Yet another new owner!

[nortoncat]

Hello all -

Long time lurker :)

Picked up my 09 white MS3 GT today! Only problem is after 7-10miles on the way home, the CEL lit up! Taking it to the dealer tomorrow to see what's up..

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[chief_wiggum]

Congrats on the car -- sorry about the CEL.

[CWPspeed3]

Welcome, my car threw a CEL the first time I ever turned it on. It was a cyl 4 missfire I believe. Interesting way of resetting it they had to rev the car to 4k for 2min... Havent had a problem since, 5500 miles now.

[Super X]

Check you gas cap. Could be loose.

And congrats on the MS3.

[nortoncat]

Ugh. Just got back from the dealer and did not have a pleasant experience. Eventually I learned that the CEL was a mis-fire report. Unfortunately, the techs they had in the service department today, don't have the ability do fully diagnose the reason. TOMORROW they will call mazda HQ techs and attempt then. I should mention the only way I found this out is because I saw the salesman and he had to go inquire since the service-manager didn't care enough to update us on the status of my car. Keep in mind, I bought the car, brand new...YESTERDAY! After finding out that they'll need to keep my brand new car overnight to continue to diagnose it, my fiance and I went into the main show-room and gave the sales manager a piece of our minds. I basically told them my comfort level with my brand-new car was very low at this point. Eventually they arranged for me to drive another car home since I had errands to do today. Atleast they gave me a black 08.5 speed3 to drive temporarily...and boy am I going to drive the hell out of it!! (rockon)

I basically told them if they can't "fix" it by tomorrow, we're going to demand a new [replacement] car since I'm not confident in that particular speed3 I was sold. I do recognize they should be able to fix a simple misfire problem without too much hassle.

The manager was more than happy to give us a "We Owe" for all-season mats after my fiance asked him.

Quite the weekend!

/rant off

[CWPspeed3]

Thats annoying as hell, its the exact same thing that happened with me though. They should only have to hook up their scan tool read the code, and like i said in my earlier post they then rev it to 4k for 2min, the car shuts down remove key, put key back in, cel gone, drive home. It took them less than 10min, there is no reason they should have needed to keep your car over night. A miss fire isnt really anything major and probably just from the constant starting and stopping while moving your car around the dealer. Sucks to hear your dealer didnt know what they were doing.

[pdqgp]

Good luck with the fix. I can't imagine it's anything too difficult.

Case in point though why I always drive the heck out of the exact car I'm buying before I sign a thing.

With mine, they were a bit hesitant about me taking it overnight, but I explained to them why and put down my money and said I would return first thing Saturday morning to have them clean it up for delivery that afternoon. They were cool with it.

[nortoncat]

Just talked to the techs, they said my car is fixed! :D

Based on what I absorbed from the explanation; it was carbon build-up within the direct injection system. She advised me, during break-in, I should let the engine come to a comfortable 'warm' operating temperature before I take off, and to avoid short and frequent trips (errands?!). I know I wasn't the cause of the build-up since I didnt drive the car for that many miles - I wonder if it came from Port like that! Oh well, my fiance is now angling for them to throw in the home-link compas/mirror. Yeah, we're total anglers. ;-)

Excited to pick it up today! But in the mean time, I enjoyed taking a 'spirited' drive in the loaner 08.5 ms3 this morning!

[coyfish]

wow a speed 3 to drive. BURRNNNNNN that clutch.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Sweet, at least it is all worked out now and you have that get on the speed3 out of your system so you can treat your new baby with kit gloves during break in.

[coololddude]

be sure they give you paperwork for this problem and for every time they do work on it. not that mazda would screw you regarding the warranty!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[BillTheCat]

From one newb to another... welcome!!! Picked up my '09 MGM MS3S on the 24th. 300 miles, no CEL. Sorry to hear about your issues. Here's hoping that's the last time you need to visit the dealer for a while.

[nortoncat]

be sure they give you paperwork for this problem and for every time they do work on it. not that mazda would screw you regarding the warranty!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

I defenitely got the paperwork with a print-out of the CEL and the diagnosis/fix. I am happy to report that my brand new 09 ms3 GT is sitting comfortably in its parking spot right now (sans CEL!).

Going to be all smiles tomorrow driving to work. Infact, I think I'm going to wake up early to avoid traffic and have the roads to myself.

[jon619]

I defenitely got the paperwork with a print-out of the CEL and the diagnosis/fix. I am happy to report that my brand new 09 ms3 GT is sitting comfortably in its parking spot right now (sans CEL!).

Going to be all smiles tomorrow driving to work. Infact, I think I'm going to wake up early to avoid traffic and have the roads to myself.

So what was the diagnosis/fix?

[MikeHTally]

A new motor at 4K for two minutes? Was this under load, or parked? Sounds like you got the wrong dealer. They should have been able to clear the code without starting the motor at all.

[15min5k]

Sweet, at least it is all worked out now and you have that get on the speed3 out of your system so you can treat your new baby with kit gloves during break in.


I flog the shit out of my new cars from the git go and they always run well and without issues.

[Moultese]

Welcome. I had the same problem when I got my car. Only, when I drove it off the lot the CEL was on. I had to schedule and appointment and wait forever for a stupid part. I wasn't pleased, but the more I drive my car, the more I forget about that.

[Huligan]

i believe the term is "kid gloves" not "kit gloves"

just fyi :p

[nortoncat]

So what was the diagnosis/fix?


Diagnosis was carbon-buildup inside the direct-injection system. Fix was: remove carbon buildup.

The tech said to let the car come up to a warm operating temp before driving off, and try to avoid short, frequenty stopping trips till break-in is complete.

[CWPspeed3]

Diagnosis was carbon-buildup inside the direct-injection system. Fix was: remove carbon buildup.

The tech said to let the car come up to a warm operating temp before driving off, and try to avoid short, frequenty stopping trips till break-in is complete.

Like I mentioned in a previous post to remove the carbon build up they rev the engine to 4000rpm for 2 min. Its done while parked in neutral, not in gear or while moving. I think someone asked about that before.

[xboxlivemonkey]

i find it hard to believe a brand new car would have carbon build up so soon , make sure that car really WAS new

[CWPspeed3]

i find it hard to believe a brand new car would have carbon build up so soon , make sure that car really WAS new

Mine had 10 miles on it when it happened and was unloaded from the truck the day before. I was told it was build up from numerous starting and stopping and short distance moving around the dealer lot.

[nortoncat]

Mine had 10 miles on it when it happened and was unloaded from the truck the day before. I was told it was build up from numerous starting and stopping and short distance moving around the dealer lot.


That's the exact same reason my service dept gave me, for the carbon build up. I used the new-car delivery checklist that I found on this forum when I was inspecting for taking delivery and I did indeed make sure the VIN matched up to the window sticker to ensure it was a brand NEW 2009 model! I took delivery with 20miles on the odo. I got them to do a "We Owe" for my first oil change (i assume 3k miles), for free. They'll probably use regular non-synth oil. meh - I'll take free when I can get it ;)

[mckraut]

I flog the shit out of my new cars from the git go and they always run well and without issues.

You don't say?

My transmission was rebuilt as well due to 4th gear grinding. They replaced everything but 1st and reverse and it took them about 2wks. Cost was $3,500.00, Thank God it was covered under warranty. I think when my warranty is just about out I'm going to trade it on on something else. I Don't trust the tranny to stand the test of time. My car only had 21k miles and needed a tranny rebuild!

lol

[Kain]

I chortled with great mirth.

[15min5k]

You don't say?



lol

LMFAO! I will admit that was indeed slick :) However, my tranny failure wasn't due to my break in procedure.