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dealler_81686
06-26-2008, 04:14 PM
i changed my dp and installed a rp in my 07 ms3. now i get a cel saying too lean at idle. does anyone know how to get rid of this?
AutoXRacer
06-26-2008, 04:29 PM
What kind of intake do you have?
SuperStretch18
06-26-2008, 04:30 PM
Tighten all of your intake connections...
dealler_81686
06-27-2008, 11:47 AM
i have the mazdaspeed cai
clos561
06-27-2008, 12:03 PM
there was a recall for this cell, lean at idle code. dealer flashes ur ecu and if that didnt work they did something else (forgot)
BSTD3
06-27-2008, 12:06 PM
ECU reflash and then if that didn't help, replace fuel pump...
SuperStretch18
06-27-2008, 12:23 PM
Before you go to the dealer with mods, check all of your fittings. Too lean at idle could be a case where you are just pulling in unmetered air. You would be bleeding and running rich in boost, but that wouldn't necessarily trigger a code. Some have had issues with loose connections from the dealer.
Did you use a dashhawk to read the code? If so, have you tried to log A/F ratios?
dealler_81686
06-27-2008, 02:16 PM
well i just checked all the fittings on my intake. didnt find anything really loose and i reset the cel. ill let you know if it comes back
AutoXRacer
06-27-2008, 02:33 PM
Make sure to also check your turbo and intercooler connections.
I found a lot of stock clamps loose...
dealler_81686
06-27-2008, 06:18 PM
well i tightened everything down and i started the engine. the cel came on while i was setting up my ipod. i am getting really pissed off at the damn thing!!!
AutoXRacer
06-27-2008, 06:22 PM
well i tightened everything down and i started the engine. the cel came on while i was setting up my ipod. i am getting really pissed off at the damn thing!!!
It's dealer time!!!(hand)
dealler_81686
06-27-2008, 06:32 PM
what are they going to check? i heard about an ecu re-flash.
ericrapp
06-27-2008, 07:09 PM
Mazda is going to help and I will report. the stock stuff was often loose. but the hot side intercooler piping went soft and distorted. I cooled it down and replaced valve too. I have Mazdaspeed cai.. And I am sure there is more to this in ecu reading and responding.
AutoXRacer
06-27-2008, 07:11 PM
what are they going to check? i heard about an ecu re-flash.
There is a reflash and a fuel pump replacement if your car falls between the affected VIN range.
Here is the info:
SwampAss
06-28-2008, 01:26 PM
My AFRs were a touch lean with the MS CAI @ idle. I changed to an Xcel-intake and through a cell for rich at idle. Once I put some miles on it, I stopped getting those CELs. My AFR is back to 14.7 @ idle but it creeps slowly from 14.0.
With the MS CAI, it seemed to race to 14.7 in a second just off idle.
dread
06-29-2008, 01:43 PM
Your car will adjust the long term fuel trims to prevent the cel it takes at least 20 miles though.
ericrapp
06-29-2008, 02:54 PM
There is a reflash and a fuel pump replacement if your car falls between the affected VIN range.
Here is the info: Yep, that is what he showed me. Tomorrow! oh boy!
dealler_81686
07-09-2008, 06:06 PM
is it a big deal if the dp i installed is a non-cat dp? would that do it? i want to change to a cp-e dp soon. will that make a difference?
AutoXRacer
07-10-2008, 07:16 AM
is it a big deal if the dp i installed is a non-cat dp? would that do it? i want to change to a cp-e dp soon. will that make a difference?
The only difference a catted to non-catted DP will do is not let your cabin smell like raw fuel. Some owners of non-catted DPs after a few months have complained about fuel smell in the cabin... But that would be the only difference...oh, and the people driving behind you that you'd be suffocating.
I personally prefer the catted, much easier to live with and it only costs you 4-5 horsepower.
dealler_81686
07-10-2008, 04:38 PM
i see, thanks for the imput
MS3BOOST
07-10-2008, 10:54 PM
i got my tbe installed and the lean at idle code keeps coming up for me too
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