FMIC finally delivered Looky!

[zuku26]

So it's finally in I'm just waiting the my SSQV and 2 90 degree couplers that will mount on the turbo to the "L" pipe which I'm cutting to fit and then from the "L" to the pipe that goes into the intercooler.
Basically exactly as I have it shown minus the 90 degree silicone couplers.
The 3 uptop or the intake!!

[mikeski]

looks good!

[MSPLIFE]

what brand? and you better post pics of it install when you put it in.

[zuku26]

I will post pics. There are already good how too's on installing a fmic. I might though because I'm using a hydrid set-up. I bought a MAM kit that was mod'd for a clocked turbo. So I have to re-modify it to work with my non clocked GT28rs. Basically It becomes an ION/MAM set-up. The nice thing is that I get to ditch 1-2 feet piping from the original MAM set-up and ditch all those couplers used on the ION set-up and not have to cut metal like the Perrin set-up. I think it's win/win. the core is CXRacing
I'll also be cutting up that cold pipe to relocate the MAF. Unless I can mount near that coupler on that side, but I think that puts it in the fender not sure though.

[Packerfan]

Looks like a baby intercooler how cute

[zuku26]

LOL.
I guess it does. It's the smallest CXRacing sells, but it fills the front air dam.


Looks like a baby intercooler how cute

[m_V_p651]

hey is it the 27x6x2.5 cuz i have the exact same one, gonna do a costom piping tho

[zuku26]

Yep that's the one. The one with the 2.5 inlet/outlet. The 2.0 inlet/outlet has them off-centered.

[m_V_p651]

yup, very nice looking fmic tho :), imma try and do my custom kit very soon

[zuku26]

to me the important pieces to have are the MAM pipe that goes from the engine bay into the hot side of the turbo, and the longest piece of the cold pipe. By just having those 2 pieces you eliminate a few couplers and some non needed tubing. The rest is easily fab'd

[xboxlivemonkey]

dude you haz some dust bunnies : D

[satyr36]

dude you haz some dust bunnies : D

lol

[zuku26]

I hate that couch leg it always grabs a chunck dust/hair off my swiffer, and it also scratches up my floors

[magnumP5]

The way you're describing what you're going to do makes me think it's just going to be exactly like the original MAM FMIC kit. I don't see where you're getting this "1'-2'" less piping from.

[505zoom]

Why not just clock your turbo? You can eliminate 180* worth of bends and over a foot of piping.

Also, try to ditch the short 2" section coming off of the IC. There is definitely room to fit 2.5" pipe in there if you want to eliminate that little bottleneck.

[zuku26]

The way you're describing what you're going to do makes me think it's just going to be exactly like the original MAM FMIC kit. I don't see where you're getting this "1'-2'" less piping from.

The Mam Has a large "U" pipe that goes up over then down from the turbo. I obiously don't have that pipe. So I have to make due with what I have.
I'm going from the turbo directly into a 90 degree coupler then down. I lose the Up, over and down piping, which is about a foot maybe a little more.


Why not just clock your turbo? You can eliminate 180* worth of bends and over a foot of piping.

Also, try to ditch the short 2" section coming off of the IC. There is definitely room to fit 2.5" pipe in there if you want to eliminate that little bottleneck.

I was thinking about doing that since the piping is already set-up for that. I just really have no clue how to go about doing that. I think it's a lot more work then I'm able to do. Doesn't it require fabbing up oil and coolant lines and refabbing up the WGA bracket ans such. It can't be as easy as unbolting the turbo and rotating it right?

[magnumP5]

The Mam Has a large "U" pipe that goes up over then down from the turbo. I obiously don't have that pipe. So I have to make due with what I have.
I'm going from the turbo directly into a 90 degree coupler then down. I lose the Up, over and down piping, which is about a foot maybe a little more.
I still don't follow this. I currently have the MAM FMIC on my car and it's routed exactly like you say you are going to. 90 deg coupler off the turbo (previous owner had a larger turbo so he modified it) to another 90 bend downward which connects to the next pipe. Isn't that exactly what you're doing?

[zuku26]

yours was modified. If you compare the original MAM and they I'm going. you have you see there there is a pipe missing on top

[magnumP5]

yours was modified. If you compare the original MAM and they I'm going. you have you see there there is a pipe missing on top
But aren't you essentially just doing the same thing but with silicone couplers?

When I get home from work I'll attach an image of my current setup so you can see what I mean. My current FMIC was modified but it still follows the same path as the original. The previous owner just cut of that first 90 degree bend in the first hotpipe and replaced it with a 90 degree silicone coupler to allow for more wiggle-room for the GT28RS he had upgraded too. If anything, my kit sits just a tad lower than the unmodified form.

[505zoom]

I was thinking about doing that since the piping is already set-up for that. I just really have no clue how to go about doing that. I think it's a lot more work then I'm able to do. Doesn't it require fabbing up oil and coolant lines and refabbing up the WGA bracket ans such. It can't be as easy as unbolting the turbo and rotating it right?

Depending on the downpipe, yes, it is basically just unbolting the turbo, rotating the compressor, and bolting it all back up. I didn't change my oil or coolant lines at all, and was able to re-use the wg bracket exactly like it was before.

I won't say it was the easiest job in the world, but there was no major additional fabbing that had to be done.

[505zoom]

But aren't you essentially just doing the same thing but with silicone couplers?

When I get home from work I'll attach an image of my current setup so you can see what I mean. My current FMIC was modified but it still follows the same path as the original. The previous owner just cut of that first 90 degree bend in the first hotpipe and replaced it with a 90 degree silicone coupler to allow for more wiggle-room for the GT28RS he had upgraded too. If anything, my kit sits just a tad lower than the unmodified form.

He is just talking about the way the pipe goes upward before bending to the passenger side. A coupler sits down on there a little further and that eliminates a little piping. I don't think it is 1-2 feet like previously mentioned, but maybe close to a foot in the end. If you look at installed pics of MAM vs iON, you can see that the iON sits in there a little lower and has a little less pipe coming off the turbo.

[zuku26]

Ok here's a bad drawing but you get the point.
Red= area being eliminated
Yellow = 90 degree couplers
Green= new pipe routing
Purple= ssqv BOV

Is this how yours is?
I would love to see Pics on how your is run.

[zuku26]

He is just talking about the way the pipe goes upward before bending to the passenger side. A coupler sits down on there a little further and that eliminates a little piping. I don't think it is 1-2 feet like previously mentioned, but maybe close to a foot in the end. If you look at installed pics of MAM vs iON, you can see that the iON sits in there a little lower and has a little less pipe coming off the turbo.

Exactly. 2 feet is a stretch a long stretch. But a good foot for sure.

[magnumP5]

Yeah, I gotcha. I was just saying I don't think it's going to be that drastic of a reduction especially considering the MAM hotside is already rediculously long in the first place. This is why I can't wait to get my turbolife FMIC installed.

[zuku26]

I totally agree. The piping is on the longer side, but better then some. Turbolife/ Perrin IMHO is the best set-up. I really didn't want to cut any metal or move any lines ect. So his set-up wasn't ideal for me. Plus a saved a bunch of $$$ going this route. I can't wait to get it in. I'm working on making a templete right now to Paint the MazdaSpeed logo on the IC just the upper portion that will show, in Orange. I think it will look sick behind the factory black mesh.

[505zoom]

Is this how yours is?

Not anymore. I had the iON kit from 03 to like late 04 or early 05, then swapped to the MAM kit. Was running that til last September, and then finally created my own setup that I had been planning for awhile.

I would love to see Pics on how your is run.

Here are a few...

Hot side vs mam kit:

http://www.msprotege.com/members/wooz202/DSC01442.JPG

Cold side vs mam kit:

http://www.msprotege.com/members/wooz202/pipeproject3.JPG

Overall look:

http://www.msprotege.com/members/wooz202/DSC01538.JPG

I think it's sweet to see the turbo and manifold with no pipe in front of them.

There is a thread about it with more pics and info here:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123693977

[zuku26]

Nice.

[Crazee D]

Woot, thanks the pics help!

I am gettin my piping done custom for rear facing end tanks. I am hopin to be super short length.