blew tranny....

[Alejo_NIN]

i've always heard the horror stories of blowing a tranny...but mang...is the worst

after going to the track yesterday the tranny gave out

i was amazed it didn't leave me stranded on the road being that the track is a good 2hr drive. it blew 20 mins from my house at my friend's house.
unbelieveable how quickly everything went wrong

first 3rd, then 4th, then 2nd, then 5th and last 1st then reverse...

what a day!

did a 14.7 pass tho...not proud but happy that i'm not on 15's anymore

[TurbomanProtege]

damn man when I blew mine all of them went out at the same time. how much HP you think you have?

[ForceFed]

Not too much running a 14.7.

That sucks though....how in the hell did you destroy all of the gears other than keep driving it after it broke?

If so...than shame on you..you cost yourself a whole lot more money by doing that vs. getting a tow on the initial break.

[mspHtown]

Not too much running a 14.7.

That sucks though....how in the hell did you destroy all of the gears other than keep driving it after it broke?

If so...than shame on you..you cost yourself a whole lot more money by doing that vs. getting a tow on the initial break.



I was thinking the same thing. If something is wrong, you shut the car down immediately.

[Alejo_NIN]

the car did not show any problems after 2hr drive from west palm beach....i didn't know it was broken until it broke...
anyways, the transmission has been replaced and is all good now

:)

it was only 80 bucks to fix too

[dannyboy17]

WTF, $80 fix?, where, when, how?
dude where the hell do u get parts so quick and cheap?

[Alejo_NIN]

i got connections...

haha

OPEN DIFFERENTIAL FTW!

[SeR_Cyclops]

dude.... so you dont have a LSD any more?

one wheel peel FTL!

[Alejo_NIN]

this is the second time without a LSD

ohh well

[SeR_Cyclops]

should have just welded your broken one... that would have been better than a normal one.

[lestat13]

Whoa, REALLY curious now, what actually broke that you replaced?

[Protege5 Driver]

i have a non lsd dif and other parts if interested

[dannyboy17]

i got connections...

haha

OPEN DIFFERENTIAL FTW!

damn thats crazy fast tho, I wish when my tranny goes bad I only have half day of downtime like u lol.
Did you swap it urself? holy crap, as soon as my tranny goes bad ure the first person Im calling lolz

[avarela86]

Yeah he swapped it himself. You can go to the junkyards in Miami and pcik them up cheap from different car. It's pretty common I thought? I've done a couple times too. $80 and new tranny fluid and your all set. Cheaper than shelling out the 3k Mazda wants for a full tranny and the 5k they want for the MazdaSpeed tranny.

[dstmsp03]

which tranny do ya look for there? and cant the LSD be swapped into some of the junkyard trannies?

[dannyboy17]

Yeah he swapped it himself. You can go to the junkyards in Miami and pcik them up cheap from different car. It's pretty common I thought? I've done a couple times too. $80 and new tranny fluid and your all set. Cheaper than shelling out the 3k Mazda wants for a full tranny and the 5k they want for the MazdaSpeed tranny.

thats why warranty > all...even tho it takes a LOT longer to get the car back up and running tho.


btw, howd u do at moroso? I was too far back in the line and coulndt see any of ur runs :(

[avarela86]

thats why warranty > all...even tho it takes a LOT longer to get the car back up and running tho.
btw, howd u do at moroso? I was too far back in the line and coulndt see any of ur runs :(

Warranty is not always the best thing IMO. So I can't agree with you on that one. Unless it's a car that you bought brand new from the dealer then I would use warranty when possible but at the same time I don't rely on it as a safety thing.
I ran a 13.85 as my last pass. The rest where in the 14s but I did run a 15.9 my first run. :-)


which tranny do ya look for there? and cant the LSD be swapped into some of the junkyard trannies?

Anything that is matted to the FS-DE engine. The 1.8 or the 2.0 either work. Ford Probes the last gen, MX-6s and 626s that are manual. I get most of mine from Probe. The one in there now is MX-6 tranny. And yes you can do it but it would mean pulling apart the tranny internally and then putting it back together. You need a gun to get the first two big bolts off though. So I haven't bothered.

[dstmsp03]

thats not a problem there.. have more than enough tools around to take a tranny apart.. lol..

[SeR_Cyclops]

yeah but those tools wont help you put it back together lol!! j/k

[dstmsp03]

lol..
thats what my cousin is for.. hahaha..

[neox.286]

Warranty is not always the best thing IMO. So I can't agree with you on that one. Unless it's a car that you bought brand new from the dealer then I would use warranty when possible but at the same time I don't rely on it as a safety thing.
I ran a 13.85 as my last pass. The rest where in the 14s but I did run a 15.9 my first run. :-)



Anything that is matted to the FS-DE engine. The 1.8 or the 2.0 either work. Ford Probes the last gen, MX-6s and 626s that are manual. I get most of mine from Probe. The one in there now is MX-6 tranny. And yes you can do it but it would mean pulling apart the tranny internally and then putting it back together. You need a gun to get the first two big bolts off though. So I haven't bothered.

geez, you sound like youve had to do this numerous times =X

how many times have you replaced yours now?

[avarela86]

geez, you sound like youve had to do this numerous times =X

how many times have you replaced yours now?

four so far. But I think the king of breakin trannies is that guy in canada...crap I forgot his SN.

[ItsSlow]

yeah but those tools wont help you put it back together lol!! j/k

its actually pretty easy to put it back together.. You can always go to mazda and get a layout sheet on what order it goes back together in..

[avarela86]

its actually pretty easy to put it back together.. You can always go to mazda and get a layout sheet on what order it goes back together in..

yeah but to get the first two big bolts off you are gonna need a impact gun.

[neox.286]

or a REALLY long cheater bar haha

at least thats how I got the crankshaft pulley bolt off....that sucker was ON there

[Protege5 Driver]

yeah but to get the first two big bolts off you are gonna need a impact gun.

i usedtwo socket wrenches and that ssucker came off easy

[Alejo_NIN]

i blew my tranny but i dind't blow the LSD
actually if you read the first post i went thru gears and was still able to drive the car to my friends house...

it took us roughly 12 hrs to get everything from downloading the tranny to uploading it and installing it./.....





fuck...being IT sucks..

[dannyboy17]

i blew my tranny but i dind't blow the LSD
actually if you read the first post i went thru gears and was still able to drive the car to my friends house...

it took us roughly 12 hrs to get everything from downloading the tranny to uploading it and installing it./.....





fuck...being IT sucks..

is there really a noticeable difference between the LSD and non LSD tranny?
or feels almost the same?

[Alejo_NIN]

in a straight line wihtout punching it it you won't feel the difference...
taking a turn and stepping on it a lil bit....mang...what a fucking difference...

LSD pulls your thru the turn, gripping with both tires...
open diff just makes the tire with less contact spin...so if you are taking a right turn...all the weight of your car will go towards the left-front sid eof the car while the right-front will lift.....this will make the differential give all the power to the tire without grip, the inside tire...the front-right

also, since the tranny on our cars is on the driver side, if you do a burn out it will only burn out that one tire since the axle is shorter...

in short....
i don't know how people drove cars wihtout LSD before...

[dannyboy17]

u should keep ur tranny and build it then :) just swap it again when the current one breaks.
now that I hit 14's I wanna go 13's lol
its funny tho, last time I ran a 15.01 as my best and said I was gonna be happy with a 14.9 lol, now I ran a 14.4 and since its only .4 away I want 13's hahah.

But yeah, next time Im running on 225 size tires so I can improve my 60ft hopefully, get it down to 2.0-2.1

[kamon8404]

four so far. But I think the king of breakin trannies is that guy in canada...crap I forgot his SN.

You talkin about the infamous focus?

[TurbomanProtege]

I wish I was that fast doing tranny work I'm going on a month with mine and I cant find no trannies that cheap up here, the cheapest I found was 600 bucks which was non mazdaspeed

[SeR_Cyclops]

WHAT!?!?! that is crazy!

[Protege5 Driver]

i scored a non msp tranny for 450

[ItsSlow]

yeah but to get the first two big bolts off you are gonna need a impact gun.

Trust me, I know.. lol

I bought a probe trans for 112.. The bellhousing ended up cracking a couple months later..

[Alejo_NIN]

i didn't use no impact gun!
it was all from the gut muscle

[shane02pro5]

The LSD can be swapped in but then you have to crack it opened to do it.

[ItsSlow]

i didn't use no impact gun!
it was all from the gut muscle

hes talking about the nuts on the end of the input and output shafts..

[Alejo_NIN]

even so...i've removed them wihtout the need for an impact gun...don't get me wrong...an impact gun is alot of help but a big PALANCA is also good most of the times

[MSP4G63]

...an impact gun is alot of help but a big PALANCA is also good most of the times

(lol) Reminds me of a time in school when one of my friends told one of our white friends(no offense) to hand him a ALICATE he was frantically searching for it until someone else told him pliers.

[Alejo_NIN]

i do that to all my gringo friends...
when i start getting irritated because a bolt won't come out i'll something like

"oiste, traeme ese gran hijueputa destornillador y el martillo que estoy que cojo este puto carro a pata, please."

[avarela86]

Yeah those two bolts are no joke. I rather not bother swapping just for an LSD that will ALSO eventually break. If it was a Quaiffe thats a different story.

As for $600 you got ripped off bro. The trick is going to the GHETTO areas of your city where you usually DON"T go to and finding a junk yard that you can pull the tranny yourself. Usually those are the cheapest places. The place I got to is cheap I guess just cause it's Miami. I don't know it works! Alejo recommended the place and I've going ever since.

[18sOnAiR]

What you pick, do you go to?

[Alejo_NIN]

i go to the one on okee and 120?
somewhere around there...

the one in 74th and palmetto is bigger but for some reason don't have as many 626, mx6 and ford probes as the other u-pick

when i found my tranny, there was another ford probe next to it manual, untouched....perfect for someone to do a tranny swap from automatic...

[Speed3.5]

so i better get some new gears , so i don't have to look for used non-lsd trany

Alejo_NIN - what about those TBK's gears ??

you boosting 10 psi ?? damn, that stock turbo must be boosting very quickly!!!

are you at or above 200whp ???

[Alejo_NIN]

I BETTER BE!

well, the TBK gears are about 600$ a pair, so...kinda high for me...
anyways, the goal this year is to build the motor.....is smoking like crazy, any day now it'll blow

[avarela86]

so i better get some new gears , so i don't have to look for used non-lsd trany

Alejo_NIN - what about those TBK's gears ??

you boosting 10 psi ?? damn, that stock turbo must be boosting very quickly!!!

are you at or above 200whp ???

All it really comes down to is the amount or torque at the low end of the power curve with such a small turbo which puts all the stress on the gears. I have broken mine as well but I think it has been mostly from power shifting. Or as I call it "metiendo esa mierda fuerte".

[Alejo_NIN]

hahaha, yeah
prolly what happened to mine, that and crappy M/T oil

[avarela86]

hahaha, yeah
prolly what happened to mine, that and crappy M/T oil

speaking of oil mine prolly has none. It leaks BAD and I have like an oil covered fender from it shooting from the black casing on the end of the tranny. I need to put some gasket stuff but im too lazy.

[NOTSPCY]

i go to the one on okee and 120?
somewhere around there...

the one in 74th and palmetto is bigger but for some reason don't have as many 626, mx6 and ford probes as the other u-pick

when i found my tranny, there was another ford probe next to it manual, untouched....perfect for someone to do a tranny swap from automatic...


Sounds like what i need . but i have a warranty on my pro still . that would diff kill it for me . lol . damn i want a 5 spd !!!

[avarela86]

Sounds like what i need . but i have a warranty on my pro still . that would diff kill it for me . lol . damn i want a 5 spd !!!

I don't see how you still have warranty on your car. How many miles does it have? What year? How often has it needed warranty work?

[Alejo_NIN]

yea, hard to believe you still have warranty....is not a 50k mile warranty, it is a 4 yr/50k mile - whichever comes first...and if you don't have 50k miles, good for you..but the last msp was made on 2003.7 and by now the warranty should be done for

[dannyboy17]

there is always extended warranty...for stockish cars, or those that keep all the stock parts to put them back when stuff breaks :)

[Speed3.5]

ALEJO - get the GTX gears then ???

i'm thinking of biffing up the tranny since engine will get postponed until next summer.

avalera86 - when does that GT28rs of yours starts and gets to full boost by and how does it keep the boost till the red-line or goes down a bit ?? lmk pls. I have to make my mind up either get one like that or the GT2871r one, depending on the spool time that is.

[Skoozul]

Just swapped out my engine in time for the tranny to go, now I sitting here again without a car. Before I drop the dough I want to make sure the the trannies out of the 626, mx6 and ford probes are direct swaps no mods needed. I've been pricing them out and "Protege 5" trannies cost $600-800 out of state but when I start searching for probes they drop down to $200 in town. Sounds to good to be true. Besides the age what other differences are there, gear ratios, sensor conection, or anything else? And should I be chaning out the seals before I drop it in?

[Alejo_NIN]

as far as i know, gear ratios are different, specially 5th which is a little longer
they swap right out of the box but you need to replace the sensors with the msp tranny sensors...the sensors are the same, just the connections are different...
other than that is the fact that the 626 tranny doesn't have a LSD and the LSD is not a direct drop in in this tranny either...

200 too good to be true? damn....i bought mine for 80 bucks...

good luck tho

[JCell]

i love my tranny, still doesnt make any unusual noises.... by clutch on the other hand :(, it's been going for the last 6 months or so, yet i can still light up second gear if i power shift or if its a lil wet :) Yay for a g8t clutch from mazda

[Alejo_NIN]

power shift.....hehe....i give your tranny a few more "powershiftings"

i thought my tranny was great too
it never grinded gears until 3rd broke!

lol

oh well...

knock on wood, jcell!
KNOCK ON WOOD!

[NOTSPCY]

i have a extended warranty . i have a 2003 es protege bought in dec . mileage i have about 49k

[JCell]

power shift.....hehe....i give your tranny a few more "powershiftings"

i thought my tranny was great too
it never grinded gears until 3rd broke!

lol

oh well...

knock on wood, jcell!
KNOCK ON WOOD!

going on 4 years strong of non stop abuse.... maybe i'm just doing it right? lol