Spare Key & Fob Programming for Mazda5

[Procrustes]

I made a 3rd key for my 2007 mazda 5...

I bought a transmitter fob off ebay (~$30). I programmed it using instructions in the PDF file. You can program up to 3 fobs for your car.
-Note that although the PDF specifies it is only for 2006 vehicles below a certain VIN, it worked fine on my 2007.

I bought the RFID key blank from the dealer (~$10?) and had it cut at the local locksmith ($5). You or locksmith will need to tap in the small roll pin to attach key to the fob if it's not already attached. I then programmed the key using instructions in the GIF file. You can program up to 8 blanks this way.

Good luck!

[slvrsleeper]

Very cool! and thanks for the info (goes to find key fob on E-bay)

[retrorach]

Does anyone have the remaining instructions from that GIF posted before? I bought my Mazda5 used and only have one key. I want to program two more keys and the PDF instructions don't seem to work.

[remarquian]

Does anyone have the remaining instructions from that GIF posted before? I bought my Mazda5 used and only have one key. I want to program two more keys and the PDF instructions don't seem to work.

I think you need to go to the dealer to get them to program at least one other of your keys.

The dealer told me and all the instructions I have seen all require two remotes. I think the intent of this is to be a security feature to prevent someone from cloning a key with just one copy.

But hey, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[coolmazda5]

^^ That is correct, 2 same programmed remotes are needed to create a 3rd one. I agree, this measure is for security reasons (i.e. when dropping your car at the valet parking)

[olddaddy]

Has anyone bought a fob and key from ebay? If so, from whom and did everything work?

[remarquian]

I bought a blank switchblade key off of Ebay for like 50$US (including shipping), and it worked just fine. Well almost. Lowes screwed up cutting the key. So I had to buy another key blank for like 7 bucks and have it cut and installed by a professional (like another 10$US).

There is a sequence to program the transponder in the key, and another to program the remote that came with the key and is floating around this board.

[olddaddy]

I bought a blank switchblade key off of Ebay for like 50$US (including shipping), and it worked just fine. Well almost. Lowes screwed up cutting the key. So I had to buy another key blank for like 7 bucks and have it cut and installed by a professional (like another 10$US).

There is a sequence to program the transponder in the key, and another to program the remote that came with the key and is floating around this board.
I'm not sure what you mean "installed by a professional". What was installed?
Also, do you remember the seller you brought the fob and key from on ebay?

[remarquian]

I'm not sure what you mean "installed by a professional". What was installed?
Also, do you remember the seller you brought the fob and key from on ebay?


Here is i picture of a key:

133123

So I got my key cut at Lowes [the big box hardware store], they screwed it up, and it couldn't open the car or turn the ignition. So to fix it, I bought just the metal blade part off of Ebay and had a professional locksmith, cut the new blade, and replace the old worthless blade on the key.

To replace the blade, open your key, so that the blade and the body is at a 90 degree angle. You'll see a pin at the base of the blade. Pop that pin out and the blade detaches. The trick is getting the pin back in :-).

This was an example of my stinginess costing me an extra $12 and a couple hours of time.

I bought my key from remotesupermarket on ebay for 47$US total. The extra blade was 7$US total from gemworld4u. They were picked because they had good ratings and the lowest price I could find. The delivery was fast.

I would recommend that everyone get another key made, in case you lose one, as visiting the dealer sucks.

And the beauty about the way the system works, is that if you have three keys, and if you do lose a key, upon discovering you've lost it, you can program out the lost key with the two remaining keys. So yes, someone who finds your key can get into your car, but they won't be able to start it.

So does that make sense?

[olddaddy]

Here is i picture of a key:

133123

So I got my key cut at Lowes [the big box hardware store], they screwed it up, and it couldn't open the car or turn the ignition. So to fix it, I bought just the metal blade part off of Ebay and had a professional locksmith, cut the new blade, and replace the old worthless blade on the key.

To replace the blade, open your key, so that the blade and the body is at a 90 degree angle. You'll see a pin at the base of the blade. Pop that pin out and the blade detaches. The trick is getting the pin back in :-).

This was an example of my stinginess costing me an extra $12 and a couple hours of time.

I bought my key from remotesupermarket on ebay for 47$US total. The extra blade was 7$US total from gemworld4u. They were picked because they had good ratings and the lowest price I could find. The delivery was fast.

I would recommend that everyone get another key made, in case you lose one, as visiting the dealer sucks.

And the beauty about the way the system works, is that if you have three keys, and if you do lose a key, upon discovering you've lost it, you can program out the lost key with the two remaining keys. So yes, someone who finds your key can get into your car, but they won't be able to start it.

So does that make sense?

Thanks for all the detailed info. I will be purchasing one also now.

[scknight2]

I bought my key from remotesupermarket on ebay for 47$US total. The extra blade was 7$US total from gemworld4u. They were picked because they had good ratings and the lowest price I could find. The delivery was fast.

I would recommend that everyone get another key made, in case you lose one, as visiting the dealer sucks.

So a friend of mine lost one of his 2 keys for his 5. The dealer wants $350 for a new replacement or $150 for just a key without the fob. My understanding is that if he bought a replacement from remotesupermarket, he would still have to take it to the dealer to be programmed (and cut), right? Anyone know how much they charge for that?

Thanks.

[trev0006]

Thanks for the tip.

[olddaddy]

I bought a remote and with a blank from ebay transponderisland. I bought from them because it was a brand new remote (others selling said slightly used), the cost was $54 shipped. Instructions were sent with remote but I used the instructions posted here. I had the blank cut at a local locksmith for $2. No problems programing the remote and key. It is my 3rd remote and I have 2 stand alone non remote keys. Hopefully I wont need to do this again but if I do it will not be a problem. Thanks to remarquian and those who contributed info in this post.

[Chris B]

Any chance this will work with the 2008? The key fob looks exactly the same as above.

[remarquian]

Any chance this will work with the 2008? The key fob looks exactly the same as above.

fersure

[fam]

I have one valid key and the dealer just mailed me a new one already cut based on the code after I just bought it used. The dealer was 50 miles away so I dont want to go back just for a key. Anyone know the cost to have the local mazda program it?

[fam]

Wowzuh.

Dealer mailed me a new key already cut and works right out of the bag even keyless.

booya.

[2003proes]

anyone want to share the program code for the key fob. i'm curious as to whether or not the protege fob will work to unlock the doors.

[olddaddy]

anyone want to share the program code for the key fob. i'm curious as to whether or not the protege fob will work to unlock the doors.

It is on the OP's 1st post.

[OilGuy]

I've got a 2008 Mazda5 and just bought the regluar (non-switchblade) key (with chip) from the Mazda dealer (part number F1Y1-76-2GX). I paid MSRP for the key (~$28), but they cut it for me too. Programming was easy per the directions above.

[mespike]

Is there anyway to replace the "remote" part of the key without replacing the key? The reason I'm asking is because the coil part that holds my house key broke off. Nothing's wrong with the key itself and didn't know if I could buy another key & just switch the outer parts??

[randlm5]

I have a 2006 Mazda 5 and I only have one key for it. I know this was already asked but do I need to go to the dealer to program a second remote or is there a process that works? I have tried one and it does not seem to work. Also is there a different process for programing the alarm portion?

[Heat]

Is there anyway to replace the "remote" part of the key without replacing the key? ...
You can separate the key from the transponder, the instructions are in the first post of this thread. On the switchblade style key, the key and the transponder are two separate parts. The key ring is actually a third part.


I have a 2006 Mazda 5 and I only have one key for it. I know this was already asked but do I need to go to the dealer to program a second remote ... Also is there a different process for programing the alarm portion?
Since you have one key you have to have the dealer program the second key for you. While you are at it, might as well have them program a second transponder (fob), should be one hour of labor.

Once you have a second key and second transponder, I highly recommend getting a third key / transpoder and programming it yourself for use as a spare key. Think of it as insurance in case you lose one of your two existing keys.

With regard to the alarm, I have no idea, my Mazda5 doesn't have an alarm.

[mazdadude]

I have a 2006 Mazda 5 and I only have one key for it. I know this was already asked but do I need to go to the dealer to program a second remote or is there a process that works? I have tried one and it does not seem to work. Also is there a different process for programing the alarm portion?

In order to program a 2nd key, the dealer must do it.

However when you add a 3rd key, you can do it yourself, but you must have the other two keys during the programming of the third one.

[Mntnbkr]

On the switchblade style key, the key and the transponder are two separate parts.


Does anyone know the part # or approx price from dealer for the upper third of the switchblade style key (switchblade holder part w/key blank)?

When we bought our 5, the dealer thought they lost our key, so they supplied a new blank fob...then they found our actual key in some shop guys pocket several weeks later and told us to keep the new blank for all the trouble. Well I was inspired by all you to get my third key cut and programmed, so I dug it out of the car stuff, opened the box, and found out it is only the transmitter portion of the fob. (uhm) Now I need the rest. Any lines on part # and where best to get?

Thanks.

[Heat]

Does anyone know the part # or approx price from dealer for the upper third of the switchblade style key (switchblade holder part w/key blank)?...
Short answer: G2YA762GXB and $48.76 (MSRP), cutting of the key should be included.

Long answer: The switchblade style key is made up of three parts:

CC43675RYC: transponder part of switchblade style key, $126.70 (MSRP = $158.37)*
G2YA762GXB: key part of switchblade style key, $39.01 (MSRP = $48.76)
KRTT09001: key ring, $0.49 (MSRP = $0.61)

MSRP is what you will pay if you walk into your local Mazda dealer, the lower price shown is the price from this site: http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=214264 which is Montgomery Mazda out of Charlotte, North Carolina.

Montgomery Mazda will cut the key(s) for you at no extra cost, based on your VIN only. Shipping is $6.50 for the continental US if I remember right though free shipping on orders over $100 or $125. I had a couple keys made there this past April and they were cut perfectly and work great.

There is another style of key, a “normal” key without the transponder / fob. This is what I keep on my key ring – I like it because it is a lot smaller than the switchblade style key plus I don’t have to worry about it getting wet, getting hit while in my pocket, etc. This key is part number F1Y1762GX, $22.58 (MSRP = $28.22).

As long as I'm mentioning sites, here is another one that I have used and am happy with: Med Center Mazda out of Pelham, Alabama: http://www.mazdaparts.org/mazda5test.html

I didn't buy keys from Med Center Mazda, rather I bought items for changing my oil (filters, replacement housing) as well as a cargo net. I'm happy with both Med Center Mazda and Montgomery Mazda.

* There has recently been a $15 price drop in part number CC43675RYC (transponder), I paid $141 for it at the above-referenced site in April.

[dan4behr]

So a friend of mine lost one of his 2 keys for his 5. The dealer wants $350 for a new replacement or $150 for just a key without the fob. My understanding is that if he bought a replacement from remotesupermarket, he would still have to take it to the dealer to be programmed (and cut), right? Anyone know how much they charge for that?

Thanks.

OMG!(wow)
I had an extra key (without remote) made by my dealer for 10 bucks.
Sure, it'll only get the door opened, but I have it in one of those magnetic boxes someplace under the car. At least I have a way to get in should I ever lock myself out and leave the "real" key+fob inside the car...

$150 for a door key is beyond outrageous, IMHO!

[Mntnbkr]

Heat-
You rock. Now THAT is an answer - thanks for all the really good information. I'm off to order a key, and I like the fixed key option you mentioned.
Also, I agree with your statement about Med Center Mazda - I have bought from them before and talked to them on the phone before - they are competetive and helpful.
By the way, I just called my local dealer and MSRP means nothing to them (except maybe Must Screw ouR Patrons)- they set their own price and they want $65 for the switchblade KEY PART ONLY and $40 for the non-switchblade style key. Highway robbery - I'l be calling Med Center or Montgomery.
Thanks again.

[Heat]

...I'l be calling Med Center or Montgomery...

If you do call Med Center about the keys, please post back with what their key prices are, and keep in mind that they have free shipping on orders over $100 to the continental US. Assuming their prices are in line with Montgomery Mazda, you can get the "normal" key, the switchblade key (key part only), and a couple more things to get you over $100 for free shipping. Maybe a cargo net and a bottle of touchup paint?

As an example of what you can get from them, here is what I ordered from Med Center:

Oil Filter 5-pack with free oil filter wrench: $23.80
Mazda oil pan drain plug washer: 5 @ $1.37 each = $6.85
Mazda Oil Filter Housing: $14.15 (just in case…)
Mazda Air Filter: $15.51
Mazda5 Touchup Paint: $5.34
Mazda5 Cargo Net: $38.32
Mazda Zoom-Zoom Decal: Free

Total cost = $103.97 with free shipping

Just keep in mind that at Montgomery Mazda they cut the keys at no extra cost, based on the VIN only. Maybe Med Center does this also, I don't know. You still have to program the key yourself but that takes about ten seconds.

One other thing, some people have found cheap keys on ebay. I have not personally looked at ebay for Mazda5 keys so I don't know much about what's out there or what the going price is on ebay.

[AwaKeN]

Do they take internet orders ? If so can you give me their web site ?

Thanks

[coolmazda5]

^^ Just check post #26

[AwaKeN]

Ohh great !! Thanks !

[Mntnbkr]

If you do call Med Center about the keys, please post back with what their key prices are.

I ended up ordering through Montgomery Mazda - they were a bit cheaper, closer to me (faster shipping), and Jason was very helpful. He said I HAD to order on the web as they require the VIN (in text) to cut the key. Based on what Jason said on the phone , if I placed the order before noon on Thursday, he would cut the key (included in same price) and it would ship USPS same day and I should get it by Saturday. We'll see if I get mail tomorrow - if so, great service. It was $22.58 + 6.50 shipping. I did also get a cabin air filter for 23.78, but since that's all I needed I could not get over $100. No increase in shipping to include the filter.
Med Center was also helpful on the phone and VERY close in price - 23.99 + approx. $10 for shipping. (and they DO cut for that price), but again, since I couldn't get to $100 for things I really needed, I opted to go with Montgomery for less $$.

[mazda5ca]

OMG!(wow)
I had an extra key (without remote) made by my dealer for 10 bucks.
Sure, it'll only get the door opened, but I have it in one of those magnetic boxes someplace under the car. At least I have a way to get in should I ever lock myself out and leave the "real" key+fob inside the car...

$150 for a door key is beyond outrageous, IMHO!

Hi there, new to the forums, a great resource!

A question about keys... I got a no chip key cut (2007 Mazda 5 GT) at the dealership at last service time with the same idea as above. Problem is, when I try using it, it locks and unlocks the driver's door just fine, but it does not disarm the factory-installed alarm... Am I missing something? Should I be unlocking it a certain way?

Thanks!

John

[wmzda5]

Yes if you have a factory alarm it will go off if you open the door with the no chip key, if you close it using the key FOB which activates the alarm (GT). You only use that if you want to intentionally lock the key fob inside the car for safekeeping (so it wont get wet during swimming / water sports) in this case you will have to lock it manually or using the no chip key which will disable the alarm.

[mazda5ca]

Yes if you have a factory alarm it will go off if you open the door with the no chip key, if you close it using the key FOB which activates the alarm (GT). You only use that if you want to intentionally lock the key fob inside the car for safekeeping (so it wont get wet during swimming / water sports) in this case you will have to lock it manually or using the no chip key which will disable the alarm.

Thanks, that's the answer I was kinda hoping for!

[Heat]

Hi there, new to the forums, a great resource!

A question about keys... I got a no chip key cut (2007 Mazda 5 GT) at the dealership at last service time with the same idea as above...
Are you sure that you have a non-chipped key? If you paid around $30 for it, it's got to be the chipped version. Try progrmaming it, the instructions are in Post #1 of this thread:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123695620

If it really is a non-chipped key, consider picking up a chipped key so that you can start the car as well as avoid the alarm issues. About $30 with cutting included from the dealer. If your dealer tries to charge labor for cutting it, or has marked up MSRP (should be less than $29 plus tax) just buy it online at Med Center Mazda - less than $23 plus $6.50 shipping, cutting of the key included. You can program the chip in the key easily yourself, really easy.

[GBean]

Slightly off topic... Anyone know how to change the battery in the fob?

[Heat]

Slightly off topic... Anyone know how to change the battery in the fob?

The instructions are in the file

M5_fob_program.pdf

present in the first post.

[particlekeeper]

In all the auctions that are on Ebay most sellers ask to compare the following numbers with the ones you have on your keys:

FCC ID: KPU41788
IC : 4238A-41525
Visteon No. 41525

What I have on my key is completely different.

MR 1382 ANRT 2005
CE C 5616
Mitsubishi Electric SKE126-01

Also none of the sellers offers a key that has the same buttons like mine. Instead of a panic button, I have a button to disable the car alarm.
Maybe I should add that I live in Germany and have a "European" Mazda 5.

Do the numbers of the keys you purchased on Ebay match what's inside the original keys?

[GBean]

Well they are also made by mitsubishi but being the european model I would guess they are incompatible.
My originals match the ebay ones.

[joeym509]

Just picked up a 3rd key for my 5 and thanks to the OP I was able to program it in less than 2 minutes! The dealer wanted $100 to program it for me. Big shout out to the OP for posting this!(rockon)(yippy)

[Captain KRM P5]

thanks for the heads up, good writeup

[wunchun]

Thanks for the tips on getting a spare remote key, I emailed Jason at mazdaparts.com and got a quote of $165 for the key and remote with free shipping. Is it a fair price?

[GBean]

You can get them on ebay for less than 30 and program them yourself.

[Heat]

Jason is with Montgomery Mazda though I guess it's possible that there is also a Jason at Med Center Mazda (www.mazdaparts.org). Anyway, in the grand scheme of things, is $165 a fair price for a key and a fob? Heck no, it’s outrageous, but the days of getting a spare key made for 97 cents at Wal-Mart are long-gone, and the $165 is a lot less than your local dealer would charge. And keep in mind that you will need to program the key and fob yourself, though through Montgomery Mazda (and I assume Med Center Mazda) the keys come pre-cut based off of your VIN only. As far as ebay goes – post a link to a $30 key with fob, I’d like to see what one of these auctions look like, and keep in mind that you still have to have the key cut.

Finally, pick up an extra key, part number F1Y1762GX, $22.58 at Montgomery Mazda (MSRP = $28.22) as a spare. And you do have two working keys and two working fobs right now, correct? If no you’ll need to go to the dealer to have your current key / fob reprogrammed as well as the new key. If you have two working keys and two working fobs right now, you can program a third by yourself.

[GBean]

The one I bought on ebay was quite legit, and only cost $3 to have cut at a locksmith. The programming is super easy as long as you already have two working keys.

[wunchun]

I followed the advises of others on the forum and bought a uncut fob key with remote from ebay for $43 shipped, then paid $5.29 for a local locksmith to cut the key, spent 5 min programming the key and remote and everything worked like a charm.

Total $$ spent is $48.29 (yes I might have overspent a bit on the key cutting part because I didn't want to pay $1 at Lowes and end up screwing myself after hearing the horror story of another poster.)

That's a huge saving over the cheapest dealer online. This forum rocks!

[SGT_OKINAWA]

Question?

Don't you guys have the 'NO KEYS AT ALL' system?

http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarNote/678279/p1.jpg

I just have a credit card size 'card' that I put in my wallet and then all i have to do is push the button on the door handle (to unlock the car) then get in and turn the knob.

Just wondering, I've not seen a 'big key' like that before for the Premacy here in Japan.

Peace!(rei)

[MBEE]

Lost a "switchblade" key fob for 2007 Mazda 5.

Dealer quoted me:
$57.04 for a key
PLUS $166 for a fob
PLUS service $$ to have it programmed!! (we want to "lock out" the lost remote.

The dealer's parts rep says there isn't another key option listed in his catalog-just the switchblade.

What are my options??? I just have one switchblade key fob- no other keys.

Thank you!!

[wmzda5]

In that case you would want to go to the dealer, theres no other way. Even if you still have the 2 keys and made 1 extra keys and then lost 1 key, you still need to see the dealer to lock out the lost key. You dont want anybody to take away your MZ5 do you?

[Heat]

... What are my options??? I just have one switchblade key fob- no other keys.
Pick up a new switchblade style key either from the online places listed in this thread (about $180 or so total), or off of ebay as mentioned above. You'll still have to go to the dealer to have the key / new fob programmed since you have only one.

There is a non-switchblade style key, part number F1Y1762GX, MSRP is about $28. This is what I carry around on my keyring, the fob is too bulky for my taste.

Since you only have one key you have to have the dealer program the second key. Same for the fob. If you had two keys or two fobs you could program a third by yourself, but you can't with only one. Because of this, I highly recommend that you pick up a third key as a spare. Won't be cheap, but think of it as insurance.

[wREI]

I also lost one of my switchblade keys, i have mazda 5 2005.

what i want to ask is how are the keys bought from ebay? are they original oem mazda keys or some cheap ass china copy?

anyone who could recommend one good seller on ebay while your at it. thinking of buying 2 keys with fob
+

[wREI]

In all the auctions that are on Ebay most sellers ask to compare the following numbers with the ones you have on your keys:

FCC ID: KPU41788
IC : 4238A-41525
Visteon No. 41525

What I have on my key is completely different.

MR 1382 ANRT 2005
CE C 5616
Mitsubishi Electric SKE126-01

Also none of the sellers offers a key that has the same buttons like mine. Instead of a panic button, I have a button to disable the car alarm.
Maybe I should add that I live in Germany and have a "European" Mazda 5.

Do the numbers of the keys you purchased on Ebay match what's inside the original keys?


I have exact same part numbers as your and the key looks the same without the third button, i only have 2 buttons and no third one as your disable alarm.

have you found any match?

[KBrian]

I have 4 keys for the 07 MZ5. 2 switchblade remotes; a black plastic-head transponder key (42 bucks can. at the dealer); and a 3 dollar metal key that only opens the drivers door (always hidden inside the MZ5). I am thinking of getting a blank switchblade from Ebay to have a backup. I hate paying dealer prices for anything. :0

[particlekeeper]

I have exact same part numbers as your and the key looks the same without the third button, i only have 2 buttons and no third one as your disable alarm.

have you found any match?

Sorry, for not answering back, but somehow the information mail about replies to my posts doesn't get through to my email account.

My original key now finally gave up :-( It's falling apart if I don't put it together with a rubber band. I'll go and order two of the keys off Ebay and try to program them. If I don't succeed I just take the new housing and put the electronics from my old key in there.
I'll let you guys know if it works out.

[particlekeeper]

I just ordered a spare key from Ebay
First of all: I was not able to program it for my car :-(

As I needed it as replacement for a broken key (which still worked), I just used the housing and put my electronics into it.

All keys together:
http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/400_3236313463343330.jpg (http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/1024_3236313463343330.jpg)
left the new uncut key, in the middle my original spare key and my broken key to the right.

http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/400_6131653936343435.jpg (http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/1024_6131653936343435.jpg)
I suppose it's due to the different circuits in the keys. As you can see one has the number JX331BA3802C, the other ends with 5802C

Basically they look identically, despite the battery contact and the IC:
http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/400_3139666639646234.jpg (http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/1024_3139666639646234.jpg)
http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/400_3736353664646464.jpg (http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/1024_3736353664646464.jpg)
One Chip is labelled MH860-DM98519K the other one MH860-DM98663K.

For completeness I took a picture of the numbers printed onto the key:
http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/400_3238633462356236.jpg (http://www.kiefersonline.de/mzda-frm/1024_3238633462356236.jpg)

I'll go and ask the Ebay dealer if he has a key having a circuitry with the number my key has.
At least it was a cheap solution to get a "new" key. Cheaper then getting one from Mazda.

[SGT_OKINAWA]

I just ordered a spare key from Ebay
First of all: I was not able to program it for my car :-(

As I needed it as replacement for a broken key (which still worked), I just used the housing and put my electronics into it.

All keys together:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_3236313463343330.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_3236313463343330.jpg)
left the new uncut key, in the middle my original spare key and my broken key to the right.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_6131653936343435.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_6131653936343435.jpg)
I suppose it's due to the different circuits in the keys. As you can see one has the number JX331BA3802C, the other ends with 5802C

Basically they look identically, despite the battery contact and the IC:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_3139666639646234.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_3139666639646234.jpg)
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_3736353664646464.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_3736353664646464.jpg)
One Chip is labelled MH860-DM98519K the other one MH860-DM98663K.

For completeness I took a picture of the numbers printed onto the key:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_3238633462356236.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_3238633462356236.jpg)

I'll go and ask the Ebay dealer if he has a key having a circuitry with the number my key has.
At least it was a cheap solution to get a "new" key. Cheaper then getting one from Mazda.

Great info and AGREE cheaper than Mazda dealer (shady)

Peace!(rei)

[BlueThunder]

I'm looking to get a 3rd key but mainly to lock/unlock doors in winter time (ghetto style remote car starter). I was thinking to a cheap key but I found that on Ebay. Do you think that can work on my 08 MZ5?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2006-2007-06-07-MAZDA-5-RX8-MX5-TRANSPONDER-CHIP-KEY_W0QQitemZ230383682692QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35a3f00484&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://i24.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/08/96/eab4_12.JPG
They mention only 06-07 models. I don't believe there is much of a diffence between 06-07 and 08 models. What do you think?

[KBrian]

Lots of references to Mazda-spec, non-fob transponder keys in these forums. Canadian dealers retail them for between $40 to $60 Can. American $20 to $30. These keys all carry the same part number (which escapes me).

Don't know who makes the key listed on ebay, though.

[bobaganoush]

Thanks for all the information posted.

My fob (mazda5 07) is often unresponsive, and I believe this is down to a low battery.
Will replacing the battery myself cause any issues with the programming?

I've found the batteries on eBay for $7: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260294721053

Seems a lot simpler (and cheaper) than purchasing another key. Anyone know about this?

Thanks in advance

[wREI]

I just ordered a spare key from Ebay
First of all: I was not able to program it for my car :-(

As I needed it as replacement for a broken key (which still worked), I just used the housing and put my electronics into it.

All keys together:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_3236313463343330.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_3236313463343330.jpg)
left the new uncut key, in the middle my original spare key and my broken key to the right.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_6131653936343435.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_6131653936343435.jpg)
I suppose it's due to the different circuits in the keys. As you can see one has the number JX331BA3802C, the other ends with 5802C

Basically they look identically, despite the battery contact and the IC:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_3139666639646234.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_3139666639646234.jpg)
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_3736353664646464.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_3736353664646464.jpg)
One Chip is labelled MH860-DM98519K the other one MH860-DM98663K.

For completeness I took a picture of the numbers printed onto the key:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/400_3238633462356236.jpg (http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/95/225695/1024_3238633462356236.jpg)

I'll go and ask the Ebay dealer if he has a key having a circuitry with the number my key has.
At least it was a cheap solution to get a "new" key. Cheaper then getting one from Mazda.




Maybe if you take it to the dealer they can force program it?


I had the same idea buy some key from ebay and let the dealer program it if its possible even if it isnt the same part nr.

[RalphSpurt]

I made a 3rd key for my 2007 mazda 5...

I bought a transmitter fob off ebay (~$30). I programmed it using instructions in the PDF file. You can program up to 3 fobs for your car.
-Note that although the PDF specifies it is only for 2006 vehicles below a certain VIN, it worked fine on my 2007.

I bought the RFID key blank from the dealer (~$10?) and had it cut at the local locksmith ($5). You or locksmith will need to tap in the small roll pin to attach key to the fob if it's not already attached. I then programmed the key using instructions in the GIF file. You can program up to 8 blanks this way.

Good luck!

Hey, I'm new to MazdaForums, but I managed to find my way here. I have a 2006 Mazda5 I bought a few months back. it had only one fob. I bought a fob off ebay ($40) and I think I'll have a local locksmith do the cutting and programming ($65). The orginal fob works (mostly), but will not unlock the doors. Any idea's what might be wrong? How to fix it? Thanks!

[Davebert]

Hey, I'm new to MazdaForums, but I managed to find my way here. I have a 2006 Mazda5 I bought a few months back. it had only one fob. I bought a fob off ebay ($40) and I think I'll have a local locksmith do the cutting and programming ($65). The orginal fob works (mostly), but will not unlock the doors. Any idea's what might be wrong? How to fix it? Thanks!

Is that for all the doors or just the sliding doors? It is a know problem with the sliding doors not unlocking, there is a service bulletin on this from Mazda.

[coolmazda5]

I think I'll have a local locksmith do the cutting and programming ($65)

Can your locksmith do the programming? You need 2 keys in order to program a 3rd one (safety reasons).

And yes, let us know about the doors (nothing, partial?), Does the red light come up when pressing any button?

[Davebert]

I bough this key with build in transponder for under $10US including shipping from here:

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_16640_2_small.jpg
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16640

The only problem with it was the key needed a little filling to work properly and shipping from Hong Kong took just a little over 2 weeks. My M5 came with an after market start with its own remote so it was a bulky having the switch blade key and the after market remote in my pocket. I already have 2 working switch blade keys and I was able to program the key first shoot with the following procedure:

1. Insert first working transponder key into ignition and turn it to the on position, wait 3 seconds and remove key from ignition.

2. Within 5 seconds insert second working transponder key into ignition and turn it to the on position, wait 3 seconds and remove key from ignition.

3. Within 5 seconds insert new key into ignition and turn it to the on position. If car icon in between the speedometer and tachometer stops flashing and than turn off your new key has been programed, if not repeats all 3 steps.

Though I pass this along and happy new year to everyone.

Davebert

[CaptainSpalding]

I bough this key with build in transponder for under $10US including shipping from here:

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_16640_2_small.jpg
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16640

The only problem with it was the key needed a little filling to work properly and shipping from Hong Kong took just a little over 2 weeks.
Hi Dave,

I bought the same key you did based on your post. Although it appears to have the same profile as the original keys it won't fit in the door or the ignition, either before or after being cut. Can you please tell me where you had to file it to get it to work?

TIA,

Spalding

[Davebert]

Hi Dave,

I bought the same key you did based on your post. Although it appears to have the same profile as the original keys it won't fit in the door or the ignition, either before or after being cut. Can you please tell me where you had to file it to get it to work?

TIA,

Spalding

Hi Spalding, I should have made it more clear. The area that I filed was the straight edge that runs the length of the key. If you look carefully or have a caliper to measure the distance between that straight edge and the ridges you will notice that distance is larger on the original key. I took a small file and file that straight edge down on both side of the key. Just file a little at a time on both sides making sure to keep the file flat don't take off too much and test fit the key often.

It took me around 5 minutes and 3 or 4 test fits to get the new key to work. Since a picture is worth 1,000 words here is a picture that I hope you will find it useful.

http://i47.tinypic.com/14y3ity.jpg

Good luck and please update your progress.

[CaptainSpalding]

Just what I needed! Thanks. I'll post with the results.

Update:

It worked like a charm. I used a very fine triangular jeweler's file and removed a tiny bit of material from both sides of the key as indicated by Davebert above. It didn't take much - only about sixty strokes per side. This photo shows another angle of the key. The surface to be filed is highlighted in red.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p197/Captain_Spalding/Mazda5/KeyShaving.jpg
(Be sure to file both sides of the key.)

Once the key fit into the ignition, the programming sequence described above worked the first time. Thanks everyone.

[p5T]

I bough this key with build in transponder for under $10US including shipping from here:

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_16640_2_small.jpg
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16640

The only problem with it was the key needed a little filling to work properly and shipping from Hong Kong took just a little over 2 weeks. My M5 came with an after market start with its own remote so it was a bulky having the switch blade key and the after market remote in my pocket. I already have 2 working switch blade keys and I was able to program the key first shoot with the following procedure:

1. Insert first working transponder key into ignition and turn it to the on position, wait 3 seconds and remove key from ignition.

2. Within 5 seconds insert second working transponder key into ignition and turn it to the on position, wait 3 seconds and remove key from ignition.

3. Within 5 seconds insert new key into ignition and turn it to the on position. If car icon in between the speedometer and tachometer stops flashing and than turn off your new key has been programed, if not repeats all 3 steps.

Though I pass this along and happy new year to everyone.

Davebert

(drinks)

I just programmed two transponder keys for my 2005 Mazda6 this way. (Bought two keys on evilbay and local hardware store cut them both for free)

[Matt Mazda5]

My wife and I bought a 5 because we liked it best for getting around town with a new baby. I bought a third transmitter to use in case we lost of our two originals. I followed the service bulletin posted earlier in this thread.

I was able to program the third transmitter --- but it will not start the car.

I can't figure out what I am doing wrong? Is there a programming step I could have missed it? The key cut wrong?

Matt

[mazdadude]

My wife and I bought a 5 because we liked it best for getting around town with a new baby. I bought a third transmitter to use in case we lost of our two originals. I followed the service bulletin posted earlier in this thread.

I was able to program the third transmitter --- but it will not start the car.

I can't figure out what I am doing wrong? Is there a programming step I could have missed it? The key cut wrong?

Matt

Is this the method u are using?

1. Insert first working transponder key into ignition and turn it to the on position, wait 3 seconds and remove key from ignition.

2. Within 5 seconds insert second working transponder key into ignition and turn it to the on position, wait 3 seconds and remove key from ignition.

3. Within 5 seconds insert new key into ignition and turn it to the on position. If car icon in between the speedometer and tachometer stops flashing and than turn off your new key has been programed, if not repeats all 3 steps.

[Tsuru]

I just finished doing this with a new fob on my Mazda5. Keep in mind that there are two parts to the programming. One part (the GIF image in the first post) programs the key for the immobilizer. The other part in the PDF is for programming remote portion of the fob. You can program a fob to just open the doors without being able to start the car.

[Heat]

...I was able to program the third transmitter --- but it will not start the car...
You have to program the transmitter, then the chip. Two different processes. Follow the instructions just below your post, and of course welcome to the forum!

[bud9899]

I used the instructions in the 1st post with a 2008 mazda5 no problems. I also added a regular mazda transponder key($20 delivered) with an ID of ID4D-63 with no problems. The key looked like Davebert's key but didn't need any additional filing just needed cutting. Thanks for posting the instructions. Now we got 3 keys with remotes and 1 regular key for my key ring. HooRay

[trilith]

I used the instructions in the 1st post with a 2008 mazda5 no problems. I also added a regular mazda transponder key($20 delivered) with an ID of ID4D-63 with no problems. The key looked like Davebert's key but didn't need any additional filing just needed cutting. Thanks for posting the instructions. Now we got 3 keys with remotes and 1 regular key for my key ring. HooRay

can you be specific on which one you got ?
the only one on DX around $20 is http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16639

can you confirm ? thanks ,

[Davebert]

can you be specific on which one you got ?
the only one on DX around $20 is http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16639

can you confirm ? thanks ,

It is on the last page and shows this key is "Sold Out". The one on your links looks the same but I do not know if the transponder is compatible.

[trilith]

It is on the last page and shows this key is "Sold Out". The one on your links looks the same but I do not know if the transponder is compatible.

thanks Dave for the prompt answer, sorry which last page, do you have direct link to the specific item , or product# on DX so I can search ?

Edit , never mind I got it , it's the same as you got :-)

[Heat]

The normal (no transponder) part number is F1Y1762GX from Mazda. I paid $22.58 for it, already cut, from Montgomery Mazda. Or you can get it for $28.22 (MSRP) cut from your local dealer. These prices were as of last summer.

[jimp]

I just programmed a third key for my 09 Mz5 today, part number is F1Y1762GX , following the instructions in the OP, worked the 1st time. As usual, the guy at the parts desk stated the service dept would have to program the new/3rd key, I said ok.

[kueifan]

Just adding on that I got my key for $12.50 shipped from this site (http://www.ausinor.com/Home/tabid/39/CategoryID/61/List/1/Level/a/productid/215/Default.aspx?SortField=DateCreated%2cDateCreated).

Got the key cut at a locksmith and it did not fit completely in the door and ignition locks. Turned out to be the same issue as mentioned in earlier posts, see #68 on page 5.

[orangeRcode]

The local dealer I called wanted $350 for a new key, fob and programming. WTF?

[jimp]

The local dealer I called wanted $350 for a new key, fob and programming. WTF?

You can get a blank key & fob from ebay for much less $$. I got just the plain jane key w/ the transponder/chip. I don't like to carry a big lump in my pocket from the switchblade key or key and door fob, so I just carry a key and use the key lock on the handle. If you only have ONE key, then the 2nd key must be programmed by the dealer, if you have TWO keys and just getting a 3rd key, you can program the 3rd.

[Unclebill]

Hi all. I'm a newbie and have read with interest all the advice on reprogramming key fobs.
My Premacy came with only 1 remote and 2 keys. The remote ceased to work about a month ago so I replaced the battery and it still didn't work so after hunting the internet I found your very helpful instructions and I now have a working remote again.
My wife has now begun to agitate for a remote of her own. My question is if I buy a second remote can it be programmed by itself or must both remotes be in the car during the operation.

[Tsuru]

You'll need both remotes if you re-program.
When you perform the programming you're basically telling the car that "These are the keys that I want you to acknowledge. Ignore anything you knew before."

[jimp]

yes you can, but you need to get a compatible fob, look on the back of your current fob and there is a series of numbers/codes/frequencies on the case, you need to match these up so it will be compatible with your car

[skiph]

^^^^
Actually the numbers and codes are inside the FOB, the key end has to be un-clipped from the remote button end.

See the bottom picture in post #57 in this thread. The numbers are VERY SMALL.

Then match them to FOB that are for sale on eBay, some with used keys, some with new blank keys.

I got a used key one, and then 2 blank 'bayonet' keys, got the blank keys cut, put one in the used FOB I got, and followed the instructions in post #1 in this thread to program the FOB and then the ignition key..it's two separate steps, and now have a 3rd FOB with ignition key.

[Unclebill]

Thanks for your replies. So let me ask, do the keys as well as the fobs need to be in the car during reprogramme sequence. (the key is separate from the fob)??

[jimp]

you will need to have all the keys &/or fobs you are programming with you when you do it as you have to do all the keys at the same time and all of the fobs at th same time. You don't have re-program the keys if you just add another fob, and vice versa.

[Unclebill]

you will need to have all the keys &/or fobs you are programming with you when you do it as you have to do all the keys at the same time and all of the fobs at th same time. You don't have re-program the keys if you just add another fob, and vice versa.

Now I'm thoroughly confused. I have a key and fob which work a treat, I also have another key which opens the doors and starts the car. All I need to do is programme the new fob ------ can someone please tell me exactly what I need to have with me when I programme the new fob?

[Davebert]

Now I'm thoroughly confused. I have a key and fob which work a treat, I also have another key which opens the doors and starts the car. All I need to do is programme the new fob ------ can someone please tell me exactly what I need to have with me when I programme the new fob?

There are 2 different things, one is for programing just the transponder to start the car and the other is to program a new switch blade key fob to lock and unlock the car doors(keyless entry system). I've never done it myself but here is the procedure (from Wikimedia.org) for programing a new switch blade key fob for the keyless entry system.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/en/f/fb/Mazda_Guide-Protege_5-Programming_Key_Fobs-Instructions.jpg

To just program a key with the build in transponder (need 2 working keys) to start the car follow the steps listed in the thread. Hope this clears up some of the confusion.

[southpawboston]

hi all,

i just bought a 2010 mazda5 sport MT and i wanted to share how i went about adding a third remote and transponder key for under $20:

first, i picked up a slightly used remote on ebay for $16, shipped. it was the complete remote with transponder chip and blade pre-cut to someone else's car:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4903440940_08a529f540.jpg

next, i bought a non-transponder generic key blank at my local ACE hardware (ilco key # X249). it cost me $2.50, and i had them cut it using my factory key as a template. i verified that the ilco key copy worked the door tumbler and could turn the ignition switch:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4902852527_6b94030638.jpg

next, i used removed the pre-cut key blade from the used remote by punching out the small pin that holds the key blade in the remote assembly. i clamped the key blade to the new ilco key with a pair of visegrips, lining up the blades as closely and possible, and used a dremel rotary tool with cut-off wheel to trim the head of the ilco key to match the factory key blade:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4902860877_6b4113a69c.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4902863523_e2b849a014.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4903451882_7bcbb59746.jpg

lastly, i assembled the generic key blade into the remote assembly and followed the key transponder and keyless remote programming instructions in the first post of this thread using the original two keys that the car came with... voila! for $18.50 i have a 3rd key and remote. it's not perfect: the blade is ever so slightly crooked when open (see pic below), but this does not affect its function in any way.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4902869447_fbf807bea7.jpg

[skiph]

Bayonet key blanks available on eBay for 2 for about $15.00, no cutting required.

But your method is quite ingenious, glad it worked.

That 3rd key/FOB is basically 'insurance' against excessive charges from a dealer to make you a 2nd key if you loose one. Pretty cheap backup, and can be used to repeat the process with another FOB & key if necessary.

Thanks for that Ilco key number for the flat key. I got one made early on to just open the door (but it had some other number on it) so I don't have to carry the FOB while I'm cycling. I might get one more made now just in case.

[southpawboston]

That 3rd key/FOB is basically 'insurance' against excessive charges from a dealer to make you a 2nd key if you loose one. Pretty cheap backup, and can be used to repeat the process with another FOB & key if necessary.

exactly! that's the only reason i did this. i may even consider buying a few extra transponder keys (without remote) since the vehicle can accept up to eight keys.

[resan]

I ordered Mazda5 key from the ausnar site and received the spare key for $12.50 delivered but so far no success in programming it. Followed the same procedure as others here but not sure where I am going wrong.

1. Insert 1st key and turn to '"ON" position (without actually starting the car)
2. Remove key as soon as red key sign disappears and insert 2nd key and turn to ON position.
3. Wait for 2 seconds and now put the third key (Blank) & turn to ON position.
4. The Red car key flashes continuously and wont go away. Even waited for more than 30 seconds on last key.

I Have two flip transponder keys & they work fine. One of the keys was replaced by Mazda under warranty due to a button fell off so not sure if the reason for not programming is due to that copied key?

Any help is appreciated?Thanks
Resan.

[southpawboston]

I ordered Mazda5 key from the ausnar site and received the spare key for $12.50 delivered but so far no success in programming it. Followed the same procedure as others here but not sure where I am going wrong.

1. Insert 1st key and turn to '"ON" position (without actually starting the car)
2. Remove key as soon as red key sign disappears and insert 2nd key and turn to ON position.
3. Wait for 2 seconds and now put the third key (Blank) & turn to ON position.
4. The Red car key flashes continuously and wont go away. Even waited for more than 30 seconds on last key.

I Have two flip transponder keys & they work fine. One of the keys was replaced by Mazda under warranty due to a button fell off so not sure if the reason for not programming is due to that copied key?

Any help is appreciated?Thanks
Resan.

are you sure you are correctly following the procedure? your step 3: wait for 2 seconds and now put the third key... sounds like a deviation from the procedure.

the way i did it was this:

insert key 1 -> ON until light out.
within 4 seconds insert key 2 -> ON until light out.
within 4 seconds insert key 3 -> ON until light out.

if you are following this and key 3 (copy) still does not work, then it sounds like you received a key with an incompatible transponder... maybe for a different model mazda?

[kueifan]

resan, another suggestion in addition to southpaw's. When you have key #3 in, are either of the other two working keys very close by (ie in the same hand?) This might cause interference (noted from the owner's manual).

I got my key from ausnar and I have a 2009 M5 model.

[mazdadude]

I ordered Mazda5 key from the ausnar site and received the spare key for $12.50 delivered but so far no success in programming it. Followed the same procedure as others here but not sure where I am going wrong.

1. Insert 1st key and turn to '"ON" position (without actually starting the car)
2. Remove key as soon as red key sign disappears and insert 2nd key and turn to ON position.
3. Wait for 2 seconds and now put the third key (Blank) & turn to ON position.
4. The Red car key flashes continuously and wont go away. Even waited for more than 30 seconds on last key.

I Have two flip transponder keys & they work fine. One of the keys was replaced by Mazda under warranty due to a button fell off so not sure if the reason for not programming is due to that copied key?

Any help is appreciated?Thanks
Resan.

I think that when the #1 key was replaced by Mazda under warranty, they cheated and just added it as a 3rd key, (instead of connecting computer) and now when you are trying to program a new key, you are using keys #2 and #3 as opposed to the required #1 and #2.(nuts)

If this is the case, the solution would be to have the Mazda dealer reflash the computer with 2 of your keys, so that the replaced key code gets bumped from the computer memory.

[resan]

I think that when the #1 key was replaced by Mazda under warranty, they cheated and just added it as a 3rd key, (instead of connecting computer) and now when you are trying to program a new key, you are using keys #2 and #3 as opposed to the required #1 and #2.(nuts)

If this is the case, the solution would be to have the Mazda dealer reflash the computer with 2 of your keys, so that the replaced key code gets bumped from the computer memory.

I think you are spot on, with the judgement of 3rd key. Dealers perhaps programmed it as a 3rd key and took my master key away from me.

Also a correction on my steps i wrote earlier, I did wait long enough for the key light to go off with both my masters and then inserted the new key.
Both keys I have moved to passenger seat which i think is far enough and dont create any interferance with the new one.

I have 2006 Mazda 5 and people have sucessfully used the same transponder and programmed it.

So far all fingers point to issues due to using the 2nd and 3rd (copied) key being used in programming. Any ideas how to get around. My master key was replaced under warranty and right now will they re-flash it for me outside of the warranty?

Thanks all for helpful tips so far but is any other programming technique that can help me achieve this?

Edit: One more question if I reset the computer will it learn the new keys as the masters so then i can program it? I think the easiest is remove the negative battery terminal for few minutes to reset the computer. How much can I expect the dealer cost if I ask them to reflash it?

[Davebert]

Looks like the Mazda transponder key is back in stock.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16640

[Phoenix42]

Dave, can that key arm/disarm the alarm?

[Davebert]

Dave, can that key arm/disarm the alarm?

I don't know, the transponder on the key is for starting the car.

[southpawboston]

i think i read somewhere in the owner's manual that the alarm can be deactivated by unlocking the door with the key alone, no remote needed.

[Phoenix42]

That makes sense. Ordered two at that price. If we end up losing all four we clearly deserve the ride the dealer will take us on.

[KBrian]

Can that key arm/disarm the alarm?

Transponder keys do not arm and disarm the alarm from a distance. The remote fob will arm/disarm the alarm, and the driver's door lock mechanism will also arm/disarm the system

[2003proes]

I have a fob that apparently lost it's program. I was told by Mazda that I had to purchase a new one. I did, but what could make this happen? It didn't go through the wash, I didn't get caught in a down pour. No damage other than normal wear and tear. It started working intermittently and I changed the batteries. After that, it never worked again. Is there a way to get this working again? Thanks...

[southpawboston]

it could be that the battery contacts are dirty... try cleaning the contacts with some rubbing alcohol and a q-tip and reinstalling the battery. it's rare for these to stop working. it's not losing its program, per se, but probably just failing to send out the RF signal.

having had both the flip key remotes and the separate remote fobs, my experience has been that the mazda flip key remote battery has needed changing about once every two years... i've never had to replace the battery in the separate remote fob.

[2003proes]

I have tried to clean the contacts and reinstall batteries. I have tried to program the fob. nothing. the light bar between the lock and unlock buttons doesn't light up and that's why the stealership told me that i would have to buy a new one. stupid "smart" key!!!

[GBean]

open the thing up and spray the pc board with contact cleaner.
Let dry, re-assemble then try again.

[Davebert]

I have tried to clean the contacts and reinstall batteries. I have tried to program the fob. nothing. the light bar between the lock and unlock buttons doesn't light up and that's why the stealership told me that i would have to buy a new one. stupid "smart" key!!!

If the battery is new and the light does not go on when yo press the button. That would mean the contacts on the buttons are not good. Try cleaning the contact on the buttons with some rubbing alcohol, or contact cleaner as someone has suggested.

[MartyMng]

I just drove my new (to me) 2007 Mazda5 home from the dealer. He only had 1 switchblade key. If I am reading this thread correctly, since I only have 1 key, I HAVE to go to a dealer to get a 2nd one. Is this right? I initially thought I could just get a key cut without a FOB, but people were saying that this triggers the alarm when the door is unlocked.

What is my least expensive option for getting a second key for my wife? (a FOB would be nice, but not required)

Thank you!

[Davebert]

Hi Marty, you will need to get a second switchblade or a key with a transponder from the dealer or other source. You will need to get it program by the dealer because you need 2 working transponder keys in order to program new keys yourself. You can also try Ebay and I think there was someone in this forum that can sell you a key and program it for you if you supply him with your VIN number. You will have to do a search in this forum to find the vendor. Good luck and welcome to the forum.

[SuperJETT]

Same situation for us Marty, so I bought 2 new fobs/key blanks off Ebay for $80 or so shipped, and plan on getting the blanks cut by a locksmith then take one to the dealer for programming and program the 3rd myself since you need 2 working ones to do another.

I think that's the lowest cost option and I'm hoping I can talk the dealer into doing it for free while they fix the bumper cover under warranty tomorrow, but we'll see.

[SuperJETT]

BTW, I'm pretty sure the dealers only give you one key/fob so they can sell you another for $350 programmed.

[KBrian]

Welcome Marty. Dave is right; you will need to program the key with software, but you can buy the key from any vendor, as well as from the dealer.

Ebay has Mazda OEM transponder keys, in standard and switchblade, new and used, for much cheaper than the dealer.

However you end up with two programmed keys, get another transponder key to have three programmed keys. Cheap insurance IMHO

Just saw super's post, so....what he said:)

[MartyMng]

Thanks guys! I found some blank switchblades on eBay, item #300459333027 (When I paste a link to the auction, it doesn't work!) I just ordered two keys.

I think I will get 2 and try to program the 3rd myself after the dealer programs the 2nd one (replacement #1). I look forward to learning and sharing knowledge on this forum about my new 5! Should any reputable locksmith be able to cut these keys, or should I just go to the dealer?

[Davebert]

Any locksmith should be able to cut it. Just note that some of the after market keys are not an exact fit and need some filing to make it work. Just look back one page of this thread for filing instructions.

[SuperJETT]

I got our keys cut this morning and neither turn, so I'll get a file out later to tweak them.

[SuperJETT]

I ended up taking them back for a recut since the edges were at angles. After recutting, they worked fine and the dealer programmed one remote/key while it was in for warranty work then I did the third at home.

Perfect, $95 total for 2 new remotes/cutting and $0 for programming.

[rotary65]

This worked great for my 2010 Mazda5 GT. I bought a 3rd flip remote with blank key from Ebay (keygirl200902) for $40 + $8 shipping, had it cut locally for $5 and had it progranmmed within a minute using the instructions in the first post. Worked perfectly.

Thank-you OP!

[SuperJETT]

This worked great for my 2010 Mazda5 GT. I bought a 3rd flip remote with blank key from Ebay (keygirl200902) for $40 + $8 shipping, had it cut locally for $5 and had it progranmmed within a minute using the instructions in the first post. Worked perfectly.

Thank-you OP!

That's who I bought our 2 from also. Super fast shipping and perfectly new.

[californiagirl]

thanks for the info. I accidentally threw out our brand new Mazda 5 key fob (switchblade) in the garbage. We've bought a new one off of ebay, but now need to go to the dealer to get it reprogrammed and cut (as we only have one copy of the original set of keys). Does anyone know how much the dealer charges to reprogram the switchblade type of remote key fob/key, as well as cutting the blank key on the switchblade?

[SuperJETT]

You can get it cut at any locksmith/key cutting place, just push the roll-pins out and take the blank and cut parts in so they can clamp them properly.

Ask how much to program, and if it's too high, like $200, tell them that's not good enough because it's seriously about 10 minutes of work if that.

[Heat]

... Does anyone know how much the dealer charges to reprogram the switchblade type of remote key fob/key, as well as cutting the blank key on the switchblade?
Maybe a half hour of labor to program it? It's one of those things that can vary from dealer to dealer, call around and get quotes from at least three.

As far as the key fob itself, you can buy it off of eBay and have it cut by a locksmith, or you can buy a keyfob that comes precut (based off of your VIN) for about $176 shipped, then take that to the dealer to be programmed. That is, you don't have to buy the key at the dealer to have them program it, those are two different transactions.

With regard to prices, take a look at post #26 from this thread:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123695620-Spare-Key-amp-Fob-programming-for-Mazda-5&p=4607306&viewfull=1#post4607306

Also, consider picking up a “normal” key, no fob, as a spare. Part number F1Y1762GX, cost will be about $23 at an online dealer, $30 at your local dealer (costs include the cutting).

[icspots]

Also remember that the key and remote portions of the flip key are separate parts and can be purchased separately. The key section with the transponder is the same across all Mazdas with the flip key (p/n G2YA762GXA) and can be had for ~$37 cut and shipped to your door from onlinemazdaparts. Alternately you can go aftermarket for $18 HERE (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mazda-m6-flip-remote-keyblade-16641). You can either get the remote section at the same time or you can shop around and find one cheaper somewhere else.

The only thing the dealer must program for you if you have only one key is the new "2nd" key. You can program the new remote portion yourself and you only need one working key to do that (you'd also need to reprogram in any working remotes at the same time for them to continue working). Assuming the process is the same as it is on the 3 then for the dealer to plug into the computer, clear the existing key codes and reprogram it with the new ones takes about 45 minutes. In any case most dealers are going to want to charge a full hour's labor for 30-45 minutes of work. I've seen members get quoted $150 for programming. I've seen people have it done for free by congenial SM's. Most people pay around $50-75 for programming.

To make sure it doesn't happen again I suggest what Heat just mentioned. Get a standard transponder key either OEM or aftermarket in addition to whatever key you buy to replace your lost one. Have the dealer program the second key for you and then program the third yourself for free. That way should you ever lose a key again you can just replace it yourself for the cost of a key without having to pay the dealer for any programming. You can get an aftermarket standard transponder key for about $9 HERE (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mazda-m6-flip-remote-keyblade-16641).

If you don't need the second remote and don't want to spend the money now you can always just get a new standard key (or two if you take my suggestion) for the moment. If you want a new flip key later you can get one and add it... you can have up to eight keys and three remotes.

Now completely separately I've heard from some Mz3 owners that you can get some locksmiths to "clone" a RFID key for you. Basically overwrite the RFID of a new key to match an existing key. So you'd end up with two physical keys which worked, but you wouldn't be able to use them to program additional new keys since the car would see them as the same key. Apparently people have had this done really inexpensively so it might be something to look into.

[ourmazdas]

Also remember that the key and remote portions of the flip key are separate parts and can be purchased separately. The key section with the transponder is the same across all Mazdas with the flip key (p/n G2YA762GXA) and can be had for ~$37 cut and shipped to your door from onlinemazdaparts. Alternately you can go aftermarket for $18 HERE (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mazda-m6-flip-remote-keyblade-16641). You can either get the remote section at the same time or you can shop around and find one cheaper somewhere else.

The only thing the dealer must program for you if you have only one key is the new "2nd" key. You can program the new remote portion yourself and you only need one working key to do that (you'd also need to reprogram in any working remotes at the same time for them to continue working). Assuming the process is the same as it is on the 3 then for the dealer to plug into the computer, clear the existing key codes and reprogram it with the new ones takes about 45 minutes. In any case most dealers are going to want to charge a full hour's labor for 30-45 minutes of work. I've seen members get quoted $150 for programming. I've seen people have it done for free by congenial SM's. Most people pay around $50-75 for programming.

To make sure it doesn't happen again I suggest what Heat just mentioned. Get a standard transponder key either OEM or aftermarket in addition to whatever key you buy to replace your lost one. Have the dealer program the second key for you and then program the third yourself for free. That way should you ever lose a key again you can just replace it yourself for the cost of a key without having to pay the dealer for any programming. You can get an aftermarket standard transponder key for about $9 HERE (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mazda-m6-flip-remote-keyblade-16641).

If you don't need the second remote and don't want to spend the money now you can always just get a new standard key (or two if you take my suggestion) for the moment. If you want a new flip key later you can get one and add it... you can have up to eight keys and three remotes.

Now completely separately I've heard from some Mz3 owners that you can get some locksmiths to "clone" a RFID key for you. Basically overwrite the RFID of a new key to match an existing key. So you'd end up with two physical keys which worked, but you wouldn't be able to use them to program additional new keys since the car would see them as the same key. Apparently people have had this done really inexpensively so it might be something to look into.

On the same website as above, there is a link to a transponder key (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mazda-m3-m6-4d-transponder-smart-key-16640). It says it is for Mazda3 or Mazda6. Does anyone know whether it also works for Mazda5? Thanks.

[flcruising]

Yes.

Both of the links above are pointing to the same item, but one of the discussion comments lists that it is "Also for Mazda 5".

[dclyon]

Will a non-switchblade remote fob from a Mazda3 work on a Mazda5? I already have the non-switchblade transponder key as a back-up and I wanted a regular key fob to go with it.

[Gil Elvgren]

I am not having any luck programing a new key for my '12.

Bought this key from extreme deals - http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mazda-m3-m6-4d-transponder-smart-key-16640

I had local locksmith cut the blank key. The newly cut key turned the door lock but since it was not programmed it would not unlock the door.

I came home and printed out the instructions in the 1st post for registering an additional key using two valid keys.

1. Insert Key 1, turn the ignition switch to ON, verify security light illuminates for aprox. 3 seconds then goes out.
2. Insert Key 2 - same.
3. Insert Key 3 (new key) - turn ignition switch to ON - security lights flashes and keeps on flashing.

New key does not unlock door nor start car. New key will lock door and turn ignition switch to ON. I will try again tomorrow, I hope I did not blow $11.00 on a Key that won't work. Next step will be to order a key cut using the VIN from Montgomery Mazda.

Gil

[icspots]

Unless Mazda changed something and added RFID readers into the doors then a properly cut key should unlock the doors...... I mean it's just a mechanical tumbler.

[icspots]

Will a non-switchblade remote fob from a Mazda3 work on a Mazda5? I already have the non-switchblade transponder key as a back-up and I wanted a regular key fob to go with it.

You'd need to play around and see if any of the regular remote fobs work on the same coding as the Mz5 flip key. Not all of them are the same.

[Gil Elvgren]

O.K. , so what iscpots said makes sense, I went back to the locksmith who shaved off a fraction recutting the key. The key will now lock and unlock the door. However, it still will not program to start the car.

1. Key one, ignition on, security light on for 3 secs. then off.
2. Key two, same.
3. Key three, ignition on but security light just flashes and does not go off. Car will not start.

Maybe I got a bad RFID key.

[Davebert]

O.K. , so what iscpots said makes sense, I went back to the locksmith who shaved off a fraction recutting the key. The key will now lock and unlock the door. However, it still will not program to start the car.

1. Key one, ignition on, security light on for 3 secs. then off.
2. Key two, same.
3. Key three, ignition on but security light just flashes and does not go off. Car will not start.

Maybe I got a bad RFID key.


Hi Gil, are you sure you got a key with the transponder? The transponder chip is located in a cavity behind the Mazda emblem. You can check and see if you have the chip by prying the emblem off. The chip is plastic, rectangular shaped, and is glued inside this cavity. Or, you just might have gotten a defective key.

[Gil Elvgren]

Checked key - popped emblem and it does have a transponder chip as described above but it is not glued inside the cavity as I can remove it. Tried to program again tonight but still did not work. Think I will give deal extreme customer service a shot. Then plan B - Montgomery Mazda and my dealer to check prices on a third key. I really want to have a third key programmed for a backup.

[Gil Elvgren]

Update. I bought a third key from my local dealer for $28. Part No. F141762GX. I programmed it myself in about 30 seconds using the above process. Interesting part is they punched it out rather than cut it. Used my Key number to setup a machine that looked like a one-hole paper puncher that they hit with their hand to punch cut my key. They were impressed with the price of my Internet Key - $9.50 shipped free from Hong Kong, however, I was not impressed with the qualtity. You sometimes get what you pay for, in this case, I got a cheap key with a dead Transformer chip.

Gil

[Heat]

Update. I bought a third key from my local dealer for $28. Part No. F141762GX. I programmed it myself in about 30 seconds using the above process...
Everybody should buy one of these as a backup, or for times when you think that your keys might get wet. This is the only key I use (smaller than the switchblade style key, so easier to keep on my keychain in my pocket).

[jivenene]

Now completely separately I've heard from some Mz3 owners that you can get some locksmiths to "clone" a RFID key for you. Basically overwrite the RFID of a new key to match an existing key. So you'd end up with two physical keys which worked, but you wouldn't be able to use them to program additional new keys since the car would see them as the same key. Apparently people have had this done really inexpensively so it might be something to look into.

Ourmazdas, I also saw this advertised at Ace Hardware. They claim they can copy my single M5 key for $90. Is it true then that all they are doing is cloning the key and really the CAR needs to be programmed to accept a new unique key in order to be able to use those two to program a third? So it really does mean that you have to take your car in to the dealer, absolutely no other options? No hacks out there through the ODB II port to simulate the WDS (what the hell is that anyway) system?

*EDIT*
So after reading through this thread for 2 hours, yes, one key people like me have no choice but to visit the dealer, unless they want a clone key (from Ace or locksmith) which will not allow them to make a 3rd key. I am going the eBay route for a key/fob combo, seems like people have had success with that.

On a side note, I challenge anyone to tell us what "fob" stands for, or where the term came from.
Also, what is the DWS or WDS system that Mazda dealers use to make keys?

Anyone?

Jive

[thiscloud]

(Sigh, my web browser just ate this long post... :( Gonna try again!)

First post, please be gentle. :-) I have a 2010 Mazda5 Sport AT. I somehow lost just the upper half of my switchblade fob, the part that houses the key and transponder*, and am looking to replace it. As I understand it, I only need to buy G2YA762GXB (the "key half") since I still have the "remote half" (CC43675RYC) and it still works.

I can find G2YA762GXB on OnlineMazdaParts.com and also here (https://www.remotesandkeys.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=6132A), but since I'll also have to pay the dealer to program the keys, I was hoping for the part to be more affordable, maybe aftermarket or even used/cut, and I could just buy a blank blade and have it cut and inserted into the key half of the fob.

So I turn to eBay for cheaper alternatives, but searching G2YA762GXB only returns full fobs, not just the key half, and they're all cut. I did find two listings, one new (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAZDA-REMOTE-HEAD-FLIP-KEY-KEYLESS-REPLACEMENT-BLADE-/120668381405), one used (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAZDA-REMOTE-HEAD-FLIP-KEY-KEYLESS-REPLACEMENT-BLADE-/110632653233), for uncut key halves, but the part number used was not something I've come across here or on other Mazda-related forums: NEY5762GXA.

I searched for NEY5762GXA on OnlineMazdaParts.com and the description under OEM Catalog was "KEY,BLANK-PRIMARY" but unfortunately no picture or list of compatible cars was available. For reference, the OEM Catalog description of G2YA762GXB was "KEY,RETRACTABLE KEY" with various descriptions under the Collision Catalog. They could be the same part, but I wonder why NEY5762GXA is more expensive than G2YA762GXB there.

$15 used and $20 new for what's listed on eBay as OEM parts for the key half of the fob is a great price. The listings say they're compatible with my car, but I want to know if they'll fit with the remote half of my fob. If anyone is familiar with part NEY5762GXA, please shed some light. Thanks!


*I read post #26 on this thread, but I'm still confused on terminology. As I understand it, the half that I lost is part G2YA762GXB, with the key and transponder (RFID chip under Mazda logo). The other half, with the buttons, is part CC43675RYC. The "key half" is around $50 retail (OEM) and the "remote half" is around $150 retail (OEM). However, on this thread and in other forum posts on this and other Mazda-related sites, the term "transponder" sometimes seems to refer to the remote half as well.

For example, in post #26 itself, Heat describes CC43675RYC as the "transponder part of switchblade style key" [emphasis mine] and G2YA762GXB as the "key part of switchblade style key" (which I interpret as not having a transponder). Later in that post he describes F1Y1762GX as a "normal" key "without the transponder / fob" [emphasis mine], but as I understand it, that type of key does have a transponder in it and can be used to start the car if programmed. Is there a transponder in both halves of the remote?

[professorhank]

thiscloud, you brought up some great points about the terminology that we use here and I'm actually surprised no one's responded yet. I bought a used Mz5 2 years ago, got 1 fob, and never followed through on getting a 2nd. Well, I spent about an hour perusing the 137 posts in this thread and came away thinking that the transponder is the chip required to start the car and is located in the remote part of the fob. Then your post clarified where the chip is really located. For the last 2 days, I decided to detach the remote from my fob and used only the key portion to start and drive my car and it works fine (the remote was in the back seat, not sure if I needed to completely remove it from the car). The chip is in the key portion of the fob. The word transponder is a little misleading because I think most people associate that word with what actually will allow your engine to start.

The whole reason I'm investigating this is because I'm wondering if there's a way to bypass the immobilizer feature by affixing the chip inside the steering column somehow and use cheapo $3 keys to start and drive the car. I think it sucks to have to spend $150+ for a 2nd fob and programming that you may not ever need. And I'm not particularly worried about theft. The Mz5 is not really a chop-shop car and what thief would wanna take a van (let's face it, most people think of it as a van but we know better) on a joyride?

[jcrog]

So I bought an fob off ebay and the dealer said he couldn't cut it right so it wouldn''t turn. He sold me a new key and I haggled a lower price since it was their issue.

Anyway since I had an extra key-end I got a key shell from dealextreme and dismantled the key-end from ebay. I stuck the transponder into the shell, but it won't program.

Any ideas why this wouldn't work.

Thanks,
jcrog

[jivenene]

Ourmazdas, I also saw this advertised at Ace Hardware. They claim they can copy my single M5 key for $90. Is it true then that all they are doing is cloning the key and really the CAR needs to be programmed to accept a new unique key in order to be able to use those two to program a third? So it really does mean that you have to take your car in to the dealer, absolutely no other options? No hacks out there through the ODB II port to simulate the WDS (what the hell is that anyway) system?

*EDIT*
So after reading through this thread for 2 hours, yes, one key people like me have no choice but to visit the dealer, unless they want a clone key (from Ace or locksmith) which will not allow them to make a 3rd key. I am going the eBay route for a key/fob combo, seems like people have had success with that.

On a side note, I challenge anyone to tell us what "fob" stands for, or where the term came from.
Also, what is the DWS or WDS system that Mazda dealers use to make keys?

Anyone?

Jive

OK, the more you learn, the more you realize how much you don't know.

I thought that only the dealer can program the car to accept a 2nd key, but i was wrong. Yesterday, i went to a large local locksmith, and they connected a programmer to my ODBII port and programmed my other 2 keys to work with the car. These 2 keys i got from eBay, one complete OEM switchblade key, and one simple key with chip inside. All 3 keys work to start the car now, and they charged me $50 vs. $110 what the dealer wanted to charge me.

So, to wrap up, you DO NOT need to get your second key programmed at the dealer! A locksmith with the right tool can do it for 1/2 the cost!

Jive

[electronics4lif]

Does anyone know if this (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mazda-m6-4d-transponder-smart-key-16639) key should also work in our cars once programmed? The $9.39 key (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mazda-m3-m6-4d-transponder-smart-key-16640) is out of stock.

[pkthomas]

Does anybody know if there is an external key pad like on Fords? Or will a Ford one work? I noticed That the Mustangs have the same switch blade keys. The 3 and 5 share a platform with the Focus. It is nice to make it very difficult to lock your keys in the car.

[GBean]

Does anybody know if there is an external key pad like on Fords? Or will a Ford one work? I noticed That the Mustangs have the same switch blade keys. The 3 and 5 share a platform with the Focus. It is nice to make it very difficult to lock your keys in the car.

I highly doubt it. But if you could make one work, then you are a genius.

[Heat]

… Later in that post he describes F1Y1762GX as a "normal" key "without the transponder / fob" [emphasis mine], but as I understand it, that type of key does have a transponder in it and can be used to start the car if programmed. Is there a transponder in both halves of the remote?
Transponder: The thing with buttons that you can press to tell the car to lock / unlock
Chip: The thing in the key that tells the car "this key is OK, go ahead and start the car"

And I can’t emphasize enough how great of a key Part # F1Y1762GX is. It’s smaller than the switchblade style key which is important if you keep your keys in your pants pocket, water proof*, and to an extent shock proof. And it is a lot cheaper than the switchblade style key. This is the Mazda key that I keep on my key ring.

And with regard to the comment about the cost of programming – if you order from the place I referenced before, Montgomery Mazda, the keys will come pre-cut based off of your VIN. The prices in Post #26 include cutting. You still have to program the chip of course which is very easy… assuming you have two working keys.

* When I go to the local water park I keep it in a pocket in my shorts, it is submerged for long periods of time. Water doesn’t hurt it. It’s a "normal" key. As for the shock proof - it's a normal key. If I set it on the ground and threw a baseball at it, it wouldn't be damaged.

[thiscloud]

I think I may have found what the parts were that I couldn't identify. I found a service bulletin (http://www.mpvclub.com/tsb.php?id=161) to help people distinguish between similar or identical looking keys between the 2005 models of the Miata, RX-8, and MPV. That bulletin has the G2YA-76-2GX as the "Retractable Key Blank" for the 05 RX-8, which uses a "PATS coded access antitheft ignition system", and the NEY5-76-2GX as the "Retractable Key Blank" for the 05 Miata, which uses an "Immobilizer anti-theft ignition system", so they are not compatible.

Since it was so hard to find anything confirming that the NEY5-76-2GX would work with the 2010 Mazda5, and the G2YA-76-2GX is all over the Mazda5 forums, I'm assuming that my Mazda5 uses the PATS system, so the NEY5-76-2GX would not work with it. Anyone know any more?

[electronics4lif]

Since the generic transponder key was out of stock at Dealextreme.com, I ended up purchasing a transponder key from mykeyless-1 on ebay for $8.95. Here is a LINK (http://tinyurl.com/5rz2fdp) to the key I purchased. My local hardware store cut the key for me. I programmed it using the instructions at the the beginning of this thread in about 60 seconds.

[professorhank]

And I can’t emphasize enough how great of a key Part # F1Y1762GX is. It’s smaller than the switchblade style key which is important if you keep your keys in your pants pocket, water proof*, and to an extent shock proof. And it is a lot cheaper than the switchblade style key. This is the Mazda key that I keep on my key ring.

Heat, do you manually lock/unlock the doors? Do you know if a KPU41794 remote (from Mazda3) can be programmed to work with the 5? I think it was mentioned earlier that programming the remote door lock button does not require 2 working remotes.

[musashi23]

Thanks to this forum, I got my key replaced w/o getting ripped off.

I managed to lose my key, and my spare's alarm part doesn't work. But, at least I could still unlock and drive the car. The dealer wanted $310 ($210 for the key, the fob, and cuttting it; $100 for programming it). Not to mention I'll lose the car for the day sitting at the dealer. I almost fainted when I heard the quote, but thankfully I remember about this forum. After reading everyone's different experiences, I almost bought a keyfob off the internet. But I couldn't find anyone locally to program it.

Then I decided to spread my search out to New Jersey and, voila, I found NJ Locksmith in North Bergen. I called and told them what I have, he has the key in stock, and quoted me $150 for the whole job. He got the job done in about 20 minutes, also reflasing the keys so the old ones wouldn't work. He also made me a regular key w/o the fob.

So thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences, as I almost immediately went to the dealer. Also thanks to Heat for the tip in having a "regular" key for when going to places like Sesame Place (or taking it to my p/t work in my case, so I can just hook it to my belt. With the fob I had to rubber band it so I don't accidentally open it up and loosen up the key).

Sorry for the long post, just expressing thanks to the forum here.

[Heat]

Heat, do you manually lock/unlock the doors? Do you know if a KPU41794 remote (from Mazda3) can be programmed to work with the 5? I think it was mentioned earlier that programming the remote door lock button does not require 2 working remotes.
Yes, I manually unlock the doors which is sort of a pain since the only keyhole is the driver's door.

As far as the KPU41794 goes, I have no idea, I haven't played around with that key.

[professorhank]

Yes, I manually unlock the doors which is sort of a pain since the only keyhole is the driver's door.

As far as the KPU41794 goes, I have no idea, I haven't played around with that key.

KPU41794 doesn't seem to work. I think some ignorant sellers are listing the Mazda5 as compatible with this remote when I believe they mean the Mazda3 5-door. Looks like the only remote option for us is the bottom half of the switchblade fob. Since I have 1 complete OEM fob, all I really needed was a spare key that could manually open the door and start the engine. After calling about 12 different locksmiths in LA/San Gabriel Valley, I finally found one (Foothill Lock/Key in Pasadena). I was skeptical but for $65, they sold me a key (no remote), cut and "cloned". I didn't ask the locksmith but some people here mention "programming" and others recently talked about "cloning". With cloning, I can't produce a 3rd key with my 1 OEM and 1 clone. I'm OK with this. Heck, even if I get another clone, $130 is still cheaper than 1 programmed OEM from any dealer.

[jcrog]

The key that electronics4lif mentioned from mykeyless-1 is awesome. Cut for $1 and programmed in seconds!

[MaineMazda5]

Thanls all for the great info. I have a 2012 Mazda5. I purchased 2 keys from ikeyless (https://www.ikeyless.com/vehicles/Mazda/MAZDA5/2012/1000391/), because they were the only one I could find that said the key would work in a 2012 model. I had a locksmith cut (very difficult to get it to unlock the door, took some fine cutting). I was able to program using two factory keys and instructions in this thread. Note that on their site it said you had to go to the dealer to program the 2012 key, but for 2006-2010 it said it could be programmed by the owner with two keys. I wonder if there is any difference with the 2012 key from previous models. Either way the keys programmed and worked great. The cost is $20 for the first key and $13 for additional keys.

[Janw]

Mazda 5 2010

I am down to one key and was shocked at the cost of the replacement. I found out the programming instructions but does any one know where to find the appropriate fob for the 2010 switchblade 3 button style? Jan

[JKoscoe]

I know this is for programming but how do you change the battery? One fob is dead and the other is almost there or do i have to replace both fobs? We are relatively new to Mazda5 ownership. Thanks

[JKoscoe]

I know this is for programming but how do you change the battery? One fob is dead and the other is almost there or do i have to replace both fobs? We are relatively new to Mazda5 ownership. Thanks

Sorry, it's a 2007.

[JKoscoe]

Sorry, it's a 2007.

Got it!

[mkw]

Go ebay.
But you must check the "something like series no." first (very long and they will show you how to open the key fob to check) to make sure the seller has the one match with you so that you can program the new one in the future.


Mazda 5 2010

I am down to one key and was shocked at the cost of the replacement. I found out the programming instructions but does any one know where to find the appropriate fob for the 2010 switchblade 3 button style? Jan

[Fly on the Wall]

FYI, Montgomery Mazda, aka onlinemazdaparts.com seems to have raised their price on the chipped key w/out remote to $32.89- "F1Y1762GX $42.18 $0.00 $32.89"

Also, $6.30 for a NON oem chipped key w/out remote - http://www.mostbuying.com/cheap-discount-Mazda-M3M6-4D-Transponder-Smart-Key--Key-Case--Cover-cz00010-online-shopping_g6427.html
I think this is the same key others have filed down to make work.

[rkhanso]

I contacted DealExtreme today because I still haven't received the plain transponder key I ordered back in April (not for the remote). They said they won't get any more and refunded my money.

I found a cheaper key on eBay and just bought one. The seller is mykeyless-1
I don't know the seller and haven't actually received the blank transponder key yet, but if you're looking for a key, check him out. The key is $8.75 with free shipping....shipped from the USA instead of China!! faster shipping time....nice.

[nheather]

Hi,

I have a UK spec Mazda 5 (2006).

I still have the two original keyless remotes and they both work. The problem is that over the years the small plastic tabs that hold the buttons in place have fatigued and broken. Now the buttons fall out unless held down by tape.

I bought a third remote from eBay, hoping to swap the buttons over but although identical on the outside the interior is a modified design meaning that I couldn't reuse the buttons or swap the electronics over.

So I decided to try and program the new remote.

I read the PDF at the start of this thread and established that my car uses the Type B procedure.

I follow the procedure and the car goes into programming mode, confirmed by the door locking then unlocking.

But after that the procedure does not respond to any of the remotes. I have tried the original key first, and the new key first but neither causes the ECU to responds with a 'lock then unlock'.

Afterwards the two originals work fine but the new one doesn't.

Any ideas - inititially I thought it was a problem with the new key but after trying an original key first and getting no response, I'm not convinced.

Cheers,

Nigel

[schokie]

Bought a chipped key from mykeyless-1 on Ebay and got it cut by the local locksmith. It will start the car (after programming) but won't unlock the doors. Obviously didn't quite get the cut right. No biggie, only bought a 4th just to have in case we lost one.