here is some info on 2009 mazda 6 price and packages

[xboxlivemonkey]

here is the link , i hope you guys can take the survey but it sucks that we cant add comments ,agian mazda , dont get pissed , im actually doing you a favor : D , any one else get this email ?

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/preConfigEntry.action?username=sabastian33@hotmail .com&password=0017437560&campId=4178


i have price , packages and yes the v6 only comes in auto
im sure this is still not offcial but man i expected some more out of mazda
there v6 could have done more

here are pics , i got an email from mazda asking me to fill a survey for them , being a loyal enthusiast i did it

i hope mazda won't GET pissed but who knows

http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e294/xboxlivemonkey/


here are some specs

MAZDA6 s Grand Touring

* 272-hp 3.7L DOHC 24-valve V6 cylinder
* Mileage, City/Hwy (mpg) 17/25 AT

s Touring model features plus:

* Xenon auto on/off headlights & LED rear combination lights

* Rain sensing windshield wipers

* Auto-dimming, heated outside mirrors w/ ground illumination

* Leather-trimmed seats with heated front seats

* Driver's seat memory with outside mirror adjust function (2 settings)

* Passenger power seat

* Auto dimming inside mirror w/ Homelink® system

* Dual zone automatic climate control

* Bluetooth® hands-free phone and audio

* Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM) System
MSRP: $29,050

MAZDA6 i Grand Touring

* 170-hp 2.5L DOHC 16-valve inline 4-cylinder with VVT
* Mileage, City/Hwy (mpg) 21/29 MT

i Touring model features plus:

* Xenon auto on/off headlights & LED rear combination lights

* Rain-sensing windshield wipers

* Auto-dimming, heated outside mirrors w/ ground illumination

* Leather-trimmed seats with heated front seats

* Driver's seat memory with outside mirror adjust function (2 settings)

* Passenger power seat

* Auto dimming inside mirror w/ Homelink® system

* Dual zone automatic climate control

* Bluetooth® hands-free phone and audio

* Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM) System

price is 25,750

MAZDA6 i SV

* 170-hp 2.5L DOHC 16-valve inline 4-cylinder with VVT
* Mileage, City/Hwy (mpg) 21/29 MT

Vehicle features

* Independent front & rear suspension w/ stabilizer bars

* Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD)

* Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) and Traction Control System (TCS)

* 16" steel wheel w/ 7-spoke wheel cover

* Halogen headlights with automatic headlight shutoff

* Power remote door mirrors, door locks, and windows

* Air conditioning with pollen filter

* AM/FM/CD MP3 compatible stereo w/ 6-speakers & SIRIUS Satellite Radio-compatible audio system

* 60/40 split fold-down rear seats, floor and cargo mats

* Center instrument panel display (A/C, audio, clock, outside temp.)

* Power door locks, windows, door mirrors and remote keyless entry

* Tilt & telescopic steering wheel w/ cruise and audio controls

* Advanced front air bags, side air bags, side air curtains and side impact door beams

* Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)

MSRP: $19,750*


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MAZDA6 s Grand Touring

Destination Fee
$28,400

$650

272-hp 3.7L DOHC 24-valve V6

Standard

Front-Wheel Drive

6-Spd Auto
Standard

Standard
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No packages or options selected.
Total MSRP:
$29,050*

[tunersteve]

Pretty interesting. Mileage numbers aren't all that great for the 2.5 or 3.7, but we'll see. I see they've got the BSMS on this, just like I thought they would. LED taillights are a nice touch too.

[Koenig]

dude wtf?

the v6 is 272 hp, and probably around 270lbs of torque..... now this thing is gonna be just as fast as a speed6 cause it's most likely going to weigh less.

Koenig's speed6 am cry :'(

[tunersteve]

dude wtf?

the v6 is 272 hp, and probably around 270lbs of torque..... now this thing is gonna be just as fast as a speed6 cause it's most likely going to weigh less.

Koenig's speed6 am cry :'(

No, now you just upgrade yours! I'm not shedding a tear until I drive one, or at least ride in one (soon hopefully)

[Koenig]

No, now you just upgrade yours! I'm not shedding a tear until I drive one, or at least ride in one (soon hopefully)


Granted I know it won't have any AWD greatness, I was thinking in terms of on the highway... the acceleration will be the same, or quicker? What's the specs on the curb weight for the 3.7L?

[IMAX]

Might get me back in the Mazda foal. But I won't be going back to Rick Case Mazda here in Atlanta. Almost lost my motor in my former Protege5 because they didn't see what the now defunct Stone Mountain Mazda found quickly... After it was flatbedded in...

[EC99SS]

The V6 only comes in Auto? Man that stinks :( :(

[Koenig]

The V6 only comes in Auto? Man that stinks :( :(

I predict that will dwindle their sales, "unexpectedly" to the marketing team, wondering why it's not selling so well, I wouldn't be surprised after maybe 6 months of launch they pull out a manual for the v6, if they bother to listen to the consumer demand.

[xboxlivemonkey]

I predict that will dwindle their sales, "unexpectedly" to the marketing team, wondering why it's not selling so well, I wouldn't be surprised after maybe 6 months of launch they pull out a manual for the v6, if they bother to listen to the consumer demand.

petition any one ?

lol

[speed1585]

I agree. by them not putting in a manual says to me atleast that the 6 isnt designed for the driver much anymore. I have never owned a auto myself and dont ever plan on it. I will not buy a new 6 v6 if i can only get auto

[wannabe]

I predict that will dwindle their sales, "unexpectedly" to the marketing team, wondering why it's not selling so well, I wouldn't be surprised after maybe 6 months of launch they pull out a manual for the v6, if they bother to listen to the consumer demand.


i disagree. the average american wants more power and less hassle to get it. i think they will be all over this. they may lose a couple sales because of it, but not enough to lose sleep over.

now, if they offer a speed version without manual, thats not cool.

[wannabe]

for comparison sake:

2008 VW Passat VR6 - only auto
2008 Honda Accord V6 (2 options) - only auto
2008 Toyota Camry XLE V6 - only auto

[Mazda3]

i disagree. the average american wants more power and less hassle to get it. i think they will be all over this. they may lose a couple sales because of it, but not enough to lose sleep over.

now, if they offer a speed version without manual, thats not cool.

I agree with wannabe, the 15-20 people that are complaining on the 6 Internet sites won't impact the sales of this vehicle at all. It's a family sedan, just about everyone wants the automatic. My wife wouldn't let me buy a standard. It doesn't make sense for us to have a $40k CDN car in the garage that only one of us can drive. My first choice in car last time around was the Speed 6, but I had to go with the CX-7 because of the tranny.

[Mazda3]

Just wanted to add to my last post. I do feel Mazda will offer some sort of manual transmission performance model in this vehicle for 2010. Whether its the Mazdaspeed or some sort of limited edition V6 model, I think they will address the small % that want the manual. So, if you guys can hold tight for a year I think you'll get what you want. I just don't think they need to mass produce the V6 manual, its a very small % that will actually buy one.

[xboxlivemonkey]

you guys have a good point

[tunersteve]

Just wanted to add to my last post. I do feel Mazda will offer some sort of manual transmission performance model in this vehicle for 2010. Whether its the Mazdaspeed or some sort of limited edition V6 model, I think they will address the small % that want the manual. So, if you guys can hold tight for a year I think you'll get what you want. I just don't think they need to mass produce the V6 manual, its a very small % that will actually buy one.

The V6 manual wasn't a big seller in the first gen 6, so its understandable to cut costs by not offering it on the 2nd gen. It's such a small % that want it, and with SMG/DSG gearboxes on the rise, manuals are slowly going the way of the dodo bird. There was an article in my last issue of Ward's Autoworld that talked about that in detail.

If we do see a new MS6, I'm pretty sure it'll be a 6 speed manual. Maybe we'll get lucky and see some paddle shifters as well as an option, making a new MS6 more appealing than the first one was.

[Mazda3]

The V6 manual wasn't a big seller in the first gen 6, so its understandable to cut costs by not offering it on the 2nd gen. It's such a small % that want it, and with SMG/DSG gearboxes on the rise, manuals are slowly going the way of the dodo bird. There was an article in my last issue of Ward's Autoworld that talked about that in detail.

If we do see a new MS6, I'm pretty sure it'll be a 6 speed manual. Maybe we'll get lucky and see some paddle shifters as well as an option, making a new MS6 more appealing than the first one was.

If they make a 3.7L DISI 350+ HP Mazdaspeed with an auto I will buy one. An auto would have taken too much performance out of the current Speed 6, but with 350-400 ft of torque it won't matter. My lease is up in fall of 2010, I'm anxiously waiting to see if 2010 Mazda 6 will have AWD or Speed versio with auto. Also watching for Mazdaspeed CX-7 and the 2010 redesign of the CX-7. Most likely one of those options will be my next vehicle.

[xboxlivemonkey]

If they make a 3.7L DISI 350+ HP Mazdaspeed with an auto I will buy one. An auto would have taken too much performance out of the current Speed 6, but with 350-400 ft of torque it won't matter. My lease is up in fall of 2010, I'm anxiously waiting to see if 2010 Mazda 6 will have AWD or Speed versio with auto. Also watching for Mazdaspeed CX-7 and the 2010 redesign of the CX-7. Most likely one of those options will be my next vehicle.

a speed cx7 ?wtf , might as well drift in it ! (inout)

[Koenig]

I didn't even know there were plans to make a mazdaspeed cx-7 ?

Might only be an overseas type of deal though.... like the mazdaspeed mp5.... only available in japan.

[Koenig]

I agree with wannabe, the 15-20 people that are complaining on the 6 Internet sites won't impact the sales of this vehicle at all. It's a family sedan, just about everyone wants the automatic. My wife wouldn't let me buy a standard. It doesn't make sense for us to have a $40k CDN car in the garage that only one of us can drive. My first choice in car last time around was the Speed 6, but I had to go with the CX-7 because of the tranny.


Dude there are more people than you think who would prefer manual over auto.... many people these days don't know HOW to drive a manual, which gives cause to the choice of an auto. My aunt is 44 yrs old, doesn't know how to drive manual to save her life. My GF would pick manual over auto, or at least so she says... she wants me to teach her, but the speed6 is a touchy car and I don't want her to learn on that cause it's a bit much for a beginner, I think. So I'd rather teach her on the e30 I'm picking up.

Check out on this forum and over on the mazda6 club, see how many people's cars are manual compared to autos.... you'll be surprised.

[speed1585]

I think that 90% of the avergae demographic of those that will end up buying the new 6 with the v6 or 4 banger for that matter will most likely desire a 5/6 speed auto with the trendy "sports mode" and I am fine with that. My point of it, is that Mazdas MO is zoom zoom, and all about that its a drivers car. with that being said, a 6 speed manual should be an option. It might be a small % of enthuiast that want the manual but its still an important % IMO

[Koenig]

I think that 90% of the avergae demographic of those that will end up buying the new 6 with the v6 or 4 banger for that matter will most likely desire a 5/6 speed auto with the trendy "sports mode" and I am fine with that. My point of it, is that Mazdas MO is zoom zoom, and all about that its a drivers car. with that being said, a 6 speed manual should be an option. It might be a small % of enthuiast that want the manual but its still an important % IMO


Indeed.... yes these days there are people that want autos... I would say I'd want an auto in my car if I lived in a horribly congested area like new york city or LA, with all the crappy bumper to bumper traffic, but where I live it's not all that bad, so I actually do prefer manual over auto.

I will never buy another automatic in a "performance" car..... the only Automatics that interest me these days are pickup trucks.... for towing and hauling (thumb)

I understand there are those who want an auto.... but when you offer a 3.7L v6 with 272 naturally aspirated horsepower.... I definitely want a manual....

[ehc0720]

The Honda Accord V6 is available with a 6 spd manual.

[Mazda3]

I didn't even know there were plans to make a mazdaspeed cx-7 ?

Might only be an overseas type of deal though.... like the mazdaspeed mp5.... only available in japan.

The Speed CX-7 isn't for sure coming, but there are some prototypes. I was merely stating that I was watching for it and if it comes I will give it some serious consideration.

[Mazda3]

Dude there are more people than you think who would prefer manual over auto.... many people these days don't know HOW to drive a manual, which gives cause to the choice of an auto. My aunt is 44 yrs old, doesn't know how to drive manual to save her life. My GF would pick manual over auto, or at least so she says... she wants me to teach her, but the speed6 is a touchy car and I don't want her to learn on that cause it's a bit much for a beginner, I think. So I'd rather teach her on the e30 I'm picking up.

Check out on this forum and over on the mazda6 club, see how many people's cars are manual compared to autos.... you'll be surprised.

I've been to the other forum and I think I have a pretty good idea of what % would actually buy a manual. You have to understand that most of the members of these forums are auto enthusiast's so the % of manual buyers is not even close to the real overall number.

I would love a V6 manual myself, I stated if my situation was different I would be driving a Speed 6 instead of the CX-7. I just don't feel the lack of a manual will effect the sales as much as some of you think.

[wannabe]

The Honda Accord V6 is available with a 6 spd manual.

nope sorry. straight from hondacars.com

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z257/jdolluc/Misc/accord.jpg

[wannabe]

I've been to the other forum and I think I have a pretty good idea of what % would actually buy a manual. You have to understand that most of the members of these forums are auto enthusiast's so the % of manual buyers is not even close to the real overall number.

I would love a V6 manual myself, I stated if my situation was different I would be driving a Speed 6 instead of the CX-7. I just don't feel the lack of a manual will effect the sales as much as some of you think.

(werd)
not every mazda owner is on these boards, and hell, how many are around that don't even post??? it only represents a handful of sales.

[nate0123]

yea, you basically need to go to Nissan now if you want a reasonably priced v6 manual sedan

[PolarBear]

I was expecting a little bit more power and mileage from the new 2.5L engine. I'll wait for a hatchback if it ever happens.

[Killer]

nope sorry. straight from hondacars.com

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z257/jdolluc/Misc/accord.jpg

Wannabe, check the Accord Coupe...you can get the V6 with a 6 speed.


The Accord is available in sedan and coupe body styles with 2.4-liter 4-cylinder and 3.5-liter V-6 engine choices. Available transmissions include a 5-speed manual (standard with all 4-cylinder engines), a 5-speed automatic (standard on sedan V-6 models, available with all 4-cylinder engines and V-6-powered Accord Coupes,) and a 6-speed manual transmission (exclusive to the Accord Coupe EX-L V-6 6MT).

[nate0123]

not everyone likes 4 seat coupes - if I'm going to have back seats, I want back doors

[tunersteve]

I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to adopt Honda's strategy and pair the 6 speed manual with the Grand Touring trim package. That way they'll make their money in the gadgets, not the tranny.

[wannabe]

Wannabe, check the Accord Coupe...you can get the V6 with a 6 speed.

i was reffering to the direct competiton of the 6. since the coupe is, well, a coupe, it doesn't directly compete.

[Killer]

my bad sorry dude.

[Mazda3]

This review has me more than a little excited!!!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0808_2009_mazda6_drive/index.html

[tunersteve]

Motor Trend, Popular Mechanics, and Edmunds Inside Line have all reviewed it and said nothing but good things about the car. Good news indeed.

[Koenig]

Screw all that, where's the speed6?! (boom03) LOL ! Yeah I'm a dreamer (thumb)

[wongpres]

US-spec '09 Mazda6 specifications, features, and option packages from MazdaUSA:
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/downloadBrochure.action?url=/pdf/specs_features/veh_specs_MZ6_09.pdf

Continuing from tunersteve's post, below are the links to Edmunds and C&D first drive reviews:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=126392
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/family_four_doors/2009_mazda_6_first_drive_review

[Koenig]

US-spec '09 Mazda6 specifications, features, and option packages from MazdaUSA:
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/downloadBrochure.action?url=/pdf/specs_features/veh_specs_MZ6_09.pdf

Continuing from tunersteve's post, below are the links to Edmunds and C&D first drive reviews:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=126392
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/family_four_doors/2009_mazda_6_first_drive_review

That's interesting, even with 272hp, and somewhat less torque, the v6 models are still a good second slower in the 1/4 than a speed6... that worries me though cause I'm sure a simple intake and exhaust and a chip will fix that :(

[Mazda3]

That's interesting, even with 272hp, and somewhat less torque, the v6 models are still a good second slower in the 1/4 than a speed6... that worries me though cause I'm sure a simple intake and exhaust and a chip will fix that :(

They haven't actually tested any yet, those times are all guesstimates. I would expect it to be about a 1/2 sec slower than the Speed 6, due to automatic and no AWD to launch with. From a 60 MPH roll things might be more interesting.

[tunersteve]

I spoke with my source at C&D, they drove these at a press event last month, and yesterday (5/23) they embargo broke on details. That's why it was the headline of every major auto news site.

[Koenig]

They haven't actually tested any yet, those times are all guesstimates. I would expect it to be about a 1/2 sec slower than the Speed 6, due to automatic and no AWD to launch with. From a 60 MPH roll things might be more interesting.

1/2 a second slower? Nah... now with being FWD and having 260+ lbs of torque... too much tire spin... a full second sounds about right.

but yeah from a roll.... it may be more interesting, I wouldn't be able to make any guesses until I find out how much the new v6 mazda6 weighs.

[tunersteve]

1/2 a second slower? Nah... now with being FWD and having 260+ lbs of torque... too much tire spin... a full second sounds about right.

but yeah from a roll.... it may be more interesting, I wouldn't be able to make any guesses until I find out how much the new v6 mazda6 weighs.

One of the reviews posted it...something like ~3,526 as tested I think.

EDIT - From the Inside Line Review:

Super-sizing the Mazda 6 means more weight, of course. In this case, the Mazda 6 with the four-cylinder engine packs an extra 141 pounds, while the V6 model adds 169 pounds. That adds up to 3,547 pounds with the V6 in place — about average for the class.

[Koenig]

One of the reviews posted it...something like ~3,526 as tested I think.

EDIT - From the Inside Line Review:

Super-sizing the Mazda 6 means more weight, of course. In this case, the Mazda 6 with the four-cylinder engine packs an extra 141 pounds, while the V6 model adds 169 pounds. That adds up to 3,547 pounds with the V6 in place — about average for the class.

Well, it's lighter than the speed6, that's for sure, we're like 4k lbs (3,700 something, almost 2 tons, wtf?)

Should be a slow crawl away from the speed from a roll. (ugh)

[xboxlivemonkey]

Well, it's lighter than the speed6, that's for sure, we're like 4k lbs (3,700 something, almost 2 tons, wtf?)

Should be a slow crawl away from the speed from a roll. (ugh)

how is the v6 lighter then the 4 cly. in the speed 6

(gtfo)

[Mazda3]

1/2 a second slower? Nah... now with being FWD and having 260+ lbs of torque... too much tire spin... a full second sounds about right.

but yeah from a roll.... it may be more interesting, I wouldn't be able to make any guesses until I find out how much the new v6 mazda6 weighs.

A Speed with a good driver runs about 13.8 at the track? I'm guessing the 2009 V6 will run about 14.5, so 3/4 sec I guess. But I bet the MPH will be very close. Both great cars, just aimed at different people. If the 350+ HP 2nd Gen Speed comes we'll both be driving one of those anyway. :)

[Koenig]

A Speed with a good driver runs about 13.8 at the track? I'm guessing the 2009 V6 will run about 14.5, so 3/4 sec I guess. But I bet the MPH will be very close. Both great cars, just aimed at different people. If the 350+ HP 2nd Gen Speed comes we'll both be driving one of those anyway. :)

Well I was just thinking in terms of the car, but after finding out the weight of the vehicle, and being less weight than the speed6 (like 500 or so lbs) I believe your right, it should be quick as or quicker than a stock rx-8. and from a roll, that's definitely another story.

oh and......My sentiments exactly!!!! I'm seriously praying and holding out on a TT v6 speed6, not that crappy 280+hp 2.5L they wanna produce.(boom07)

[PolarBear]

US-spec '09 Mazda6 specifications, features, and option packages from MazdaUSA:
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/downloadBrochure.action?url=/pdf/specs_features/veh_specs_MZ6_09.pdf

Continuing from tunersteve's post, below are the links to Edmunds and C&D first drive reviews:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=126392
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/family_four_doors/2009_mazda_6_first_drive_review


Thanks. Any words about canadian packages?

Another review:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4265019.html

From Edmunds:
We drive a four-cylinder car equipped with the six-speed manual and it's just as enjoyable. The clutch take-up is easy to modulate and the shift lever notches from gate to gate cleanly. Then again, with poorer EPA mileage numbers than the automatic, the case for buying the manual transmission is pretty weak.

[tunersteve]

how is the v6 lighter then the 4 cly. in the speed 6

The AWD system and extra bracing would account for the extra weight. I'm not sure of the brake size, but you might have some added weight there as well.

[xboxlivemonkey]

The AWD system and extra bracing would account for the extra weight. I'm not sure of the brake size, but you might have some added weight there as well.

good point !

(humpleg)

[Koenig]

good point !

(humpleg)


AWD cars are always heavier, you have the extra weight with both axles being used to drive the wheels, plus the driveshaft, etc. All the "extra" shit that makes a car from FWD to AWD.

Case in point, your brother's 335i is probably like half a second to 1 second quicker than the 335ix (which is the AWD one).