View Full Version : trying some thing new maybe?
essejkcamraw
09-22-2008, 10:21 PM
So Im not sure if this has been done yet or not, but its worth a try. as i have been in the process getting into a new car. i own a mazda3 and have been lookin into the speed3, but as much of the price difference it is...i have been looking HEAVILY into the new sti. im kinda of interested in to see what i might get on the trade in on my 3. its an 06 with just under 34k miles and in really good condition. what did everybody else get out of before you got your speed? that is if you traded your old car in for the speed. make/model/year/mileage etc. and how much did you get on your trade?
AAMguy
09-22-2008, 11:20 PM
coming from the suby world, I would not get an 08 sti. The tune from the factory is horrid. I have seen numerous STOCK engines pop right on the track. The car is solid though and looks amazing, you will immediately need to get some sort of em to make the car run proper. Just a heads up...
noGOfast
09-23-2008, 12:04 AM
I traded a 2000 Toyota Celica GT-S just today.
I got 6500 for the car. It had 80xxx miles. If you do jump onto the 08 STI
Be sure it get's the revised map flashed onto the ecu.
I too have seen many 08 engines pop before 10k miles.
duy856
09-23-2008, 12:10 AM
sti!!!! stock ecu = trash tho
duy856
09-23-2008, 12:10 AM
or join the crew and get a mazdaspeed 3 :]
noGOfast
09-23-2008, 12:15 AM
or join the crew and get a mazdaspeed 3 :]
what he said. (wink)
essejkcamraw
09-23-2008, 10:59 AM
coming from the suby world, I would not get an 08 sti. The tune from the factory is horrid. I have seen numerous STOCK engines pop right on the track. The car is solid though and looks amazing, you will immediately need to get some sort of em to make the car run proper. Just a heads up...
yeah, i have read this also...if i indeed do go with the sti....i had planned on getting a flash an tune done to it ASAP. i love my mz3 so thats why im kind of teetering back and forth.
SPEED3TYPE2
09-23-2008, 11:15 AM
that is NUTS! the speed3 is the the bargain of the centruy! why would you get a used sti over a new speed3? the only advatage for sti is from a dig cuase 4whd. i smoke stis all the time..
mazdaspeedster3
09-23-2008, 11:18 AM
Yea, I dont get it. You can have a BRAND NEW car for less than a used STI that some other turd beat the crap out of guaranteed. Doesnt make sense. Also, a used STI is still worth more than a new Speed3.
duy856
09-23-2008, 02:56 PM
speed 3 is winning lol. speed3 is a sleeper car. not many people know its true potential. little mods make big gains
coololddude
09-23-2008, 03:03 PM
if you do not get the speed you will probably get some terrible disease .(karma) then you will not be able to drive the sti anyway. go ahead and snicker. ive seen it happen to people that bought civic si's
duy856
09-23-2008, 03:14 PM
if you do not get the speed you will probably get some terrible disease .(karma) then you will not be able to drive the sti anyway. go ahead and snicker. ive seen it happen to people that bought civic si's
lol!!! (rofl)
essejkcamraw
09-23-2008, 03:51 PM
whether it be the speed or the sti...i plan on buying NEW. not used. the last thing i want is a car like the speed or sti thats been beat to hell. but as far as a speed beating an sti. hmmmm im gonna have to see proof :rolleyes:
duy856
09-23-2008, 03:59 PM
from a roll it can beat the sti. well i beat an 05 sti with simple bolt ons
mckraut
09-23-2008, 04:02 PM
You might want to check out Kelley Blue Book for trade-in values.
duy856
09-23-2008, 04:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2-78hZlJfg
i think the 08 sti can beat the ms3 tho
mazdaspeedster3
09-23-2008, 04:08 PM
I have seen a MS6 take a 08 STI from the roll
speedsports
09-23-2008, 04:18 PM
Having had two scoobs, 02 WRX and 04 STi, here are my pros and cons for the MS3:
Pros:
1. MS3 is definetly a sleeper. No dirty looks from cops, no honda kids wanting to race you in every stop light.
2. I believe that the build quality on the ms3, especially on the interior, is better quality and that of the STI. Furthermore, I think the seats on the MS3 are more supportive than the one of the scoob.
3. The money you are going to save on the MS3 versus the STI could be easily put on the MS3, and have a very close to comparable perfomance on the straights.
4. The people here are alot nicer than at NABISCO
CONS:
1. FWD. The STI rotates beautifully, especially after playing with the suspension/camber.
2. Limited Aftermarket parts compared to the Subaru, but I believe this will change as time goes on.
3. Brakes: Going from Brembos to the stock MS3 brakes was certainly a rude awakening.
Overall, i believe that the STI shouldnt be compared to an MS3. The MS3 should be targeted more towards that new 09 WRX that was heavily revised and improved.
Just my two cents...
AAMguy
09-23-2008, 04:23 PM
man i disagree about the interior. I feel like the ms3 feels like cheap plastic everywhere. my suby just felt more solid and just seemed layed out nicely. the ms3 does have much more pretty dash lighting though :)
essejkcamraw
09-23-2008, 04:35 PM
You might want to check out Kelley Blue Book for trade-in values.
KBB says 12k but im sure i wont get that much from the dealer. they never do give you what kbb says....even though most of them say they use KBB. shady shady.
speedsports
09-23-2008, 04:43 PM
man i disagree about the interior. I feel like the ms3 feels like cheap plastic everywhere. my suby just felt more solid and just seemed layed out nicely. the ms3 does have much more pretty dash lighting though :)
maybe it was just mine, but our 04 had some nasty rattles.
What do you think about that new 09 WRX? I havent sat in a new one yet, simply cause i cant stand the way they look, but the interior should be way nicer than before.
Good to see another ex subaru owner around here!
SPEED3TYPE2
09-23-2008, 04:45 PM
The 06 sti puts out about 235 at the wheels stock same as the speed but its heavier... the 08 sti puts out 265 at the wheels stock BUt its 350lbs heavier, so stock to stock its the same. You cant compare a vid or this or that with out an explanation of mods. mods make power im lightly modded and make 267hp on dynojet if i had dp i would be at 290+whp. If one car is modded and anothger isnt it makes all the diff.
duy856
09-23-2008, 06:50 PM
KBB says 12k but im sure i wont get that much from the dealer. they never do give you what kbb says....even though most of them say they use KBB. shady shady.
lmao they'll prob give you like 7k
C.A.T.A.P
09-23-2008, 07:38 PM
cx7 and i only had it for 8 months before my speed(yippy)
duy856
09-23-2008, 07:42 PM
silver ftw
Alexsered
09-24-2008, 08:09 AM
man i disagree about the interior. I feel like the ms3 feels like cheap plastic everywhere. my suby just felt more solid and just seemed layed out nicely. the ms3 does have much more pretty dash lighting though :)
Man, every sub that I have gotten in looks like really cheap inside, whether its the wrx sedan, STI or the WRX wagon, they all look really cheap compared to the Mazdaspeed3. My buddy just got an 08 wrx with the Nav and all, and he still thinks my interior looks way better quality.
intak3_bLkMs3
09-24-2008, 12:14 PM
lol see proof? have u not seen videos. all my friends drive suby's on a 40 roll i owned my buddy's turbo back sti... he took me till about 80 then my fender poked out by 110 he was at my back wheels it aint hard
intak3_bLkMs3
09-24-2008, 12:16 PM
no offense speed3type2 but u cant compare dyno's different elevations ect. i watched in person an 08 ms3 dyno 246 to the wheels STOCK
essejkcamraw
09-24-2008, 02:36 PM
every video i've seen has been close. but no cigar. suby has won every time....not by much AT ALL though. im not really looking for THE ABSOLOUTLY FASEST CAR out there.though...just nice and will last. extra kick is a plus though :D i live in Tampa...and every speed i see has some stupid ass kid racing in an out an through traffic like a f****** moron. you dont see anyone driving the 08 sti..why? cause stupid kids cant afford them, ive seen three around tampa so far. an has been an older guy driving every one. having something alot of people dont have would be nice. ( even though thats impossible ) esp something some stupid ass kid is racing to get somewhere 5mins quicker. im 21, still pretty much a kid myself. but i wont have mom and dad buying me my car...speed or sti. im sure ill be more than happy with it either way. i love my 3 hatch, and the 09 do look alot nicer than 07 an earlier 08's. we"ll just have to see what it comes down to when i go an look into the two cars.
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