Preview of the flushest setup i've seen on a mazda to date ;)

[WheelDude.com]

http://wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/80017-1/IMG_3409.jpg
http://wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/80025-1/IMG_3421.jpg

More pix to come ;)

18x9 Rota G Force +30mm offset.

[justanothermp5]

niiiice, whats up with the back though? didnt put a wheel on there yet?

i wish the p5 could handle 9in rims

[WheelDude.com]

niiiice, whats up with the back though? didnt put a wheel on there yet?

i wish the p5 could handle 9in rims

We were just test fitting to see if it would work, so we did the front and did the rear, but not @ the same time

The customer did purchase so he's gonna swing by once they are all mounted so we can get pix of the whole car.

The setup looks amazing in person.

[junya1985]

Very nice lookin is thats a speed6 right?

[WheelDude.com]

Very nice lookin is thats a speed6 right?

sure is

[njaremka]

i dunno, they dont look flush to me - looks like the wheel sticks out a little bit

[tsunami]

i should take some pics of mine 18x7.5 42 offset... on a N/A3... about as flush as i have seen.

[njaremka]

THIS is flush -

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2421564344_71f21a25f6_o.jpg

[buddha240]

they should sit about the same on a speed3 right?

[daonly1around]

want to see more pics once finished

[shane02pro5]

225's stretched on a 9" wheel not much of a fan but the wheels look good...
245's would rub with that offset I guess .

I will be fitting 17x9's under my P5 pretty soon with some modifications.

[nate0123]

yea that is significantly beyond "flush"

I'm all for pushing the envelope, but that's bordering on ghetto looking

http://www.paysonarizona.net/Rice/Brown%20Rice/BeanBlueWideWheels.JPG

[shane02pro5]

Roller skate!

[MakeMeGoFast]

225's stretched on a 9" wheel not much of a fan but the wheels look good...
245's would rub with that offset I guess .

I will be fitting 17x9's under my P5 pretty soon with some modifications.

8" barely fits, where the hell are you gonna put another inch?..lol

[nate0123]

8" barely fits, where the hell are you gonna put another inch?..lol
remove fenders

done!

[magnumP5]

Stretched tires are a major FTL!

[MakeMeGoFast]

YEah very Vdub ish

[Yoo Shin]

Hella flush + concave = I want.

EDIT:

Wheeldude, you ought to expeirement with the MS3 with 9" wide, maybe with some of the G Forces in 35 or 38 offset! :)

[K. Soze]

I think it looks really good. I agree with the wide and concave remark. I love the way it looks. I don't mind it sticking a little out.

[nate0123]

I like the style of the wheel too; I just think it went a step or 2 too far. They should have stopped at flush.

[magnumP5]

Up the tire width to 235 or 245 and it would look and perform much better.

[K. Soze]

I agree with that. I like pushing the limits with wheels.


I was kinda scared my wheels wouldn't fit without rolling my fenders, but they fit alright. Now I'm super happy.

[WheelDude.com]

It's not bad, subarus and evos do it all day

Some people like the stretched tire look.

It goes really well with his car

I'll psot up pix of the finished product

Zoeb

[K. Soze]

Please do. I would like to see what it looks like with all four on.

[blueamcat]

As would I. Right now, I can only dream of getting new wheels. No monies. Repainting stock will have to do for me!

[ms6bb0y]

poor dude is being flamed like a mofo on another mazda forum for his unique setup. when i read that thread, i was like damn... no sense of acceptance at all from that community.

[junya1985]

i love how some rims looks with the streched tire look i mount alot of custom rims through my work i put 195 on 8.5 rim for a older BMW

[tunersteve]

well this just proves that the SVNs with a thinner tire should look pretty good then.

[justanothermp5]

it looks sick, idk why people are saying bad things about it, they dont say anythng when evos or stis do it so what makes this any different?

plus ive always liked the euro stretched tire look

[magnumP5]

The stretced tire look is just that - a look. I don't care if it's on a VW, a 240SX or a MS6 because it all looks stupid and actually hurts performance. Less traction, less sidewall rigidity, less treadwear, etc. I'm not saying that combo WheelDude posted looks bad, in fact I think it'd look great but only if the tire width was bumped up.

[mastadon]

I think it is so funny seeing the difference from one car community to another. You put this setup on almost any other forum (suby, evo, 240, hell even honda) and they would all get a hard on for it. But on these Mazda forums you get flamed for having anything other than a shitty looking +50 offset. That setup looks sick as hell, yes it stick out a tiny bit, but it looks great. Not everyone wants the fastest times at the local auto-x, most of us just drive on the streets, and that setup will handle just fine.

on a side note...Any chance of seeing what that setup would look like on a Speed3?

[nate0123]

there's nothing "shitty" about a wheel that FITS

[mikeski]

yea that is significantly beyond "flush"

I'm all for pushing the envelope, but that's bordering on ghetto looking

http://www.paysonarizona.net/Rice/Brown%20Rice/BeanBlueWideWheels.JPG

I like it!! (rofl)

[K. Soze]

I think it is so funny seeing the difference from one car community to another. You put this setup on almost any other forum (suby, evo, 240, hell even honda) and they would all get a hard on for it. But on these Mazda forums you get flamed for having anything other than a shitty looking +50 offset. That setup looks sick as hell, yes it stick out a tiny bit, but it looks great. Not everyone wants the fastest times at the local auto-x, most of us just drive on the streets, and that setup will handle just fine.

on a side note...Any chance of seeing what that setup would look like on a Speed3?



I agree, in a way. I decided on a +42 offset for my 18's. Everyone in the Mazdaspeed Protege section swore up and down that I couldn't go that low, I would rub, yada yada. Well, I did some test fitting with another wheel the same size and it fit. So, I did it and I couldn't be happier. If I could go with a lower offset, I would (which I could with some modification). That brings me to my point....it seems not many people on this board (if any) try to do a little modification to get some different wheels to fit.

I used to have a RSX-Type S and there were a couple guys on clubrsx that fit RIDICULOUS offsets on their car. Granted they had to roll and widen the fenders a touch and run some negative camber, but it was a street setup. No auto-x. Mainly for looks. It looked absolutely amazing. I appreciate the proper fitting wheel and tire combo like everyone else, I just wish some people would get a little wild. I just might try in the future.

[MakeMeGoFast]

pictures?

[justanothermp5]

^+1

[K. Soze]

Pictures of what? The RSX's I'm referring to?

[GMalatrasi]

Here's my setup: 225/45 R17, 7" rim with 45mm offset

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q195/Gmalatrasi/DSCF1192.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q195/Gmalatrasi/DSCF1193.jpg

[alexcited]

those are some nice wheels man.

[Monstar]

It may not be the look that everyone here goes for....But some people like it. I wouldn't say I'm too stretched, but some would....it's a preference thing. Plus the tires were new....might as well use em up before spending $$ on wider ones.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Cars/bridge1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Cars/mazdacaponbridge.jpg
18x8.5 +35 I've re-set my camber since the pics were taken, so I actually tuck the top of the tire now, doesn't sit flush really....more of a tuck.

[MakeMeGoFast]

Pictures of what? The RSX's I'm referring to?

the MSP with 18's

[justanothermp5]

yea thats what i was referring too

and dam that MS6 looks sick, what rims re those? Sport Max or Drifz? they look like drifz

and thats pretty cool how u did the mazda thing on the centercap

[2008MS3]

http://wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/80017-1/IMG_3409.jpg
http://wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/80025-1/IMG_3421.jpg

More pix to come ;)

18x9 Rota G Force +30mm offset.

Was this car actually driven around with that size of wheels and tires? I'm just curious if there would be some rubbing issues once the car travels over some bumps and performs some twists and turns. Also will this size fit the same on a MS3?

[Monstar]

I beat the piss outta my car. Fenders are rolled and I do not rub unless I have 3 people in the back, and 2 in the front. That's about it...I can cruise backroads at about 75% with 2extra passengers and still not rub on HARD corners.

[Yoo Shin]

^ but what size tires?

Wheeldude: It'd be very interesting to see a set of the G Forces in 18x9 35/38 offset on a MS3 :)

[K. Soze]

Here's a link to the thread about my wheels. Newer pics are on the second page.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123716575&page=2

[MS3-oholic]

Why would you want to put a 9" wide wheel when you can only put 225/40 on them to try and keep them from rubbing. Those are going to perform horribly being stretched out that far and stretched tires look stupid IMO. Those are going to perform worse than the stock tires because in a turn you are going to roll straight to the sidewall, and possibly break the bead. My 8" wide wheels are close to flush and don't rub at all with 235/40 size tires. I'll hold the road better becaue I have a properly sized wheel and tire combo. I'm done ranting.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/DSCN2626.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/DSCN2627.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/0816081411.jpg

[magnumP5]

^^^ Perfect, IMO.

[ND4MSP]

A little poke could never hurt anyone. I'm kinda a fan of euro styles though, so that may make me bias. The downside is you need to stretch a little bit to pull the look off.

[slideshow240]

wow...so much hating on stretched tires. none of the cars in here are really stretched all that bad or slammed. im a nonconformist too then....rolled fenders shaved bumper and stretched tires. and still plan on lower and maybe more crazy fitment
pics....

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123709855

[Monstar]

^ but what size tires?



Currently? 225/40
I have a set of 245/40 SP01's sitting in my garage, but can not run them until I get stiffer struts (rear) and I may say F it and snag some 235-40's.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Guns/fendergap.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Guns/rolled2.jpg
Excuse the FILTHY car, went to the range today.

[wisniaPl]

i have 18x8 38 offset and tires dont wear equally should i change my camber??

[Sliver5]

Why would you want to put a 9" wide wheel when you can only put 225/40 on them to try and keep them from rubbing. Those are going to perform horribly being stretched out that far and stretched tires look stupid IMO. Those are going to perform worse than the stock tires because in a turn you are going to roll straight to the sidewall, and possibly break the bead. My 8" wide wheels are close to flush and don't rub at all with 235/40 size tires. I'll hold the road better becaue I have a properly sized wheel and tire combo. I'm done ranting.

thank god

[SeminoleMan]

Here's my setup: 225/45 R17, 7" rim with 45mm offset


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q195/Gmalatrasi/DSCF1193.jpg

That might be the biggest width/height combo on a 17x7 I've seen on a P5. Are the fenders roller? Any rubbing issues?

[Yoo Shin]

Why would you want to put a 9" wide wheel when you can only put 225/40 on them to try and keep them from rubbing. Those are going to perform horribly being stretched out that far and stretched tires look stupid IMO. Those are going to perform worse than the stock tires because in a turn you are going to roll straight to the sidewall, and possibly break the bead. My 8" wide wheels are close to flush and don't rub at all with 235/40 size tires. I'll hold the road better becaue I have a properly sized wheel and tire combo. I'm done ranting.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/DSCN2626.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/DSCN2627.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/0816081411.jpg

How do you like those tires in the rain/wet especially compared to the RE050s?

I agree that the point of going to a wider 8.5 or 9 is to be able to make use of a wider 235/245+ tire for competative driving purposes. Otherwise it's just for looks and the toll the car will pay (everything from fast wearing brakes to the bearings) is just not worth it.

Flush and concave does look cool but for me, there would have to be a more substancial performance benefit first. Most of the Evos and STIs that I know that run "aggressive set ups do so to max out their size for whichever class they run in SCCA (i.e. like the STU/STX class AWD 245 and 9" width limit).

[MS3-oholic]

It hardly ever rains in San Diego so I haven't had a chance to drive in the wet yet.

[slideshow240]

get balls and run some nasty fitment stuff. camber/stretched tires and rolled fenders/pulled fenders etc.

[magnumP5]

get balls and run some nasty fitment stuff. camber/stretched tires and rolled fenders/pulled fenders etc.
Why, does it make you cool?

[Monstar]

Why, does it make you cool?

No.... But only the cool kids run stretch and -3.0 camber.....(smash)

[K. Soze]

Haha, fo shiz!


Here's one of the RSX's I was talking about earlier.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6850/dsc02270ov0.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3094/dsc02428qs6.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5189/dsc02425uz8.jpg

[magnumP5]

No.... But only the cool kids run stretch and -3.0 camber.....(smash)
Damn, but I like good handling and evenly-wearing tires... Guess that makes me un-cool...

[Monstar]

Ah, I'm just trying to pick a fight....and poking fun at myself.
My car is a daily driver.....and I get tires for free. Not really worried about anything. I change parts and re-align it so often its not funny. Overly stretched tires are chancy and not my thing, I just wanted to get the tightest fit I could on the car for fun. I doubt the wheels are even gonna be on the car come springtime....like I said, I change things a lot. To the P5 guy with the VIP wheels and tuck, props to you for being diff. I've yet to see an MS6 like mine.


Oops. (jacked)

The red car in the original post(s) is tits...I wanna see pics of it with all 4 on.

[MSP4G63]

Haha, fo shiz!


Here's one of the RSX's I was talking about earlier.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6850/dsc02270ov0.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3094/dsc02428qs6.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5189/dsc02425uz8.jpg

if thats whos car i think it is i went to high school with the owner of that car i saw him about 1 month ago and the car looks sick, i think he said they were 10+inches wide.

[K. Soze]

Yes sir! I think they are. Craziness. Nobody in their right mind would think those would fit on a RSX, but there it is.

[wisniaPl]

this rsx looks fucking awesome what camber i should do for 18x8 rims and 38 mm ofset any suggestions??

[MakeMeGoFast]

In all this discussion about wide ass tires and rims,
I can't believe xelderx's P5 hasn't been mentioned.


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q134/MZ424/attachment.jpg

And then there is me
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q134/MZ424/DSCF0511-1.jpg

[WheelDude.com]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1289.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1292.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1304.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1311.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1325.jpg

[/img]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1273.jpg[/img]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1279.jpg

[magnumP5]

I still say it'd look 10x better with a higher offset and wider tires. To me it just looks like those tires are going to pop right off...

BTW, to the previous post, xelderx was running 16x8 RX7 wheels with a 245 series tire IIRC. While awesome, it's the complete opposite to the subject of this thread.

[Monstar]

Baller......that red MS6 is gorgeous.

[m4tic]

wtf dont you have the g-force in 18x8?

[KronixKid22]

Nice! I love originality :)

[altspace]

My previous wheel setup.

Front - 18x8 +36 offset 245/40/18
Rear - 18x9.5 +36 offset 275/35/18

http://www.altspace.com/rx8/rr1.jpg

http://www.altspace.com/rx8/rr8.jpg

[Monstar]

My previous wheel setup.

Front - 18x8 +36 offset 245/40/18
Rear - 18x9.5 +36 offset 275/35/18

http://www.altspace.com/rx8/rr1.jpg

http://www.altspace.com/rx8/rr8.jpg

I am going to assume...on the RX8? Pics please. (boom01)

[nate0123]

I am going to assume...on the RX8? Pics please. (boom01)
do you have pics turned off? because they're right in the post you quoted (uhm)

[CTt3P5]

do you have pics turned off? because they're right in the post you quoted (uhm)

Or he is at work and firewalls are blocking them???

[Yoo Shin]

I'm really curious to see how and what it'd take to get a 18x9 rota with lower offset, maybe 35 or 38, to fit on an MS3. I'd love to have my Black MS3 look something like this..

http://www.ziptied.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10489/out1.jpg

[sl0wthe0ry]

wow that sti is sick

[Monstar]

I love this thread.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Cars/wheelsgood.jpg

[madvillian]

come december, i WILL be a pioneer.. the first one to run 18x9's on a ms3.

[black_ninja23]

Why would you want to put a 9" wide wheel when you can only put 225/40 on them to try and keep them from rubbing. Those are going to perform horribly being stretched out that far and stretched tires look stupid IMO. Those are going to perform worse than the stock tires because in a turn you are going to roll straight to the sidewall, and possibly break the bead. My 8" wide wheels are close to flush and don't rub at all with 235/40 size tires. I'll hold the road better becaue I have a properly sized wheel and tire combo. I'm done ranting.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/DSCN2626.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/DSCN2627.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/eddieviper/0816081411.jpg

what set up is this? I'd like to follow it...

[Circuit]

17x9 on a regular MZ3 - not my car.

http://tigermack.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p59449381-4.jpg

[_MSprotegy]

come december, i WILL be a pioneer.. the first one to run 18x9's on a ms3.

there is already a guy here in houston who is runing on some 18x9 enkie rpo1's

[sn0wman]

I'm really curious to see how and what it'd take to get a 18x9 rota with lower offset, maybe 35 or 38, to fit on an MS3. I'd love to have my Black MS3 look something like this..

http://www.ziptied.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10489/out1.jpg

Me too, I love the aggressive look. Wheeldude, have you experimented with this wheel size and offset on a MazdaSpeed 3?


there is already a guy here in houston who is runing on some 18x9 enkie rpo1's

link?

[R-X-R]

wut is an off set? if i may ask.

[_MSprotegy]

link?

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123704851&page=19

(nailbyt)

[justanothermp5]

according to that, theres 2 people with a 9" wide wheel

but there 17's so he will be the first 18x9 that i know of...

[Monstar]

I guess I gotta step it up a notch.....

18x10 +27.....

[njaremka]

I guess I gotta step it up a notch.....

18x10 +27.....

pics, or fail

[Monstar]

pics, or fail

Who wants my 18x8.5s +35 wheels????? Gotta make room for new shoes.

[TheDirtyGoatee]

Here is just my two cents...

I think that most VDubs can pull the deep dish and stretched tire look but IMO I think they are the only ones who can. To me, the red MS6 looks way too stretched. It almost looks like the car is more a hybrid car/train. The wheel lip makes it look like it could literally drive like it's on rails.

Let me stress once more... IMO!

That RSX... excuse me... Integra (is it RHD?) not diggin it either.

[slideshow240]

Who wants my 18x8.5s +35 wheels????? Gotta make room for new shoes.

pics?

[Monstar]

All my pics are pre wider tires, and suspension. I will get some new ones. But I'm keeping these wheels for now, new shoes come summer.

[slideshow240]

boooooooooooooo

[Monstar]

Pics from Yesterday. I adjusted the sus. again tonight, so I have an extra -.45 degrees in the pics. You get the idea I guess.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/3170972139_36cf2b2fac_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1190/3171783598_95c5046a20_b.jpg

[NoVa 2.0]

Looks good, I’m use to seeing this type if offset on Suby's.

[NoVa 2.0]

I'm really curious to see how and what it'd take to get a 18x9 rota with lower offset, maybe 35 or 38, to fit on an MS3. I'd love to have my Black MS3 look something like this..

http://www.ziptied.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10489/out1.jpg

LOL Hey i know this Suby. Met the guy a few times at local meets.

[Boostin McFly]

LOL Hey i know this Suby. Met the guy a few times at local meets.

Do you know what rims these are along with size...i think this looks sick as possible and it would look good on a black MS3...thanks

[Yoo Shin]

They're Advan RS in 18x9 30 offset. It'd be tuff to get those to fit right. There's a guy doing it with Rotas in that size but had to do major fender pulling.

[NoVa 2.0]

Do you know what rims these are along with size...i think this looks sick as possible and it would look good on a black MS3...thanks

Yes there Advan RS 18x9 +(29) and JIC FLT-TAR coilovers. He also did a Full fender roll/pull.

He has since sold them to another guy on the forum and has gone back to his OEM rims.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/Mccauley703/Paikman1.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/Mccauley703/Paikman2.jpg

[Boostin McFly]

Yeah those rims are sick but I can't justify spending $2000+ on rims. I guess I'll have to go with the poor man's version, the rota tarmac 3s...they are kind of similar, definently not 9inches wide either or as legit.

http://www.wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/4292-1/rota_tarmac3_18_gunmetallic_03.jpg
vs.
http://www.201motorsports.com/images/P/advan_rs_gunmetal.jpg

[Yoo Shin]

Yes there Advan RS 18x9 +(29) and JIC FLT-TAR coilovers. He also did a Full fender roll/pull.

He has since sold them to another guy on the forum and has gone back to his OEM rims.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/Mccauley703/Paikman1.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/Mccauley703/Paikman2.jpg

Back to stock? Interesting. I'd love to see the OEM BBS on an MS3. Inside clearance might be tight though, especially with the 245/40 tire.


Yeah those rims are sick but I can't justify spending $2000+ on rims. I guess I'll have to go with the poor man's version, the rota tarmac 3s...they are kind of similar, definently not 9inches wide either or as legit.

http://www.wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/4292-1/rota_tarmac3_18_gunmetallic_03.jpg
vs.
http://www.201motorsports.com/images/P/advan_rs_gunmetal.jpg

The Tarmac IIIs are actually a clone of Prodrive the Prodrive GC 10s.

http://www.nyxracing.com/images/GC010G_BB.jpg

The G Forces are more like the Advan RS, but still not quite the same. In person, they're quite different.

http://www.nyxracing.com/images/rotanewgforce1.jpg

[WheelDude.com]

Yeah those rims are sick but I can't justify spending $2000+ on rims. I guess I'll have to go with the poor man's version, the rota tarmac 3s...they are kind of similar, definently not 9inches wide either or as legit.

http://www.wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/4292-1/rota_tarmac3_18_gunmetallic_03.jpg
vs.
http://www.201motorsports.com/images/P/advan_rs_gunmetal.jpg

lol, or you can do 18x9 Rota G Force in 18x9 ;)

http://wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/74725-1/IMG_9503.jpg

[NoVa 2.0]

I plan on picking up a set of the Rota Grids in the Spring for my STI. I want to run a 255/35/18

[magnumP5]

I plan on picking up a set of the Rota Grids in the Spring for my STI. I want to run a 255/35/18
Byron, didn't you have SSR's before? Why would you go down to Rotas?!

[TheDirtyGoatee]

To me this is the flushest setup I've ever encoutered...lol




http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn167/turbominivan/3.jpg

[nate0123]

lol

I don't know why people think "flush" means the wheels extend beyond the car's fenders. "Flush" means aligned, folks. Going beyond flush doesn't make it more flush or flushest. Once you go beyond flush, you're getting less flush.

[/rant]

[NoVa 2.0]

Byron, didn't you have SSR's before? Why would you go down to Rotas?!

Not really looking to spend $2,000.00 for another set of nice rims. If they look good on the car, and I like them then that’s all that matters to me.

Doubt anyone is going to give me a hard time for having Rota's considering the amount of wrench time that has been put into my STI. LOL

[zuku26]

To me this is the flushest setup I've ever encoutered...lol




http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn167/turbominivan/3.jpg

WOW it took me a second to realize that the grill was infact an intercooler

[magnumP5]

lol

I don't know why people think "flush" means the wheels extend beyond the car's fenders. "Flush" means aligned, folks. Going beyond flush doesn't make it more flush or flushest. Once you go beyond flush, you're getting less flush.

[/rant]
+1!

Not really looking to spend $2,000.00 for another set of nice rims. If they look good on the car, and I like them then that’s all that matters to me.

Doubt anyone is going to give me a hard time for having Rota's considering the amount of wrench time that has been put into my STI. LOL
Not really giving you a hard time - it's just that you had aftermarket wheels (and good ones too, IMO) that you ditched because you liked the stock wheels better (nothing wrong with that). But now you want to go with aftermarket wheels again...?

[notorque]

8" barely fits, where the hell are you gonna put another inch?..lol

^^^thats what she said!!!


anywho, the flush look is for who wants it, right now my RX8 is set even, you can run a ruler along the fender and the rim is right with it. There is added camber onto the rear though to help with clearence on the rolled fender. I am about to order 10.5 inch rims for the rear though to grab more, likes to tail out under power in a turn.

I noticed that going with wider tires front and rear DEF helped in the corners, but if you keep stock width and just do offset then there really is no gain.

[NoVa 2.0]

+1!

Not really giving you a hard time - it's just that you had aftermarket wheels (and good ones too, IMO) that you ditched because you liked the stock wheels better (nothing wrong with that). But now you want to go with aftermarket wheels again...?

Well I didn't like the SSR's, so I got rid of them for the stock BBS's. (which I like) I'm only looking to buy another set of aftermarket rims that I like in addition to my BBS's. Don't really think there's anything wrong with that?(uhm)

[shadow191]

A wider offset would help somewhat even with stock width wheels in that you have a slightly wider track. That does help handling; although nothing near what wider tires would do.


^^^thats what she said!!!


anywho, the flush look is for who wants it, right now my RX8 is set even, you can run a ruler along the fender and the rim is right with it. There is added camber onto the rear though to help with clearence on the rolled fender. I am about to order 10.5 inch rims for the rear though to grab more, likes to tail out under power in a turn.

I noticed that going with wider tires front and rear DEF helped in the corners, but if you keep stock width and just do offset then there really is no gain.

[HondaEat-R]

Those look like they're great for hard cornering.....not.

[AWDTerror]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2015/img0956.jpg

18x8.5 +38 on a 245/40/18

I'm going to get a set of rota grids at a 18x9.5 +38 this summer

[justinlansdale]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1289.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1292.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1304.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1311.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1325.jpg

[/img]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1273.jpg[/img]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/lexleo510/caNon%20cam%20pics/IMG_1279.jpg

i wouldn't call it flush, but i'd definitely call it aggressive. it seems like people on here are super anti-crazy wheel fitment, i happen to love the look of aggressive fitting wheels although, i do believe that car needs to lowered more and a bit of negative camber would have the car sitting awesome.

i bought 16mm spacers today for my +42 16x7's to bring the offset to a +26 offset and i'm gonna run -2 degrees to have them sit aggressive.

examples:
http://www.christophergifford.com/BlownEuros2009/DSC_0470.jpg

http://www.christophergifford.com/BlownEuros2009/DSC_0698.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3631/3393143233_567116b3be_b.jpg

essentially, that's the look i would be going after.

[Circuit]

That wrx is hot as all hell

[NoVa 2.0]

Yea I have seen that ride. (IStoSTI) He's on IWSTI and NASIOC, very sick ride.

[daonly1around]

Yea I have seen that ride. (IStoSTI) He's on IWSTI and NASIOC, very sick ride.

i wish i had 4k for a set of wheels haha

[magnumP5]

While the wheels certainly look good, throw on a set of tires that fit and setup the suspension properly and you'll see a proper performing STi. He's only hurting performance with that setup...

[justinlansdale]

THIS is flush -

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2421564344_71f21a25f6_o.jpg

also, this setup is NOT flush. look at the fronts...not even close. with a 7" wide wheel, the proper offset to sit flush would be around a +26.

THIS is flush...

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/justinlansdale/spacers_after.jpg

that is a +42 offset wheel, with a 16mm spacer bring the overall offset to a +26. the rim sits flush with the fender.

[ND4MSP]

Thats beautiful, how wide of a wheel could you fit on a sedan with an offset like that?

[BigSlim]

Would it be a bad idea to get just like a 6mm wheel spacer if I wanted to push my wheels out a little more?

[ND4MSP]

depends on who you ask. I'm running 5mm on my msp with stock wheels, and I think it gives a meaner look. I might go extended studs and 10mm or more in the future, mainly because I can't quit the stock wheels. I just love the way they look. Just make sure you have the room with the fenders, and enough thread to put your lugs back on ofcourse. I have read/heard that one of the drawbacks is it may shorten bearing life.

[NoVa 2.0]

While the wheels certainly look good, throw on a set of tires that fit and setup the suspension properly and you'll see a proper performing STi. He's only hurting performance with that setup...

(hand)

[zweetdreamz]

I'd like to see the rear alot lower. Any plans?

[slideshow240]

mine is flush....

[red95_240sx]

no no, you mazda guys dont know anything about herraflush. It takes stretch and camber. that speed 6 is very close.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/red99pro/3519137947_5b41bc21f1_b.jpg

heres some butt sex for any virgins ....to hella flush
http://www.msprotege.com/members/red99pro/herra.jpg

[magnumP5]

^^^ Completely idiotic. Great for those with "LOOK AT ME!" attitude who have no concept of performance...

[red95_240sx]

well, some people go for style, others for performance. Most of these guys have a second set/OEM wheels, and adjustable suspension if they want to go to the track. i know stretced tires can be dangerous, but i dont see why so many of u hate it.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

because it looks fucking stupid! It looks like you were $100 short when ordering tires and had to buy the wrong size....

[magnumP5]

The S2k is marginal but that Audi is ridiculous. I wouldn't feel safe being near that thing while moving for fear of the tire separating. I can understand the "look" but as with everything else it can be taken too far and that Audi is a classic example. I just don't see the point of modifying things to the point where it destroys its functionality (ie, making street car undrivable whether it be through engine or suspension modifications).

[red95_240sx]

ok ok, but this...

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9915/dsc0166hjp.jpg

not even open for debate

[TheDirtyGoatee]

because it looks fucking stupid! It looks like you were $100 short when ordering tires and had to buy the wrong size....


Go to s3mag DOT com and check out the new blog about this. I made the exact same comment. They at S3 love stretched tires and were taking a poll. I said basically it's like you bought the wrong size, and were too stupid to get the right ones so you stretch em.

Stretched tires = Pure Fail.

[magnumP5]

ok ok, but this...

*G35 Pic*

not even open for debate
Personally, I'd rather see 1" less lip, 10 mm less offset and properly fitting tires.

[TheDirtyGoatee]

I think that G35 looks fine the way it is... I slightly agree with the offset and tires but the lip looks fine.

[magnumP5]

I think that G35 looks fine the way it is... I slightly agree with the offset and tires but the lip looks fine.
Wheel lip, not front lip. We're talking about wheels/tires here...

[NoVa 2.0]

I guess everyone has their own opinion. I have seen some cars in person that I think look really good.

I see what Magnum is saying about performance, but I doubt most of the guys running these types of setups are going for performance.

[justinlansdale]

red99pro....i'm right there with you. hellaflush is my homepage on firefox ;-)

the audi is pushing it for me but everything else you posted looks good. my next set of wheels are going to be super aggressive, 17x9's, low offset. i'm actually excited to pull my fenders to fit more aggressive wheel setups.

+11111111111 for aggressive setups.

[red95_240sx]

1" less lip wud look week

edit: weak.

[TheDirtyGoatee]

Wheel lip, not front lip. We're talking about wheels/tires here...

Right. I got that. Did I say front lip? (boom08)


I think that G35 looks fine the way it is... I slightly agree with the offset and tires but the lip looks fine.

(headshake

[magnumP5]

Right. I got that. Did I say front lip? (boom08)



(headshake
Well when what you said makes no sense it's hard to follow. You do realize, that you can't reduce the width and offset while maintaining the same lip, right?

[TheDirtyGoatee]

Understood. Doesn't mean I don't like the lip the way it is. How is that hard to fathom? I'll admit, my initial comment sounded like a dumbass thing to say. Apologies.

[slideshow240]

red99pro....i'm right there with you. hellaflush is my homepage on firefox ;-)

the audi is pushing it for me but everything else you posted looks good. my next set of wheels are going to be super aggressive, 17x9's, low offset. i'm actually excited to pull my fenders to fit more aggressive wheel setups.

+11111111111 for aggressive setups.

possibly ballerness here folks....
i also want 17x9's
i want 17/18 by 9 staggered though. ;)

[slideshow240]

red99pro that audi is the shit.
if i could find the right wheels i would do the same to my wagon but i got 100$ that audi is on airride.
makes a huge difference.
hellaflush.com is the shit.

[justinlansdale]

slideshow240, what size/offset is your current signature setup again?

[red95_240sx]

possibly ballerness here folks....
i also want 17x9's
i want 17/18 by 9 staggered though. ;)

haha. ur being silly willy(wiggle)

[Ractive]

also, this setup is NOT flush. look at the fronts...not even close. with a 7" wide wheel, the proper offset to sit flush would be around a +26.

THIS is flush...

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/justinlansdale/spacers_after.jpg

that is a +42 offset wheel, with a 16mm spacer bring the overall offset to a +26. the rim sits flush with the fender.

More side shots please. I'm looking for the same agressive stance but not TOO agressive. Yours Justin is what I'm looking for but in 17's. Where did you get the 16mm spacer? Too bad we can't fit the P45R's that would be badass.

[slideshow240]

justin when are the 17x9's going on?
i wont be doing anything for a while now

EDIT:
my current setup is mild
17x7 +12
17x8 +34

[Monstar]

My OLD set up.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Cars/fendergap.jpg

Newer, but still NOT current. It's a DD...so I'm not crazy yet. Going 18x10 (8.5 now) after I move. These were taken before about another 1/2inch drop and less camber in the back.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Cars/frush.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Cars/fronttire.jpg

[ND4MSP]

the g35 is proper, the s2k is sex, the audi is bordering wack. It is prob riding on air though. But I can't lie, i'd rock the shit out of all of them.

[sean22306]

http://www.pxracing.com/file/pic/gallery/297.jpg

thats how I roll (lol)


I like how mine sit (215/50/16, 16x8 +50, 5mm front 3mm rear spacers)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/sean22306/MSP/detailed.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/3670008733_478d439dfc_b.jpg
(little high in the rear)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2433/3664833482_c5ef6de7b7_b.jpg

*I need to get a nice shot down the side.

[TheDirtyGoatee]

What wheels do you run Sean? Look like stock P5's painted or something.

[sean22306]

What wheels do you run Sean? Look like stock P5's painted or something.

FD's :)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/sean22306/villemeetlargeps-1.jpg

[justinlansdale]

love it ^

i love FD wheels.

[TheDirtyGoatee]

Pardon me for having to ask because I am obviously dumb... what is FD?

[nate0123]

FD = 3rd gen RX-7

[TheDirtyGoatee]

Duh.... stupid me.

They look good.

[Wagonbacker9]

duh.... Stupid me.

They look good.

+1

[m4tic]

im close... and useable :p

18x8 +35
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/th_IMAG0056.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/?action=view&current=IMAG0056.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/th_IMAG0050.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/?action=view&current=IMAG0050.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/th_IMAG0051.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/?action=view&current=IMAG0051.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/th_IMAG0052.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/?action=view&current=IMAG0052.jpg)

[justinlansdale]

im close... and useable :p

18x8 +35
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/th_IMAG0056.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/?action=view&current=IMAG0056.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/th_IMAG0050.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/?action=view&current=IMAG0050.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/th_IMAG0051.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/?action=view&current=IMAG0051.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/th_IMAG0052.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bmorrisj/ms6%20parts/wheels/?action=view&current=IMAG0052.jpg)

nice!!

almost there.

[slideshow240]

nice mazda 6.

[Monstar]

THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE!!! Anyway.. My car with 25% more flushness...(It's not a word)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Mazda/garageclean.jpg

Front
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Mazda/fronttrush.jpg

Rear
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Mazda/rearflush.jpg

[nate0123]

Can't see the wheels.

[Yoo Shin]

THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE!!! Anyway.. My car with 25% more flushness...(It's not a word)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Mazda/garageclean.jpg

FAIL
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Mazda/fronttrush.jpg

FAIL
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/NoLift3000/Mazda/rearflush.jpg

FIXED

Come on man, side shots, spec, tire size etc. You know how it goes.

[_MSprotegy]

been had poke
http://i26.tinypic.com/1znan8z.jpg

[JC-MP5]

More pics of your car! ^^^ lol

[CnoTataymo]

Anymore pictures of the MS6?

[blueprotegelx]

been had poke
http://i26.tinypic.com/1znan8z.jpg

nice...any more pics?

[_MSprotegy]

its a love and hate kinda thing

http://i38.tinypic.com/opv4fk.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/33lo9dj.jpg

need better photos

[CnoTataymo]

Mustang Bullit wheels?

[justinlansdale]

its a love and hate kinda thing

http://i38.tinypic.com/opv4fk.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/33lo9dj.jpg

need better photos

wheels specs?

[_MSprotegy]

Mustang Bullit wheels?

correct :D




wheels specs?


17x8.5 +29 offset

front tires: 205/45
rear tires: 215/45

[evilmonkeyMSP]

the wheels look a little too "hot rod" for my taste but the aggressive fitment looks awesome.

[_MSprotegy]

the wheels look a little too "hot rod" for my taste but the aggressive fitment looks awesome.

its what sold me when i mounted them (2thumbs)

[PATMAN65]

Veeerrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy Sharp!!!

[_MSprotegy]

Veeerrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy Sharp!!!

thanks man (yes)

[justanothermp5]

what kinda suspension? im assuming full coilovers

[_MSprotegy]

what kinda suspension? im assuming full coilovers

i wish lol
tien s-techs and blown struts i believe (shrug)
coilovers are on the list though

[Turninconcepts]

Got a couple for you guys. These are Rota DPT's in 18x9.5 et 42 on 275 35 18 dunlop Z1 Star Specs. They would it pretty damn well with a 3mm spacer front and rear and some fender work.

http://turninconcepts.com/forums/ms6/tires/image0010.jpg
http://turninconcepts.com/forums/ms6/tires/image0011.jpg
http://turninconcepts.com/forums/ms6/tires/image0012.jpg
http://turninconcepts.com/forums/ms6/tires/image0014.jpg

Car is lowered on H&R springs.

Tony
TurninConcepts

[CnoTataymo]

Wow, that is dope. I like the stance.

[Yoo Shin]

Bad ass MS6! Those tires must grip!

[CnoTataymo]

They grip so much, they break transmissions and axles. Haha.

[Turninconcepts]

Not actually on the car at this point. They need 3mm spacers front and rear and quite a bit of fender work in the rear ot make them fit without rubbing.

[Circuit]

Awesome stance on the MS6

[K. Soze]

Agreed! Those sure don't look like 35 series tires...but maybe it's just me.

[WheelDude.com]

Looking good Tony!

Zoeb

[Turninconcepts]

Agreed! Those sure don't look like 35 series tires...but maybe it's just me.
That's because they are 275's. 35 means the overall sidewall height is 35 percent of the width, in this case 275. There for the sidewall size increases the wider the tire.

Tony

[Turninconcepts]

BTW, thanks to wheeldude.com for the wheels. They are actually for our race car (04 wrx), but since we are finishing out the season on our other Rotas these have been free to roam from car to car. Soon enough though they should have some 285 30 18 Hoosiers on them for next season!

Tony

[K. Soze]

That's because they are 275's. 35 means the overall sidewall height is 35 percent of the width, in this case 275. There for the sidewall size increases the wider the tire.

Tony


Touche (doh)

[zinger002]

So TIC does the tire rub on the suspension parts? or does the rim itself hit?

These pics are making me want to say fuck weight, fittment is more important lol.

[sumthaiguy]

Advan SA3 Ver. 1

F: 18x8.5 +35
R: 18x9.5 +35 effectively

215/40/18 Federal 595ss all around

rolled fenders

Only the rears (18x9.5 +35 effectively) are on in the pics. had a tire blow out and i only had 2 new tires so i just mounted them and put them on so i could drive the car.

i want to space them out more to a +30 offset effectively.

Pics:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2685/4158065267_5b625e0f37_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2487/4158065535_f93e75a9a7_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2545/4158831796_1533fedae1_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4158068625_23639cc353_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4159056454_6e64d4dcc8_b.jpg

[K. Soze]

Nice! Down the line pics.....down the line! Please? :)

[Circuit]

sumthaiguy, SICK fitment. More pics please!

[_MSprotegy]

sick fitment there mike
represent!

[sumthaiguy]

thanks guys! haha yea fitment is nice but could be better! im workin on it lol.

lol iono if its too early in the morning but whats a down the line pic?

chyea represent son! now to slap some super wide low offset on that ms6 of yours man!


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4158067279_2377ff0b08_b.jpg

a little more here... http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123761202

[justinlansdale]

WOW! rears look great. i normally don't like those wheels, but you pulled them off! A+, i'm in for the future pics.

[nate0123]

Kinda like this so you can see the relationship between the wheel and the fender

http://turninconcepts.com/forums/ms6/tires/image0011.jpg

[sumthaiguy]

WOW! rears look great. i normally don't like those wheels, but you pulled them off! A+, i'm in for the future pics.

thanks man! im a big fan of your car too! it looks SICK. yours makes me want one! haha and ive been getting the same response about the wheel choice.

[K. Soze]

Kinda like this so you can see the relationship between the wheel and the fender

http://turninconcepts.com/forums/ms6/tires/image0011.jpg

Yep, that. Sorry I wasn't more clear.


P.S. That fitment looks absolutely sick!

[justinlansdale]

thanks man! im a big fan of your car too! it looks SICK. yours makes me want one! haha and ive been getting the same response about the wheel choice.

thanks!!

i'll be in houston in march for the supra nationals at hennessy, we should meet up!

[sumthaiguy]

o snap foreal!? yea just pm me when you come. i usually go to the night meet right before the thing at hennessy. last time it was INSANELY packed and its only getting bigger. lol i live like less than 40 miles from lonestar motorsport park (hennessy track). should be fun.

[_MSprotegy]

thanks!!

i'll be in houston in march for the supra nationals at hennessy, we should meet up!

i would love to see your car in person too!

[Turninconcepts]

So TIC does the tire rub on the suspension parts? or does the rim itself hit?

These pics are making me want to say fuck weight, fittment is more important lol.
Sorry, been busy. The tire rubs ever so slightly which is why the 3mm spacer or slightly narrower wheels would be needed. Next year the car will have 18 or 17x9's. We have a bunch of 17x9's DPT's left over from the this race season. One set may make it's way onto the car with some 245's on them.

Tony

[sumthaiguy]

finally got all of the wheels on.

18x8.5 28et effectively
18x9.5 35et effectively

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2624/4202127516_29378ed288_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2490/4201365889_670f5038d9_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2668/4201370597_569916821a_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2657/4202185680_23347129ce_o.jpg

more pics here...

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123762350

[nate0123]

waaaay past flush...

[magnumP5]

I don't know why (and no offense to the owner of the MS3 above as this comment does not apply to you) but I see this 'streching/poking/hellaflush' fad turning more into the '15 inch Dayton lowrider fad' of the early '90's. Only this time instead of old American cars it's high-priced imports.

[Wagonbacker9]

I don't know why (and no offense to the owner of the MS3 above as this comment does not apply to you) but I see this 'streching/poking/hellaflush' fad turning more into the '15 inch Dayton lowrider fad' of the early '90's. Only this time instead of old American cars it's high-priced imports.

I just don't understand the non-functional car fads. trends like that are pure styling and serve no use... idk, just not my thing.

[magnumP5]

I just don't understand the non-functional car fads. trends like that are pure styling and serve no use... idk, just not my thing.
You won't win with that one. Non-functional car fads have been going on for years; I mean, have you seen a '59 Cadillac?! I just don't understand modifications that completely destroy the performance or function of the vehicle. I'm talking about wheels that stick out 5 inches beyond the fender with 15 degrees of negative camber with tires that are 7 sizes too small.

[nate0123]

You won't win with that one. Non-functional car fads have been going on for years; I mean, have you seen a '59 Cadillac?! I just don't understand modifications that completely destroy the performance or function of the vehicle. I'm talking about wheels that stick out 5 inches beyond the fender with 15 degrees of negative camber with tires that are 7 sizes too small.
this is getting pretty close to that point

[Wagonbacker9]

my mind keeps flashing to that absurd lexus GS where the outside of the tire is a couple cm off the ground... and how I hope that is the "2012" of this fad.

[_MSprotegy]

idk how wheels and tires are not functional lol you need something to roll on!
whether its to your liking or not it serves a purpose
not everyone's out to be a championship race car driver.

[Wagonbacker9]

putting wheels on that can contact the fenders is the non-function part in my mind.. I'd rather have a fitment that allows me to DRIVE the car instead of having to baby it.

[nate0123]

also... sidewalls aren't meant to be at 45-degree angle to the street... just sayin

[NoVa 2.0]

White MS3 looks sick!

[sumthaiguy]

^ thanks man. lol i drive my car. i dont rub. im not a championship racer lol. my car just serves a different purpose than you guys'. and plus id rather have a wheel stick out than a super sunk in.

[MSM37]

The stretced tire look is just that - a look. I don't care if it's on a VW, a 240SX or a MS6 because it all looks stupid and actually hurts performance. Less traction, less sidewall rigidity, less treadwear, etc. I'm not saying that combo WheelDude posted looks bad, in fact I think it'd look great but only if the tire width was bumped up.


You have no idea what you are talking about do you. lol, so I guess a taller sidewall is more rigid? (bolt)

[MSM37]

http://www.mazda-speed.com/albums/carshow/112_G.jpg

http://www.mazda-speed.com/albums/album230/128_G.jpg

[_MSprotegy]

^ thanks man. lol i drive my car. i dont rub. im not a championship racer lol. my car just serves a different purpose than you guys'. and plus id rather have a wheel stick out than a super sunk in.

(iagree)

[justanothermp5]

can all you negative nancy's stop posting in this thread please, not to be mean, just sayin

nobody who posts in this thread really cares if you dont like the trend, we all know its not "functional" and how "bad for the performance" it is but honestly, we dont care
we dont go post in your threads saying, yuck look at that ugly car, put some flush wheels on it, slam it, etc. so please dont come in here saying that

THANKS :)

[Wagonbacker9]

you will never see me knock a flush setup.... as defined below. this I do solemnly swear.

–adjective
1. even or level, as with a surface; forming the same plane.

[Circuit]

Lawrence, see you need to get stance-ed like Ly...



http://www.mazda-speed.com/albums/carshow/112_G.jpg

http://www.mazda-speed.com/albums/album230/128_G.jpg

[sumthaiguy]

i agree with justanothermp5! no one appreciates a negative nancy. lol. and im sorry to be a negative nancy but that miata isnt flush imo. the tires are flush yes but the wheels are still sunken in.

[Wagonbacker9]

i agree with justanothermp5! no one appreciates a negative nancy. lol. and im sorry to be a negative nancy but that miata isnt flush imo. the tires are flush yes but the wheels are still sunken in.

you know what, you're absolutely right, das is teh intarwebs. if you disagree with the majority, your opinion is not allowed.

(potkettle

[magnumP5]

You have no idea what you are talking about do you. lol, so I guess a taller sidewall is more rigid? (bolt)
Within reason, dipshit. Obviously a 75-series sidewall like what's on my truck is no where near as rigid as the 45-series on my RX-7. Would you like to explain the tire selection on F1 cars to me then? How about CSP-prepped Miatas? Perhaps Tri-points Mazda3's? You don't see any of them running 30-series tires stretched on wheels 7 sizes too big. So next time before you open your mouth to spew bullshit, try thinking a little bit. Until then...

(gtfo)

FWIW, I completely agree with wagon. I will never knock a "flush" setup. I personally applaud those who can source a wheel/tire combination that lines up perfectly with the car's fenders. I don't care what anyone says, any tire and/or wheel that is sticking beyond the fender is not flush.

BTW, I find it hilarious that the first thing any "hellaflush" supporter says is "I'm not a racer so...". Well howabout this, I'm not a ricer so...

Also, that grey Miata posted is sex - that is how wheels/tires are supposed to be. No stretching, nice sidewall, plenty meaty for best overall performance, comfort, etc.

But what do I care, this post will be deleted anyhow...

[MonkeyBone]

That's the most sexy car ever!!!! Love the 22B!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2676/3674090025_41d083f49b_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2520/3674090019_651b6475d9_o.jpg

No hating or I will hunt you and rape the soul out of you.(stfu)

[MSM37]

Within reason, dipshit. Obviously a 75-series sidewall like what's on my truck is no where near as rigid as the 45-series on my RX-7. Would you like to explain the tire selection on F1 cars to me then? How about CSP-prepped Miatas? Perhaps Tri-points Mazda3's? You don't see any of them running 30-series tires stretched on wheels 7 sizes too big. So next time before you open your mouth to spew bullshit, try thinking a little bit. Until then...

(gtfo)

FWIW, I completely agree with wagon. I will never knock a "flush" setup. I personally applaud those who can source a wheel/tire combination that lines up perfectly with the car's fenders. I don't care what anyone says, any tire and/or wheel that is sticking beyond the fender is not flush.

BTW, I find it hilarious that the first thing any "hellaflush" supporter says is "I'm not a racer so...". Well howabout this, I'm not a ricer so...

Also, that grey Miata posted is sex - that is how wheels/tires are supposed to be. No stretching, nice sidewall, plenty meaty for best overall performance, comfort, etc.

But what do I care, this post will be deleted anyhow...

lol, at least we can agree on that. But I still think a lower profile tire is more rigid, especially if stretched. I was just responding to your comment about "less tire rigidity"

Oh, I'm not flush BTW. No need to be. I'm happy as a clam being "Almost Flush"

http://www.mazda-speed.com/albums/album235/ware2.jpg

Seasons Greetings!

[_MSprotegy]

sweet miata!!

how about people let other people do what they want with their cars?
sounds nice eh?

[Wagonbacker9]

sweet miata!!

how about people let other people do what they want with their cars?
sounds nice eh?

and how bout they all let each other have their own opinions about them, be they good or bad, without trying to censor or correct each other too...

[_MSprotegy]

and how bout they all let each other have their own opinions about them, be they good or bad, without trying to censor or correct each other too...
yeah that too i guess lol

[sumthaiguy]

Within reason, dipshit. Obviously a 75-series sidewall like what's on my truck is no where near as rigid as the 45-series on my RX-7. Would you like to explain the tire selection on F1 cars to me then? How about CSP-prepped Miatas? Perhaps Tri-points Mazda3's? You don't see any of them running 30-series tires stretched on wheels 7 sizes too big. So next time before you open your mouth to spew bullshit, try thinking a little bit. Until then...

(gtfo)

FWIW, I completely agree with wagon. I will never knock a "flush" setup. I personally applaud those who can source a wheel/tire combination that lines up perfectly with the car's fenders. I don't care what anyone says, any tire and/or wheel that is sticking beyond the fender is not flush.

BTW, I find it hilarious that the first thing any "hellaflush" supporter says is "I'm not a racer so...". Well howabout this, I'm not a ricer so...

Also, that grey Miata posted is sex - that is how wheels/tires are supposed to be. No stretching, nice sidewall, plenty meaty for best overall performance, comfort, etc.

But what do I care, this post will be deleted anyhow...


you say within reason but it also goes the other way too. too stretched will lead to less contact patch and a decrease in traction. thats probably why you dont see stretched tires in any kind of motorsport besides drifting. everything else is grip. its all about selecting a medium to maximize performance without sacrificing any of the characteristics of the tires. at least thats what i think. but then again... i am no racer. lol.

i think people who bash on stretched tires and what not just dont understand. its not all about performance when your goals are focused around looks. the stretched tire thing is a style. its only for aesthetics unless youre talking about drifting. a bunch of styles use stretched tires. bippu/vip, bosozoku, drifters, low riders, euros, slabs, etc... hellaflush is just the next variation/continuation. its not just some stupid fad that just started. its been around for a long while. i would continue this history lesson but ill let google do its job. search "Hipari Style".



to the miata - o dang you arent flush but my o my is that a nice ass miata! thanks for the full car shots MSM37! car looks absolutely sick.

[MSM37]

Thanks man! I really appreciate the comments. As much as I want to be flush, I just can't bear to give up the ride comfort and peace of mind when driving through shitty Oakland streets. When I was in my teens, it was okay to zig zag across the road dodging every bump. 10 years later, I'd much rather be able to take every turn and dip in stride.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming:

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/Motorvated/miata2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/blkrdstr/ssr/Picture-098.jpg

http://kinod.net/linhbergh/misc/rigged/DSC_0033.jpg

[Jdm_Mica]

^^drool.....

[Monstar]

Me.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2499/4440522194_acf8863ac1_o.jpg

[Circuit]

Wheel/tire specs?

[TheDirtyGoatee]

Holy shit... what'd I miss? lol

IMO... that Subaru RS posted with the white cage is super sexy as is. However, I definitely agree with the idea that sticking out isn't really "flush" at that point. I remember people taking early 90's accords, putting spacers on wheels so they stick out a few inches and everyone laughing... however, not to take away from the fact that the RS is still sexy.

MSM37's Miata... I consider that damn near flush. However, I don't care to get into this whole e-dick arguement, that's just one man's opinion, take it or leave it.

That red Miata is sexy as well. A good friend of mine Derek drives a Limited Ed. blue Miata very similar to that one and he is low, stretched, and it looks damn good.

See for yourself.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x172/hotwaxx88/varstiy09.jpg Granted this is his old setup. His new wheels are the white ver. of that brand where they all look like steelies but are custom made (can't think of the name right this second). This is his sig pic which will show you what I mean.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7262/deerocksig.gif

[protegericky]

diamond racing? lol

[nate0123]

Sport Max/XXR 002?

[TheDirtyGoatee]

diamond racing? lol

That's it. Bingo.

[reynoldsrobbie]

15X10 -25 offset in rear

[MonkeyBone]

15X10 -25 offset in rear

I crapped my pants.

(wiggle)

[nate0123]

I'm sorry, but that's just awful. There is a certain point at which an experiment in aggressive fitment becomes an eyesore. And that's way over the edge.

[shane02pro5]

No way that miata can get on the freeway or turn...

[Supports]

you say within reason but it also goes the other way too. too stretched will lead to less contact patch and a decrease in traction. thats probably why you dont see stretched tires in any kind of motorsport besides drifting. everything else is grip. its all about selecting a medium to maximize performance without sacrificing any of the characteristics of the tires. at least thats what i think. but then again... i am no racer. lol.

i think people who bash on stretched tires and what not just dont understand. its not all about performance when your goals are focused around looks. the stretched tire thing is a style. its only for aesthetics unless youre talking about drifting. a bunch of styles use stretched tires. bippu/vip, bosozoku, drifters, low riders, euros, slabs, etc... hellaflush is just the next variation/continuation. its not just some stupid fad that just started. its been around for a long while. i would continue this history lesson but ill let google do its job. search "Hipari Style".



to the miata - o dang you arent flush but my o my is that a nice ass miata! thanks for the full car shots MSM37! car looks absolutely sick.

All about style....you mean like emos wearing thier little sisters pants and walking around with pink ribbons in thier hair?, or do you mean style like want to be rappers wearing thier pants with the waist line under thier ass cheeks aka they look like they just shit thier pants? these are by what I have been lead to believe cases of style or trying to be "different"-"unique"-"special" just like these people one day you will look back on this "style" and wonder to yourself wtf was I thinking?!

[R3d Baron]

I'm sorry, but that's just awful. There is a certain point at which an experiment in aggressive fitment becomes an eyesore. And that's way over the edge.

If you don't like any of the cars in here, why are you still posting in here and reading this thread? Why subject yourself to something you don't like? Honestly that's sillier than what any "herrafrush" owner is doing.

[zinger002]

If you don't like any of the cars in here, why are you still posting in here and reading this thread? Why subject yourself to something you don't like? Honestly that's sillier than what any "herrafrush" owner is doing.


everyone has an opinion. He is just speaking his.

why do you complain about him voicing his opinion?

Honestly that's sillier than what any "herrafrush" owner is doing.

[R3d Baron]

I just don't understand why someone would continually visit a thread full of cars that are not to his tastes and keep saying they're "awful". We get it, you don't like it, please move on. That goes for the rest of the people spewing negative comments as well... My opinion's been voiced and I'm just gonna leave it at that. Though I can appreciate both sides of the performance vs. looks argument I don't view it as a debate thread.

Oh and the cars are looking good too.

[ms6bb0y]

this thread is great. im not going to run that aggressive of a setup, but i have now been swayed to look at +38 instead of +48

[nate0123]

If you don't like any of the cars in here, why are you still posting in here and reading this thread? Why subject yourself to something you don't like? Honestly that's sillier than what any "herrafrush" owner is doing.That's the first time I called anything on this thread "awful"... just sayin...

I actually do appreciate the aesthetic affect of an aggressive / "flush" fitment. But when the fitment is so out of whack that the tire is practically running into the fender when the car's not even moving, it just reaks of impracticality, as if one false move and these fenders are getting destroyed, the tires are getting sliced, etc. It's a big F.U. to driveability in a car that's meant to be driven hard. It really is that bad, and I don't see how it can be defended.

[R3d Baron]

My apologies then.

[Wagonbacker9]

That's the first time I called anything on this thread "awful"... just sayin...

I actually do appreciate the aesthetic affect of an aggressive / "flush" fitment. But when the fitment is so out of whack that the tire is practically running into the fender when the car's not even moving, it just reaks of impracticality, as if one false move and these fenders are getting destroyed, the tires are getting sliced, etc. It's a big F.U. to driveability in a car that's meant to be driven hard. It really is that bad, and I don't see how it can be defended.

there are those who apparently feel that "zoom-zoom" isn't the idea. I'm looking forward to my flush 16x8 +47 225/50 setup. flush IMO is to fit as much meat under the car as you can, so when you whip it through a corner you stick. no so that when you whip it through a corner you shred your tire.