Look at this compare from Nissan Murano? [Archive]

nguvanh

03-09-2008, 05:42 AM

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/nissan/VehicleComparison?NissanSessionId=null&op=0&tab=advantage&isbasecar=true&modelid=&styleid=&refid=&maxvehicles=3&vehicleindex=&removestyle=&numCars=2&just=left&modelId0=100523692&styleId0=100980475&modelId1=100523979&styleId1=100909800
How dare they say our CX-9 like that?

todd92

03-09-2008, 08:49 AM

3rd seat Murano not available. Comparison over.

However, it does point out again the glaring omissions on the CX-9. The exterior mirrors don't move with the memory seats, they do on every other car I've owned. Of course that's when the CX-9 even keeps the memory settings. No trip computer. Can't open the power hatch with the key without double unlocking 1st. Can't program the nav at all while the car is moving. Idiot chime goes off when car is exited with headlights in auto mode.

Most of this is due to lawyers being on the design team. What a blunder.

But thank god the Murano has a chrome grill and simulated wood interior trim...advantage Nissan!

Maxx Mazda

03-09-2008, 12:45 PM

Ya that comparo is obviously skewed. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. They pick and choose features that give "advantage nissan" but if you ask me, the CX-7 is more comparable, the Murano doesn't even have a 3rd row...

Ron21

03-09-2008, 02:57 PM

. Idiot chime goes off when car is exited with headlights in auto mode.

Doesn't happen here. (CX-9 GT AWD)

As for the comparison this is my favorite part :

Cargo Volume/Max Luggage Capacity (Nissian) 31.6 cu. ft. (CX-9) 17.2 cu. ft.

No where did they mention that it's 17.2 with the third row up.

Force-1

03-09-2008, 03:37 PM

todd92

03-09-2008, 05:01 PM

Doesn't happen here. (CX-9 GT AWD)

As for the comparison this is my favorite part :

Cargo Volume/Max Luggage Capacity (Nissian) 31.6 cu. ft. (CX-9) 17.2 cu. ft.

No where did they mention that it's 17.2 with the third row up.

When you leave the vehicle, in the dark, and the headlights are still on in the auto mode and turn themselves off after the 30 sec delay, the headlight on tone is NOT going off in your car? It has been discussed before it and is pretty universal.

Ron21

03-09-2008, 05:51 PM

When you leave the vehicle, in the dark, and the headlights are still on in the auto mode and turn themselves off after the 30 sec delay, the headlight on tone is NOT going off in your car? It has been discussed before it and is pretty universal.

No, I don't have the tone. I've heard of this issue from other forums but I believe it is corrected in recent 08 models. I picked up the CX-9 a week ago.

Force-1

03-09-2008, 07:18 PM

When you leave the vehicle, in the dark, and the headlights are still on in the auto mode and turn themselves off after the 30 sec delay, the headlight on tone is NOT going off in your car? It has been discussed before it and is pretty universal.

I don't have that issue either. My headlights always turn on automatically when I pull into my garage, and they turn off a bit after I lock the doors. I don't get any sort of buzz, tone, alert, etc.

Mazda3

03-09-2008, 08:17 PM

LOL!!

They are really grasping at straws and manipulating the facts to make it seem like the Murano is even in the same class as the CX-9.

Murano compares to the CX-7 and is grossly overpriced. No comparison to the CX-9 at all.

clarko

03-10-2008, 05:42 AM

Why does it say NO trip computer, my CX9 certainly has it?
Did it mention HP? or Wheelsize?

Its all just............................

CRAPP

Ron21

03-10-2008, 08:12 AM

Why does it say NO trip computer, my CX9 certainly has it?
Did it mention HP? or Wheelsize?

Its all just...........................

CRAPP

Unfortunately the U.S version does not have a trip computer.. (headshake

broomco

03-10-2008, 09:10 AM

Unfortunately the U.S version does not have a trip computer.. (headshake

Maybe the earlier versions didn't, buy my 08 GT does. 2 in fact.

Ron21

03-10-2008, 09:32 AM

Maybe the earlier versions didn't, buy my 08 GT does. 2 in fact.

"A trip computer is an onboard computer device fitted to cars which can generally record distance travelled, average speed, average fuel consumption, and display real time fuel consumption information. This computer can be found in various vehicles. Thus sometimes called the "car calculator", it can be very handy on long trips."

You have that in your CX-9?

kosh2258

03-10-2008, 09:50 AM

Maybe the earlier versions didn't, buy my 08 GT does. 2 in fact.

Sounds to me like you're referring to the trip odometers, A and B. But that isn't a trip computer with function like the above post mentions.

The powertrain control module has the data available but Mazda failed to provide a way to display the information.

Ted

Mazda3

03-10-2008, 01:03 PM

A trip computer wouldn't factor into my vehicle decision in any way shape or form. Neither would power memory mirrors. Nice trivial things to have, but wouldn't sway me from the superior driving vehicle.

clarko

03-10-2008, 02:48 PM

"A trip computer is an onboard computer device fitted to cars which can generally record distance travelled, average speed, average fuel consumption, and display real time fuel consumption information. This computer can be found in various vehicles. Thus sometimes called the "car calculator", it can be very handy on long trips."

You have that in your CX-9?

YES, mine DOES have that.

I can choose a display of either:

Clock
Time travelled
Range (how many Km left in the tank)
Average speed travelled
Average fuel consumption (L/100km)
Instant fuel consumption (L/100km)

I didn't realize we actually had something over here that you guys don't.(mj)

I noticed that Nissan said we only have 6 speakers also???

I know over here we have 10 including the Subwoofer (band2)

jabba

03-10-2008, 04:45 PM

I still don't understand why the US-bound CX-9s don't have a trip computer. Is it that we are too "obtuse" to know how to use it properly? Or is it that they don't want us to easily know how bad our gas mileage really is? (ha-ha!)

broomco

03-10-2008, 05:51 PM

Sounds to me like you're referring to the trip odometers, A and B. But that isn't a trip computer with function like the above post mentions.

The powertrain control module has the data available but Mazda failed to provide a way to display the information.

Ted

Yes, you are right. I guess I wasn't clear on the terminology. Trip odometers A and B work well enough for my needs....

todd92

03-10-2008, 06:14 PM

Same reason the nav locks down when moving. The nanny lawyers decided it's just to risky to have a distraction like a trip computer. F Ford and Mazda on this one.

jabba

03-10-2008, 08:41 PM

The nanny lawyers decided it's just to risky to have a distraction like a trip computer.

Next on their list: the ability to tune your radio (don't laugh, I believe the the Acadia's Sirius system is limited when you are moving).

Actually, come to think of it, the darn Sirius (non-NAV) on my CX-9 would actually be more dangerous than a trip computer: I constantly have to look at that screen to scroll through categories, since there is no way to direct input (as far as I know).

kosh2258

03-11-2008, 12:36 PM

YES, mine DOES have that.

I can choose a display of either:

Clock
Time travelled
Range (how many Km left in the tank)
Average speed travelled
Average fuel consumption (L/100km)
Instant fuel consumption (L/100km)

I didn't realize we actually had something over here that you guys don't.(mj)

I noticed that Nissan said we only have 6 speakers also???

I know over here we have 10 including the Subwoofer (band2)

Where does the trip computer data display? On the instrument panel or on the center stack? I'm very curious as to where they implemented it.

Ted

Ron21

03-11-2008, 01:31 PM

I just went to the Mazda Australian website and it says the price is : 57,000.00 AUD which equals 52,786.70 USD??? Am I understanding this right?

Maybe thats why you guys get a trip computer (wow)

SydneyGuy

03-11-2008, 05:10 PM

Yes those prices are right. We get ripped off royally here in Australia when it comes to buy cars. I'd happily give up the car computer if I could have bought my CX-9 for the US price!!!!!

clarko

03-12-2008, 05:57 AM

Where does the trip computer data display? On the instrument panel or on the center stack? I'm very curious as to where they implemented it.

Ted

It is in the red lit up section at the top of the centre consul (above the centre vents)

I imagine your clock is probably there?

CX-901

03-12-2008, 07:41 PM

It is in the red lit up section at the top of the centre consul (above the centre vents)

I imagine your clock is probably there?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/bayonic/IMG_1221.jpg

brightwhite

03-13-2008, 07:36 AM

Oddly, my CX-9 GT has no trip computer, but my 3GT which costs half as much does!

There is no comparison between a CX-9 and the Murano at all.

kosh2258

03-13-2008, 10:37 AM

It is in the red lit up section at the top of the centre consul (above the centre vents)

I imagine your clock is probably there?

You are correct, that's where the clock is on US spec 9's. Apparently Mazda must think American's are more intrested in clock watching than being able to monitor our fuel economy and other useful information. (huh)

Newsflash. No, we're not. (protest) At least not all of us.

Ted

clarko

03-13-2008, 02:42 PM

nacra55uni

03-13-2008, 02:56 PM

Now the big question....

Can the US vehicles be updated?

Also, holding the outside temp button for 2 sec. will switch between between Metric and English for temp reading.

nacra55uni

03-13-2008, 02:59 PM

Another question:

What button is used to scroll throught the various trip computer variables?

SydneyGuy

03-13-2008, 05:08 PM

Another question:

What button is used to scroll throught the various trip computer variables?

The "Info" button is used to cycle between the various trip computer readouts and the clock.

Whilst I love having the trip computer it annoys me that it displays its information in the same spot as the clock meaning that you can't display the time and the computer info at the same time. Meanwhile, the top display wastes space displaying information about the radio station/CD track etc when it is also displayed on the large LCD. They should have just left the audio system information on the LCD and put a permanent clock on the upper display. Or perhaps put a permanent clock somewhere on the LCD.

clarko

03-14-2008, 03:33 AM

Now the big question....

Can the US vehicles be updated?

Also, holding the outside temp button for 2 sec. will switch between between Metric and English for temp reading.

Does'nt work for me.(scratch)

clarko

03-14-2008, 03:40 AM

I agree 100% with Sydney Guy.

Heres what the Ozzie version looks like............

CX-901

03-14-2008, 10:59 AM

Hey there CX901,
My read out is the same as yours except everything is on opposite sides (right hand drive) and my temperature is in Celsius (not fahrenheit), but the other BIG difference is my fuel consumption average is usually between 12-14L/100km, not 29.7L/100km, I mean to say WHATS going on there?
Do you tow a 4ton boat around everywhere or what?

Howdy Clarko,
That picture was taken less than an hour after I got my CX9 from the dealership... still haven't figured out how to change the temperature unit and my Ave Consumption is still not to be trusted.
now after 4000 kilometers, my ave consumption is anywhere between 14 to 20 L/100 km depending on the traffic conditions of the gigantic parking lot that is the streets of Manila (ugh)

wow ... they re-arrange the display as well depending on whether its a RHD or a LHD ...

live2ski

03-14-2008, 02:06 PM

wow ... they re-arrange the display as well depending on whether its a RHD or a LHD ...

At least they didn't switch any of the center display buttons (especially the Power/Vol knob) for RHD. It seems much more ergonomic than the US version. I've got to reach across the dash to turn the radio on.

IanKen

03-15-2008, 12:03 AM

When you leave the vehicle, in the dark, and the headlights are still on in the auto mode and turn themselves off after the 30 sec delay, the headlight on tone is NOT going off in your car? It has been discussed before it and is pretty universal.

Nope. 08 GT AWD. No chime on exit with auto head lanmps enhabled.

Born2Drive

03-23-2008, 11:51 PM

OMG I love Murano. I traded mine 03 SE for CX-9. My wife still looks at each Murano passing by. But it does not mean we are unhappy with CX9. I am not sorry for buying it, I like everything in my CX. But this list is just pissing me off, it is TOTAL BS. How could that post something like that? Will Mazda sue them for this??

nate0123

03-24-2008, 12:07 AM

lmao

Height http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/products/nvc/nissan/media/nissan-logo-adv_17x16.gif 68.1 in. 68 in.

it's .1 in taller and that's an advantage? is taller even better?

mainerunr

04-01-2008, 12:56 PM

I think that link is a bit deceiving, as it's not Edmund's making the comparison--it's Nissan, linked to the Nissan web site. You can also compare it against RDX, Enclave, and RAV 4. Surprise! Murano beats all of them too! Of course Nissan will give an advantage to their vehicle everywhere they can.

and Mazda will do the same as will Honda, subaru, toyota, ford, chevy, etc.

having driven both (although only a couple test-drives in each), the engine in the murano is more refined...also doesnt cost $5k to replace an xfer case.

I wouldnt expect anything different than the responses here as this is a mazda forum but keep in mind, the folks on the other side of things would be making similar arguments about the 'advantages' given to the mazda. Human nature to think what you have is better.

Mazda3

04-02-2008, 11:25 AM

and Mazda will do the same as will Honda, subaru, toyota, ford, chevy, etc.

having driven both (although only a couple test-drives in each), the engine in the murano is more refined...also doesnt cost $5k to replace an xfer case.

I wouldnt expect anything different than the responses here as this is a mazda forum but keep in mind, the folks on the other side of things would be making similar arguments about the 'advantages' given to the mazda. Human nature to think what you have is better.

Well....IMO the Mazda motor is more refined. The Murano is a decent vehicle, but it's no comparison to the CX-9. The Murano competes with the CX-7, the CX-9 is a full class above the Murano and has it beat in everyway. In Canada the Murano is way overpriced as well, its $10k more than the CX-7.

mainerunr

04-02-2008, 01:11 PM

Well....IMO the Mazda motor is more refined. The Murano is a decent vehicle, but it's no comparison to the CX-9. The Murano competes with the CX-7, the CX-9 is a full class above the Murano and has it beat in everyway. In Canada the Murano is way overpriced as well, its $10k more than the CX-7.

seriously, it may have it beat in a lot of categories but it's doubtful that it has it beat in every way. they tow the same so thats a win for neither (and certainly squelches any thought that the cx-9 beats the murano in every way), the cx-9 certainly wins for cost of the xfer case (hope that one doesnt decide to take a crap right out of warranty.)

really, I didnt come here to defend nissan (and I were looking to troll, I'd have looked for the B-series forum, not a crossover), I came here to do a little research as I am considering a cx-9. that said, sometimes I hate the blindness that is just about any auto forum...cant see that there are other good things out there that may have similar or better features. I own a honda and a nissan and am considering a mazda (which I have never owned) because my wife likes the look (and it seems like it will suit our needs) I have respect for other manufacturer's products and I realize that what is good for me isnt necessarily good for everyone and I try not to make blanket statements that are unrealistically simple (such as beats it in every way).

you like your mazda, great, good for you, I'm sure if I go to a murano forum the feelings will be exactly the opposite, good for them.

Mazda3

04-02-2008, 02:07 PM

Again.....the Murano does not compete with the CX-9, it is a full class below. It's like comparing the MDX to the RDX.

100$ GUY

04-11-2008, 01:37 PM

I don't have that issue either. My headlights always turn on automatically when I pull into my garage, and they turn off a bit after I lock the doors. I don't get any sort of buzz, tone, alert, etc.

Yeah, me neither.

100$ GUY

04-11-2008, 01:38 PM

CX9 SportOwner

04-26-2008, 06:29 PM

Okay, I have to put my 2 cents in to this. The Murano isn't a bad vehicle, but it proves that people do not shop smart when they buy cars.

The Murano costs the same as a CX-9, yet it haves significantly less cargo room, 2 less passengers, is slower and will not corner like a CX9, less passenger comfort, and yet is only 11" shorter. But you see them all over the place. People are dumb.