Is this where I should be, performance-wise?

[Matrix]

Hey everyone:

I was wondering where my car was on the performance ladder these days, and it would appear that this weekend I got my answer.

I'm not going to get into specifics on this forum about how I came to find this out, but apparently my car is dead equal to a Nissan Altima SE 3.5L V6 in 35-100mph accelleration. NOTE: I do not know if he had any mods (stock exhaust) or if he had an auto/manual. But we're looking at a car that has somewhere between 240-250 hp, 246-250 tq.


This encounter resulted in a draw. So does that sound about right for my mods? (See sig.)

I was a little concerned that I wasn't able to pull on him, but at the same time I saw that he wasn't able to pull on me. All feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[Viralphrame]

I'm pretty much talking out of my ass here, but unless you're somehow running higher boost via your wastegate (I didn't see a boost controller in your list) I don't see how your collection of mods could net you anywhere near 240HP. That Altima had to have been an automatic or a TERRIBLE manual driver.

(inout)

[shane02pro5]

The big difference is weight...Altima is like 400lbs. heavier.

[Viralphrame]

The big difference is weight...Altima is like 400lbs. heavier.

That too. I was discussing numbers since the OP mentioned numbers as well. :)

[shane02pro5]

Also consider those numbers are at the crank not the wheels.

[Matrix]

Oh, hey - I am not, by any means, even insinuating that I'm making 240hp. What I meant was that in running neck and neck with the Altima SE 3.5, does that sound like a good performance level for me to be at given my current mods and untuned state?

I'm just not used to thinking of an Altima as a decent performer, but maybe I should rethink that with regards to the VQ-equipped models...

What do you guys think? Did my MSP fare well here, given its current state?

[Jspeed17]

Are you at stock boost level?? If you are, i think you're doing very well. I've driven many of these cars, being a mechanic, and i can tell you, auto trans or not, they have balls!!

[Matrix]

Are you at stock boost level?? If you are, i think you're doing very well. I've driven many of these cars, being a mechanic, and i can tell you, auto trans or not, they have balls!!


I think the ATP wastegate actuator probably increased it to 8-8.5psi.
I have no boost gauge, unfortunately. Im going to fix that this summer, hopefully.

[hollar1211]

remember, your car is silver, the fastest color.

[Matrix]

remember, your car is silver, the fastest color.


True! (thumb)

[zuku26]

remember, your car is silver, the fastest color.

Unless it's next too a SPICY :cool:

I would say that your fared very well. Those Altimas rather powerful. I would agree that it was most likely an auto tho. My boy's got a Maxima with the same motor, but he has that auto/stick. He's able to take me from a stop. Between 2nd-4th, He's mine tho.

[Matrix]

Unless it's next too a SPICY :cool:

I would say that your fared very well. Those Altimas rather powerful. I would agree that it was most likely an auto tho. My boy's got a Maxima with the same motor, but he has that auto/stick. He's able to take me from a stop. Between 2nd-4th, He's mine tho.


Really? What mods do you have? The link in your sig for your cardomain page only leads me to a red x.

[livelyjay]

You're looking at about 190whp with your mods since you don't have an AFC. With an AFC you'd be closer to 200whp because of the leaned out A/F. The Altima will have roughly 200whp if it's a manual, less if it's a slushbox. Your results are about right when you then factor in weight. Once you get the Unichip, manifold, and boost controller put in you'd have him no problem.

[Matrix]

Awesome, thanks for all the feedback everyone!

As soon as I get the S-pipe and turbo manifold installed, I'll get an EBC, wideband, boost gauge, and oil pressure gauge. Then I'll take the car to a shop in Maryland and have the Unichip custom dyno-tuned for 10psi.

I think I'm gonna have a fun summer.

[slo03.5msp]

Not to be the downer but it sounds a little slow to me. I yank on 350z's like it's nobodys business and I believe they came stock with more hp than the altima.

[SlowmazdaBJ]

Not to be the downer but it sounds a little slow to me. I yank on 350z's like it's nobodys business and I believe they came stock with more hp than the altima.

x2 i pull on 350z with i/e and plenum, i hate to say it too but altimas arent that quick

[Matrix]

Hmmmm..interesting. For those of you who kill 350Z's, what are your mods?

[MSP2k3]

+1 I am curious also


Hmmmm..interesting. For those of you who kill 350Z's, what are your mods?

[JDM Sam]

10 psi, a well designed fmic, injen intake, vibrant exhaust, unichip retuned, motor mounts.

That is all you really need given the rest of the car is good.

[zuku26]

I'm stock with a SRI

[slo03.5msp]

I first started pulling on them when it was just my fmic and exhaust. I think my blown wga helped with that. I was spiking 19lbs holding 9. Now I just make them look silly.

[Matrix]

Unless it's next too a SPICY :cool:

I would say that your fared very well. Those Altimas rather powerful. I would agree that it was most likely an auto tho. My boy's got a Maxima with the same motor, but he has that auto/stick. He's able to take me from a stop. Between 2nd-4th, He's mine tho.


I'm stock with a SRI


What the...? (boom07)

Are you telling me that with ONLY a SRI, your MSP can own the 260+hp Nissan Maxima V6? (scratch)

[shane02pro5]

You can't just assume based on HP. Weight is a major factor the later models weight is over 3500lbs compared to the MSP at around 2800lbs.

[Matrix]

You can't just assume based on HP. Weight is a major factor the later models weight is over 3500lbs compared to the MSP at around 2800lbs.

Yes, I understand all of the factors involved (weight, power curve, gearing, etc.). But I don't understand how he can beat a car that posts 14.7sec 1/4 mile times and his only mod is just a SRI.

[slo03.5msp]

Weight is a major factor. The z I play with all the time is my buddy's. It's got nismo exhaust and a pop charger and I embarass him. Usally about 5 cars through 2 and then it gets worse from there.

[2.0t03speed]

i beat 350's with my fmic,apexr1 exhaust,ss afc and 10 psi

[JDM Sam]

Run the 6 speed G37's. Those are better races.
I about ready to go C6 hunting and basically anything that traps between 110 and 119 mph in the 1/4. :)

[2.0t03speed]

Run the 6 speed G37's. Those are better races.
I'm bout to go C6 hunting and basically anything that traps between 110 and 119 mph in the 1/4. :)

lol ill be doing that after the cars back

[JDM Sam]

Which turbo you get again? and what EMS?

[mgerst1]

Awesome, thanks for all the feedback everyone!

As soon as I get the S-pipe and turbo manifold installed, I'll get an EBC, wideband, boost gauge, and oil pressure gauge. Then I'll take the car to a shop in Maryland and have the Unichip custom dyno-tuned for 10psi.

I think I'm gonna have a fun summer.

Why MD? there are no dyno's in VA? not to sound like we dont want you here or nothin, just curious

[2.0t03speed]

Which turbo you get again? and what EMS?


focus's old gt28rs with the machined compressor housing and a t04e wheel. As far as ems im using the mpi

[Matrix]

Why MD? there are no dyno's in VA? not to sound like we dont want you here or nothin, just curious


I believe the closest (to me) authorized Unichip tuner with a dyno is Altered Atmosphere in Maryland. I could be wrong about them being the closest, but they do have a good reputation from what I've heard.

[Matrix]

Weight is a major factor. The z I play with all the time is my buddy's. It's got nismo exhaust and a pop charger and I embarass him. Usally about 5 cars through 2 and then it gets worse from there.

What are your mods? How much boost are you running?

[nvmsp]

Unless it's next too a SPICY :cool:

I would say that your fared very well. Those Altimas rather powerful. I would agree that it was most likely an auto tho. My boy's got a Maxima with the same motor, but he has that auto/stick. He's able to take me from a stop. Between 2nd-4th, He's mine tho.

So you only have a SRI....

I find it very unlikely that you beat a maxima. I only say this because I had a 3.5L Altima 2005, and that shit was a beast, even in auto. I never shifted on anyone I raced with that. But the altima was always faster than the maxima since they started making the newer models.

I raced a newer porsche carerra 4s with one and from 3mph-70mph I was only back max 4 cars. Beginning we were even almost he was poking out a little of course.
No way a MSP with only a sri is doing that ever. Atleast to the altima which is rated at less power than the maxima.

[HighwayUFO]

Oh, hey - I am not, by any means, even insinuating that I'm making 240hp. What I meant was that in running neck and neck with the Altima SE 3.5, does that sound like a good performance level for me to be at given my current mods and untuned state?

I'm just not used to thinking of an Altima as a decent performer, but maybe I should rethink that with regards to the VQ-equipped models...

What do you guys think? Did my MSP fare well here, given its current state?

Untuned being the operative word here. Get a tune and you shall see a beast like no other. I am untuned, and have no problem bending a lightly modded SRT-4 over my knee.

[Matrix]

Untuned being the operative word here. Get a tune and you shall see a beast like no other. I am untuned, and have no problem bending a lightly modded SRT-4 over my knee.


Nice! (thumb)
Now you've got me excited about getting this car tuned.

BTW, what kind of rims are those on your MSP?

[nvmsp]

Yea I've taken down a 05 srt4 before too with the MSP but with the stock turbo spiking 8psi and all other mods except spipe and manifold were stock, from a roll 2nd gear. He was pissed and wanted to race again out the hole I said no seeing as we just went 100mph. I barely beat him by 3/4ths of a car though but winning is winning I let off at 4th gear, I always do.

Gotta mention the Altima destroyed a WRX too. Bus lengths it wasnt close at all started from out the hole too, altima had 250hp in the 2005 model.

Shame I never got to race a SRT with the Altima.

But to the person who made this thread, yes your car is doing good if your keeping up with or neck and neck with a 3.5 altima. Now, the new new altimas is a different story. What do they got 270hp, them shits move period, stock just like the older ones.

[mgerst1]

Nice! (thumb)
Now you've got me excited about getting this car tuned.

BTW, what kind of rims are those on your MSP?

+1

[HighwayUFO]

$75 for all 4 with perfect rubber(at the time) Enkei 10 spoke wheels(dunno model #). The ex GF's parents liked me.