Flash Tuning the CX-9

[blueyo]

As I was searching on tuning the cx-9 I found that it is very possible to do that... CX-7 owners have come up with a flash tunes for the CX7

for people who don't know what a flash tuning does, it's the best way to make use of your car power.. it is done by flashing the ECU with new firmware that will boost the power of the car at the same time lift the top speed limit.. yes thats true you can go as fast as 136 mph.. 220 km/h

these are the results before and after tuning he CX7

Stock.
0-100kmh = 8.20 seconds @ 132kw peak.

Tuned.
0-100kmh = 7.82 seconds @ 150kw peak.

My point is we CX-9 owners need to work on a flash tune, please expert on this forum hear me out... there are so many cx-9 owners out there that dreams of tuning their car, I'm one of them.

let us work together by sharing info on how to flash a ECU and from where to get the parts, etc..

I don't know much about cars and tunes, but I'm willing to learn from people that know and guide me through and tell me what parts needed, i'm willing to buy each and every single part.

I'm dying for this.

I want to know if you guys agree with me and willing to work on this mega project.

Cheers

[clarko]

Aussie CX9's are speed limited to 180kph, not that I intend to go over that but I think it is unnecessary to put a limit on it, in a local car Magazine, a test produced a top speed of 181kph in the CX9 (speed limited) and 207kph in the Subaru Tribeca which was not limited.

As far as flash tuning goes, there are much greater gains to be made in the CX7 because it is a TURBO, because they can increase the boost pressure and make mammoth gains, for example, my last car was a turbo and it went from 240kw to 305kw with just a tune.
However, in saying that, it is still possible to pick up about 20 trouble free kw with a CX9 if the software and a good tuner was available.

[blueyo]

I know but lifting the speed limit and increasing power a little is good enough.. people with expertise out there here is a question for you, Is it possible to do a flash tune for the CX-9 and how to do that?

[AussieCX9]

I reckon some work on a better CAI set up, create better flow through the exhaust but keep the noise level to a minimum and add a good quality tuneable piggyback chip will give you great results also.

Smoother power delivery, better fuel economy, noticable increase in Kw's and torque.

Maybe not what your looking for Blueyo because you would not be able to change the speed limiter with this type of set up, but the rest of us that rarely pass 140kph on the open road would appreciate the extra grunt under foot.......zoom zoom

[AussieCX9]

my last car was a turbo and it went from 240kw to 305kw with just a tune.
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Hi Clarko, sounds like you had a XR6T. They are absolute weapons with the right mods. I had the first BA model XR6 N/A for a short time and I had a mate of mine do some work to her. You may have heard of RDP (Redcliffe Dyno & performance) here in Brisbane, well Steve installed a piggyback chip, extractors, 2.5inch exhaust, 2nd CAI, K&N filter, platinum plugs and results were outstanding for a non turbo with just bolt on mods.

Before = 162.5rwkw
After = 193.7rwkw
Torque increased by 90Nm
Quarter mile= 14.6@97mph

I should ask if he could install a chip in the CX9 just for interests sake(drive2)

[blueyo]

I should ask if he could install a chip in the CX9 just for interests sake(drive2)

Please do,, I'm interested in tuning my cx-9 in any way possible

[clarko]

Hi Clarko, sounds like you had a XR6T. They are absolute weapons with the right mods. I had the first BA model XR6 N/A for a short time and I had a mate of mine do some work to her. You may have heard of RDP (Redcliffe Dyno & performance) here in Brisbane, well Steve installed a piggyback chip, extractors, 2.5inch exhaust, 2nd CAI, K&N filter, platinum plugs and results were outstanding for a non turbo with just bolt on mods.

Before = 162.5rwkw
After = 193.7rwkw
Torque increased by 90Nm
Quarter mile= 14.6@97mph

I should ask if he could install a chip in the CX9 just for interests sake(drive2)

Spot on Aussie CX9, it was an XR6T with tune, CAI and exhaust it had ..........286rwk and did the quarter in 12.8@118mph.

[clarko]

Please do,, I'm interested in tuning my cx-9 in any way possible


Its only a matter of time before "Powerchip" (Australia) bring out a chip for the CX9.(thumb)

[WaxiP5]

these are the results before and after tuning he CX7

Stock.
0-100kmh = 8.20 seconds @ 132kw peak.

Tuned.
0-100kmh = 7.82 seconds @ 150kw peak.



Sorry to kill your hopes but the flashing a NA engine like the our CX9's will not yield gains similar to a turbochanged engine.

Forced induction engines just responds better to tuning. My Subaru gained a dyno proven +50 HP and +90 lb/ft torque to the wheels with a pro-tune and of course some supporting bolt on mods (catless up pipe, turbo-back exhaust, and AVO top mount intercooler being the major ones). All that with a stock turbo and fueling.

[clarko]

Sorry to kill your hopes but the flashing a NA engine like the our CX9's will not yield gains similar to a turbochanged engine.

Forced induction engines just responds better to tuning. My Subaru gained a dyno proven +50 HP and +90 lb/ft torque to the wheels with a pro-tune and of course some supporting bolt on mods (catless up pipe, turbo-back exhaust, and AVO top mount intercooler being the major ones). All that with a stock turbo and fueling.

Yeh, as stated in post number "2" its called increasing the boost!!!

[sbmrinaldi]

turbo motors can be tweaked easily. I had numerous Nissan 300ZX twin turbos and by modding the "brain" the turbo motor gained 100hp and the normally aspirated motor would only gain around 20hp. For $600 it was a great gain if you had a turbo.

[semrz1]

Hello Blueyo & QATARI CX9,
Just to check with you guys if any updates from your side with respect to getting rid speed limiter and speed alarm. Thanks

[Mustang96Girl]

Hi guys,

I'm also looking for a way to get rid of the speed limiter in my CX-9. I love beating everybody at the traffic light when the light turns green but it makes me want to puke when they catch up with me at 160kmph. Gosh, what an upset!!!!

[CX9 SportOwner]

I'd KILL myself if I couldn't outrun guys that think their V8's will blow me away.

[semrz1]

Hi Mustang96Girl,
i assumed you are in one of the country in Middle East, otherwise you wouldn't mentioned about speed limiter. Blueyo, Qatari CX9 and me have been waiting and looking for solution. That's make you the fourth person. Welcome to the UPSET SPEED LIMITER CLUB....hehehe... I'm planning to drive to Dubai in July, and hopefully, the tuner overthere can do something about the speed limit and speed buzzer.

CX9 SportOwner,
That's the spirit. DON'T EVER GET BEATEN BY V8's.

[Mustang96Girl]

Thanks Semrz1,

I'm glad that you guys are working hard to find out how to fix this thing. I mean I spent about two weeks on the internet looking for performance chips but I couldn't find anything for the Mazda's 2008 3.7 Ltr V6. Good Luck with your trip to Dubai!!!

Mustang96Girl from Bahrain!

Over and out...

[semrz1]

Hello Mustang96Girl,
No probelmo. If i get any positive outcome, will definitely share with everyone. By the way, Bahrain is just a coastal highway from where I'm leaving now. Let's meet up if I'm in Bahrain and we can talk about cars...

[sp23mayhem]

should try looking at piasini ecu reflashes!

[semrz1]

Hello sp23mayhem,
Is that a software or website? Thanks

[sp23mayhem]

Hello sp23mayhem,
Is that a software or website? Thanks


hi there, its both have a look.

http://www.piasiniengineering.it/

[semrz1]

Hey there sp23mayhem,
Thanks for the link. It will be great if there was a franchise PIASINI company operating in Middle East. Unfortunately, the HQ is in Europe and Asia being a franchise company. This is way to far from me. Being and Expatriate car modification enthuaist living in Middle East is not a bonus. Oh well, just have to be patience....Thanks again

[sp23mayhem]

Hey there sp23mayhem,
Thanks for the link. It will be great if there was a franchise PIASINI company operating in Middle East. Unfortunately, the HQ is in Europe and Asia being a franchise company. This is way to far from me. Being and Expatriate car modification enthuaist living in Middle East is not a bonus. Oh well, just have to be patience....Thanks again


hi there semrz1
there is a way around it, you cand send your ecu to Italy. Providing you can do without your car for a bit of time. An Ms3 in here in Australia was done over the phone (Melbourne-Brisbane) but the guy had some equipment and was able to flash it himself.

[semrz1]

hello sp23mayhem,
I wish I can do that but unfortunately this is my only transport for the family. I might hand carry the ecu to Malaysia during my vacation in 4 months time. Thank you for your feedback.

[blueyo]

I"ve contacted piasini from italy.. he told me to take picture of my ECU and send him the pictures, to see if he has the firmware the can flash the ecu and reprogram it to have a better performance and lift the speed limit and overspeed beep that i'm trying to do from the first day I bought this great car... the thing is i'm not familiarly where to find the ECU and how to get it out of the car.. I wish, Really WISH, if someone from this forum could do that and post the pictures and leave the rest to me.. I'll do what ever it takes to get it done..

like mentioned above piasini website it
http://www.piasiniengineering.it/

[sp23mayhem]

ILtry and find out where it is for you blueyo, by any chance is it next to the battery box in its own compartment?

[blueyo]

ILtry and find out where it is for you blueyo, by any chance is it next to the battery box in its own compartment?

sp23mayhem Thanks for your interest.. I guess its next to the battery but you can see it, your have to take out the battery you'll find it under the battery that what i understood from piasini.. let us work hard to find the ECU and take pictures of it.

[semrz1]

Blueyo,
Have you managed to locate the ecu? If not, it is next to the brake pedal behind a plastic black cover panel. You need to unscrew one lock before removing the panel, and also, you need to unclip the door side step panel. I managed to remove them but then my digital camera fell and broke. You need to unclip all the connecter of the wiring from the ECU if you wish to take out the ECU ffrom the holder. Make sue you mark each connector so you remember where to clip back. Good luck.

[blueyo]

Cool thanks semrz1, I'll let you know what happens after i remove the ecu.. I'll keep you updated

thanks again for the help

[nypest]

Great to see some cx9 intrests :D

[nypest]

ILtry and find out where it is for you blueyo, by any chance is it next to the battery box in its own compartment?


By the way the denso stuff is sorted ;)

[semrz1]

Blueyo, Mustang Girl & Qatari CX9,
Just out of curiousity, did you manage to remove the speed alarm? If yes, how did you get it off. Thanks

[TRXSandRacer02]

what is with people and Cold air intakes? you guys realize most mazdas have variable intake manifold runner control, swirl valves with act as superchargers in yoru intake, varibale air duct control which actually opes the bottom of the air box for more air flow, to be honest, put some exhaust on it, put a k&n filter in it, and come up with a way to change vvt timing at different throttle positions. CX9s are very top heavy because of the wheelbase front to rear and i dont think they shoudl be driven at high speeds

[semrz1]

Hello TRXSand..,
I assumed you are a Mazda Technician base on what you posted in different sub-forum. Maybe you can help us how to get rid of the speed alarm. I've drove cars that do emit alarm at 120km/h but none of them has sound as annoyance as CX-9 for ME spec. Open to constructive feedback. Thanks

[nypest]

CHIP POINT ENGINEERING (UAE)
PO BOX 202169
TEL Office: +97137631555



Yazeed Sharif Is one of the dealers for Piasini engineering from Italy who is one of the very FEW that can Tune these mazda ECU's...I am the US dealier for the mazdaspeed 3,6 and cx7 and the tunes are impressive .....

This contact maybe able to help you all with your tuning for the cx9 :)

First important thing need to know is if you have the Mitsubishi or Denso ECU on board your Cx9.... If your willing to help with developement please PM me :D

Tim

[Sassimac]

If there are any CX9's in Melbourne Australia, visit me at my website for contact details.

I'll see what we can do to get a tune done. I am the Australian Dealer for Piasini.

Cheers...!!!
BTW, My CX7 was one involeved in testing.
Stock 0-100kmh = 8.5 seconds @ 127kw
Tuned 0-100kmh = 6.8 seconds @158kw.

So nice to drive now.

[Lindyrect]

CHIP POINT ENGINEERING (UAE)
PO BOX 202169
TEL Office: +97137631555



Yazeed Sharif Is one of the dealers for Piasini engineering from Italy who is one of the very FEW that can Tune these mazda ECU's...I am the US dealier for the mazdaspeed 3,6 and cx7 and the tunes are impressive .....

This contact maybe able to help you all with your tuning for the cx9 :)

First important thing need to know is if you have the Mitsubishi or Denso ECU on board your Cx9.... If your willing to help with developement please PM me :D

Tim

I will be in Italy around July, so I am game for helping out.

[MC Tuner]

Dear All,
i would like to know if someone manged to do it after all. i found that the CX-9 uses a ford ECU if that can help.

[100$ GUY]

3.7L V6
305 HP 280 lb-ft TORQUE
Yep, Ford "flash tuned" the EDGE .......LOL
Wouldn`t that be nice for the cx-9?

[ceric]

If that the engine that will be on 2011 Edge and Mustang (as base engine)?
I wonder if it is DI. (direct injection)

[dougtx]

I don't see much point. The CX-7 sees easy improvement because it is turbocharged, my other car is turbocharged and sees a big improvement from a tuned ECU, but I highly doubt you would get much out of an NA engine from ECU tuning alone.

[Lexani 22 CX9]

I cant wait for some type of tuning to come out. Even if it only gives me 10HP, I really want it for the MPG economy.

[EON]

Hi guys,

I'm also looking for a way to get rid of the speed limiter in my CX-9. I love beating everybody at the traffic light when the light turns green but it makes me want to puke when they catch up with me at 160kmph. Gosh, what an upset!!!!

[jmac36]

Dear All,
i would like to know if someone manged to do it after all. i found that the CX-9 uses a ford ECU if that can help.

Yes, the ecu on the cx9 has been cracked! Tuning will produce 18-24hp on these engines

[jpr210]

If it has been cracked, please let us know by who so that we know who to contact for an ECU upgrade.

Thanks

Jpr

[NWCX9]

Yes, the ecu on the cx9 has been cracked! Tuning will produce 18-24hp on these engines


Any updates?? :confused:

[MC Tuner]

bump for update

[eqt2010]

waiting for the update.

[jmac36]

waiting for the update.

as I am not a sponsor here, I can't give you any updates. I will tell you that the cx9 is indeed tunable, and is being done.

[jpr210]

I dont think that it is against the rules to point us in a direction that we can search ourselves, why keep this such a tight secret?

Jpr

[mazda-power]

waiting for update as well

[nuru]

waiting for the update. +10!

[troytroy]

Waiting for an update too......why is this so hard to mention?

[shodanusmc]

How much more power would a tune put out for this 6 Cylinder? Now I could see if it had a turbo or a Twin Turbo.....

Too bad the Ford TT is not an option. To me, the CX-9 is slow......

Tghen again, any tune will void the warranty if they can prove it was caused by the Tune, and if engine/Tranny related, they will go out of their way to deny.

[nuru]

How much more power would a tune put out for this 6 Cylinder? Now I could see if it had a turbo or a Twin Turbo.....

Too bad the Ford TT is not an option. To me, the CX-9 is slow......

Tghen again, any tune will void the warranty if they can prove it was caused by the Tune, and if engine/Tranny related, they will go out of their way to deny.

Definitely true. :C

[helbigtw]

I would like to see a supercharger in the 9, would be just the right amount of power. Although I don't know how tough these engines are, if it would involve having to install a better head gasket, etc. And I'm not sure what the FWD axle shafts are rated at. I know Honda pretty much builds their half shafts for the engine in the car, and no more, VW used to build their half shafts pretty tough, up to around 3x the capacity of the power that came from the factory, but not sure what they build them at now, probly alot cheaper.

I can just see the badging on the 9: "CX-9 SC"

[nuru]

I would like to see a supercharger in the 9, would be just the right amount of power. Although I don't know how tough these engines are, if it would involve having to install a better head gasket, etc. And I'm not sure what the FWD axle shafts are rated at. I know Honda pretty much builds their half shafts for the engine in the car, and no more, VW used to build their half shafts pretty tough, up to around 3x the capacity of the power that came from the factory, but not sure what they build them at now, probly alot cheaper.

I can just see the badging on the 9: "CX-9 SC"


Hmm, adding a SPRCHRGR, I would be kinda concerned about increasing the roll over potential, as the vehicle is a bit top heavy, and so i would install much stiffer sway bars and struts, lower it, etc.

[jmac36]

I dont think that it is against the rules to point us in a direction that we can search ourselves, why keep this such a tight secret?

Jpr

dynotronicstuning.com

[SupaDave03]

Bump

[cjc]

Is it possible to have a supercharger for the CX-9?

According to the link below, the v6 2011 mustang engine is a version of the Duratec 37 engine, similar to the CX-9. And of course they make superchargers for the mustang.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratec_engine

Am I right or just wishful thinking?

[ceric]

When adding a turbo or supercharger, you have to know if the shaft or transmission can handle the extra torque.
Our transmission is from Aisin, which is different from the one on a Mustang. The extra margin could be different.
Besides, you might also need programming update to get the max benefits.
A low psi charger should still keep the engine reliable and within acceptable range of torque spec.
A big project that I am not going try at all.

This is something that I might want to do if I own an old NSX (97+), which is a bit underpowered, IMHO.

[jmac36]

There have been a few SC's installed on the 9 that we know of. Not sure of the origin of the kits, but we have tuned three with reflashes todate

[qck]

There have been a few SC's installed on the 9 that we know of. Not sure of the origin of the kits, but we have tuned three with reflashes todate

Can you tell us what gains were made by doing this?

[ceric]

Good question. I'd love to know also.
It must depend on the psi.
High boost might give you a hard-time at next smog check in CA.

[denot]

For Austarlian CX9 owner...

Taken from Powerchip (Australia) website:
Your Mazda CX-9 3.7i due to the complexity of the flash modification your cars ecu will need to be sent to melbourne for modification as no other powerchip resellers can perform this installation.

In standard form, the CX-9 3.7i produces 204 kW and 366 Nm.

Powerchip has a range of chips to suit your car, which can increase it's power to 218 kW, and it's torque to 391 Nm.

The price of the Powerchip is AUD $1,990.00.
14kw/25Nm gain for $2k? Not worthed I say...

[jmac36]

The ecu can be reflashed with a performance tuned file for both the forced induction and the normal atmo with no issues.

As I recall the gains on the sc kitwas impressive, but muted a bit to keep the driveline safe.

Atmo cars(stock) are gaining 18-24 whp but tons of area under the tq curve, so driveablity is greatly improved.