staggered wheels?

[trufanatic]

can staggered wheels fit the MS3. 18x8.5 and 18x9.5 in the rear? stock suspension with no rubbing?

[Rotus8]

Why would you do this? It's the front that needs more traction.

[jred321]

i didn't know the MS3 was rwd

[trufanatic]

i saw a tsx and a TL with staggereds and lowered and i have to say, despite the fact their fwd the were sexy as hell.

ok fine...nevermind (spin)

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

Why would you do this? It's the front that needs more traction.

For looks obviously.
Considering how often these tires need to be rotated to keep even wear, I wouldn't do it.

Edit: Damn! Timing is everything.

[justanothermp5]

yea the car is fwd but have u ever seen someone stagger the rims to where there bigger in front? no, because it looks dumb, 8.5 in the front is plenty rubber to handle the power the ms3 has
and no rubbing, prob not, ive never seen anyone with 9.5 inch wheels that didnt need some fender rolling/trimming

[jred321]

yea the car is fwd but have u ever seen someone stagger the rims to where there bigger in front? no, because it looks dumb
personally i think it also looks dumb when a FWD car has larger wheels in the back than in the front

[wisniaPl]

its all abou look most of people dont know if the car is fwd or rwd because they are stupid (pedestrians)

[Rotus8]

its all abou look most of people dont know if the car is fwd or rwd because they are stupid (pedestrians)
Who would you rather impress? Stupid pedestrians or people who actually might care?

[absolutamente]

Yeah, I mean, come on...

[wisniaPl]

I like the look on my friend vw but there are couple issues
1) u have to rool the fenders
2) u must have stiff suspension as shit so u wont rub
3) its pain in the ass if u aredaily driving or racing or driving fast
thats why i wont do it because its good for show cars

[ericrapp]

From what I have read on the forum in most cases the rear wheel rubs first when mods are made. The widest tire we run in the back will decide the widest tire balance for street and higher speed cornering so maybe it is good to know how much rear tire can fit, without rolling rear fenders, on stock suspension.

[jp4130]

Why would you do this? It's the front that needs more traction.

He might have some strange fetish for understeer. (dunno)

[ericrapp]

He might have some strange fetish for understeer. (dunno)

And it certainly needs more of that dialed in haha

[Bufalo]

I won't even throw out the fact that staggered wheels on a front-drive car is foolish (ooh... there I just did...) I can't imagine you'd ever fit a 9.5" wheel in the rear wheel wells of this car. You can only fit about three-quarters of an inch out towards the fender before it rubs, which means you'd have to stuff the extra 1.75" back towards the suspension. Yeah, right. Plus, wtf tire width would you put on a wheel that wide that wouldn't rub everything in there?

[wisniaPl]

its not folish its a style that all vw guys follow I would love to have wheels like this on my ms3
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/wisnia628/rims.jpg its sexy

[Bufalo]

its not folish its a style that all vw guys follow



(lol)(lol)(lol)(screwy)(screwy)



I always thought its hilarious how people say about staggered wheels on a front drive car are "not about performance, they're about aesthetics," when the fact is that it looks AWFUL.

[wisniaPl]

I like it.everyone have their own opinion

[happy and angry]

If you do this to your car I may have to find out where you live and reposess the car on behalf of Mazda for your horrible butchering of the car.

It'll rub everything under your fender, and serve no practical purpose. You're not even going for a bigger diameter wheel in the back, so it's not like anyone is actually going to notice except for you. And those that do notice are going to either tell you how 2 Fast 2 Furious your car is, or make fun of you (or both!).

[ericrapp]

You would have to use smaller diameter tire and wheel to acheive that stance an d avoid too much rub.

[wisniaPl]

7.5 with is to small?? cany i put 235 tires on it??

[ericrapp]

7.5 with is to small?? cany i put 235 tires on it??

I mean like 235/35/17s or 16s with a helluva offset. gotta go small with the tall part of the wheel to go wide, and you will need to move the center of the wheel to the outside of the car so you dont rub spring and stuff. Just remember this set up is only for looks and low speed cruisin'. I don't know of any air ride setups for this model yet. But you might want a body work guy to open up the fenders if you want to slam it.

[NYSP33D3]

ive got 18x8.5 +35 18x9.5+37 work meisters on the way, no fear..the fender roller is here.

ill keep you guys posted

[wisniaPl]

ive got 18x8.5 +35 18x9.5+37 work meisters on the way, no fear..the fender roller is here.

ill keep you guys posted

post pics

[ericrapp]

post pics

Ditto What brand of tires?

[NYSP33D3]

teaser
http://www.upgarage.com/upgarage/gazou/0712/0712125001618/0712125001618s0.jpg

[wisniaPl]

lloking good I wanted do the same but not with such a harcore offset i want see them on the car

[ericrapp]

Love the Works. I will have a set. someday. Wheels look intense. Weight?

[NYSP33D3]

Im pretty sure i could get lower offsets than that to fit, but as im the first one ive seen around trying these sizes im going to place it safe and if i can fit them ill get spacers down the road.

[wisniaPl]

they will stick out of the fender mine witt 38mm offset will

[NYSP33D3]

they will stick out of the fender mine will 38mm offset a lil bit

i cant even decipher that one

[SpcyOrngMSP]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/gENERIX_/HatchBlend.jpg
teh sex

[NYSP33D3]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/gENERIX_/HatchBlend.jpg
teh sex

soon, very soon.

[ericrapp]

Wow, wow.......

[wisniaPl]

but when I said that I like stagereed wheels all people start saying crap about me hah

[jp4130]

ive got 18x8.5 +35 18x9.5+37 work meisters on the way, no fear..the fender roller is here.

ill keep you guys posted

Please do not do this to your car.(headshake

[LilZoom]

I think it depends on the look of the car my fiance has them on his VW and I've seen some other VW's with them on it too, I would never put them on mine because it wouldn't look right but I like them on his.

Different car, different look is my opinion.

[SpcyOrngMSP]

do it, be different... i'm curious as to what it would look like but i think it will look nice

[NYSP33D3]

Please do not do this to your car.(headshake
Why not??? Stay with your little 7.5's 18x8.5 and 18x 9.5 is Flush and F****** hot.. If anything ill gain a little more traction. I understand the cars FWD, but what do you think is wrong with this set-up?

[jp4130]

Why not??? Stay with your little 7.5's 18x8.5 and 18x 9.5 is Flush and F****** hot.. If anything ill gain a little more traction. I understand the cars FWD, but what do you think is wrong with this set-up?

7.5''?
I have 18''x8.5'' wheels on my car, probably the first on here with that width. My problem with this is, form should always follow fuction. Are you willing to live terminal understeer to get that staggered look? To each his own, I guess.

[Rotus]

Check out axis wheels. With the Maxxis system, you can have wheels that are the same size tire front and back, but because they have high and low pad versions of the same tire, you can have a staggered look without messing with the car's handling.

http://www.axiswheels.com/axis_wheels_weights_and_lips.php

[ericrapp]

We are all just concerned that if you guys set your car up this way, you might make the turning not as good as it is now. If it is for looks cool, I like that VW.peace

[ProtoType5]

Staggered wheels on a 4-door front wheel drive car = Not cool....but that just my opinion..and it doesn't matter what kind of car..

It's you're car...If you're gonna get offended by people saying it'll be lame...don't ask for peoples opinions...especially on da internets...

[astraelraen]

Whats up with the new style of having tires not big enough for your rims? IMO it looks ugly as hell to have your tires not at least coming to the edge of your rim.

[wisniaPl]

Staggered wheels on a 4-door front wheel drive car = Not cool....but that just my opinion..and it doesn't matter what kind of car..

It's you're car...If you're gonna get offended by people saying it'll be lame...don't ask for peoples opinions...especially on da internets...

what 4 doors have in common with stagered wheels??(boom07)

[ProtoType5]

what 4 doors have in common with stagered wheels??(boom07)

They should have NOTHING in common...Looks lame pretty much all 4 door cars...even if you put them on a new M5...I would consider it lame..

This is a 2-door RWD style...should have been kept that way...

[wisniaPl]

They should have NOTHING in common...Looks lame pretty much all 4 door cars...even if you put them on a new M5...I would consider it lame..

This is a 2-door RWD style...should have been kept that way...

2-dor rwd since when?? World is changing you have to move one(hippy)
jk no offense

[ProtoType5]

I'm stuck in the past...Hell my cars a '02...what do you expect

[SpcyOrngMSP]

They should have NOTHING in common...Looks lame pretty much all 4 door cars...even if you put them on a new M5...I would consider it lame..

This is a 2-door RWD style...should have been kept that way...

m5's come from the factory with a staggered setup if i recall correctly, i think it looks awesome on any car if its done right and not riced out... especially vw's and audis.. i'm curious as to see what the 3 is going to look like with this kind of a setup since they kind of have similar lines to the mk4 gti (at least i think so)

[Rotus]

Whats up with the new style of having tires not big enough for your rims? IMO it looks ugly as hell to have your tires not at least coming to the edge of your rim.

Not really new. It's called Stretch and Poke and it's been in the VAG (VW Audi Group) community for some time now. It's not my cup of tea, tho.

[ProtoType5]

Saw a "Stretched and Poked" VW GTI.... I couldn't stop laughing...It looks like hell...If it even looked good, I would be more accepting of it, but it just looks terrible...

So where's the Staggered MS3 at???? I want to see this trainwreck...and I'm proud to see there is a P5 in the mixed to be "stretched and Poked...

[vel]

I dont know. This staggered look is hot!! However sounds like a world of trouble for the mazda. The whole idea with the staggered is to have that fat lip on the back wheel. If its show, freakin go for it. if its your DD, give up the idea. unless you get that 5series :)

[BlueWolfCry]

agree staggered is sexy, but when ppl know for a fact the car is fwd, it just makes the owner look dumb. I saw a golf today with a nice body kit and nice staggered, deep dish rims. Hot car, but dumb ass

[FrequentFlyer]

I've read numorous posts in this thread about it looking stupid on a FWD, but what about the fact that the car's suspension was tuned for a specific sized wheel/tire combo and it could prove to be dangerous to change the geometry. Maybe not during everyday grandma driving, but if for some reason you need to react quickly to avoid some numbnut pulling into your lane, the car may not handle the way you'd expect it to. If you want something that looks cool, why not go wider all around? At least then you'll be able to rotate tires. I had an S2000 that came from factory with a staggered setup and it got abit expensive when I was on my 3rd set of tires in just over 40k miles, which may have been stretched abit if I were able to rotate them. I was running 225/45-17 in the front and 255/40-17's in the back. I went through my OE RE050's on that car in less than 20k, miles. Not cheap.

[jeffmsp]

ultra rice attempt. instead of throwing your money out the window on paul walker mods like this why not spend it on something good? if you think your going to turn heads with staggered wheels on a fwd its because people will be laughing at you not because they think its cool. sorry but its the truth.

why not put some fake hood and roof scoops on while your at it

[pointysticks]

ultra rice attempt. instead of throwing your money out the window on paul walker mods like this why not spend it on something good? if you think your going to turn heads with staggered wheels on a fwd its because people will be laughing at you not because they think its cool. sorry but its the truth.

why not put some fake hood and roof scoops on while your at it

ouch! but true. it is your car, and you asked for an opinion, on a public forum from some of the most sarcastic, harsh fools out there. i think staggered wheels on the MS3 would scream "poseur". i wouldn't do it. to much value in rotating the tires.