tires..

[mazdaspeed32007]

im putting a 225 on the 7" stock rim and wondered what tire i should get. now that im getting new ones i wanted to get some feed back on a sweet tire. nothing to expensive. maybe like nitto....falken....??? but i dont know anything about tires. when i looked them up there are about 10 different style numbers and my brain stopped there. any ideas?

[aaronc7]

From my own research...I went with the Falken 452s. Seem to perform pretty good and not wear down super fast. I'll have mine on this week or next hopefully.

[mazdaspeed32007]

what did you pay and where did you ghet them? i want to get some from a local dealer somewhere instead of ordering online. just wondering where you got your shit. im seeing anywhere from 125 a tire to 160 a tire for the 225/40/18 452's....probably should just try to ask some places to order them for me at around that price...?

[whitemp5seattle]

From my own research...I went with the Falken 452s. Seem to perform pretty good and not wear down super fast. I'll have mine on this week or next hopefully.

I had the 452's on my summer rims for my p5. GREAT tire. Very low noise and awesome grip. my two cents.

[aaronc7]

ummmm something like 135/tire for 235/40/18.It's actually cheaper to get 235/40 than 225/40 in that tire from them for some reason LOL. I got this from discount tire..the actual store not their online site. It would be about the same price to order them from discounttiredirect.com and have them installed, but if you get them in the store, you get install + lifetime balance and rotation for cheaper and get some of your money back if a tire blows (based on tread life left). I think I got a pretty good deal, but one of my best buddies works there.

[mazdaspeed32007]

ummmm something like 135/tire for 235/40/18.It's actually cheaper to get 235/40 than 225/40 in that tire from them for some reason LOL. I got this from discount tire..the actual store not their online site. It would be about the same price to order them from discounttiredirect.com and have them installed, but if you get them in the store, you get install + lifetime balance and rotation for cheaper and get some of your money back if a tire blows (based on tread life left). I think I got a pretty good deal, but one of my best buddies works there.

sounds like a good deal to me. to bad you cant fit a 235 on a 7" rim. haha. well, we could try. i bet it wouldnt go over so well after a few miles though.

sweet guys thanks for the input. im getting the 452 then.

[aaronc7]

FYI several people have done it....235/40 on the 7" wide. It really didnt look that bad. there is some thread in here (pretty recent) that i posted pics in. I'm thinking handling may be compromised a bit (due to some sidewall 'bulging'), but probably not real noticeable on a day to day basis, unless you drive super aggressive all the time or something. Still....225/40/45 sounds better for a 7" wide I think. I have a 7.5 wide so i figured 235s would be alright

[mazdaspeed32007]

alright so ive been doing some research and they say the 225 's recommended wheel size is 7.5-9. im sure it will be fine on a 7". but i also found out you can get a 235 on a 7" rim if the ratio is 45 without a problem. and look what i just fount out on goodyears site...

245/4518 100Y 2819-5810 8.0 7.5 - 9.0 26.7 9.6 777 8.5 10/32 28.2 50 1764 Reinforced

a 245 on a 7.5??? i bet you could get this tire on our rim seeming the logic behind the previous assumption is the same. recommended 7.5 on a 7 inch rim. its a 45 ratio just like our stock tires. what do yall think? they are the eagle F1 supercar tires. im going to fucking shit if i can do this.

[mazdaspeed32007]

holy shit thats an expensive ass tire. round about 2-250 a tire. woh! ill stick to the 452's....but even still...check it out....same stats.

225/4518 95Y 2819-5812 7.5 7.0 - 8.5 26.0 8.9 799 8.1 10/32 25.3 50 1521 Reinforced

235/4018 95Y 2819-5816 8.5 8.0 - 9.5 25.3 9.6 821 8.5 10/32 26.2 50 1521 Reinforced

245/4518 100Y 2819-5810 8.0 7.5 - 9.0 26.7 9.6 777 8.5 10/32 28.2 50 1764 Reinforced




am i missing something? can someone explain this to me. im reading everywhere you can fit a 225 on a 7" rim. a 235 would fit but be a little "bulgy" but the stats say a 245 could fit on a 7" rim with what seems to be not a big problem at all. i know it would roll a little under hard driving and yada yada but why would a 235 be required to fit on an 8.5 inch rim but a 245 on an 8" rim?????!!!!! so what theyre saying is a 235 wouldnt fit on the stock rim but a 245 could possibly? i get the ratio is a 40 on the 235 and a 45 on the 245 but with the 245/45/18 i could squeeze this on my rim as well as yall were saying i could get that 235 on there right? wow....im fucked.....lil help

[whitemp5seattle]

wow. I just bought some Falken FK-452's today. $95 a tire at Town Fair Tire here in Torrington. 17" though...

[wisniaPl]

i will stick with 215 and will strech them on my new wheels18x8 when they will come I might rub if i will rub i will put 205

[mazdaspeed32007]

i will stick with 215 and will strech them on my new wheels18x8 when they will come I might rub if i will rub i will put 205

a 205 on an 8" rim? you should be able to get a 235 on that without any problem dude..wtf???....but that still doesnt answer my problem.... lol

ok so not that im going to put a 245 on but i guess i was wondering why they make a 45 ratio on a 245 and a 225 but not a 235? because the 235/45 would fit perfect wouldnt it?

[absolutamente]

If you don't know anything about tires, here is a quick explanation of at least what the numbers mean.
for the example: 225/40/R18
225 - Width in mm
40 - Sidewall height represented as percentage of width (40% on a 225 =90mm tall)
R - Radial
18 - Wheel diameter.

You do not want to put anything larger than a 225 width tire on the stock rims. And I would highly recommend not getting anything taller than a 40 sidewall on any tires larger than 225 if you want the thing to handle at all. To keep your overall diameter as close to stock while increasing the contact patch (keeping your speedometer correct) stick with a 225/40/r18.

I recently put zr speed rated 225/40 Nitto NT555 tires on my car. I bought them from tire racks e-bay store for $111 a piece. They are very nice tires for the price. While the straight line traction was very noticeably increased, you can feel a slight difference in flex around the corners. If I had it to do again, I would but r-compound 215/45 tires instead. But, that said, I am pretty happy with the results.

[mazdaspeed32007]

If you don't know anything about tires, here is a quick explanation of at least what the numbers mean.
for the example: 225/40/R18
225 - Width in mm
40 - Sidewall height represented as percentage of width (40% on a 225 =90mm tall)
R - Radial
18 - Wheel diameter.

You do not want to put anything larger than a 225 width tire on the stock rims. And I would highly recommend not getting anything taller than a 40 sidewall on any tires larger than 225 if you want the thing to handle at all. To keep your overall diameter as close to stock while increasing the contact patch (keeping your speedometer correct) stick with a 225/40/r18.

I recently put zr speed rated 225/40 Nitto NT555 tires on my car. I bought them from tire racks e-bay store for $111 a piece. They are very nice tires for the price. While the straight line traction was very noticeably increased, you can feel a slight difference in flex around the corners. If I had it to do again, I would but r-compound 215/45 tires instead. But, that said, I am pretty happy with the results.

alright...i think i got it. i knew most of that but i got some filler that helped me out. im going with the 225/40/18 falken 452 but i was just crazy confused for a second there.

[wisniaPl]

a 205 on an 8" rim? you should be able to get a 235 on that without any problem dude..wtf???....but that still doesnt answer my problem.... lol

ok so not that im going to put a 245 on but i guess i was wondering why they make a 45 ratio on a 245 and a 225 but not a 235? because the 235/45 would fit perfect wouldnt it?

I wont be able because of 38 offset(rockon)

[mazdaspeed32007]

I wont be able because of 38 offset(rockon)

that sucks dude. i wouldnt go with a 205 because your going to have so much rim to tire ratio. it will look sort of stupid. try to go as big as you can. good luck.

[wisniaPl]

I wont look stupi ...I like the way it will look
http://vortex3.rely.net/gallery/albums//Events/Enthusiast/Waterfest/2005/A4%20Golf-Jetta-GTI/021.jpg
ITS A VERY EASY WAY TO STRECH THE TIRES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xwfDEtk-R8&feature=related

[whitey4311]

LOL, now you just need Mariachi music bumpin' to complete the look.

BARF!

[wisniaPl]

haha very funy you just can say shit

[mazdaspeed32007]

alright....firstly-it looks crappy. anybody who walked by that car who even knows nothing about cars would say that tire is way to small for that rim. secondly-thats the funniest tire mounting ive ever seen. EVER! super awesome though. haha.

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

You do not want to put anything larger than a 225 width tire on the stock rims. And I would highly recommend not getting anything taller than a 40 sidewall on any tires larger than 225 if you want the thing to handle at all. To keep your overall diameter as close to stock while increasing the contact patch (keeping your speedometer correct) stick with a 225/40/r18.


If you swap out rims at the same time, 235/40 is the closest thing to the diameter of the stock 215/45. It also adds enough additional meat to make it worth the new rims.

[freebird_78]

Anyone read this month's Car & Driver (very last page) where someone wrote in dispelling the myth about wider tires having a larger contact patch. Contact patch is a function of vehicle weight vs tire pressure. Only the shape of contact patch will change with wider tires.

EDIT: That being said, I went with Nitto NT555s in 225/40 on a 7.5" rim.

[dkswim]

i need to get me a set of new tires this summer

[mazdaspeed32007]

Anyone read this month's Car & Driver (very last page) where someone wrote in dispelling the myth about wider tires having a larger contact patch. Contact patch is a function of vehicle weight vs tire pressure. Only the shape of contact patch will change with wider tires.

EDIT: That being said, I went with Nitto NT555s in 225/40 on a 7.5" rim.

I might have to read this article. I cant see how someone with a 245 isnt putting down more rubber than someone with a 215. I can understand if the weight of the car cant push the tire down if you went to large, but I only think this might have an effect if your cars weight and the size of the tire cant relate mathematically or something. aaaand with that being said I found out I can get falken 452's for 145 a piece with free installation, alignment, balance, blah blah blah. I don't think i can complain about that. I might have to take a trip out there tomorrow afternoon to purchase them. what do yall think of the deal? deal or no deal? lol. actually im not going to lie....i might wait until i get my exhaust on in two weeks. besides that...yey?

[freebird_78]

I might have to read this article. I cant see how someone with a 245 isnt putting down more rubber than someone with a 215. I can understand if the weight of the car cant push the tire down if you went to large, but I only think this might have an effect if your cars weight and the size of the tire cant relate mathematically or something. aaaand with that being said I found out I can get falken 452's for 145 a piece with free installation, alignment, balance, blah blah blah. I don't think i can complain about that. I might have to take a trip out there tomorrow afternoon to purchase them. what do yall think of the deal? deal or no deal? lol. actually im not going to lie....i might wait until i get my exhaust on in two weeks. besides that...yey?

It just makes sense. If the weight of the vehicle remains constant, and the pressure of the tire remains constant, the total contact patch area can't change. Works the other way too. If the vehicle weight is constant, tire size constant, and pressure drops, your contact patch will increase. Pressure and pressure constant and vehicle weight increases (or in the case of downforce), contact patch increases.

[ccann26]

It looks pretty cool but your probably going to be spinning your tires a bit not to mention the curbing of the rims will be much much easier .(yupnope)

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

It just makes sense. If the weight of the vehicle remains constant, and the pressure of the tire remains constant, the total contact patch area can't change. Works the other way too. If the vehicle weight is constant, tire size constant, and pressure drops, your contact patch will increase. Pressure and pressure constant and vehicle weight increases (or in the case of downforce), contact patch increases.

I think you're missing something here. By your logic, a 4 inch wide tire would have the same contact patch as an 8 inch wide tire. I haven't seen the article, but I will bet money they were talking about the depth of the patch, not the width. Remember that the patch is more or less rectangular. The depth of it front to back will not vary for the very reasons you state, but the width of the patch has to change to reflect the wider tread area. A properly adjusted tire will put the entire (flat) tread width to the ground. More tread equals wider contact patch. Because the front to back is defined by an arc (round tire), the pressure of the weight of the car pushing down against the air in the tire will determine that dimension, so it should be pretty much the same for any size properly adjusted tire on the same car.

[freebird_78]

I think you're missing something here. By your logic, a 4 inch wide tire would have the same contact patch as an 8 inch wide tire. I haven't seen the article, but I will bet money they were talking about the depth of the patch, not the width. Remember that the patch is more or less rectangular. The depth of it front to back will not vary for the very reasons you state, but the width of the patch has to change to reflect the wider tread area. A properly adjusted tire will put the entire (flat) tread width to the ground. More tread equals wider contact patch. Because the front to back is defined by an arc (round tire), the pressure of the weight of the car pushing down against the air in the tire will determine that dimension, so it should be pretty much the same for any size properly adjusted tire on the same car.


Area = length X width

Area = weight / pressure

Therefore:

Length X Width = Weight / Pressure

And if Weight and Pressure are consant, and if width is increased, length must decrease to keep area constant (inversely proportional).

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=38946&page=1&highlight=Wider+Tires+Provide+Traction

[mazdaspeed32007]

Area = length X width

Area = weight / pressure

Therefore:

Length X Width = Weight / Pressure

And if Weight and Pressure are consant, and if width is increased, length must decrease to keep area constant (inversely proportional).

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=38946&page=1&highlight=Wider+Tires+Provide+Traction"

i think i understand. so if the tires become wider, the contact patch size is negated by the length if all else stays constant. i think thats whats being said.

either that or the width is increased but the length of the contact patch stays the same.

[freebird_78]

i think i understand. so if the tires become wider, the contact patch size is negated by the length if all else stays constant. i think thats whats being said.

either that or the width is increased but the length of the contact patch stays the same.

The first one is correct.

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

I followed the link to the other thread and the guy is being misquoted. He did not say that increasing tire width does not help. He did say that as you increase the width, you will eventually get to a point where the additional width provides no effective increase in traction. The old "Law of diminishing returns" coming into play.
Does anyone have a link to the Car & Driver article? I would love to see what they had to say.

[mazdaspeed32007]

yea thats what i was saying originally. once you reach a point mathematically where the weight of the car can no longer meet the tires ability to keep increasing the contact patch then your just putting on a bigger tire for nothing.

[freebird_78]

Where is the misquote?

Strait from the link:
"CHANGING TO A WIDER TIRE WON'T INCREASE THE CONTACT PATCH; IT WILL ONLY CHANGE THE SHAPE OF THE CONTACT PATCH"

Its simple math (see my previous post for equations). Better yet, READ the link.

[mazdaspeed32007]

i read about 10 posts to that thread and this is what i feel is the best explaination to that article. (supposedly outdated)

"The way I understand it (and how it was basically explained by one of my ME prof's, that is if I remember it correctly) is that when the tire deflects in response to a load (lateral, acceleration, etc) that the wider/bigger tire has more tire to deflect to before traction is lost. As you're basically spreading the forces out over a larger piece of rubber, each individual piece has to do less work to provide the same amount of grip and therefore it would take more force to break the tires loose."

I believe that at a certain point between weight/tire size you will meet an end where you will recieve no more traction due to the size of the contact patch. The amount of weight each tire needs to deflect will be different. It will go down as the tire gets bigger until you reach a point where the contact patch wont change. liek if you have a tire thats 215 that deflects 600 lbs and has a contact patch of 9.5 inches. a 225 will deflect the same amount of weight but over a larger surface giving the contact patch 10 inches. but lets say you put on a 235 and it has a contact patch of 10 inches, well thats where you found the cars maximum tire grip. once you hit a point where the weight can no longer effect the tires contact patch, youve reached its maximum weight/contact. does that make sense to anyone? im usually no good at explaining things.

[Swerny]

So, is anyone here running 225-40-18 rubber on the OEM MS3 rims?

I'm looking to pick up a set of the rims for the 3 Sport I'll be getting soon and want to run that size (closest to the OEM size of 205-50-17).

I have read on several sites that a minimum 7.5 inch wide wheel is required.

Thanks

[squabbin]

I personally am not yet, however I have just purchased a set of 225/40/18 Pirelli Winter 210 SnowSport's that i'll be using during the colder snowy months here in NJ and from everything i've read 225/40/18 should be no problem whatsoever on the stock MS3 rims.

[mazdaspeed32007]

i just bought a new set of rims 7.5 and bought a 225-40-18 falken 452. sweet ass tire. def worth it. it will fit on the stock rim and i highly suggest it.

[ericrapp]

So, is anyone here running 225-40-18 rubber on the OEM MS3 rims?

I'm looking to pick up a set of the rims for the 3 Sport I'll be getting soon and want to run that size (closest to the OEM size of 205-50-17).

I have read on several sites that a minimum 7.5 inch wide wheel is required.

Thanks
You probably know that the Mazdaspeed 3 has 215/45/18 on the 7" wheel. The 225 is a bit much. I am running Nitto- 555 at 225/40/18 on an 18 x 8 wheel, if you want traction and are wiiling to sacrifice longevity this might work.

[ericrapp]

i just bought a new set of rims 7.5 and bought a 225-40-18 falken 452. sweet ass tire. def worth it. it will fit on the stock rim and i highly suggest it.

Excellent tire and good fitment. Bring on the hairpin turns!

[SSMS3]

Diameter should also be considered since it changes your effective gear ratio and speedo/odo. Stock tires are 25.7"

[mazdaspeed32007]

Diameter should also be considered since it changes your effective gear ratio and speedo/odo. Stock tires are 25.7"

?what? diameter with the 18 inch rim and 40 mm sidewall is 21.2 inches which is my current set-up with the new rims. the stock 18 inch rim and 45 mm sidewall is 21.6 inches total diameter.

i may be doing the math wrong or something but where did you get the 25.7"?

the difference inbetween the 21.2 and 21.6 has little effect on the speedo/odometer in any case.

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

There seem to be a lot of guys (and maybe ladies) that are puzzled by the tire manufacturers' recommended rim widths. Remember that different tires of the same size may have different sidewall designs. Some are reinforced, some aren't. This means that some can be compressed onto a smaller rim or stretched for a larger rim while others can't, because the sidewalls have different levels of flexibility.
Someone stated that the factory tires are 215/40/18. This is incorrect. The factory tires are 215/45/18.
I'm sticking with 225/40/18 as my replacements because I want to keep the suspension geometry as close to stock as possible, and these will fit the stock rims or aftermarket rims with a similar offset. They are very close in diameter to factory and there are many more options in that size than there are in the factory size.
I just put a set of Kumho (sp?) all seasons on the factory rims which will be my winter tires. As soon as I have the money, Falken 615s in the same size are going on wider (and lighter) rims for the summer.

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

?what? diameter with the 18 inch rim and 40 mm sidewall is 21.2 inches which is my current set-up with the new rims. the stock 18 inch rim and 45 mm sidewall is 21.6 inches total diameter.

i may be doing the math wrong or something but where did you get the 25.7"?

the difference inbetween the 21.2 and 21.6 has little effect on the speedo/odometer in any case.

Using a tire calculator, the factory size comes out to 25.6". 25.7" is close enough allowing for tread thickness variations between manufacturers.

I can't figure out what math you did to come up with 21", as adding 40mm to 18" should yield roughly 19.6". (40/25.4=1.6___18+1.6=19.6). It's moot anyway, as that isn't how it works.

The 40 and 45 are not mm, they are %. The sidewall is rated as being a certain percentage of the width of the tire. This is why a 235/40/18 is taller than a 215/40/18, because 40% of 235 is greater than 40% of 215, so the sidewall is a little bigger. It's why when we go to a wider tire, we need to drop the perentage from 45 to 40 to keep the overall diameter of the tire close to stock.

[mazdaspeed32007]

ahhhhh. thanks for the knowledge. i honestly thought it was based on mm to how large the sidewall was not the % of the width to sidewall.
thanks bub.

oh as adding 40mm to 18 i added the 40mm 2x because you have tire on both sides of the tire. i honestly thought thats how it worked. sorry for my slight retarded-ness. i know somethings here and there but i learn something new on cars at least once a day. im getting better everyday.


Using a tire calculator, the factory size comes out to 25.6". 25.7" is close enough allowing for tread thickness variations between manufacturers.

I can't figure out what math you did to come up with 21", as adding 40mm to 18" should yield roughly 19.6". (40/25.4=1.6___18+1.6=19.6). It's moot anyway, as that isn't how it works.

The 40 and 45 are not mm, they are %. The sidewall is rated as being a certain percentage of the width of the tire. This is why a 235/40/18 is taller than a 215/40/18, because 40% of 235 is greater than 40% of 215, so the sidewall is a little bigger. It's why when we go to a wider tire, we need to drop the perentage from 45 to 40 to keep the overall diameter of the tire close to stock.

[Gmac03]

just picked up a set of falkens rt615's
225/40/18
I always go to vulcantire.com typically I can't find a better price

Gmac

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

oh as adding 40mm to 18 i added the 40mm 2x because you have tire on both sides of the tire.

Damnit! I can't believe I overlooked that. I'm supposed to be a certified genius and I missed something very basic there, so don't beat yourself up too much.

[mazdaspeed32007]

just picked up a set of falkens rt615's
225/40/18
I always go to vulcantire.com typically I can't find a better price

Gmac

good luck with getting more than 12000 miles out of those tires man. thats a soft ass tire. youll be the stickiest kid in the east tho. lol.

[Gmac03]

yup best tires to run. best of both worlds. sticky and street.

[mazdaspeed32007]

yup best tires to run. best of both worlds. sticky and street.

i can get about 20000 out of mine with great traction. i travel to much for the 615's so i went with the 452's. if you put on only 12000 a year then sweetness. i get about 20000 a year so....:(

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

I told my wife RT615s are Summer tires and she should expect me to buy a new set every year. She rolled her eyes and basically said, "okay, if that's what you want." God I love that woman. Now if I can only scrape up the cash for some damn rims!
I found a set from an OZ based manufacturer that I like that weigh 19.2 pounds and the whole set with mounting kit (lugs, etc) can be had, delivered, for $570 or so, but they are 7.5 and I really want 8.0. Anybody find any seriously sweet deals on rims to go with these tires?

[squabbin]

I told my wife RT615s are Summer tires and she should expect me to buy a new set every year. She rolled her eyes and basically said, "okay, if that's what you want." God I love that woman. Now if I can only scrape up the cash for some damn rims!
I found a set from an OZ based manufacturer that I like that weigh 19.2 pounds and the whole set with mounting kit (lugs, etc) can be had, delivered, for $570 or so, but they are 7.5 and I really want 8.0. Anybody find any seriously sweet deals on rims to go with these tires?

I'm in the middle of picking rims as well. Its tough to find an 18x8" under 20 pounds in general, nevermind at a reasonable price.

[MS3077]

Where is a good place to get good wheels / tires on the cheap?

[tandman]

Try eastcoasttires.com they have some good deals and some even better deals through their ebay store.

[mazdaspeed32007]

i bought mine at stagefourmotorsports. the guy was real nice. got em quick. around 600-700 or something for some rota tarmac 3's 18x7.5. these guys sell a helluva lot of rotas i know for sure they might have what you need? (shrug)

[MS3077]

i bought mine at stagefourmotorsports. the guy was real nice. got em quick. around 600-700 or something for some rota tarmac 3's 18x7.5. these guys sell a helluva lot of rotas i know for sure they might have what you need? (shrug)

Do you have a pic of you MS3 with them?

[Gmac03]

I would say Rota or Konig, for cheap, semi decent looking rims that are moderately priced and of decent weight.

Gmac

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

One of the members got a set of nice looking rims made by a company called Speedy Wheels. They are light and very affordable, but does anybody know them by reputation?

[ericrapp]

Mine were supplied buy Element Wheels. and i must argue the East coast sticky. But if I can have the Northeast or the Stickiest old guy in the East? Spent some quality time with the new Nitto's today and they are all I hoped, Just warm them abit first. The Falken is all that too, I bet. That Sppedy thread must still exist, I do recall the subject being discussed.

[MS3077]

Thanks for all the feedback dudes!

[blacksheepms3]

u guys tell me....rota wheels P1 18x8 with kumho ecsta spt, mounted, balanced, shipped, lug nuts included for 1300...is that a good deal? that's what i have.

[ericrapp]

Do not forget the tpms. Just learned this the harder way.

[Gmac03]

Thats a good deal. You're looking at 750 for the rims, tires about 100 a piece, lugs will at a minimum be about 30 or 40, unless you get nice anodized ones. Mount and balance will be around 50-60....so...

750
400
40
+ 60
1250

Not to mention shipping, you're right on the money. You would think for buying all of that through one company that they could cut you a bit more of a break, but otherwise it's a good deal.

Gmac

[Gmac03]

Yeah do make sure you have the tpms' in there. I just had my local shop do the wheels for me, so when they did they just swapped over the tpms' into the aftermarket wheels.

The stock wheels will be the ones I race with, and they will be run for such a short period of time that I wont have the tpms' in there.

ericrapp unless there is something I need to know about not running with the tpms' in the tires? I wouldn't hurt performance in anyway, right? Just throw a light?

Gmac

[ericrapp]

As far as I can tell It seemed fine. I used to be able to annihilate second gear at will. No more. the car has serious traction now. But I have now messed up the process. I Put on tire wheel combo friday, all very nice and drove about an 3 hours today. Forge and tubes arrived later today and I installed ASAP! Car is fine and I will reinstall tpms at next tire change. You are fine and good luck!

[dkswim]

OT but interesting. corvets have a tpms type sensors in there wheels. if any of the sensors are not working right or they indicate a lower then required pressure the stability system can't be turned off.

[Gmac03]

Yeah with a friends yukon denali, when the tpms' are messed up it wont let you get on it, sort of goes into a limp mode.

Gmac

[blacksheepms3]

i didnt get my tpms installed in my new tires because i was using the wheels at the time and my package came from wheeldude...the light gets tripped, it blinks for a minute or two after u start the car then it becomes solid. It doesnt bother me, it doesnt affect performance, i'm still able to turn off stability AND traction control.

i saved about 5.8 lbs on each corner from lighter wheels. Well, it's good to know i had a good deal. I'm liking the hyperblack, but sometimes wished i went with sports bronze. Thanks gmac for the little accounting and justification. hehehe

[mazdaspeed32007]

Do you have a pic of you MS3 with them?

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[ericrapp]

I wont look stupi ...I like the way it will look
http://vortex3.rely.net/gallery/albums//Events/Enthusiast/Waterfest/2005/A4%20Golf-Jetta-GTI/021.jpg
ITS A VERY EASY WAY TO STRECH THE TIRES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xwfDEtk-R8&feature=related

There is alot of euro tuners who use this method and it can be pretty cool. I purchased a wider wheel, Tenzo dc-5 18x8 Just so I could add some width for Nitto. my goal was high speed stability. You are maybe more cruiser and thats cool too! Do what you like . no rub no foul. Pm me pics if when you get these!

[Conso]

just got some p zero rossas put on today, not spinning in first almost makes me wanna cry tears of joy

[ericrapp]

Wow, that is a serious tire! Do not forget the tears of sadness no more at will smoke show either! I will not ask how much they cost, but....