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D_Roc7822
03-25-2008, 05:57 PM
Ok so this has been bugging me.. can anyone tell me step by step how to install the spin on Oil conversion kit for the speed3? I tried looking up how to do it, both using the search tool and the how to section but to no avail. So any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have all the stuff.. the oil filter from a tribute with the 2.3l and 6 quarts of mobil 1 5w30.. all I need now is the how to do it. Ill prolly be kicking myself in the nuts when I realize how easy it is but for right now, Im a lil worried about doing the install. Thanks in advance.

TheMAN
03-25-2008, 05:59 PM
if you have to ask, then it's probably too challenging for you
I did it on a mz5 myself and it wasn't a walk in the park, although it's not totally involved like an engine or transmission tear down, but it wasn't super easy that's for sure

enganear
03-25-2008, 06:54 PM
Ok so this has been bugging me.. can anyone tell me step by step how to install the spin on Oil conversion kit for the speed3? I tried looking up how to do it, both using the search tool and the how to section but to no avail. So any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have all the stuff.. the oil filter from a tribute with the 2.3l and 6 quarts of mobil 1 5w30.. all I need now is the how to do it. Ill prolly be kicking myself in the nuts when I realize how easy it is but for right now, Im a lil worried about doing the install. Thanks in advance.

There is one screw on top that secures the cooler to the filter housing, there are four screws that hold the filter housing to the block.

That is really all you need to know, remove the old one, replace with the new one. Use the new gasket. Don't twist off any screws.

It really is that easy.

D_Roc7822
03-25-2008, 09:19 PM
if you have to ask, then it's probably too challenging for you
I did it on a mz5 myself and it wasn't a walk in the park, although it's not totally involved like an engine or transmission tear down, but it wasn't super easy that's for sure

lol you crack me up, I always love to hear what you have to say. I found a how to on the other forum.. but thanks to the 2 people who replied.

08cosmic3
03-25-2008, 11:31 PM
http://www.mazda6tech.com/articles/how-to/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=1

This is for the Mazda 6 but should be the same for us.

Scott.

AutoXRacer
03-26-2008, 01:03 AM
Let us know how it goes...I'll be doing the same...

D_Roc7822
03-27-2008, 03:35 PM
http://www.mazda6tech.com/articles/how-to/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=1

This is for the Mazda 6 but should be the same for us.

Scott.

Thanks alot... I was going to do it yesterday but got busy and now its raining and nasty outside so Ill have to wait. Ill letcha know how it goes.

trufanatic
03-27-2008, 03:42 PM
whats the advantage of using the spin on filter? and what model filter will you be using from now on to fit the new housing?

enganear
03-27-2008, 07:55 PM
You may wish to review this thread for answers.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123697911

-enganear

D_Roc7822
03-27-2008, 08:09 PM
whats the advantage of using the spin on filter? and what model filter will you be using from now on to fit the new housing?

Im using the filter from a 2007 tribute with the 2.3L. I was in a hurry to get a filter so I just picked up fram one. Next time, Ill prolly go with a wix or mobil one filter. Or maybe a K & N one. And it just makes it easier to change your oil is all it does really.

D_Roc7822
03-27-2008, 08:10 PM
You may wish to review this thread for answers.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123697911

-enganear

trust me.. I have referenced that page more than my hands will allow me to count. Great info.

enganear
03-27-2008, 09:32 PM
Im using the filter from a 2007 tribute with the 2.3L. I was in a hurry to get a filter so I just picked up fram one. Next time, Ill prolly go with a wix or mobil one filter. Or maybe a K & N one. And it just makes it easier to change your oil is all it does really.

Don't waste your money on the K&N, it is just the Mobil 1 filter with a nut welded on the bottom.
-enganear

wisniaPl
03-27-2008, 09:39 PM
enganear did you put more oil after conversion or its the same amount??

enganear
03-27-2008, 09:52 PM
enganear did you put more oil after conversion or its the same amount??

Sorry, I have everything ready for the next oil change, but have not done it yet. I expect it to take a little more oil because I am using the larger filter for the reasons discussed in the referenced thread.
-enganear

builthatch
03-27-2008, 10:08 PM
I always love to hear what you have to say.

i don't. he's like a hemorrhoid. he'd be gone long ago if it was my forum. having knowledge doesn't entitle anyone to be inflammatory to other members, especially ones asking legitimate questions while getting started.

anyway, regarding oil level- i put 6qts in mine after i did the conversion. it probably could have taken a 10th or so less. next time i'm going to do like 5.75ish and see where it's at after a startup.

D_Roc7822
03-27-2008, 10:09 PM
enganear did you put more oil after conversion or its the same amount??

I think you put in a lil bit more than with the cartidge, but thats just what I think I remember seeing on here while doing my research. If it is, its not much. Do a search and I know your find it, should have the title of to those with the spin on conversion or something like that.

D_Roc7822
03-27-2008, 10:10 PM
Don't waste your money on the K&N, it is just the Mobil 1 filter with a nut welded on the bottom.
-enganear

Good looking out man.. thanks for the advice.

TheMAN
03-28-2008, 03:55 AM
i don't. he's like a hemorrhoid. he'd be gone long ago if it was my forum. having knowledge doesn't entitle anyone to be inflammatory to other members, especially ones asking legitimate questions while getting started.

anyway, regarding oil level- i put 6qts in mine after i did the conversion. it probably could have taken a 10th or so less. next time i'm going to do like 5.75ish and see where it's at after a startup.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/misc10.jpg
if pussy footing around everything is your style, go for it... I don't have time for that shit... you can say that if it's a stupid thread I'd say something nasty in, I should ignore it... and ignore I do as I don't have time for that either... but there ARE some threads that do need attention as people who post in them either send the original poster in the wrong direction or the original poster is getting himself into deep shit... I don't care if you or anyone thinks that telling people to STOP because it seems they're incapable/incompetent to do what they want to do is harsh... if these bullish remarks are what it takes to stop people from fucking up their cars that they used their hard earned money on and wasting more money in the end, then so be it

as for this particular subject matter, there hasn't been a true how-to written for THIS style of oil filter mount, only the non-cooled ones... since that hasn't been done, I'm inclined to tell all n00bs to leave this shit alone and let someone more knowledgeable do this for you or have someone come over to your place to help! this *may* change when there's a how-to written

TheMAN
03-28-2008, 03:57 AM
http://www.mazda6tech.com/articles/how-to/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=1

This is for the Mazda 6 but should be the same for us.

Scott.
it's NOT the same
since the ms3 has an oil cooler, it's a bit more involving than just changing the mount... you have to unbolt the oil cooler and move it out of the way, that's IF you can get to the oil cooler bolt... trust me, it's NOT easy

like I said, if you have to ask even after you looked at the car (and couldn't figure it out), then it's probably too difficult for you to do this

goldstar
03-28-2008, 07:24 AM
Listen to what TheMAN has to say or be afraid, be very afraid. Expose your ignorance to TheMAN and he will smite you until you desist. Rejoice that TheMAN sees fit to correct your errant thoughts.

mckraut
03-28-2008, 08:33 AM
i don't. he's like a hemorrhoid. he'd be gone long ago if it was my forum. having knowledge doesn't entitle anyone to be inflammatory to other members, especially ones asking legitimate questions while getting started.

anyway, regarding oil level- i put 6qts in mine after i did the conversion. it probably could have taken a 10th or so less. next time i'm going to do like 5.75ish and see where it's at after a startup.

Not to derail the thread any more, but +1. Tired of his BS.

D Roc, let us know how the change goes, maybe you could do a write up for all the "idiots" out there.

goldstar
03-28-2008, 08:52 AM
-1

crossbow
03-28-2008, 09:54 AM
Actually the K&N and Mobil1 filters are quite different. The K&N has a higher flow rate then the Mobil1, while the mobil1 has a better filtration rate. The two filters aim for different results, even though they're made by the same company.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com

The price of both has gotten kinda of rediculous as of late. =/

+1 to the man. It's not the same as the 6tech article. There are additional steps due to the oil/water cooler. Also please be careful with torquing the bolts back on. If you strip them.....

enganear
03-28-2008, 08:04 PM
Actually the K&N and Mobil1 filters are quite different. The K&N has a higher flow rate then the Mobil1, while the mobil1 has a better filtration rate. The two filters aim for different results, even though they're made by the same company.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com

The price of both has gotten kinda of rediculous as of late. =/

+1 to the man. It's not the same as the 6tech article. There are additional steps due to the oil/water cooler. Also please be careful with torquing the bolts back on. If you strip them.....

I read a different study, thanks for pointing out the flow difference. The WIX is a good filter, especially when you factor in the price.

Removal of the oil cooler should just be one screw in the top center. Is it that difficult to reach?
-enganear

TheMAN
03-28-2008, 10:02 PM
yes, unless you want to take the starter off

enganear
03-28-2008, 11:15 PM
yes, unless you want to take the starter off

You should be able to drop the entire filter housing with the slack in the coolant hoses and have easy access to the cooler screw on top. Did you try this approach?
-enganear

TheMAN
03-29-2008, 01:21 AM
that's what I did and it's not recommended as there's not any way to provide leverage to keep the whole thing still to loosen/tighten that bolt without potentially damaging parts