bada ba ba ba I'm loving it

[koston33]

Just got back from a little ride. Took two of my friends out for a ride in the Speed to show them whats what. And I don't usually push the car to much when I'm driving regular, but when I'm showing someone I like to give it all its got. And I'm still just amazed at this car. It took a nice turn at 80 and my friends were just going crazy. I did some drifting also which was the first time for me, and it just felt like butter, corrected beautifully and then pulled hard out of it. I'm just really happy with the car, and loving it more and more. Any crazy stories you guys got?

[sunny4201]

I had the exact opposite experience than you did. I took my friends for a ride and all that extra weight made the car slow as hell. I even felt embarrassed for talking all that shit about my car then having it accelerate slow.

[UHATEIT]

I had the exact opposite experience than you did. I took my friends for a ride and all that extra weight made the car slow as hell. I even felt embarrassed for talking all that shit about my car then having it accelerate slow.

i agree, I tried to accelerate onto the freeway and it wasn't happening, had 4 peeps in the car with me. All that weight made it slow. But i let a friend drive it with me in the passanger seat and he loved it. Just wouldnt stop talking crap about the "rediculous torque steer" it has tho (nuts)

[micronesia]

My friend wanted me to drive him around in it but it was very new so I babied it somewhat and I guess it wasn't that impressive.

[matsuda]

Took two of my friends out for a ride in the Speed...

It took a nice turn at 80 and my friends were just going crazy. I did some drifting also which was the first time for me...



Your first time "drifting", and with 2 people in the car?

The safety of your passengers is far more important than the need to impress them.

Always drive carefully with passengers in the car. Never forget that you are responsible for their well being.

[lil_red_wagon]

i scared the hell out of a guy that i work with in my rx7. he said something about the fast and the furious when he got in and i said, "fast and the furious is for pussys" and put it sideways down the feeder road of the freeway. he didn't expect that at all.

[dandydaniel]

i scared the hell out of a guy that i work with in my rx7. he said something about the fast and the furious when he got in and i said, "fast and the furious is for pussys" and put it sideways down the feeder road of the freeway. he didn't expect that at all.

hahaha I guess why there is a picture of a crashed car in your sig :). j/k I'm sure you're an excellent driver

[lil_red_wagon]

i appreciate you bringing up the accident that was caused by a 54 year old woman which took away my original investment. that was the first car that ever a car payment on and a year into the three year loan i had 4 payments left to make. i, personally, have never caused an accident, never had a moving violation aside from two speeding tickets, and have been driving for about 8 years now.

real classy of you to bring up the car that almost made me give up on modifying cars all together.

[The Frank]

Your first time "drifting", and with 2 people in the car?

The safety of your passengers is far more important than the need to impress them.

Always drive carefully with passengers in the car. Never forget that you are responsible for their well being.

Yes mother.

[lil_red_wagon]

also, when we RWD'ers talk about getting it sideways, it means that we did a long burn-out. it doesn't mean that we yanked the e-brake and held our breath.

[The Frank]

also, when we RWD'ers talk about getting it sideways, it means that we did a long burn-out. it doesn't mean that we yanked the e-brake and held our breath.

You can drift in a FWD car without snatching the e-brake if you know what you're doing BTW>

[arkenzo]

My post is directed towards the people saying their MS3 was slow due to having passengers, what kind of fat ass passengers did you have? Maybe a couple elephants and a rhino?

I showed off my car to a couple friends , all in the 200lbs range, accelerating didn't make a difference and it handled fantastic going fast during some sharp turns...Even braking was as good.

Maybe my mods helped, but the car is definitely not slow with the AC on and a couple passengers.

[happy and angry]

I showed off my car to a couple friends , all in the 200lbs range, accelerating didn't make a differenceYes it did.

As an exercise: go find one of the numerous ET/trap calculators on the internets and check out what happens to the estimated time for a car with 263 HP when you go from 3100 pounds curb weight to 3300 pounds with a driver to 3900 pounds with three passengers.


Maybe my mods helped, but the car is definitely not slow with the AC on and a couple passengers.No one said "slow." Simply "slower with 600 extra pounds in the car."

Weight has a huge effect on performance.

[Kain]

Recaliberate your butt dyno.

And get skinnier friends.

[JimmiV]

No one said "slow." Simply "slower with 600 extra pounds in the car."



SORRY BUT.... the quote was "Slow as Hell".... Don't get pissed...

[happy and angry]

Fine, pedantically speaking he said slow as hell, but everyone here with a grade 5 reading level and basic socialization skills made the connection between the poster's words and the obvious comparison he was making to his ride when only he is in it.

[The Frank]

Granted extra weight obviously has an affect on the performance of a vehicle but at least the MS3 has great mid range torque to help minimize this affect a lot better than say a Civic si with its whopping 139ft/lbs of torque@5500rpms.

I never felt my car was “slow as hell” even with 4 passengers and language. The 07’ Civic SI I had however did feel a hell of a lot slower with extra weight but it was a lot slower to begin with anyway.

[micronesia]

Yes mother.
Poor response. He's not being a mother to koston33. He's saying, what you do with your own life is your business (very reasonable) but calm the hell down with other people's lives (also very reasonable).

[lil_red_wagon]

i know that you can, it is just that dandydaniel cocksucker was hinting that the fact that i was driving like a moron. i am not sure what it matters to him, i guess he just has to make an ass of himself as often as possible.


You can drift in a FWD car without snatching the e-brake if you know what you're doing BTW>

[matsuda]

Yes mother.

Yeah, us grown-ups just don't know how to have fun, huh?

When there are other people in the car, you turn it down a notch. It really doesn't take a lot of brains to figure that out.

[The Frank]

Poor response. He's not being a mother to koston33. He's saying, what you do with your own life is your business (very reasonable) but calm the hell down with other people's lives (also very reasonable).

And I said "Yes mother" so what's your point?

[arkenzo]

Recaliberate your butt dyno.

And get skinnier friends.

Hey Kain, how you doing? Shut the fuck up.

Thanks (sssh)

[micronesia]

And I said "Yes mother" so what's your point?
My point is that you are being an asshole without any justification. He was not being an annoying whiny mother... he was making a good point that most likely needed to be received. That's not the type of post you should respond to with 'yes mother'

[The Frank]

My point is that you are being an asshole without any justification. He was not being an annoying whiny mother... he was making a good point that most likely needed to be received. That's not the type of post you should respond to with 'yes mother'

Yes mother.

[arkenzo]

Yes mother.

ROFL(hah)

[micronesia]

The internet is so silly.

[happy and angry]

Yeah, us grown-ups just don't know how to have fun, huh?

When there are other people in the car, you turn it down a notch. It really doesn't take a lot of brains to figure that out.Why do people have to be in the car for you to tone it down a notch? There are other people on the road, property to damage, other driver's insurance rates to drive up... you know, all those really good reasons why people should keep their antics on the track?

[micronesia]

Why do people have to be in the car for you to tone it down a notch? There are other people on the road, property to damage, other driver's insurance rates to drive up... you know, all those really good reasons why people should keep their antics on the track?
I agree but this is a losing battle here.

[koston33]

come on guys this is ridiculous, this thread went to crap in two seconds. I was just on a high from my drive, and wanted to hear some other stories of people enjoying there ride. As far as safety, goes I should have specified that my friends wanted me to dog the crap out it. They are speed junkies like me. However when I was drifting it was a on road that no one was on and no one was going to be on. I respect peoples safety and if anyone of the two guys felt uncomfortable, I would have slowed down, and understood. No biggie, so yes safety is always good to practice, we don't want anyone ending up dead, but in the end you are responsible for your own life, and with people in the car, yes of course being the driver you are responsible, and that is huge. So lets just drop it. And just discuss how much fun this car is.

[lil_red_wagon]

threads here go to crap really fast now. i don't know what everyone's deal is now. it used to be really laid back on msprotege. now that there is a name change, all of the people have to change??

[AFcadet]

My post is directed towards the people saying their MS3 was slow due to having passengers, what kind of fat ass passengers did you have? Maybe a couple elephants and a rhino?

I showed off my car to a couple friends , all in the 200lbs range, accelerating didn't make a difference and it handled fantastic going fast during some sharp turns...Even braking was as good.

Maybe my mods helped, but the car is definitely not slow with the AC on and a couple passengers.

Well then you definatly don't have alot of expereince with your car and how it feels.

I can notice a little difference from just one person...I notice a huge difference with 2 people. 3-4 people and the car isnt even fast any more in my mind lol.

Just think about it. the car weighs 3200. add yourself and 2 other people averaging 200...you just bumped up the weight to 3800.

3800 pounds is a fat pig.

Like I said...if you don't notice a difference in the handling and acceleration with 2-3 passangers in the car, then you obviously havn't been driving the car long enough to get a real feel for it. Which makes it scarier to think of you "drifting" the car.

[Bonafide_Spd3]

Sounds fun koston, I haven't did anything fun like that yet, I went 130 on a back road in alabama at midnight, that was a big rush because I didn't know if a deer would jump out or not. And things seemed so fast with the visibility being crappy

[koston33]

that's awesome haven't taken it that fast, got it up to 120 when I was having fun with a porsche cayman on the highway, that guy was hella surprised. I was following him then he switched lanes to let me pull in front and then he followed me, we ended up getting off at the same exit turning different ways. But I glanced over and he gave me a thumbs up and a friendly wave. It was awesome.

[arkenzo]

Well then you definatly don't have alot of expereince with your car and how it feels.

I can notice a little difference from just one person...I notice a huge difference with 2 people. 3-4 people and the car isnt even fast any more in my mind lol.

Just think about it. the car weighs 3200. add yourself and 2 other people averaging 200...you just bumped up the weight to 3800.

3800 pounds is a fat pig.

Like I said...if you don't notice a difference in the handling and acceleration with 2-3 passangers in the car, then you obviously havn't been driving the car long enough to get a real feel for it. Which makes it scarier to think of you "drifting" the car.
Aren't you the litty puts who fucked up with painting your wheels? Bahahahaha, shush noob, you know nothing. (cabpatch) And by the way, this goes to show how stupid you are at reading comprehension. I never mentioned anything about "drifting", AF Cadet? You in the Air force? What a damn shame.

[ZooMIN3]

Welp, I've had enough time in the drivers seat of my MS3; and I can say that with more than one passenger, my car definitely feels a lot slower... add 3 people in the back to that, and it really slows down.... =\ As for turning, it does tend to get a bit funner (I like that word, i know, its not a "real" word, to me it is, yey yey!) My passengers love the thrill of being able to swing my car in turns, they laugh their heads off. In any case, I've suprised a lot of people with the MS3. A few are V8 brick heads buddies of mine have no idea that I'm driving a Speed3... first thing I tell them when they say, cute car. I'm like thanks it gets me from point A to B to C and back to A! They get in, and love the interior...as soon as I give it some go go juice...they're pinned to the seats, and a couple of corners later, they're pretty impressed... I even let one of them drive it. I told him, don't be scared to give it some gas..lol The whole time they had this big grin on their face... the whole time saying... "Hell yeah..whoa shit, I can't believe this car! I'm impressed." Good times man, good times...

[happy and angry]

Aren't you the litty puts who fucked up with painting your wheels? Bahahahaha, shush noob, you know nothing. (cabpatch) And by the way, this goes to show how stupid you are at reading comprehension. I never mentioned anything about "drifting", AF Cadet? You in the Air force? What a damn shame.ur smrt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[matsuda]

Why do people have to be in the car for you to tone it down a notch? There are other people on the road, property to damage, other driver's insurance rates to drive up... you know, all those really good reasons why people should keep their antics on the track?

I believe that most of us could drive with greater margins of safety (less aggressive, etc.) than we normally do.

Also, when there are passengers in the car, the added weight will affect the handling, braking, and acceleration (i.e. the car will respond differently to control inputs).

[Bonafide_Spd3]

Hey arkenzo what is wrong with the AF? You a military hater?

[koston33]

whats the post about again, I started it, but forgot, oh right ZooMIN3 thanks for the post. Ya I let my uncle drive my car down a curvy GA road, and he was blown away, he was just cursing up a storm and smiling the whole time, he said that for what the car weighed it was one of the fastest things he's driven.

[Bonafide_Spd3]

I let my dad drive it down the road and he said he didn't like the torque steer. And said he liked my bro's STI more... F N A

[sunny4201]

I let my dad drive it down the road and he said he didn't like the torque steer. And said he liked my bro's STI more... F N A

Take him for a ride when the gas gauge is at the E

[pdqgp]

My MS3 is more squirly than my 300+ HP V8 GXP which many say has TS. I think it's because it spools up the power faster and with such a short wheelbase
it's not nearly as smooth on the road. Add in it's tendency to wheel hop and not settle quickly and yeah....I can see it being a bit un-nerving for some.


I let my dad drive it down the road and he said he didn't like the torque steer. And said he liked my bro's STI more... F N A

[iredremix]

come on guys this is ridiculous, this thread went to crap in two seconds. I was just on a high from my drive, and wanted to hear some other stories of people enjoying there ride. As far as safety, goes I should have specified that my friends wanted me to dog the crap out it. They are speed junkies like me. However when I was drifting it was a on road that no one was on and no one was going to be on. I respect peoples safety and if anyone of the two guys felt uncomfortable, I would have slowed down, and understood. No biggie, so yes safety is always good to practice, we don't want anyone ending up dead, but in the end you are responsible for your own life, and with people in the car, yes of course being the driver you are responsible, and that is huge. So lets just drop it. And just discuss how much fun this car is.

too many stories to tell man. i think i abuse my car a lil too much lol. the fun factor of this car is a ++++++.. i'm always having fun w it, doing crazy shit

[Bonafide_Spd3]

Just driving in general and having fun is always a plus. I use to have a truck before my speed3 and I would always kick it sideways when turning. Love driving crazy

[08CWP_SoCal_MS3]

You can drift in a FWD car without snatching the e-brake if you know what you're doing BTW>

In a FWD platform it's called Power Sliding I believe and not Drifting.

[coololddude]

i did that too. i was laying rubber, doing doughnuts, even a little drifting. the sales manager said i couldn't do that in the showroom!!