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Aaron@JSC
07-24-2008, 01:24 PM
I have been getting a lot of requests for an install guide (and in all fairness I promised I would write one a while ago) for the TXS DP/RP install.

So here you go- I don't have photos of every step so you will have to bare with me. If anyone out there does have photos of individual steps, I will gladly host them and post them up.

Disclaimer: this is a guide I am writing based on how I installed these parts on my own car and should not be taken as official installation instructions at any time. If at any time during an attempt to install these parts you feel unsure or uncomfortable with anything I highly suggest you take the car to a professional.

Tools needed:
1. varying metric sockets (10mm,12mm,14mm most common)
2. varything metric open-end wrenches
3. Channel lock pliers
2. socket wrench
3. Flathead/philips screwdrivers
3. Breaker bars of varying sizes
4. PB blaster, liquid wrench or equivalent
5. jack/jackstands
6. Permatec anti-sieze lubricant or equivalent

1. Jack up the front of the car and safely get it on stands.
2. Remove intercooler cover (2 bolts) and intercooler/bpv assembly (3 intercooler nuts, two philips hose clamps and bpv recirculation hose clamp and manifold hose clamp on BPV). Intercooler/bpv assembly should lift right off of the car.
3. Put tape or sandwitch bags over the open intercooler hoses to prevent any debris/hardware etc from falling in.
4. Take off the heat shielding covering the exhaust manifold, turbo and downpipe-- IIRC these are small 8 or 10mm bolts that may be rusted.
5. Get under the car and locate both 02 sensors that are in the downpipe- one is up near the turbo the other is near the downpipe/catpipe connection. Follow both 02 sensor wires to their plug harness and disconnect them. This is very tricky to do as the plugs are quite hard to reach. After the plugs are off, disconnect all zip ties etc that may hold the wiring to the undercarriage/chassis.
6. Generously spray the top 02 sensor (the one near the turbo) with PB Blaster and go have a beer/smoke/sandwitch, whatever while the blaster does its thing.
7. Using the 02 sensor wrench carefully break loose the 02 sensor from its bung in the downpipe. Depending on your mileage, this may be very easy or very hard, there have been reports of 02 sensors being fully siezed in the downpipe with only a few thousand miles on the car. Once the sensor is loose you want to work the sensor back and forth unscrewing a turn and then screwing it back in, all the while continuing to spray PB blaster on the threads. 'work' the sensor back and forth patiently until you can fully release it from the bung. Once it is free be sure to wipe of any PB blaster that may have gotten near the actual sensor and set the sensor aside in a clean place. When I did this install on my car it had 15,xxx miles on it and it was not siezed, though the threads did get a little messed up on the sensor itself, it was no bad enough that it could not be re-used.
8. Now you can begin to work on the 5 downpipe to turbo nuts. Start off with a generous spraying of BP blaster to each nut. Now, removing these nuts was possibly the trickiest part of this whole install. It requires a coutless combination of extensions, deep set and standard stockets, swivel adapters, and breaker bars to access the nuts you need to remove, especially the ones nearest to the manifold and engine. It is very tight in this area of the car and the largest challenge is getting leverage clearance on the socket wrench in those tight quarters. It is a very painstaking process so take lots of breaks and be patient. Getting to these downpipe nuts is not easy but I know from personal experience it is possible with a decent set of tools and basic shade-tree mechanic know how. Be sure to not put any pressure on the nuts/studs until you have a good grip on the nut- stripping a nut or breaking a stud in this location will ruin your weekend. Keep these 5 nuts in a safe place-- you will be reusing these.
9. Once the downpipe is loose from the turbo, disconnect the two spring bolts that hold the cat pipe to the catback exhaust. You may have to remove the center chassis brace to gain sufficient access. At this point you should also be able to disconnect the downpipe/catpipe connection, pull off the two rubber hangers and remove the cat pipe from the car.
10. At this point there is only a two bolt support bracket holding the downpipe to the car. IIRC, getting to the bolts on this braket was a major pain, but it needs to be done from undernieth the car. After this bracket is free, the downpipe should be free-- but you are only half out of the woods at this point.
11. So now you have a loose downpipe with an 02 sensor hanging out of it on one side and a steel bracket welded to it on the other. You need to somehow get this thing out of the car from below, though it may seem impossible and this point and you are probably thinking of selling the MS3 and settling down with a nice Camry. To remove the downpipe you need to first remove the front factory chassis brace, which I beleive is (4) 17mm bolts and a single 12mm bolt. Once the chassis brace is off, it takes a bit of manuvering, but you should be able to pull the downpipe free with the rear 02 sensor still installed. Be careful not to damage the 02 sensor or the wiring as you are twisting the downpipe it to get it out of the car.
12. Once the downpipe is free, apply PB blaster to the rear 02 sensor and have another beer/smoke/sandwitch. Remove the 02 sensor the same way as the first, going slow and being very careful not to mess up any of the threads.
13. When you have both 02 sensors out of the stock downpipe, apply a thin coating of anti-seize to the threads and reinstall them into the TurboXS downpipe. Be carefull not to get any anti-sieze on the actual sensors, just the threads. If you are planning on doing the spark plug anti-fouler CEL fix, now would be the time to do it-- the anti-fouler(s) would need to be installed on the rear 02 sensor.
14. Once the 02 sensors are secure, I bolted the TurboXS downpipe to the racepipe while it was out of the car using the supplied copper gasket and hardware.
15. You should now be able to slide the whole dp/rp assembly back into the car and rest the downpipe on the turbo studs. There is a factory gasket that was between the stock downpipe and the turbo exhaust housing-- be sure you find this and reuse it. You may want to find something to rest the racepipe on until you bolt it in as to not add too much stress to the turbo studs. The TurboXS pipes should slide in much easier as they are significantly less bulky than the stock pipes.
16. Making sure that the stock turbo gasket is still in position, bolt the downpipe nuts back to the turbo studs and torque them in a star pattern to ensure a leak-free seal. You will notice that the bellmouth downpipe is specially designed to give you perfect access to the turbo studs (thank you TurboXS).
17. Use the 2nd copper gasket and the adapter flange included in the kit along with the stock donut gasket and stock spring bolts to mate the racepipe up with the stock catback exhaust.
18. Plug in both 02 sensor plugs into their respective harnesses and secure all wiring with zip ties to keep them away from potentially hot engine components.
19. Reinstall all frame brace pieces that were removed during the install.
20. Reinstall manifold heashields, intercooler/bpv and intercooler cover in reverse order that they were removed.
21. Reset the ECU, fire if the car and check for any exhaust leaks.
22. Go for a drive and enjoy your much more efficient exhaust system!

NOTE: The TurboXS downpipe will most likely trigger a CEL for a rear catalyst below efficiency if you are not using some sort of CEL fix or engine management.

please post up any questions you might have, I am going to try and upload some photos for this install in the mean time.

phillyb
07-27-2008, 01:59 PM
this is a great write up.

i have a question about the turbo xs rp connecting to the stock dp.
my understanding is that this is where the flange from turbo xs comes in to play, between dp and rp; it connects here and then the rp connects to the catback.
where are gaskets needed?
do i use the stock spring bolts when connecting the rp to the stock cbe?

any help is greatly appreciated

Listers
08-12-2008, 08:01 PM
torque specs for turbo studs? dont want to snap any off

Buffalo_Bill
08-19-2008, 01:42 PM
Ttiwop

Listers
08-19-2008, 03:46 PM
Ttiwop

not really... i used this to familiarize myself with the steps and to make sure i had the right equipment. pretty straight forward

Buffalo_Bill
08-19-2008, 05:22 PM
I guess; I just like pictures I suppose

Aaron@JSC
08-20-2008, 12:02 PM
Ttiwop

I know-- im working on it--

smithsan
09-24-2008, 06:50 PM
Installed the SU motor mount and TWM short shifter and bushings. Huge improvement, other than that its stock. Next mod up, CAI. '07 Mazdaspeed 3 GT.
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EVLTSTR
09-24-2008, 07:16 PM
You forgot 1 step... Remove the heat shield that is under the primary o2 sensor (held in by 3 bolts) after removeal of the sensor.

This is done to access the 5 bolts / studs that hold the dp to the turbo.

Other than that, AWESOME WRITEUP. I wish it was available when I did mine!

migueleitor
09-25-2008, 11:43 AM
important: car MS3.

has anyone had the check light on when replacing downpipe and midpipe?

will it work fine with a mazdaspeed esxhaust?

Thank you.

arkenzo
09-25-2008, 12:40 PM
important: car MS3.

has anyone had the check light on when replacing downpipe and midpipe?

will it work fine with a mazdaspeed esxhaust?

Thank you.

You will get a CEL, unless you do the diode fix. Keep in mind, the TurboXS Downpipe / midpipe already has an extended o2 bung, which acts like a non-fouler.

Aaron@JSC
09-25-2008, 05:20 PM
You forgot 1 step... Remove the heat shield that is under the primary o2 sensor (held in by 3 bolts) after removeal of the sensor.

This is done to access the 5 bolts / studs that hold the dp to the turbo.

Other than that, AWESOME WRITEUP. I wish it was available when I did mine!

Ah-- I knew there was probably something I forgot in there-- there were so many heatshields and I was doing this writeup from memory. Thanks for the addition.

stewnate
09-28-2008, 05:24 PM
the cobb access port will take care of the cel right?

lestat13
09-28-2008, 06:01 PM
the cobb access port will take care of the cel right?

Very good question......

muthu
10-14-2008, 03:19 PM
First you will insert the cd to drive wait for few minutes system will loaded after that following a install options then continue ........................(beer)
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ncspeed21
10-29-2008, 04:42 PM
Good write up!! maybe a noob question but would it be the same with the cp-e downpipe?!>

Aaron@JSC
10-29-2008, 05:44 PM
Good write up!! maybe a noob question but would it be the same with the cp-e downpipe?!>

it would be very similar, yes

migueleitor
10-30-2008, 11:20 AM
You will get a CEL, unless you do the diode fix. Keep in mind, the TurboXS Downpipe / midpipe already has an extended o2 bung, which acts like a non-fouler.

hello, what do you mean with you do the diode fix. ?

You mean if a get the turboxs , i won't have any chck light

thank you.

Aaron@JSC
10-30-2008, 03:08 PM
hello, what do you mean with you do the diode fix. ?

You mean if a get the turboxs , i won't have any chck light

thank you.

No just the opposite-- if you do the TurboXS you will almost definitely get a check engine light.

There are basically 2 ways to get rid of it without using the Cobb AP (the Cobb AP will erase it automatically when installed).

Mechanical Fix: uses spark plug anti-foulers to space the 02 sensor out of the exhaust stream. This has worked for some MS3s and not for others for some reason. Read more here: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123634664&highlight=fouler

Electrical (DIODE) Fix: you splice in a diode from radio shack to the black wire on the 02 sesnsor. This is the method I used. Learn how to do this here: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123716776

ncspeed21
11-12-2008, 03:25 PM
did you ever get anyone with pictures?!

Jdizzle659
11-14-2008, 01:26 AM
Once you install the turboxs downpipe and your engine light comes on will this hurt your performance or just not alow you to pass inspection? Basically if you don't rig up the O2 sensors so that you won't trigger the CEL what are the downfalls?

arkenzo
11-14-2008, 12:48 PM
Once you install the turboxs downpipe and your engine light comes on will this hurt your performance or just not alow you to pass inspection? Basically if you don't rig up the O2 sensors so that you won't trigger the CEL what are the downfalls?

secondary o2 sensor is slightly responsible for sending fuel trims to the ecu, it doesn't play a big roll in adjusting/affecting fuel trims, but it does affect them.

Do the diode fix and enjoy, or get a dashhawk or scangaugeII and reset the cel whenever it comes on...simple

Aaron@JSC
11-14-2008, 02:11 PM
secondary o2 sensor is slightly responsible for sending fuel trims to the ecu, it doesn't play a big roll in adjusting/affecting fuel trims, but it does affect them.

Do the diode fix and enjoy, or get a dashhawk or scangaugeII and reset the cel whenever it comes on...simple

I have the diode fix but my CEL still comes on randomly. Always P0421 Catalyst Inefficiency. I just reset it with my DH and im on my way.

arkenzo
11-14-2008, 03:01 PM
Aaron, I bought the TurboXS Stealthback from JSC several months ago, i installed it on my car but I was unaware that there should have been a copper gasket for the racepipe to mate to the stock catback, I noticed I was missing this peice but installed it anyways. Is there something we can work out so I can get the missing peice? I know it's been a long time since I installed it, I know I should have notified you sooner, but I didn't realize I was missing the copper gasket until I read your turboxs stealthback install guide. I do have the metal flange though...

Jdizzle659
11-14-2008, 05:23 PM
thank you

arkenzo
11-16-2008, 07:13 PM
Aaron, Will I be forced to make a new topic about this problem?

Aaron@JSC
11-17-2008, 10:52 AM
Aaron, Will I be forced to make a new topic about this problem?

PMed you about this

migueleitor
12-03-2008, 04:25 PM
anyone here with corksport downpipe and midpipe?

any check light with them?

i just have decided to install the downpipe and midpipe but i don't know what brand i should buy.

arkenzo
12-03-2008, 06:49 PM
Thank You Aaron!

Aretimus
03-16-2009, 06:29 PM
I am about to install the Turbo XS sbe on my mazdaspeed3. I was looking at the stock Down Pipe and it looks like it has a shroud arround it that a couple heat shields and some ground wires for the o2 sensors are attatched. What happens when installing the new Turbo XS Downpipe, does that shroud go over the new down pipe? If not how do you attatch the heatshields back on, and where do you attatch the ground wires?