blown clutch flywheel and turbo!!!!!

[kennytjr]

ok i had an incident where i apperently gave this car more than it could handle. i blew out the clutch and flywheel which have just been replaced. but they got it back together today and it will only hold idle. will not rev what so ever they put a scan tool on it and it said turbo. thats all they remember. it has 52000 miles on so my question is one have yall heard of this issue and two whats the cheapest turbo i can put in it. stock price is 1400 but i have found garrets that offer 22psi for 1600. what do yall suggest?

[kennytjr]

forgot to give more info. i have a 2006 mazdaspeed 6 with 52000 miles on it. it has a mazdaspeed cold air intake but that is the only mod. untill that night i had a trouble free car

[KZL_99ES]

damn, 52k for only a 2 yr old car... that a ton... guessing you live far from your job?

[TropicalDelight]

i suggest you get rid of the car, you obviously don't know how to drive it.

maybe you need something non turbo and automatic.

[shane02pro5]

You can't just drop a different turbo in there that easily without being able to tune for it.

Try contacting Ken at protege garage "Captain KRM P5" maybe he can help you find a good used one.

That's definately quite a feat to toast your clutch bad enough to need to replace your flywheel but how exactly could the turbo go out at the same time??

[NCZ13]

probably trying to get his bov to go off in neutral...

=P jk

[Shane5425]

man we have asswholes on this forum, Contact ATP, they make a t28 that drops in, it is very similar to our turbo, but holds boost after 6k, i would recommend some kind of tune, but this turbo will run on our stock ecu

[kennytjr]

what would be your suggestions? i beleive i over spooled the turbo. may have hit 6k rpms was running from someone when it happened i hit atleast 155 and yall know the turbo quits at 150. the clutch and flywheel popped during the downshift to take a left! if i were to upgrade what all has to be done before i bolt on a 22 psi turbo

[MR_X]

Something here doesn't make sense. If your turbo is blown, should at least have a "drivable" car.

[USAFVMI08]

I didn't think this car got past like.....145 or so.

[ForceFed]

Wow..I dont say this much...But you sir...Mr. Original Poster are an Idiot..and a liar...and dont have a clue.

Sorry..I feel better now.

[kennytjr]

ok your right about me not having a clue! i dont know anything about this car. all i know is i got drunk and ran from the cops ran down the highway for 10 minutes with the pedal to the floor. i know i saw 155. i then tried to turn while downshifting to use the transmission to slow me down i lost control and skidded to a stop. when i went to drive off i realized i had no clutch. so i gave up. spent the night in a correctional facility and in the following weeks had my car worked on. i fucked up by not taking it to a dealership. but its too late for that now. they replaced my clutch and flywheel. it started and they drove it an eighth of a mile when the dumbass ran out of gas. so he burnt up my fuel pump which has been replaced but now that its replaced the fucking car wont do anything but idle. pedal has to be to the floor for it to do that. he said he had a guy from mazda put a scanner on it and the scanner said turbo. i have just told you what i know. how can yall help. and if all your going to do is tell me how stupid i am and how i should just get rid of the car you can keep that shit to your self.

[ForceFed]

wow..It gets even better.

[TropicalDelight]

lol....the scanner said turbo. I want that scanner.

[kennytjr]

well the scanner said the turbo was the problem

[MR_X]

I don't think you will have a code for the turbo itself. The car should start and run fine with a bad turbo. I think you should demand for them to fix it at their cost since it ran fine before it ran out of fuel. I hope you learn your lesson about drunk driving. I have no respect for your sorry ass. That could have been some one family you slid into.

[superskaterxes]

am i the only person who comes on this forum just for a good laugh?

[sp33d6]

no i'm with you buddy

[ForceFed]

I been here for years....Laghin' it up.

[MSP2024]

cant wait to see where this one goes

[mspHtown]

all i know is i got drunk and ran from the cops ran down the highway for 10 minutes with the pedal to the floor. i know i saw 155.

if all your going to do is tell me how stupid i am and how i should just get rid of the car you can keep that shit to your self.

your stupid

[ForceFed]

^^^LOL....I really did....

[MSP2024]

hahah that is fuckin funny

[menaspeed]

i see a peter pan story .

[bova80]

dumbest story i've ever read. you don't deserve this car or any of our help.

[ForceFed]

This one will stink soon....When its in the dumpster...Where it belongs.

DRunken Driving....Running from the cops...What a Tool.

[caprisun]

What I dont get is how someone can get plastered, run from the cops "going 155," have a wreck, and only get ONE day in a "correctional facility." In AZ the law recently changed and you get mandatory time in tent city...and an interlock device.

One question though, when will this incident air on COPS? (rlaugh)


Seriously though, I also wonder how my thread relating to a NON-illegal incident that posed a question about mechanical issues got locked, but this thread in which poses a question about mechanical issues stemming from a DUI HIGH SPEED CHASE doesn't get locked? (uhm)

hmmm...just a friendly question so that I may be better informed of the rules around here...any mods care to elaborate?(usa)

[MSP2024]

One question though, when will this incident air on COPS? (rlaugh)
hahah damn that is some funny shit (cryhard)

[caprisun]

...thats what it is, lol. Straight outta cops. I'm looking for it next time its on...

I guess its ok to talk about how one's high-speed DUI arrest in an MS6, but not ok to talk about redline issues as in my thread from last week...I guess thats how it is.

Anywho, enough flaming...the man has a question.

I have no idea what you could do to replace the turbo and save money...best bet is going to be the stock one and just buy that...don't forget the CX-7 and MS3 have the same turbo as the MS6, maybe a parted-out one of those would be the way to go(dunno)...whatever the decision you make, its going to cost a lot. Why try to save 200 and run the risk of a non-mazda part...?

my .02

[Olestra]

What about a PG reworked K04 turbo?

Here is thread on cost:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123709120&highlight=reworked+PG+turbo

And for the record, this thread is epic.
Might I ask what gear you downshifted to? Downshifting to any gear when you're doing 155 mph is never a good idea. You obviously have no idea how gears work. At all.
There are brakes on your car for a reason.

[shane02pro5]

Wow this thread can't possibly get worse...And I may be wrong but I think the CX-7 has a slightly smaller turbo.

[FORZDA 1]

ok i had an incident where i apperently gave this car more than it could handle. i blew out the clutch and flywheel which have just been replaced. but they got it back together today and it will only hold idle. will not rev what so ever they put a scan tool on it and it said turbo. thats all they remember. it has 52000 miles on so my question is one have yall heard of this issue and two whats the cheapest turbo i can put in it. stock price is 1400 but i have found garrets that offer 22psi for 1600. what do yall suggest?

ya, i heerd o dis b4. it be yo trot tingy it no wurkin ain't no terbos gonna fit yo riid so furgit it yu shud riid a bicicl

[mdogg]

will not rev what so ever they put a scan tool on it and it said turbo. thats all they remember. it has 52000 miles on so my question is one have yall heard of this issue and two whats the cheapest turbo i can put in it. stock price is 1400 but i have found garrets that offer 22psi for 1600. what do yall suggest?there is no DTC code for a failed/inoperative turbo. therefore, no, we have not heard of this issue before. finally, i suggest your best option is to buy a vespa so that when you drink and drive and you crash again you only kill yourself

Wow..I dont say this much...But you sir...Mr. Original Poster are an Idiot..and a liar...and dont have a clue.

Sorry..I feel better now.Couldn't say it better myself.

am i the only person who comes on this forum just for a good laugh?you are not alone...

Seriously though, I also wonder how my thread relating to a NON-illegal incident that posed a question about mechanical issues got locked, but this thread in which poses a question about mechanical issues stemming from a DUI HIGH SPEED CHASE doesn't get locked?Don't waste your time trying to figure out how this place is run.

[kennytjr]

for those of you who still want to help me a appreciate it. for those of you calling me a tool and a dumbass yall are correct. it was the dumbest thing i have ever done i put lives at risk. one nail in the road could have killed several and nothing i can say will truely let you know the regret i have over that night. and to answer the question about the one night stay. they had to hold me for 6 hours then i go to court where they will tell me how much more time i have to do. not to mention the fact im driving an 82 3/4 ton pickup without air in memphis. and no you wont see it on cops ive seen the film you cant see my car during the pursuit and when he caught up my car was stopped. ive got the car back now. its depressing to see it just parked. the car will crank and idle but it idles at 600 rpms. if you floor the throttle and crank it, it will stay at 700 rpms if you just crank it with no throttle it stays at 600 rpms. if you ease into the throttle it just dies. almost like it boggs out and dies. would that be because its running really rich for a turbo that isnt burning the excess fuel? im at a complete loss. i completly understand those of you who dont want to help me under the circumstances but i really need to help. i dont know what to do. i wish i could just get out of the car but with this market and how upside down i am on a car that doesnt run that isnt the option at this moment

[kennytjr]

are there any things i can try to trobleshoot to see if it the turbo or if there is a completly different component at fault all together. the shop i had it in didnt know what they were doing

[berad]

probably trying to get his bov to go off in neutral...

=P jk
(wiggle)

[Olestra]

the car will crank and idle but it idles at 600 rpms. if you floor the throttle and crank it, it will stay at 700 rpms if you just crank it with no throttle it stays at 600 rpms. if you ease into the throttle it just dies. almost like it boggs out and dies. would that be because its running really rich for a turbo that isnt burning the excess fuel?

I don't even understand what that means. What does "floor the throttle and crank it" mean? You mean you're holding the throttle down with the car off and then turning the ignition on?
And "if you ease into the throttle it just dies", at which point? With the car in gear, the car in neutral?
The turbo doesn't burn fuel, it pushes air. The car runs rich by design.

[kennytjr]

yes i hold the peddle to the floor start the car while continuing to hold the peddle to the floor and it will run at 700 rpms. then i can release the peddle completly and it drops to 600 rpms. but if i ease back into the throttle after it its 700 rpms it just dies.

[1Sleepy93]

Wow this thread can't possibly get worse...And I may be wrong but I think the CX-7 has a slightly smaller turbo.

Yeah, we CX-7 owners are cursed with a smaller turbo.

There is no scanner that will say "turbo" as a problem. Even if your turbo was toast it would still run and drive. Cats could be clogged, the direct injection system fuggled from lack of fuel, or the engine just plain toast.

[berad]

I don't even understand what that means. What does "floor the throttle and crank it" mean? You mean you're holding the throttle down with the car off and then turning the ignition on?
And "if you ease into the throttle it just dies", at which point? With the car in gear, the car in neutral?
The turbo doesn't burn fuel, it pushes air. The car runs rich by design.

Sounds like a throttle position sensor. If it's running rich it would detonate or knock.

Pull any codes yet? Sounds like a limp mode.

Should turn the key and it will idle higher for the warm-up period before dropping down to 1k

[SPEED3TYPE2]

dude get a gt30r or a good turbo from protege garage! the gt28r is only 1500 and is way more effeciant better than ours.. The gt28r is bigger than my friends evo9 turbo wich is double the size of ours... Bigger turbo=better more efficiant boost= more power with less boost

[2.0t03speed]

i wanan say since they ran fuel out of it they fucked the fuel pump and ill take a wild guess and say since the regular 6 uses normal injection methods and the mzr motor uses direct injection they didnt think anything different and bought the normal 6 fuel pump. Like i said thats just a guess i would think there would be a different fuel pump for the mzr but i could be wrong

[kennytjr]

how would i check to see if it is the wrong fuel pump

[Olestra]

Ask the shop what part number they ordered. Then ask here what the correct part number is.

[kennytjr]

how can i see if there are any codes without having it towed to mazda

[2.0t03speed]

go buy a obd2 scanner at autozone

[MR_X]

go buy a obd2 scanner at autozone

Better yet, rent one.

Dude get it in your head. It is not the turbo. The people that you took it too fucked it up and are telling you some BS. They might have fried the fuel pump. But check you MAF sensor. I will not be surprised if it is disconnected.

[kennytjr]

im starting to see that. first off what and where is the maf sensor. and second im beginning to think that i have the wrong fuel pump installed. its actually looking like i may get to drive my car again in 2008

[berad]

im starting to see that. first off what and where is the maf sensor. and second im beginning to think that i have the wrong fuel pump installed. its actually looking like i may get to drive my car again in 2008

Mass Airflow Sensor - Inline on you intake pipe. Relays data to car computer for proper air/fuel ratios. Look around, make sure everything is plugged in, check all fuses. Turn key to Accessory postion and listen for fuel pump.

[kennytjr]

i was outside playing with the throttle and i managed to get it up to 3500 rpms so i had someone else hold the rpms to 3500 and i looked under the hood the turbo was glowing a really bright redwould that be cause by a clog in the turbo, or intercooler or catalytic converter???

[kennytjr]

i forgot to mention that when i first start the vehicle it acts as if its starving for fuel but then it does start and when it does rev up to 3500 rpms it makes a strange humming noise that comes and goes then it makes a popping sound sounds like detonation to me but im not real sure.

[kennytjr]

anyone live in memphis???

[Olestra]

Stop turning the car on and flooring the throttle, your car sounds like it's going to blow up.

[justanothermp5]

ummm yea a glowing turbo does not sound good
something somewhere in your exhaust is clogged orrrr
you fucked up your engine internals when u were tryin to break the land speed record.....

[kennytjr]

ok so im through messing with the car what do yall suggest. could it be a clogged turbo or would that be in the exhaust. its not something inside of the engine is it?? i would think this problem would be exhaust related but yall are the experts.

[2.0t03speed]

i think you have fuel issues and your combustion process is happening on the manifold and the turbo instead of the cylinder i wouldnt rev it anymore youve probably allready fucked up the turbo enough

[FORZDA 1]

i was outside playing with the throttle and i managed to get it up to 3500 rpms so i had someone else hold the rpms to 3500 and i looked under the hood the turbo was glowing a really bright redwould that be cause by a clog in the turbo, or intercooler or catalytic converter???

Well, the turbo does glow bright red when it is operating under boost at 3500 rpm. However, considering your adventures, it could indeed have a crushed exhaust pipe or the cat could have collapsed inside restricting the exhaust. Guessing isn't going to fix it though, and all dealer shops are staffed with idiots unless you luck out and find one smart person. A visual will trell the tale. Inspect the exhaust pipes and pull the second cat (two bolts) and look through it. You should be able to see through the honeycomb with your eyeball lined up with the openings. Hold a shop light at the other end. Good luck with this and your maturity issues.

[Labukas19]

yes i hold the peddle to the floor start the car while continuing to hold the peddle to the floor and it will run at 700 rpms. then i can release the peddle completly and it drops to 600 rpms. but if i ease back into the throttle after it its 700 rpms it just dies.

I dont know how this DI really works but on regular multi port/direct port
if you hold the gas pedal at WOT while on start up it shuts the injectors off... (on newer vehicles) i didnt read the whole story. to long and usless junk in it...

[Sveivo]

I'm not going to be rude about your situation, but honestly I thought you were joking when you told the story... (nervous)

[NigHtHaWk219]

what a joke.

[Doubleawill]

(drive)Well sir, I too have had an issue after a dui wreck. What I can tell you is that after the car came back from the body shop, it would not stay started. It always just went dead after attempting to idle. I took it to the dealership, instead of the assholes who worked on it after the accident. It turns out that the fuel pump was clogged up. It cost me a nice penny to get that fixed, but it drives like brand new today. Take it to the dealer and suck it up!
And get into AA....(argh)

[m4tic]

I dont know how this DI really works but on regular multi port/direct port
if you hold the gas pedal at WOT while on start up it shuts the injectors off... (on newer vehicles)

my ms6 does this, if i hold the gas the engine will just turn with the starter.... good way to prime the oil system...

[DRIV4K16]

ok your right about me not having a clue! i dont know anything about this car. all i know is i got drunk and ran from the cops ran down the highway for 10 minutes with the pedal to the floor. i know i saw 155. i then tried to turn while downshifting to use the transmission to slow me down i lost control and skidded to a stop. when i went to drive off i realized i had no clutch. so i gave up. spent the night in a correctional facility and in the following weeks had my car worked on. i fucked up by not taking it to a dealership. but its too late for that now. they replaced my clutch and flywheel. it started and they drove it an eighth of a mile when the dumbass ran out of gas. so he burnt up my fuel pump which has been replaced but now that its replaced the fucking car wont do anything but idle. pedal has to be to the floor for it to do that. he said he had a guy from mazda put a scanner on it and the scanner said turbo. i have just told you what i know. how can yall help. and if all your going to do is tell me how stupid i am and how i should just get rid of the car you can keep that shit to your self.


My favorite part of this story is where you say "you fucked up by not taking it to the dealership."

[RobbyMS6]

why the hell would you downshift if your at 6k rpm's in 6th? that makes no sense to me.

[Vicspeed6_AZ]

Um, because he was drunk ..... heh.

[RobbyMS6]

Um, because he was drunk ..... heh.

haha yeah...why he would A. drive drunk, B. run from the cops, and C. try to downshift in that situation is just insane

[mdogg]

Why is this thread still open?

[coyfish]

Lol he tried to downshift to 5th going 150 mph . . . . ouchy!

[Sveivo]

This thread discusses illegal activity and should be pwnz0red. Sorry, but if I can't post about racing a 4 cyl Camry from a stop light (hypothetical situation, meaning fictional), this should not be allowed either.

haha yeah...why he would A. drive drunk, B. run from the cops, and C. try to downshift in that situation is just insane

Downshift for extra powa!!

[DSMvsMSP]

wow what a story, i wish there was a helicopter in the air to catch all that on tape, espcially the part where he has it redlined and downshifts it to take a corner. well im no MS6 expert but i will say this, take it to the experts, as in a CERTIFIED mazdaspeed dealer. they will be able to help you a lot more than any average joe mechanic. I know the MS6 is a picky machine, my dad had one, complety stock but it seemed to always have some electrical issue with a sensor somewhere, thank god mazda has decent warrentys, but in the long run he got rid of the MS6 for a normal 6 and is much happier now.
so the sum it up, just take to to mazda, but if i had to guess, your engine may be done, you pushed it way beyond its limits and it may already be blown

[ForceFed]

This story is still funny to me.

[DaleNixon]

sub zero wins. fatality.

[suffolkspeed6]

listen if ur turbo was blown u would be able to drive ur car it just would hit boost it would u would be able to drive it gramma style really slow accelerating and no rev matching cause it would cause ur shit to blow lol. scince u said it only holds idle at foot to the floor i think who ever put in ur feul pump messed up when they did it cause if it was done right it would idle by itsself and if u blew up ur motor u would be able to even get it to idle how dose it sound when u can get it to idle. fyi if u wanna keep ur car pretty much stock go on ebay search mazdaspeed 6 and get one of there used turbos on the auctions for like 200 then send it out to get reworked tones of people have done that and never had anymore problems and in total ull spend like 600 good fix. soory about all these retardes here hope i can help

[coyfish]

LOL ^^^^^^^^^^^

I guess you didn't read the entire thread. Read the first few pages to learn what this guy did to destroy his car.

Don't know how this thread is still open.

[shane02pro5]

And by the way it's RETARDS!

[USAFVMI08]

Holy crap that gave me a headache.


Back on track.... How's the situation going?

[BoostedSpd6]

the OP hasent signed in since the 10th of october last year..hes most likely in jail.. where he should be..

[Killer]

listen if ur turbo was blown u would be able to drive ur car it just would hit boost it would u would be able to drive it gramma style really slow accelerating and no rev matching cause it would cause ur shit to blow lol. scince u said it only holds idle at foot to the floor i think who ever put in ur feul pump messed up when they did it cause if it was done right it would idle by itsself and if u blew up ur motor u would be able to even get it to idle how dose it sound when u can get it to idle. fyi if u wanna keep ur car pretty much stock go on ebay search mazdaspeed 6 and get one of there used turbos on the auctions for like 200 then send it out to get reworked tones of people have done that and never had anymore problems and in total ull spend like 600 good fix. soory about all these retardes here hope i can help

It was a year ago that this happened.(monkey)