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mazdasp33d
08-14-2008, 12:23 AM
Hello fellow mazda owners. I have 5 grand to dump into my bone stock speed 3. Here is what im thinking for now:

FMIC (Corksport or Cobb) Is there a big difference?
Cobb SRI
BOV
Full Turboback Exhaust (Corksport)
Turbo Timer

Anything else or other recommendations on my choices?

I appreciate it (nana)

probin94
08-14-2008, 12:25 AM
better turbo

sunny4201
08-14-2008, 12:27 AM
Hello fellow mazda owners. I have 5 grand to dump into my bone stock speed 3. Here is what im thinking for now:

FMIC (Corksport or Cobb) Is there a big difference?
Cobb SRI
BOV
Full Turboback Exhaust (Corksport)
Turbo Timer

Anything else or other recommendations on my choices?

I appreciate it (nana)



Here's what im thinking. YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT AN EVO X if you had 5000 to spend

Lil_vicious559
08-14-2008, 12:33 AM
Hello fellow mazda owners. I have 5 grand to dump into my bone stock speed 3. Here is what im thinking for now:

FMIC (Corksport or Cobb) Is there a big difference?
Cobb SRI
BOV
Full Turboback Exhaust (Corksport)
Turbo Timer

Anything else or other recommendations on my choices?

I appreciate it (nana)

If you wanna stay on stock turbo!! You can get

rear motor mounts
PG fuel pump
Intake
FCD.....(Fuel cut defender)
BC.......(Boost Controller)
BOV.....(blow off valve)
TBE.....(Turbo back exhaust)
And a good tune

You should be well over 300+WHP and capable of running low 13's to high 12's on slicks

mazdasp33d
08-14-2008, 12:35 AM
So upgrade the turbo then go from there? And no thanks on the evo.

Lil_vicious559
08-14-2008, 12:40 AM
If you just got the car just stay on the stock turbo, when it blows just upgrade it later. I wouldn't upgrade the turbo!!

Look at laloosh's Stock Turbo MS3

Intake/Turbo-back-exhaust(catted)18psi/PG fuel pump untuned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Rlua6r_40

o.g.sk8er
08-14-2008, 12:58 AM
dont spend it all...blow $2500-$3000 on your car, then put the rest in the bank.

Captain KRM P5
08-14-2008, 01:07 AM
So upgrade the turbo then go from there? And no thanks on the evo.

i would never upgrade the turbo first. with that amount of money to spend i would think about how far you want to take this car and how much you are looking to spend. going bigger turbo with no or few supporting mods can be a recipe for disaster.

you could take $5000 and do the whole gambit of bolt ons and have a very fun daily drivable car. or you could use it as the launchpad to a more ultimate build. it all depends on what you want to do with this car.

b-ron
08-14-2008, 01:25 AM
fuel pump for sure

InFlames
08-14-2008, 01:38 AM
One of those tree air fresheners should do the trick...

...save the rest for beer and hookers http://www.sotsyndicate.com/images/smilies/paranoid.gif

mazdasp33d
08-14-2008, 01:39 AM
i would never upgrade the turbo first. with that amount of money to spend i would think about how far you want to take this car and how much you are looking to spend. going bigger turbo with no or few supporting mods can be a recipe for disaster.

you could take $5000 and do the whole gambit of bolt ons and have a very fun daily drivable car. or you could use it as the launchpad to a more ultimate build. it all depends on what you want to do with this car.

i didnt want to go bigger turbo, i was just asking. i guess i want a really fun d.d. like you mentioned, nothing too serious but maybe just bolt on is the way to go.

GhostMercury
08-14-2008, 01:50 AM
Turbo-Back exhaust
COBB SRI
BPV of your choice
Boost Tubes
Rims
BC Coilovers/APC Camber arms
DashHawk
CPE Motor Mount
Fuel Pump
Front Mount

Shiroi_ms3
08-14-2008, 02:23 AM
One of those tree air fresheners should do the trick...

...save the rest for beer and hookers http://www.sotsyndicate.com/images/smilies/paranoid.gif

+1

Captain KRM P5
08-14-2008, 04:15 AM
i didnt want to go bigger turbo, i was just asking. i guess i want a really fun d.d. like you mentioned, nothing too serious but maybe just bolt on is the way to go.

i wasn't targeting you in any way, just making a general statement to everyone in the thread per se. i think a full slate of well planned bolt ons is the way to go

Lil_vicious559
08-14-2008, 04:19 AM
i wasn't targeting you in any way, just making a general statement to everyone in the thread per se. i think a full slate of well planned bolt ons is the way to go

X2(second)

mazdaspeedkid
08-14-2008, 05:04 AM
i wasn't targeting you in any way, just making a general statement to everyone in the thread per se. i think a full slate of well planned bolt ons is the way to go

X3!!! (thumb)

ndedomin
08-14-2008, 10:01 AM
i wasn't targeting you in any way, just making a general statement to everyone in the thread per se. i think a full slate of well planned bolt ons is the way to go


I agree with the good captain about holding off on the turbo or ANY major power upgrades for the moment.

I would say upgrade your car in the following order no matter how far you plan to take it. Obviously, how far you ultimately go depends on money, but this is a good general guideline for taking your car from stock to DAMN!! If anyone thinks anything should be added to the list or suggests a different order, please do so. This list is simply IMHO.


MOD List by priority:

1) an intake (COBB SRI, AEM CAI, etc.)
2) a by-pass valve (HKS SSQV, Synapse Synchronic, Forge, etc.)
3) a rear motor mount (Street Unit, TRZ, etc.)
4) handling/braking (coilovers, sway bars, new brake rotors and brake pads, wheels, tires, etc.).
5) Engine Monitoring Electronics (gauges, displays, etc)
6) Engine tuner (COBB AP, Unichip, etc.)

My guess is that around step 4, 5, or 6 is where you would run out of your $5,000 depending on what parts you buy (as you can see by my sig, I am currently working on step 4 and 5 and running about $6,000 with my mod list).

IF you ever use more money for your car, continue below:

7) CDFP fuel pump upgrade
8) Upgraded Exhaust System (Manifold, TBE, etc.)
9) FMIC
10) Upgraded Clutch/Transmission (Spec Stage 2 or 3 clutch, etc.)
11) Upgraded Engine Block (pistons, rods, etc.)
12) Upgraded Turbo


This way, IF you ever want to upgrade the turbo, the car will be able to handle all the extra power you are putting down.

GullyBoy21
08-14-2008, 12:04 PM
I agree with the good captain about holding off on the turbo or ANY major power upgrades for the moment.

I would say upgrade your car in the following order no matter how far you plan to take it. Obviously, how far you ultimately go depends on money, but this is a good general guideline for taking your car from stock to DAMN!! If anyone thinks anything should be added to the list or suggests a different order, please do so. This list is simply IMHO.


MOD List by priority:

1) an intake (COBB SRI, AEM CAI, etc.)
2) a by-pass valve (HKS SSQV, Synapse Synchronic, Forge, etc.)
3) a rear motor mount (Street Unit, TRZ, etc.)
4) handling/braking (coilovers, sway bars, new brake rotors and brake pads, wheels, tires, etc.).
5) Engine Monitoring Electronics (gauges, displays, etc)
6) Engine tuner (COBB AP, Unichip, etc.)

My guess is that around step 4, 5, or 6 is where you would run out of your $5,000 depending on what parts you buy (as you can see by my sig, I am currently working on step 4 and 5 and running about $6,000 with my mod list).

IF you ever use more money for your car, continue below:

7) CDFP fuel pump upgrade
8) Upgraded Exhaust System (Manifold, TBE, etc.)
9) FMIC
10) Upgraded Clutch/Transmission (Spec Stage 2 or 3 clutch, etc.)
11) Upgraded Engine Block (pistons, rods, etc.)
12) Upgraded Turbo


This way, IF you ever want to upgrade the turbo, the car will be able to handle all the extra power you are putting down.

I hate you! i really do. I wish i had 2 grand to spend let alone 5. im really upset i wish i could do Step 2,4,6,7,8 and 9. :-(

mazdasp33d
08-14-2008, 12:12 PM
I agree with the good captain about holding off on the turbo or ANY major power upgrades for the moment.

I would say upgrade your car in the following order no matter how far you plan to take it. Obviously, how far you ultimately go depends on money, but this is a good general guideline for taking your car from stock to DAMN!! If anyone thinks anything should be added to the list or suggests a different order, please do so. This list is simply IMHO.


MOD List by priority:

1) an intake (COBB SRI, AEM CAI, etc.)
2) a by-pass valve (HKS SSQV, Synapse Synchronic, Forge, etc.)
3) a rear motor mount (Street Unit, TRZ, etc.)
4) handling/braking (coilovers, sway bars, new brake rotors and brake pads, wheels, tires, etc.).
5) Engine Monitoring Electronics (gauges, displays, etc)
6) Engine tuner (COBB AP, Unichip, etc.)

My guess is that around step 4, 5, or 6 is where you would run out of your $5,000 depending on what parts you buy (as you can see by my sig, I am currently working on step 4 and 5 and running about $6,000 with my mod list).

IF you ever use more money for your car, continue below:

7) CDFP fuel pump upgrade
8) Upgraded Exhaust System (Manifold, TBE, etc.)
9) FMIC
10) Upgraded Clutch/Transmission (Spec Stage 2 or 3 clutch, etc.)
11) Upgraded Engine Block (pistons, rods, etc.)
12) Upgraded Turbo


This way, IF you ever want to upgrade the turbo, the car will be able to handle all the extra power you are putting down.

This sounds good ill do steps here and there. im just looking for a really fun daily driver. im not looking for a track car.

mazdaspeedster3
08-14-2008, 12:20 PM
You bought a really fun daily driver!

StealthWyvern
08-14-2008, 12:24 PM
I say take that 2k for mods and the other 3 for the car loan

UHATEIT
08-14-2008, 04:28 PM
use the $5000 to put onto your loan and then refinance it at a lower interest rate and lower monthly payment :)

Mike240SX
08-14-2008, 09:35 PM
use the $5000 to put onto your loan and then refinance it at a lower interest rate and lower monthly payment :)

This.

Lil_vicious559
08-14-2008, 10:25 PM
use the $5000 to put onto your loan and then refinance it at a lower interest rate and lower monthly payment :)


This.

WOw!! I think anybody would know that!! Did he ask you to tell him that. He's not freaking stupid.

He simply said he want's more usable out of the car so he has 5K to spend!! Mod's (spank)

ZooMIN3
08-16-2008, 01:25 AM
Go with the handling upgrades.

1)Lowering Springs/Camber Links
2)Sway Bar kit. (A lot of people are getting great results with just a rear sway bar upgrade.)
3)Tire/Wheel combo

Then Power upgrades:
1)Intake (Cold Air/Short Ram)
2)Turbo Manifold upgrade
3)Turbo Back Exhaust/or just Cat Back to pass emissions testing. Or go Hi-flow cat...
4)If you must upgrade the Intercooler, do some reading on which is better, an upgraded Top mount, or the Front Mount.
5) Some say that the stock by pass valve is good to go as is, some say an upgraded BPV is the way to go. If you want the sound of an aftermarket BPV, upgrade it. The stock one will give you that PSSH sound with an upgraded CAI/SRI system.

Exterior Upgrades:
1) I like that front bumper that is being sold..not sure what its called, but it looks sick... someone fill in the blank someone? =)
2) Window tint
3) Headlight/Tail light protective film.
4) Nice car washing kit.
5) Maybe a good set of tools to install all you go fast goodies?


Other than that, of course these are just ideas...maybe you already got some sweet stuff for your ride? let us know how it goes!

CamelFilters
08-16-2008, 11:09 AM
I was in a similar situation but instead i spent money elsewhere:
spent $6000 on some good furniture for my brand new house :)
and a $1400 camera lens for my Canon DSLR camera :)
too bad nothing went to the car...
oh well.

good luck

phillyb
08-16-2008, 12:28 PM
I say take that 2k for mods and the other 3 for the car loan

all 5 in the car loan. hahaha


use the $5000 to put onto your loan and then refinance it at a lower interest rate and lower monthly payment :)

+1


WOw!! I think anybody would know that!! Did he ask you to tell him that. He's not freaking stupid.

He simply said he want's more usable out of the car so he has 5K to spend!! Mod's (spank)

shut the fuck up

UHATEIT
08-16-2008, 01:27 PM
shut the fuck up


haha AGREED! Some people are douche bags. That guy needs to take his comments back to the MS6 section where he belongs, or if he wants to talk shit, do it on the .....3forums.com thats where all the douchebags are at, they'll love your inciteful comments over there buddy. Thanks for the backup Phil(thumb)

FrequentFlyer
08-16-2008, 01:30 PM
I'm not a big fan of lots of show and no go, so I would do exterior shit and wheels last. I know you can argue that lightweight wheels can improve acceleration and handling, but IMO, not enough to justify spending $1,500-2,000 just on wheels, unless you're looking for a different look. The OE wheels are not that heavy for 18's and better yet, they're free (well, they came with the car). Tires obviously have a more significant effect on handling, so if they're worn, I would replace them. Prices are approximate:

Cobb SRI = $180
Forge BPV = $150
CPE TBE = $1,200
TMIC = $600
or FMIC = $1,000
BC Coilovers = $1,000
Cobb rear sway = $175
Camber Kit = $250
Short Shifter = $250
Cobb AP = $700
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
$4,905 with the FMIC
$4,505 with TMIC

If you do TMIC, I'd spend the extra $$$ on brake upgrades, mainly pads and SS lines. The brakes on this car are pretty beefy. I don't know if I'd blow money on slotted/drilled rotors. Do a good fluid flush with some Motul.

phillyb
08-16-2008, 07:35 PM
go with the fmic and get some shifter bushings as well.




haha AGREED! Some people are douche bags. That guy needs to take his comments back to the MS6 section where he belongs, or if he wants to talk shit, do it on the .....3forums.com thats where all the douchebags are at, they'll love your inciteful comments over there buddy. Thanks for the backup Phil(thumb)

hahahaha, you got it my man

Lil_vicious559
08-17-2008, 12:12 AM
all 5 in the car loan. hahaha



+1



shut the fuck up

Wow an E-THUG over the Internet!! Your a tool!! (nailbyt)


haha AGREED! Some people are douche bags. That guy needs to take his comments back to the MS6 section where he belongs, or if he wants to talk shit, do it on the .....3forums.com thats where all the douchebags are at, they'll love your inciteful comments over there buddy. Thanks for the backup Phil(thumb)

If anybody is a total douchebag. Your the one!! Simply he asked what to do to the car, not an opinion of putting money into his car loan or etcccc. If you don't like my comments, well that's too bad!! Don't get all butt/hurt(nuts)

junya1985
08-17-2008, 12:37 AM
You should also lower handling is such a great thing

lil_red_wagon
08-17-2008, 12:49 AM
go stand-alone to start, add some bolt ons, get a tune, and save the rest for beer for the install.

JD32883
08-26-2008, 03:03 PM
I have a quick question. If I was to get FMIC, TBE, and SRI what else would I need to make my car safe( and by safe I mean now that I destroyed my warranty)... I believe Fuel pump would have to be involved as well as motor mount. Anything else??

jn_vista
08-26-2008, 03:34 PM
What I want to know is how the hell are you guys getting an extra 5000 bucks laying around. Do you just forget that you have all that money?! Must be nice!

daonly1around
08-26-2008, 03:37 PM
give it to me so i can build my protege to be better than my MS3

p5sundevil
08-26-2008, 03:49 PM
JD you will definaqtely what some kinda of managemtn with those mods and the fuel pump in some shape or form, wether you feel comfortable with a more expensive but more optioned stand alone or if you want to go with the cobb AP or just an air/fuel controller is up to you, but some kind of management would be smart(personally I like the AP).

So say you do Intake(w/ BPV), TBE, FMIC and management you will have more than enough power to have fun and still keep it as a daily driver, maybe eventually add the exhaust manifold.

Spend the rest on suspension(coilovers/sway bars/strut bars) or appearance pending what You like.

My suggestiong would be to do what you want iwth about 3 of that 5k and hold on to the rest in case the unexpected happens.

daonly1around
08-26-2008, 04:33 PM
i didn't know their was a full standalone for the ms3 yet?

happy and angry
08-26-2008, 04:59 PM
Wow an E-THUG over the Internet!! Your a tool!! (nailbyt)
If anybody is a total douchebag. Your the one!! Simply he asked what to do to the car, not an opinion of putting money into his car loan or etcccc. If you don't like my comments, well that's too bad!! Don't get all butt/hurt(nuts)Stop being a dink just because the OP got an answer to his "What should I do with my money?" question that you didn't like.

And it's you're. As in, you are. For example: you are a tool.

Refinancing his loan is something that will help the OP do more with his money which means more money for mods in the long run. It is a smart thing to do, and you are pissing your pants in outrage because someone suggested it. Are you going to stop or do we need to find you a diaper?

phillyb
08-26-2008, 05:11 PM
Stop being a dink just because the OP got an answer to his "What should I do with my money?" question that you didn't like.

And it's you're. As in, you are. For example: you are a tool.

Refinancing his loan is something that will help the OP do more with his money which means more money for mods in the long run. It is a smart thing to do, and you are pissing your pants in outrage because someone suggested it. Are you going to stop or do we need to find you a diaper?

thank you. in all fairness, you are re-hashing an arguement that is about 2 weeks old. i was going to start criticizing that post and come back with comments but i left it alone.

apparently, i'm the tool

happy and angry
08-26-2008, 05:19 PM
Aww man, I don't read post time stamps. Especially on threads that are up at the top of the forum like they are all active and new and shit.

WE ARE BOTH TOOLS (but less so than sp3edster).

phillyb
08-26-2008, 05:22 PM
lol

GhostMercury
08-26-2008, 05:26 PM
Honestly man I would have off on the full bolts ons for one reason...management. There is No Real good engine management for the MS3 as of yet. People have had success with different systems but I would let people do some more testing with them before jumping into it yourself. I would spend some money one coilovers and sway bars first. Check out importimageonline.com for a BC coilover set with sways, and get the rear camber plates. Then pickup a cobb short throw with some bushings to help with shifting, a cobb SRI, and hold the rest of the money until a management system really comes out, and stands above the rest. Then I would pick up the full turbo back exhaust, FMIC, boost controller, and a upgraded BPV. This way you can tune the car for those mods to keep the car reliable.

daonly1around
08-26-2008, 05:31 PM
Honestly man I would have off on the full bolts ons for one reason...management. There is No Real good engine management for the MS3 as of yet. People have had success with different systems but I would let people do some more testing with them before jumping into it yourself. I would spend some money one coilovers and sway bars first. Check out importimageonline.com for a BC coilover set with sways, and get the rear camber plates. Then pickup a cobb short throw with some bushings to help with shifting, a cobb SRI, and hold the rest of the money until a management system really comes out, and stands above the rest. Then I would pick up the full turbo back exhaust, FMIC, boost controller, and a upgraded BPV. This way you can tune the car for those mods to keep the car reliable.

what he said, suspension and wait for a good EMS

lil_red_wagon
08-26-2008, 06:16 PM
yep, if you start with a good engine management, there is no limit to what you can add. i, personally, recommend a stand-alone like haltech. a piggy-back will just intercept the message and change it, meaning that the motor and ecu will "talk" over the piggy-back. a stand-alone will eliminate that and just make a new ecu all together. that makes tuning a whole lot easier.

phillyb
08-26-2008, 06:17 PM
haltech?
which boards are we on?

lil_red_wagon
08-26-2008, 06:23 PM
what do you mean? haltech's are pretty much universal. you just have to get the tuning and harness for them.

phillyb
08-26-2008, 06:56 PM
oh, i'm an idiot, i thought we were talking about a person

GhostMercury
08-26-2008, 10:47 PM
im pretty sure the haltech doesn't work because no one has even used it on the ms3, and I haven't even heard any mention it with the ms3

ZooMIN3
08-27-2008, 02:54 AM
So, any updates to what you're going to spend 5 grand on!?!? =)

lil_red_wagon
08-27-2008, 03:39 AM
universal means that it fits anything. there just aren't people tuning them yet. it is a lot of work to tune a haltech without existing software, so there probably isn't anyone messing with it yet. there are plenty of people that can tune it, but it gets expensive.


im pretty sure the haltech doesn't work because no one has even used it on the ms3, and I haven't even heard any mention it with the ms3

ZooMIN3
08-27-2008, 04:29 AM
universal means that it fits anything. there just aren't people tuning them yet. it is a lot of work to tune a haltech without existing software, so there probably isn't anyone messing with it yet. there are plenty of people that can tune it, but it gets expensive.


yeah. like 5 thousand dollars expensive...lmao

coololddude
08-27-2008, 02:38 PM
take almost the whole $5000 and get a set of O.Z Botticelli III's 19". the car will look so sweet, you will want to drive it SLOOOOW!

clos561
08-28-2008, 12:15 PM
Hello fellow mazda owners. I have 5 grand to dump into my bone stock speed 3. Here is what im thinking for now:

FMIC (Corksport or Cobb) Is there a big difference?
Cobb SRI
BOV
Full Turboback Exhaust (Corksport)
Turbo Timer

Anything else or other recommendations on my choices?

I appreciate it (nana)

if you have a loan, 5g toward that would be the smartest thing

phillyb
08-28-2008, 01:17 PM
no shit...i still wish i had poured all my money into my loan...these bolt-ons CAN wait

lestat13
08-28-2008, 01:25 PM
If its a daily driver, you want to look ahead, think about what you need soon (TIRES!!!!) and what you want it to be. If you want it to be loud and fast, catless tbe, but if you want it tolerable as a dd (and still almost as fast), downpipe and midpipe. intake for sure, bov/bpv at your preference. If you have that much cash burning a hole in your pocket, get it tuned. go standback, or simply a cobb ap. whatever. just some ideas.

mazdasp33d
10-01-2008, 08:56 PM
how come i cant run a injen cia with a corksport fmic? i read somewhere you can't. can you run a fmic off an injen? or get a better intake?

ZooMIN3
10-02-2008, 01:46 AM
You can't run the Injen CAI because the way the piping is ran on the CSFMIC, it'll interfere with the intake. CP-e's FMIC will work with any CAI because the way it was designed. When installed, it sits off centered a bit; hardly noticable.. at least to me. Check it out at their webpage, the site will go into more detail as to why their system allows you to use different CAI systems instead of just one.

I plan on going that route because there is no way in hell I'm spending more green backs on another intake system...lol

ZooMIN3
10-02-2008, 01:50 AM
By the way, how are things coming along with your upgrades?

What have you decided to go with after all?

MPC12347
10-02-2008, 04:55 AM
gl with the fun

Unkillable2
10-03-2008, 01:35 PM
if speed is what you really looking for and you got 5g... get a bike! lol