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oaklandopen
07-12-2008, 01:30 PM
would any of you have gotten the 4-door instead of the 5-door if they offered the turbo engine in it? my dad has never had a thing for hatchbacks, and always asks me if they had the speed3 option in the 4-door, cuz he would have rather had that.

personally, i like the hatchback better because i don't have to use the key to open the trunk, i can just use the remote to unlock it. this helps when you forget to hit the trunk release inside the car, get out to get something from the trunk, then realize that you left the keys in the ignition. just stupid little hassle.

but i do think the hatch has more of a blindspot than my old 4-door did

UHATEIT
07-12-2008, 03:18 PM
how bout a 2-door!

I would have preferred that they made a coupe 2-door version of the maxdaspeed3, perhaps in the sid eof the R32/GTI, I would dig that! this is my first 4-door car and its pretty big. I personally son't like the body styling of the 4-door you speak of but a coupr in the hatchback would have been very appealing

08cosmic3
07-12-2008, 03:28 PM
I would have perferred the 4 door myself. I'm betting that the car would have been lighter.

Ajburr
07-12-2008, 05:25 PM
I've learned to love the hatch design. It grows on you.

Kain
07-12-2008, 06:09 PM
No. I knew my next car was going to be hatch/wagon since I need the space. The fact that it is turbo is secondary because I considered a regular 3 hatch, as well.

mistermatt
07-12-2008, 06:21 PM
i prefer the hatch

kura808
07-12-2008, 06:22 PM
perhaps u should get this hehe xD

http://www.tripointengineering.com/information.php?osCsid=7822de57e21922ced9174987b73 7b92f&info_id=1

i like speed
07-12-2008, 06:34 PM
The only reason I haven't traded my msp for a ms3 is cuz I don't like hatchbacks. I'd get a ms6 if I could afford it tho.

bjjer
07-12-2008, 06:37 PM
I would have purchased the 4 door, but as someone else said it grew on me.

mo08ms3
07-12-2008, 06:57 PM
I never like hatchbacks until recently when buying my MS3. I probably wouldn't have gotten it if it was the four door. I probably would have gotten the regular 6 instead. (I'd sure be missing the turbo)

Munnugles
07-12-2008, 08:05 PM
iva had a gti in the past and really got used to having a hatch than anything else... but i think i would like it even more if it was a 2 door hatch... but i do have to say the ms3 is definetly one of the few cars that can truley pull off a 4 door hatch

SwampAss
07-12-2008, 10:48 PM
I'm retarded for station wagons. I used to drool over the volvo T5R wagon in yellow with those big silly flat spoked wheels. The hatch is very close to that look...with a little Matrix thrown in.

6262MS3
07-12-2008, 11:10 PM
If the ms3 were a coupe or sedan I wouldn't have bought it. Being a bass guitarist I need lots o' space. Kudos to mazda for making a car that can haul gear as well as haul ass!

stevekt
07-13-2008, 12:43 AM
I had very little interest in small wagons before the MS3 arrived. I wanted an MS6 when they first came out and spent a lot of time on the MS6 boards reading about them. Somehow I wandered onto the 3 boards and ended up buying an MS3. I am very happy with my purchase and often find myself checking out other small wagons like the Matrix, Impreza, and A3. I guess I fall into the "it grew on me" category as well.

dkswim
07-13-2008, 06:05 AM
at first i would have said i would have praered 4 door 2 door even better but the hatch has grown on me.

oaklandopen
07-13-2008, 10:07 AM
someone shopped the ms3 into a 2-door but someone else noticed it looked like an uglier focus, and it did a little....see if i can find it

dkswim
07-13-2008, 11:14 AM
well if you had a 4 door and some extra cash lying around.

http://tripointengineering.com/information.php?info_id=1

kura808
07-13-2008, 01:06 PM
^^^ :P i posted that link on the first page hehe

Stu C
07-13-2008, 08:05 PM
I had a 99 civic hatch, then a prelude, and now a MS3. I wanted the best of both previous worlds - and I got it. :D

gregstinson
07-14-2008, 11:33 AM
if it wasnt for the wagon/4dr design. I would not have decided to buy it.

Now.. i realize I could probably handle 2 doors the majority of the time, but with adjusting the seats for my bike /the dog/friends i still would rather have the 4dr

imac
07-14-2008, 12:09 PM
if i had the option, i'd have definitely gone with the hatch. having 2 doors may look cool, but whenever people have to sit in the back, its a major PITA. that wouldnt be a problem with the 3 coupe, but i honestly think that the coupe is pretty ugly from the back, plus the hatch has a ton of room in it. mazda was also able to pull off the 4 door hatch nicely, unlike the GTI, which i think looks bad in either form, but especially hideous in the 4 door.

i was in the market for a hot hatch to begin with, so the coupe option would have made no difference for me. although, if the coupe was the only option, you might see me rolling around in a cSRT4 or volvo c30 right about now.

kneedragger241
07-14-2008, 12:13 PM
I'm retarded for station wagons. I used to drool over the volvo T5R wagon in yellow with those big silly flat spoked wheels.

I was totally into that wagon too!

I was in the market for a small wagon when I stumbled upon my MS3.
I was shopping for a regular 3 wagon when I saw the ass of my future car sticking out of the row of Mazda 3's.
Bright red, blacked out windows, big wing and a large exhaust tip tipped me off that something was different about this one.

Kain
07-14-2008, 12:31 PM
Someone cross-ref these results with a poll asking who is married and/or has kids. :)

dan1101
07-14-2008, 01:14 PM
I've wanted a hatch ever since the WRX hatch came out. The Dodge Magnum is cool too.

happy and angry
07-14-2008, 01:29 PM
I'm single without kids and will always prefer a hatch. I don't understand the American aversion to hatchbacks in general, they are way (way) more utilitarian. I don't know what I'll buy after this car is dead, frankly. I'm going to be spoiled by this little hot hatch, it's going to make it hard to find a replacement that I'm happy with.

imac
07-14-2008, 01:54 PM
I'm single without kids and will always prefer a hatch. I don't understand the American aversion to hatchbacks in general, they are way (way) more utilitarian. I don't know what I'll buy after this car is dead, frankly. I'm going to be spoiled by this little hot hatch, it's going to make it hard to find a replacement that I'm happy with.

+1 on everything you just said, right down to the single w/o kids. i don't think i'll ever get as good a bargain on a new car again in my life.

kura808
07-15-2008, 01:49 AM
i read somewhere that the hatch design is better for rallying? haha dunno if the ms3 could rally but i think thats the reason y they turned the sti into a hatch. some1 rally their ms3 hehe

oaklandopen
07-15-2008, 06:16 AM
i read somewhere that the hatch design is better for rallying? haha dunno if the ms3 could rally but i think thats the reason y they turned the sti into a hatch. some1 rally their ms3 hehe

there have been a lot of companies going hatch/short station wagon lately. mazda3, calibur, volvo, audi has an s4 in hatch version, subaru.

it must be the downsizing of suvs without losing too much of the room

imac
07-15-2008, 07:57 AM
there have been a lot of companies going hatch/short station wagon lately. mazda3, calibur, volvo, audi has an s4 in hatch version, subaru.

it must be the downsizing of suvs without losing too much of the room

i actually had an old guy ask me the other day what kind of car the ms3 was, and then asked if it was an SUV.

it is kinda like having a mini SUV tho... minus the 4wd, terrible gas mileage, and oh yea, it goes a little faster too (wiggle)

dkswim
07-15-2008, 09:24 AM
thats almost as good as the kid that asked me if my car had a rotory.

Kain
07-15-2008, 09:39 AM
I'm single without kids and will always prefer a hatch. I don't understand the American aversion to hatchbacks in general, they are way (way) more utilitarian. I don't know what I'll buy after this car is dead, frankly. I'm going to be spoiled by this little hot hatch, it's going to make it hard to find a replacement that I'm happy with.

+eleventy bajillion. I know it's mostly bred out of necessity (narrow streets, expensive gas), but I wish we'd get the small, performance hatches on this side of the pond that the Europeans and Japanese enjoy. Especially a Renault Clio V6 Sport... mmm...

Only sheep place any stock in stigmas. Call it a hatch if it makes you feel better, but the Mazda3 5-door is a station wagon. Whenever someone asks what kind of car I drive, that's what I tell them. And if I need to schlep around 7 people, I'd happily buy a minivan and enjoy better gas mileage, more cargo space and a lower center of gravity than image-conscious SUV drivers.

dan1101
07-15-2008, 11:01 AM
i read somewhere that the hatch design is better for rallying? haha dunno if the ms3 could rally but i think thats the reason y they turned the sti into a hatch. some1 rally their ms3 hehe

I think the MS3 would be terrific for rallying if it had AWD. They didn't have to do any engine work on the MS3 rally car that's out there, it already has plenty of power.

imac
07-15-2008, 11:13 AM
And if I need to schlep around 7 people, I'd happily buy a minivan and enjoy better gas mileage, more cargo space and a lower center of gravity than image-conscious SUV drivers.

i never understood why the SUV's dominated the minivans like that. my parents have a chrysler town and country with a v6 that runs in the 3.2 to 3.8 litre displacement range. thing has been a champ, with like 150k miles on it. gets better mileage than most SUV's, has retarded amounts of room for cargo if you take all the back seats out, and we've even been able to tow a small utility trailer around with a yard of item 4 stone in it. theres really not much that van can't do that a midsize v6 SUV can that i can think of.

dan1101
07-15-2008, 11:19 AM
The worst thing is SUVs like the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Ford Explorer that get 17mpg and don't hold any more people or much more cargo than a station wagon or 4-door hatchback.

oaklandopen
07-15-2008, 10:38 PM
don't know how many of you have seen "over the hedge" but that movie has the greatest dialog during this one scene where the raccoon was showing the other animals how humans lived. it played out like this...

"what is that?'
"that....is an SUV. humans ride around in it because they're slowing losing their ability to walk"
"jeez, it's so big. how many humans fit in there?"
"usually..........1"

kura808
07-15-2008, 11:01 PM
^^^ lol..thats awesome haha

john blutarski
07-16-2008, 07:07 AM
cargo space FTW

mysleeper6
07-16-2008, 07:27 AM
would any of you have gotten the 4-door instead of the 5-door if they offered the turbo engine in it? my dad has never had a thing for hatchbacks, and always asks me if they had the speed3 option in the 4-door, cuz he would have rather had that.

personally, i like the hatchback better because i don't have to use the key to open the trunk, i can just use the remote to unlock it. this helps when you forget to hit the trunk release inside the car, get out to get something from the trunk, then realize that you left the keys in the ignition. just stupid little hassle.

but i do think the hatch has more of a blindspot than my old 4-door did

I have an MS6. Four doors and a trunk, remote opens them all.