ebay fmic anyone? [Archive]

03mspblkedout

08-20-2008, 08:59 AM

bought it all off ebay? if you dont mind me askin how much was it. im on a 19yr old budget with my msp and i see universal fmic kits for like 300 just wondering if anyone tried this set up. how hard is it to install

Viralphrame

08-20-2008, 09:16 AM

Personally, I would save my money for a quality, proven setup. Just don't be surprised if you order this "universal" kit and either A) nothing fits or B) massive work is requred to make things fit.

03mspblkedout

08-20-2008, 10:15 AM

yea, your right, i had a buddy luck out with universal piping for his 1.8t jetta and it made me curious if i would luck out also but i probably am better off just saving money for one.

zuku26

08-20-2008, 03:11 PM

Some guys have used universal here I believe that had to order an extra bend and or coupler. If you search the board people have talked about them and whch ones to get. CXRacing makes decent shit. If you look at the ION set-up I believe there's used a bunch of couplers and regular bends to get the job done, might want to model after that one

zuku26

08-20-2008, 04:17 PM

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123654314&highlight=clocking

protegerider

08-20-2008, 04:35 PM

i have been doing some research on this subject and am planning to purchase this setup
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/27x6x2-5-Intercooler-2-5-Turbo-Piping-BOV-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ33742QQihZ011QQitemZ320288187692

or somthing like it. remember you are probably going to run a bov only (unless you want to weld a nipple on the hot pipe). if you do run bov only then you will have to relocate your maf to the cold pipe. it must be in between the throttle body and the bov in order for it to work. there are plenty of threads on this matter. the point is do alot of estimating and guessing on which bends you are going to need and how much and esimate where exactly you are going to want couplers and if you are going to need reducers(most likely and i think you can pick up extra couplers at the hardware store?? idk) and where you are going to route it.

just my 2 cents

SeR_Cyclops

08-21-2008, 10:46 AM

man if i were you guys i would wait and get a good cheep one off the for sale section, i am 18 and i got my MAM fmic for less than 550 bucks.

evilmonkeyMSP

08-21-2008, 10:51 AM

you get what you pay for...

protegerider

08-21-2008, 02:15 PM

you get what you pay for...

that may be true but im not sure if all you guys are like 30 year olds making 6 digit salaries but most of us arent and we cant afford things like 800 dollar fmic or unichips or forged internals or other upgrades that are crazy expensive. we gotta take what we can get. if i ever took the advice of buying the better more expensive thing my account would be depleted right now.

im just saying, you know?

zuku26

08-21-2008, 02:26 PM

There are certain things you don't want to skimp on. But instead of trying to buy everything quickly. If you don't have the $$ take it slow and build it right. It's a bigger waste of money to have to buy the same type of product twice, because you went cheap the first time. Just be keen to the for sale section and you'll find a good deal.

evilmonkeyMSP

08-21-2008, 02:30 PM

lol i doubt anyone on here is making 6 figure salaries...if they were they wouldnt be driving a protege Im sure...

Whats the difference in saving money for a high quality product versus throwing less money at a shitty product? I'd rather not waste my money on shit....

You know...?
that may be true but im not sure if all you guys are like 30 year olds making 6 digit salaries but most of us arent and we cant afford things like 800 dollar fmic or unichips or forged internals or other upgrades that are crazy expensive. we gotta take what we can get. if i ever took the advice of buying the better more expensive thing my account would be depleted right now.

im just saying, you know?

evilmonkeyMSP

08-21-2008, 02:32 PM

(werd) dont buy crap just to have it faster....save your money and if you cant afford it then maybe you dont need it (dunno)
There are certain things you don't want to skimp on. But instead of trying to buy everything quickly. If you don't have the $$ take it slow and build it right. It's a bigger waste of money to have to buy the same type of product twice, because you went cheap the first time. Just be keen to the for sale section and you'll find a good deal.

low_psi

08-21-2008, 11:47 PM

if you want to build a piece of shit car go right ahead.

just because you can buy a part for cheap on eBay doesn't mean you should. there is a reason brand name parts and kits are more expensive. I have yet to see an "eBay special" car that is well built.

save your money. no one here is rich, but if you're smart and spend your money wisely on quality parts... you can have a nice car too.

Viralphrame

08-22-2008, 07:22 AM

that may be true but im not sure if all you guys are like 30 year olds making 6 digit salaries but most of us arent and we cant afford things like 800 dollar fmic or unichips or forged internals or other upgrades that are crazy expensive. we gotta take what we can get. if i ever took the advice of buying the better more expensive thing my account would be depleted right now.

im just saying, you know?

If you cannot afford to do something correctly, then don't do it. Save your money until you can. Think about it--if you cheap out and break something major, did you really save any money?

03mspblkedout

08-22-2008, 08:56 AM

thanx for all the info guess your all right save my money til i can afford a good quality product. its so tempting when you see an ebay fmic for 200 vs 900 for a quality one ya no. but ill use y head on this one since its my first really good condition car that i can keep for a while.

evilmonkeyMSP

08-22-2008, 08:57 AM

just keep an eye out on the F/S section....you can get killer deals sometimes in there but you have to act fast.

special--k

08-22-2008, 04:49 PM

Personally, I would save my money for a quality, proven setup. Just don't be surprised if you order this "universal" kit and either A) nothing fits or B) massive work is requred to make things fit.

AGREEED

i baught some "universal" parts from e-bay, and i found that Universal accually means, Universally not able to fit on any car.

protegerider

08-22-2008, 06:57 PM

just a few links to successful fmic builds

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123654314

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123693977

i know there are plenty more out there

btw the reason the universal kits are so cheap is that they are mass produced and all made by one company.

evilmonkeyMSP

08-22-2008, 09:18 PM

Enjoy it then (dunno) don't know who you're trying to convince tho lol

23dude

08-22-2008, 11:15 PM

I'm with protegerider on this one getting an ebay one just requires a lot of work and time IMO, i have yet seen anyone complain or show any problems with a universal ebay kit FMIC......

mspHtown

08-22-2008, 11:56 PM

im definitely not for buying parts off of ebay.

if your dead set on buying shit off ebay, then atleast get a proven core (spearco, garrett, bell, etc...) and then get universal pipes off of ebay and make it work.

justanothermp5

08-23-2008, 12:02 AM

not everything off of ebay is shit
has anybody ever bought the cxracing intercooler core to compare it to the name brands? no they havent, they assume that the name brands are better just because of the name on it

perrin is a good company is it not? then how did turbolife manage to offer cheaper kits with a bigger core that makes more power? by buying from a no brand company and proving that even if there not known, they still can make quality parts

mspHtown

08-23-2008, 12:31 AM

zuku26

08-23-2008, 12:34 AM

I have a CXRacing core, I got that core because it's a good core that happens to also be sold on ebay. I think the major concern is pipes and the couplers and the clamps. Most of the universal Kits come with crap thin couplers and crap clamps. Once you upgrade it you might as well have bought a product designed for your ride. a ton of couplers is no good. I bought a Used MAM hard pipes set-up for $200 and got the CXRacing core. By doing that I got all the Pipes designed for the best routing not a shit load of cheap couplers and cheap clamps for the same price as the shit ebay kits.
It's your car do what you want but don't get your feelings hurt when the folks on here tell you other wise. If you already have your mind made up and just want confirmation to buy cheap parts....save it!

justanothermp5

08-23-2008, 01:09 AM

sorry i wasnt PERFECTLY clear.

a proven core is not just a name brand core, its one that has been tested.

for example, the turbolife core. he tested it with the perrin core.

oh yea i got what you were saying, just putting my POV out there, not trying to start a flame war or anything lol

low_psi

08-23-2008, 01:12 AM

perrin is a good company is it not? then how did turbolife manage to offer cheaper kits with a bigger core that makes more power? by buying from a no brand company and proving that even if there not known, they still can make quality parts

just because a part makes more power, doesn't mean its better quality.

if you really think a no-name chinese part off ebay is better than a tested and proven part... i can't help you. there are very rare occasions where ebay parts make MORE power but you get what you pay for, and horsepower isn't the only piece of the puzzle.

mspHtown

08-23-2008, 01:13 AM

oh yea i got what you were saying, just putting my POV out there, not trying to start a flame war or anything lol

its all good.

threads like these are pointless. most people have their minds made up before starting them.

mspHtown

08-23-2008, 01:17 AM

just because a part makes more power, doesn't mean its better quality.

if you really think a no-name chinese part off ebay is better than a tested and proven part... i can't help you. there are very rare occasions where ebay parts make MORE power but you get what you pay for, and horsepower isn't the only piece of the puzzle.

i agree, however you come off as implying turbolifes kit is a pos.

there hasnt been any longevity testing, however the core has clean welds and comes off as a quality piece. the design is obviously up to par with the perrin core (pressure drop was the same or less). noone has opened the core, however there hasnt been any claims that they leak.

justanothermp5

08-23-2008, 01:18 AM

yea ur right, he asked about ebay stuff then when everybody said dont do it the guy that already bought the stuff got mad and defensive lol, i actually got a little defensive, idk why though

and to low_psi im not really understanding what your saying, name one thing that makes more HP but isnt better quality

just trying to see if u can do it, cuz i seriously cant think of anything right now

justanothermp5

08-23-2008, 01:21 AM

ahh thought of one, ebay turbo's
some things from ebay are shit, u just have to guess and try to find which ones arent

like piping, idk how someone could fuck up metal pipes
intercoolers i can understand but the cx racing cores have had some good reviews in quality from the people who have bought it, ill take my chance with them
if it doesnt work out them ebay is back to selling shit, if it works out great then maybe people will try some other stuff out and see if its shit or not

MyGrind69

02-20-2010, 12:16 AM

c'mon guys. 9 out 10 people posting here are dead right. I have a ebay one myself. Dude...the cutting and modifing needed is so not worth the trouble of saving the extra money. I only got one because it was right after my ss afc along with my whole turbo setup which ran me around 3 grand. With all due respect...800 bucks for a decent intercooler that fits is not that bad at all. Dude if your that freakin broke then maybe you shouldnt be driving a turbo car anyways. Go pick up yourself a nice lil chevy cavalier or something. STOP abusing these fine machines with crap chinese parts because you cant afford to give them what they deserve. Its like dating a super model and taking them to the mcdonalds drive thru. Just saying. Everyone was right save the money....one nice part is better that a whole heap of shitty no name chucky cheese ass parts!

MyGrind69

02-20-2010, 12:25 AM

i will say that a few people are also right saying the IC cores are ok. Its still just a fitment issue. I ended up swapping for one made for the msp which still utilizes a bumper support bar. While using the ebay setup I had nothing but problems. To many couplers so many places to leak boost pressure not to mention the extra 45 bucks spent on couplers and clamps to make it work. I spent hours cutting and tweaking those pipes and they were still never right. Sloppy.... But thats just me. It drives me nuts if the car aint right...car comes first. I'd sell my mother for an oil change :D