating seniors sometimes actual faculty that are willing to take cases for free, either to build up experience, or to use the case as a teaching tool. Either way someone will take the case, or atleast give you some counsel.

[BOOSTR]

Sorry about your car. This is a mess as the shop owner should of had Garagekeepers insurance with a limit high enough to protect the owners of all cars that are now totaled. Even if you had comprehensive coverage you would have a fight on your hands as the car was in the care, custody and control of the shop and not you. The building owner was not responsible for the fire or the tenants property, no liability there. Your legal issue is with the shop. Good luck.

[S.A.MSP]

Thanks for all the kind words and help everyone, i'll definately try out the law school idea, should work!

[FunkyCold5]

WHOA! Sorry for what happened. It pains me to see a nice MSP go the way yours went. Good luck with all that other cr*p you have to go through. Hope everything turns out good for you.

[i12drivemyMP5]

This is exactly the type of happenstance ass fuckery that leaving my car anywhere to have anyone else do anything to just scares the bejeezus outta me...even with proper insurance. Horrible horrible bullshit! Very unfitting demise to such a nice car. Hopefully this door slammin the fuck shut like it did opens up another that makes up for it. Good luck with all the swirling mess surrounding the shop's lack of insurance. Sounds like the landlord paid off the fire marshall to divert attention away from him not being properly covered like he should have been. Slander law suit for your buddy FTW!

[neox.286]

Hopefully this door slammin the fuck shut like it did opens up another that makes up for it.

lol wut?

[S.A.MSP]

"Hopefully some good luck comes from this bad luck" i think lol

[neox.286]

hahaha, thats what I thought but I found it funny =P

[S.A.MSP]

lol, yeah, good way of putting it!

[lowpro35]

damn man just read the whole thread, that's a pretty bad situation. but hey from past experiences lawyers when taking on cases similar to this will, at times, operate on a "contingency fee contract" meaning they get X% of what you get. i'm sure your buddy is looking into it but if not you should mention it. Sounds like that case could go pretty high. Maybe you should get a little extra for the hastle......you know it's the american way. Good luck.

[OneQuikMSP]

Wow! I'm sorry! Thats gotta feel worse than a kick to the groin!

[S.A.MSP]

Feels alot worse:(

[neox.286]

yea +1 to lowpro35

in california there was a small town that went without power for a month a few years back because some tourist sued it after tripping over a piece of sidewalk that was slightly higher than the rest and broke their ankle...

you can get away with anything, just gotta actually take it to court lol

[lowpro35]

This is what i got the lucky time i went to court
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/2667928879_176efe16a1.jpg

[lowpro35]

court and misfortune can be a lot of fun in the end

[S.A.MSP]

I just wanna pay off my F'n debt!! lol

[lowpro35]

lol, well that too.

[neox.286]

should be able to do that easily bro

just can't be afraid to stand up and fight this

[mazdaspeed777]

I just wanna pay off my F'n debt!! lol

+1 I hear ya there. My wife and I are trying to do the same thing. In fact I would like to recommend something to you. My wife and I are taking this guys class and I highly recommend you do the same. It is amazing and it puts you on a great program to get out of debt. Check it out:

http://www.daveramsey.com/

[MSP2k3]

dave ramsey is awesome! Can listen to his podcast for free on iTunes or I recommend his book The Total Money Makeover. I have been on his plan for awhile now. Will change your life

[neox.286]

................wha?

[i12drivemyMP5]

lol wut?One door closes, another opens analogy.

[mazdaspeed777]

dave ramsey is awesome! Can listen to his podcast for free on iTunes or I recommend his book The Total Money Makeover. I have been on his plan for awhile now. Will change your life

Sweet! Im not the only one. (2thumbs) Yah I recommend this to you all. Being debt free is the only way to be

[neox.286]

One door closes, another opens analogy.

lol, I was making a joke =P

[mgerst1]

wish i was in law school already, id help you out man, I will look into it but I do know the contingency fee can only be used in certain types of cases.

[S.A.MSP]

wish i was in law school already, id help you out man, I will look into it but I do know the contingency fee can only be used in certain types of cases.

Any help at all would be highly appreciated, the lawyer my friend is using needs $4k to start the case, neither him nor I have the money for it and time is running out

[RacerXGirl]

he won't take the case on contingency?

[S.A.MSP]

Nope, he's not being very helpfull

[mazdaspeed777]

Nope, he's not being very helpfull

Aren't there lawers that only get payed if they win the case? And even then only a percentage is takin from the settlement for lawer fees. Don't have a whole lot of knowledge about law but I thought this was true.

[RacerXGirl]

Then maybe it's time to find a different lawyer.

[mgerst1]

^It is but like i said, the common misconception is that everything can be done on contingency fee basis. I know for a fact criminal charges can never be done as contingency fee, and some civil matters cannot be charged as contingency fee either. My suggestion would be to shop around for a lawyer who might take it , a majority will give you a free consult to see if they want the case. That is the best way, also call your local bar association and ask who they would reccomend for this case and they will give you a list of names and numbers (at least they should) , just because they have an ad in the phone book does not make them a good attorney. i will see if i can find out if this does qualify for the contingency fee basis.

[Motardazour]

I loved that car too, good luck to you!

[CantCMe]

Geez, I'm just seeing this thread. Sorry to hear man.

[S.A.MSP]

Thank you sir, it will be ok, nothing i can do. also, i'm taking the benz to the dealer and giving it back to them, i can't afford it anymore, the loss of my license caused me to get a pay cut, things are just not getting better, once again, I don't blame anyone but myself, my own stupidity got me here *sigh*

[MSP2024]

Thank you sir, it will be ok, nothing i can do. also, i'm taking the benz to the dealer and giving it back to them, i can't afford it anymore, the loss of my license caused me to get a pay cut, things are just not getting better, once again, I don't blame anyone but myself, my own stupidity got me here *sigh*

sorry to hear that bro

[RacerXGirl]

Thank you sir, it will be ok, nothing i can do. also, i'm taking the benz to the dealer and giving it back to them, i can't afford it anymore, the loss of my license caused me to get a pay cut, things are just not getting better, once again, I don't blame anyone but myself, my own stupidity got me here *sigh*

when did you lose your license?

[S.A.MSP]

Oct. 20th, for speeding, 96 in a 65 in a rental Explorer on my way back to Charlotte from Atlanta, all my fault, no one elses, lessons learned and noted in sharpie

(in NC, if you get stopped for doing 25mph or more over the speed limit it is an automatic 1yr suspension)

[mazdaspeed777]

Oct. 20th, for speeding, 96 in a 65 in a rental Explorer on my way back to Charlotte from Atlanta, all my fault, no one elses, lessons learned and noted in sharpie

(in NC, if you get stopped for doing 25mph or more over the speed limit it is an automatic 1yr suspension)

So is your liscense being suspended for a whole year then? I got mine suspended for a month once because I payed a ticket late. I see you got rid of your benz though! Thats good news. I am considering just giving my car back to the bank as well so I don't have to worry about getting a few things fixed on it. Bin out of work for a month or so and can't afford the car payments anyways.

[S.A.MSP]

Yep, gon for a year but I am eligible for a hearing which i'm still awaiting the papers for since I can do it through the mail, i'm certain I'll get it back though, I got a letter from my working stating that I need it for work and that if I don't get it back I could lose my job, but I won't lose my job, just a scare tactic :) .Smartest thing I did was giving the Benz back, just keep in mind, it will go on record as a repo for 5 years, i'm 21, i have some time to rebuild my credit

[blkspdfreak]

wow, i didnt know that. i need to stop speeding. sorry about you luck man. live and learn

[S.A.MSP]

yeah be careful man, please, it's not worth it at all

[SCMP3]

im sorry to here this man. i just joined a while back but your car looked awesome. I live right around the corner from indian trail. you can get the name and adress of the landowner and i can get a couple of guys to kick his behind. lol J/K hope everything works out for you.

[mazdaspeed777]

Yep, gon for a year but I am eligible for a hearing which i'm still awaiting the papers for since I can do it through the mail, i'm certain I'll get it back though, I got a letter from my working stating that I need it for work and that if I don't get it back I could lose my job, but I won't lose my job, just a scare tactic :) .Smartest thing I did was giving the Benz back, just keep in mind, it will go on record as a repo for 5 years, i'm 21, i have some time to rebuild my credit

Yah, I selling all the aftermarket parts off my car and using it to buy a car with cash. So yah. Will not have to worry about credit for a while.

[S.A.MSP]

I'm buying my Jeep cash too!!! Payment's suck!!

[MSP2k3]

Cash is the only way to go!

[S.A.MSP]

double word.


UPDATE: filling in the papers and sending my letter to the NC DMV today, I hope they find it in my favor and I get my license back or atleast reduce the amount of suspension time, I did alot of brown nosing and I hope it pays off!

[bgibb68]

double word.


UPDATE: filling in the papers and sending my letter to the NC DMV today, I hope they find it in my favor and I get my license back or atleast reduce the amount of suspension time, I did alot of brown nosing and I hope it pays off!

good luck dude....my buddy here in austin lost his licence so me and the yellow p5 became a taxi....i just wished i had a meter

[S.A.MSP]

HAHAHAHA, lady here at work give me a ride and then sometimes my neigbours but for quick runs to the store I hop on the scooter and scoot my ass there lol

[bgibb68]

scooter FTW.....i wish i had one last summer when gas was $4 a gallon

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[S.A.MSP]

^^^come again????

[CantCMe]

Wow...I won't be driving through NC anytime soon. Sorry to hear man.

[S.A.MSP]

thanks man, was my own doing though but oh well, lessons learned.

Update: I'm getting my license back on 4/20/09
Let the count down begin...

[fatti03msp]

dam that is one crazy ass scammer post lol.

[S.A.MSP]

lol, yeah I clicked on the links, I DON"T NEED NO DOCTOR TO GET ME LISENCE BACK lol

[fatti03msp]

lol, yeah I clicked on the links, I DON"T NEED NO DOCTOR TO GET ME LISENCE BACK lol

lol it should get removed soon i posted it up so it would get deleted by rush or another mod that has the power.

[S.A.MSP]

I want power :(

[fatti03msp]

I want power :(

lol its actually fun to find the spammer and scammers, sounds nerdy but right now i get paid for it since im at work so its all good lol

sign up to be a mod next time a spot opens.

[S.A.MSP]

I've asked Antoine about it but never got back to me, i'm the pc all day, might aswell help out kill scammers and shizz

[bgibb68]

thanks man, was my own doing though but oh well, lessons learned.

Update: I'm getting my license back on 4/20/09
Let the count down begin...

that's an interesting date to get your licence back on....rememeber to smoke up afterwards....just a thought though

[S.A.MSP]

nah, have never and will never touch that stuff or any other drug.

License suspension date was 10/20/08 so they cut it down to a six month suspension and ended up with that date

[bgibb68]

that's not to shaby....and good work on no smokage

[S.A.MSP]

lol, thanks. I never really had the urge to ever try drugs, never phased me lol

[bgibb68]

i like my caffein and nicotine....and well jack....

[Pmpkinhead]

Any pics of it out of "the oven"(flame)

Really sorry for your loss!

367 (mp3yellow

[S.A.MSP]

first post has a torched pic, non outside the building though

[mazdaspeed777]

What did you do with the burnt up MSP? Sent to a junk yard?

[S.A.MSP]

i don't know where it is or what happened to it, i was here in TX, i'm guessing everything was taken away to a scrap yard, would have liked to maybe try and salvage the wheels atleast

[mazdaspeed777]

i don't know where it is or what happened to it, i was here in TX, i'm guessing everything was taken away to a scrap yard, would have liked to maybe try and salvage the wheels atleast

I would think you would have been able to salvage the chassi as well. Would have probably got a little money from the junkyard for it

[S.A.MSP]

everytime I ask my friend he just says they junked it, won't gime me more info

[bgibb68]

did you ever get your money outta the deal??

[S.A.MSP]

i didn't get a thing, neither did my friend though, he's out $200k

[mazdaspeed777]

i didn't get a thing, neither did my friend though, he's out $200k

Man that is a bummer. It is to bad that there are people out there like this guy. Did you ever find a lawer that could help you guys for a reasonable price?

[S.A.MSP]

no new info on it man, i wash my buddy's lawyer wasn't a douche

[mazdaspeed777]

no new info on it man, i wash my buddy's lawyer wasn't a douche

Yah, it is to bad that a lot of the lawers out there are just greedy and selfish and not willing to help people with these kind of situations. I am sure there are some out there though that would be willing to help you without handing over your left arm. Just got to find them

[S.A.MSP]

ugh I tried man, just can't seem to find them, plus i'm all the way in TX and the thing is just so damn messy, all the lawyers i've talked to don't wanna take on the case, it just sucks, I hope the new year has some good karma in store for me

[mazdaspeed777]

ugh I tried man, just can't seem to find them, plus i'm all the way in TX and the thing is just so damn messy, all the lawyers i've talked to don't wanna take on the case, it just sucks, I hope the new year has some good karma in store for me

Well not sure if your a believer or not but god does all things for our good. Sometimes you got to climb out of the pit to gain strength so you can stand when your out. Plus your experience in these troubled times could help someone in a similar mess in the future. Just gotta stay positive and things will be better soon. Hope you get things figured out. Godbless!

[S.A.MSP]

I am a firm believer :) I trust that God has great things in store for me this up coming year and everything that happened this year has made me that much stronger and taught me many lessons, that is why I keep my head up, and stay in church every weekend!!

[808MP5]

holy kamolly... im surprised i missed this thread... sorry for your lose... it was definently one of the best looking MSP and MOTM winner

[mazdaspeed777]

I am a firm believer :) I trust that God has great things in store for me this up coming year and everything that happened this year has made me that much stronger and taught me many lessons, that is why I keep my head up, and stay in church every weekend!!

Glad to here it! Cool man. Yah, make sure to keep going to church. It is good to surround yourself with people that will lift you up and help you in these rough times. I am going through some rough times myself so I know.

[S.A.MSP]

holy kamolly... im surprised i missed this thread... sorry for your lose... it was definently one of the best looking MSP and MOTM winner

Thank you so much man, really appreciate it, make sure to pick up one of the new calendars coming out soon, mine is January :)

Glad to here it! Cool man. Yah, make sure to keep going to church. It is good to surround yourself with people that will lift you up and help you in these rough times. I am going through some rough times myself so I know.


It is def. easier if you have a support system :) also, there are some great people on here to so don't be afraid to speak up!

[xDJ DUBx]

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[anomaly19782009]

sorry for you loss. I personally like to think things happen for a reason. And if that's true, then there's something good in store for you.

I was really more upset about the dog than anything.....I love animals. (>.<)

God Bless though, and hope all turns out well.

[S.A.MSP]

Me too man, that dog was so cute, thank you for the kind words man, it's been a tough year but making smarter decisions due to all this is making next year look a little bit easier :)