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ebertm
03-05-2008, 05:38 PM
Does anyone have the procedure to program a Smart Key? I have done keyfobs for Acura's before and I know they aren't that hard to do. I am not sure what is needed for the Keyless Smart Key's. I have 2, but one is cracked so was going to pick up a spare. Please let me know if you have any information.

OMF
03-05-2008, 09:04 PM
Does anyone have the procedure to program a Smart Key? I have done keyfobs for Acura's before and I know they aren't that hard to do. I am not sure what is needed for the Keyless Smart Key's. I have 2, but one is cracked so was going to pick up a spare. Please let me know if you have any information.

Yes, you can register up to the maximum of 8 smart keys for your CX-9. You must have two "valid" keys - that can start the engine. Otherwise you need a special tool (M-MDS).

UPDATE: see another PDF file attached for advanced keyless system card key registration.

Roger Cooper
09-12-2008, 04:19 PM
Yes, you can register up to the maximum of 8 smart keys for your CX-9. You must have two "valid" keys - that can start the engine. Otherwise you need a special tool (M-MDS).

UPDATE: see another PDF file attached for advanced keyless system card key registration.

Just purchased two keys on Ebay but they would not go all the way in the ignition switch. To make the keys work the stop step on each side of the key has to be milled down, to the same width as the rest of the key, all the way to the rubber head. Also the rubber head is too thick to go between the plastic protrusions on the ignition switch. I solved this by grinding some rubber off each side of the key. Another good thing to do is have a good locksmith cut the keys for you. He will make less mistakes than some of the other cheaper places. The procedure listed with this article works well so go for it.

cxgreat
09-24-2008, 01:53 PM
Had the same problem with my keys, had to mill them down. Definately have to visit the locksmith but programming was a breeze

Remmington
10-16-2009, 06:23 PM
Yes, you can register up to the maximum of 8 smart keys for your CX-9. You must have two "valid" keys - that can start the engine. Otherwise you need a special tool (M-MDS).

UPDATE: see another PDF file attached for advanced keyless system card key registration.

I tried the procedure and it doesn't work

ceric
10-16-2009, 08:08 PM
Remmington,
A common mistake people make is to have both Key1, Key2 and Key3 nearby while going through the procedure. That confuses the ECU. At any time during the process, only ONE key is present (detectable by ECU) near the CX9.

You should try it again. This procedure has been tried many times. Dealers do the same but charge you 1 hour labour at least.

Remmington
10-19-2009, 10:35 AM
Remmington,
A common mistake people make is to have both Key1, Key2 and Key3 nearby while going through the procedure. That confuses the ECU. At any time during the process, only ONE key is present (detectable by ECU) near the CX9.

You should try it again. This procedure has been tried many times. Dealers do the same but change you 1 hour labour at least.

I am referring to the advanced key procedure, which says two have key 1 & 2 plus the new key inside the vehicle

ceric
10-19-2009, 04:41 PM
Remmington,
I checked my 2008 Workshop Manual and found some discrepancy against the PDF above.
Here is what is on the Workshop manual of 2008. This differences may be significant, may be not. It does not hurt for you to try it, especially if you have a 2008. The one OMF posted is likely to be for 2007 model.
Again, when "using key x" (in the following procedures), remove the other 2 keys from vicinity so that the ECU is not confused.

Key 1 and Key 2 are valid keys. Key 3 is the one to be programmed.
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1. Prepare key 3 for programming
2. Start the engine using key 1.
3. Verify that the security light illuminates for approx. 3 s, and then goes out
4. Turn the ignition switch to the LOCK position.
5. Using key 1, turn the ignition back to the ON position
6. Verify that the security light illuminates for approx. 3 s, and then goes out
7. Using key 1, turn the ignition switch to the LOCK position within approx. 4 s after the security light goes out.
8. Remove key 1
9. Repeat Step 5-8 using key 2 instead of key 1
10. Repeat Step 5-8 using key 3 instead of key 1
11. If an additional key is to be programmed, repeat Steps 2-10 with the additional key as key 4
12. Verify that all keys can start the engine for 5 s or more after the procedure

jdoering
08-26-2010, 01:35 AM
Has anyone actually done this successfully on an 2008 with the advanced keyless system?

Ceric's answers all seem to be about the smart keys including his alternative steps from the 2008 manual. As far as I can tell the 2008 manual matches the linked PDF for the advanced keyless system.

I can't get the procedure to work. When instructed to "press the door switch twice" (step 8) nothing happens. I assume it means the external door lock switch (little black button) although the directions are not very explicit. The interior lock switch doesn't make sense as it is a toggle.

I'd really rather avoid paying the dealer (mostly out of stubborness). Can anyone veryify that this works (or that they can even get the right result out of step 8 even if they aren't programming a third key)?

-Jeff

garyinpa
09-09-2010, 03:44 PM
I can't get the procedure to work. When instructed to "press the door switch twice" (step 8) nothing happens. I assume it means the external door lock switch (little black button) although the directions are not very explicit. The interior lock switch doesn't make sense as it is a toggle.

I'd really rather avoid paying the dealer (mostly out of stubborness). Can anyone veryify that this works (or that they can even get the right result out of step 8 even if they aren't programming a third key)?

I finally figured this out. The "door switch" they refer to is the switch that activates the courtesy light when the door is open. It's on the door frame to the left of the driver's left shoulder when the door is open. Press it twice, then shut the door and press unlock twice on the new key card.

tbarrera
08-17-2011, 10:25 AM
Unfortunately, I lost one of the 2 switchblade keys that came with the new vehicle. Is going to the stealership my only option?

helbigtw
08-18-2011, 07:51 AM
yep, unless you can find a service shop out there with a mazda modular diagnostic machine (mmds) which costs thousands.

goacom
10-03-2011, 06:35 PM
Anyone have instructions for a 2011 CX9 with the advanced key system. It is a fob design - not a card. I have two fobs and would like to program a third as a backup.
Thanks.

alisa
10-09-2011, 11:38 PM
A number of folks have talked about programming a 3rd key and one or more transponders themselves using the procedures set forth above. I just bought a 2008 CX-0 and was given only one flip key for keyless entry. So, I am getting another key cut and programmed by the dealer. I figured that would be the least expensive way to go. But I'd like to get another transmitter/transponder elsewhere and program it myself. Also thinking about getting another key while I have two working keys. So, a couple of questions.

1. Am I correct that it is possible to program a transmitter myself while having only one that currently works?

2. There are a number of sellers on E-Bay who sell blank keys for the CX-9 and sometimes the transponder as well (I have a 2008). But, many, if not all of them, make a point of saying that the the sell blank key has to be programmed by the dealer. This seems contrary to what I have read in a number of threads on this forum. My understanding is that once I have two working keys I am able to program a third key myself.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Lisa

ceric
10-10-2011, 02:32 AM
Alisa:

First, your understanding is correct. If you got ONE working key, the second one has to be programmed by professionals.
If you got two working ones, you can DIY. The procedures can be found on this board. I got a 2008. So, the procedures I listed
work for yours.

Second. If you are buying a key to be programmed by the dealer, it is probably better to buy it thru the said dealer.
The worst senario that I have heard was that someone bought a "blank key" and ask the dealer to program it.
The dealer came back and said that it did not match/could not be programmed. What do you do, then? You have to
deal with the eBay seller again. Quite a hassle to deal with back and forth. However, it is your call if you are willing to
take the risk of troubles and save some $$$.

In any case, before you lose your only key, get the second working one. When you have none, the price will go up by 3X!
That is what happens with these modern key. Always make sure you have two.

alisa
10-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Ceric,
Thanks for your response. I do plan on getting a key from the dealer and having them program it. But I'm thinking of getting a third key and programming it on my own before I lose a key. Are you of the opinion that those eBay sellers who say that a key bought from them has to be programmed by the dealer are simply incorrect if in fact you have 2 working keys?

Lisa

helbigtw
10-10-2011, 08:54 PM
If you buy a smartcard on ebay, whether it is new or used, programmed for another vehicle or unprogrammed, you can still program it yourself for your vehicle (assuming you already have 2 working cards). If you go through eBay like I did, I would highly advise on going with a new card and not a used one. I bought a brand new one, and all it took was one 4 foot drop (by the Mazda service manager) for it to stop working properly, so if you buy a used one, you don't know if it's been dropped or disassembled or what. Also, just for fyi, if a smartcard on eBay does not come with an aux key, or comes with a used aux key that is already cut for another vehicle, you can buy an uncut aux key on eBay, or other website, or through Mazda, I think they're like 30 bucks through the dealer. Just beware: "They" are selling alot of knock off aux keys on the internet which look like the real actual key, and does fit in the smartcard, but does not fit as nicely as the genuine Mazda aux key, and additionally, and most importantly, some of these guys glue the transponder chip inside the square key housing with one tiny dab of glue (likely comes from China). If that transponder chip falls out of the key, and for whatever reason your smartcard goes dead and you need the aux key as a backup, your aux key will not let you start the car if the chip has fallen out somewhere along the way. My advise: IF THE AUX KEY YOU OBTAIN WHETHER IT BE WITH THE SMARTCARD OR SEPARATELY DOES NOT COME DIRECTLY FROM MAZDA, BE SURE TO CONTACT THE SELLER AND ASK IF IT IS AN OEM MAZDA KEYBLANK, KEYBLANK HOUSING, AND KEYBLANK TRANSPONDER CHIP, because these guys are selling new oem Mazda smartcards, with knockoff aux keys that are cheaply made.

HoboB
11-07-2011, 07:15 PM
This might be a stupid question. For the Card Key programming, the instructions at step 3 ask to "insert the supplementary key". Which key is the supplementary key?
I know which the auxiliary key is. I have a 2008 CX9 GT with the advanced keyless entry and start option and I am trying to program a 3rd card key, as I have 2 working ones. Thanks in advance.

helbigtw
11-07-2011, 07:42 PM
It could be worded better.... "insert an aux key into the ignition key cylinder"

HoboB
11-07-2011, 11:22 PM
Thank you helbigtw.

schotz
12-02-2011, 11:32 PM
Great post...OMF's Key programming pdf worked on my 2011 CX-7 on the first try. It saved me $70 in dealership charges.

helbigtw
12-03-2011, 07:39 AM
Good for you and welcome schotz!

BCRider
02-03-2012, 07:35 PM
Great reading thru this thread. I have a slightly different twist that I'm hoping someone can help clarify. I have a 2008 CX-9 GT with 2 Smart Cards. One of the remote cards has stopped working completely, the other works but sporadically. Still have both aux keys and they work just fine. From all that I've read, including the instructions on programming additional Smart Cards, two 'cards' must be working in order to program additional cards...is this true or is the fact that both 'keys' are still available and working sufficient? I'm trying to differentiate between the 'card' and 'key' components of the Smart Card to determine what must be functional in order to go thru purchase and programming of new/additional Smart Cards.

As a follow on, any idea what might be causing the one remote card to not work? Both cards have become increasingly tempramental over time until the one just stopped working altogether. Tried numerous new batteries. The one good still requires an ocassional shake/tap to get it to work. Is it possible the dead unit just lost its programming and a dealer may be able to reprogram? Depending upon the answer to the above regarding operation of key versus card, if i can somehow get this second card working then i could purchase new Smart Cards on ebay, program myself and save a ton of dough.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts/advice.

helbigtw
02-04-2012, 12:03 PM
It could be numerous things. You could have transponder sensors out, which are placed in various locations in the vehicle that communicate with the smartcards, or you smartcard battery contacts might not be fully touching the batteries. Try taking them apart to find the problem. Try to get both to work just temporarily at least so you can buy more cards and program them yourself. To program a card yourself, you do have to have 2 working cards. If you can only get one to work, dealer will have to program a second, and then you can program a third. Dealer will charge about an hour of labor to program a second.

If you cannot get either card to work, and using aux keys alone is not satisfactory for your needs, then you have to but a new computer + 2 cardkeys and this will run you in the 800 dollar range.

I'm sure if you are dilligent, you can get both cards to communicate just for a minute or 2 while you program a third yourself. If you can get both of them to work, buy 2 more and program them yourself.

BCRider
02-04-2012, 05:45 PM
helbigtw, appreciate the advice...spent some more time with fiddling with the remote card and turns out the lower battery contact was actually going above the battery rather than below. So now have a second working card. Ordered two more and will program upon reciept. Thanks again.

helbigtw
02-04-2012, 06:03 PM
I love it when a plan comes together.

Schmud77
02-06-2012, 05:50 PM
Hi,
Do you have directions for keyless FOB programming for 2011 CX9? From the owners manual I understand that you can customize settings i.e. such as when you leave your car the doors will automatically lock, but you have to bring your FOB into the dealer to have them do this. Is this a dealership only thing?
Thanks

helbigtw
02-06-2012, 10:21 PM
Yes it is a dealer only deal, they can do this for you if you want. Your owners manual also tells you how to program a new fob.