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mikeyb
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mikeyb
07-29-2008, 12:54 PM
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mikeyb
07-29-2008, 12:55 PM
Extremists: It’s man against motherboard in this four-way flog of max-horsepower machines.


Behold four machines sitting on the pointy end of a horsepower skyrocket that lifted off sometime in the 1980s and hasn’t hit the chutes yet.

For now, anyone can buy these vehicles by flashing a valid driver’s license and a healthy checkbook. But this may be it. The last act. The apogee right before reentry, when post-peak oil prices and carbon-emissions limits and general economic malaise threaten to make memories out of 500-horsepower cars. Maybe someday you’ll bore grandchildren with tales of Porsche GT2s practically falling out of trees for just $198,875. Is it 1971 all over again? Who knows? Maybe you’ll be telling them from the back seat of their parents’ 700-hp minivan.

These days, the only certainties are that factories still make fast cars, magazines still review them, and the public still buys them. Determined not to shirk our duty, we gathered these sharp darts for some track work and desert road running. They have little in common except being the heaviest ordnance currently sold by their respective brands. We didn’t say our duty was particularly tough.

With the new 638-hp 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 still months off, the 505-hp Corvette Z06 became the old man in our quartet, new in late ’05 as an ’06. Aluminum-frame trusses, a cast magnesium roof, and carbon-fiber floorboards and front fenders help make it a very special Vette, as does the 505-hp, LS7 7.0-liter dry-sump V-8. Chevy fitted $5545 in convenience and Bose-audio options to our Jetstream Blue Metallic example (the stratospheric paint option runs $750).

The American Club Racer (ACR) badge was first pasted onto Dodge Vipers in 1999, and the mission brief hasn’t changed: Put Viper owners on the track. The newest ACR upholds the legacy with an assortment of name-brand racer bits, including KW Suspensions coil-over shocks with jounce, rebound, and ride-height adjustment; StopTech slotted rotors with Brembo calipers; Michelin Pilot Sport Cup pseudo-slicks (size 295/30—in front!); and a carbon-fiber front splitter and rear wing that produce a claimed thousand pounds of downforce at 150 mph. The single option on our car: a red stripe down the driver’s center line, $1650.

Our third instrumented test of Nissan’s freshly unwrapped GT-R starts here. By now you should be able to quote the relative percentages of steel, cast aluminum, and carbon fiber in the GT-R’s body (roughly 80, 15, and 5, respectively), recite the front-axle torque-split spread in the electronic all-wheel-drive system (10–50 percent), and name the brake-caliper paint supplier (we have no idea). The big option is the $2050 Premium pack, including navigation and an 11-speaker Bose audio boombox. This car has it.

Porsche’s long staircase of models currently tops out at the 911 GT2. Its 3.6-liter boxer-six has 50 more horsepower than the 480-hp all-wheel-drive 911 Turbo, but the GT2 uses two fewer wheels to apply its 505 pound-feet of torque to the pavement. Sounds like a formula for carnage-filled YouTube videos, except that the GT2 has fast-acting traction and stability control, plus launch control. We’ve got $6315 in options here, including $1815 black-painted wheels, $1250 in body-color console and dash trim, and $340 in risqué red seatbelts. Every car would go quicker with red seatbelts.

We have four dissimilar cars with a $126,350 price spread. Their collective technology is such that only one, the *Viper, carries a gas-guzzler penalty ($1700). Actually, ranking them proved quite tough, but we do this for God and country.


Vital Statistics

ZO6
0-60:3.8
0-100:8.3
0-150:17.9
1320:11.9@124
70-0:159
Max Lateral:1.03
Lane change:62.88 mph
3180 lbs
F/R:50.3/49.7

GT2
0-60:3.7
0-100:8.1
0-150:18.0
1320:11.8@121
70-0:155
Max Lateral:0.98
Lane change:67.22 mph
3300 lbs
F/R:38.8/61.2

SRT-10 ACR
0-60:3.4
0-100:7.7
0-150:17.5
1320:11.8@126
70-0:149
Max Lateral:1.08
Lane change:71.86 mph
3420 lbs
F/R:49.1/50.9

GT-R
0-60:4.1
0-100:10.2
0-150:26.6
1320:12.6@111
70-0:155
Max Lateral:0.96
Lane change:67.55 mph
3920 lbs
F/R:54.6/45.4

More here:
Chevy Corvette Z06 vs. Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR, Nissan GT-R, Porsche 911 GT2 - Coupes/Comparison Test/Reviews/Car and Driver - Car And Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/coupes/chevy_corvette_z06_vs_dodge_viper_srt10_acr_nissan _gt_r_porsche_911_gt2_comparison_test/(page)/1)

CantCMe
07-29-2008, 12:57 PM
Damn I love that Porsche!!!

TinmanMS6
07-29-2008, 01:33 PM
Yup. GT2, all the way.

SuperStretch18
07-29-2008, 01:36 PM
^^^x3

magnumP5
07-29-2008, 01:45 PM
Porsche GT2 all the way but that Viper is just plain nasty. Just comparing the stats makes the GT-R look kind of subdued.

TinmanMS6
07-29-2008, 01:50 PM
Porsche GT2 all the way but that Viper is just plain nasty. Just comparing the stats makes the GT-R look kind of subdued.

For the record, those are by far the slowest numbers I've seen for the GT-R.

magnumP5
07-29-2008, 01:56 PM
For the record, those are by far the slowest numbers I've seen for the GT-R.
Agreed, they do seem slow and it doesn't help that the GT2 and ACR Viper are within inches of a full-fledged race car.

jred321
07-29-2008, 02:33 PM
that's a choice i'd love to have to make. all 4 are excellent cars

shane02pro5
07-29-2008, 02:47 PM
I'll take that GT-R and put a Haltech on it like the one from the vid the other day 11.1@122!

Kymerik
07-29-2008, 03:21 PM
In order:

1: Porsche GT2
2: Nissan GT-R
3: Corvette Z06
4: Dodge Viper

The dodge just looks silly in this group. The other cars just look more mature and refined even though the Viper is silly fast.

Donas64
07-29-2008, 03:52 PM
1: Nissan GT-R: Accessible abilites, all weather prowess, supercar fast on
the cheap. Looks have grown on me but it's not pretty in traditional sense.

2: Corvette Z06: Best looking of the bunch, awesome V8 thrust, timeless
car that can be lived with as a DD

3: Porsche GT2: Triumph of engineering over common sense, takes skill to
drive quick, but I'd rather have the Z06 or GTR

4: Dodge Viper: The stuff nightmares are made off. I'd be too scared to drive
this monster.

astraelraen
07-29-2008, 03:58 PM
I'm a serious die-hard Porsche fan, I don't care what they build, or if it does x.xx around a racetrack, I will always want a 911.

Corvettes don't really "impress" me, even the Z06 model, though I can respect the numbers they put down. They're like a Mustang, everybody and their brother has one.

Vipers are cool just because of their brute force. Although the original Viper, with no ABS and no driver assists is what I think of in terms of a Viper.

I have no opinion on the GT-R. But it gets punished in the 0-150mph times... I do that everyday on my way to work, clearly the GT-R is not for me.

dmitrik4
07-29-2008, 04:31 PM
if someone else is paying: GT2.
if it's my money: Z06.

although the fact that it apparently takes no skill (or a left foot) to drive the GT-R is a bonus, i suppose...???

Rotary_Powered
07-29-2008, 04:42 PM
My money.... None.... I'd take a GT3 RS
But because it's not on the list I'd take them in the following order
1)GT2
2)3 way tie. ( I love these cars)
I'd honestly take anyone but deep inside I'm a Porsche nut.