NO more blue smoke!

[niz55]

Well as some of you know that i had a problem with my car blowing blue smoke when I took out my last small cat. I just put on the stock cat and nothing! No more blue smoke! I'm so happy! Never again taking it out. (alright)

[SuperStretch18]

The issue was not the cat; you have a turbo that's burning oil. Bigger issue than just a little smoke and the cat is just masking the issue...

See here (long read, but worth it):
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123691179&highlight=smoking+turbo

[Powerslave]

so what did you take out that cuased the blue smoke the second downstream cat? midpipe?? or downpipe? this would be helpful as i'm conserding getting a midpipe

[niz55]

so what did you take out that cuased the blue smoke the second downstream cat? midpipe?? or downpipe? this would be helpful as i'm conserding getting a midpipe


The one i circled with green.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/niz55/CP-E20DP-1.jpg

[niz55]

The issue was not the cat; you have a turbo that's burning oil. Bigger issue than just a little smoke and the cat is just masking the issue...

See here (long read, but worth it):
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123691179&highlight=smoking+turbo

This started happening when i took it out of my car. My cr had only 1500 miles. So your telling me on a 2008 brand new car the turbo is bad?

[Powerslave]

THANKS!!! i have all 3 resinators cut out with no problems i was about to get rid of the green one, i might rethink that... ps it sound great with the resianators cut out

[Powerslave]

if you check out the vid on the front of my myspace page thats what it sounds like with both cats and no resiantors from there "striaght pipe"

[SuperStretch18]

This started happening when i took out my car. My cr had only 1500 miles. So your telling me on a 2008 brand new car the turbo is bad?

I'm saying that blue smoke is burning oil that the cat can not be causing. It is possible that the stock cat is hiding the issue from you, but there is no way that a cat can CAUSE an issue like that...

[niz55]

I'm saying that blue smoke is burning oil that the cat can not be causing. It is possible that the stock cat is hiding the issue from you, but there is no way that a cat can CAUSE an issue like that...

You have a very good point. But no one with their 2008 ms3 had problems with the blue smoke. Mazda cant hide this issue. I payed 24k for this car and if their is anything wrong with the turbo, I will promise you they will replace it.

[niz55]

THANKS!!! i have all 3 resinators cut out with no problems i was about to get rid of the green one, i might rethink that... ps it sound great with the resianators cut out

3 resinators? I see only 2. Where is the other one?

[SuperStretch18]

x1000

Yah, if you check out the next to last page of the thread I posted, guy named voicekoil says that apparently they have some test they can run to see if the turbo is leaking, even if you have the stock exhaust on...

[Powerslave]

3 resinators? I see only 2. Where is the other one?

the last muffler "looking" thing is really just a straight thru resinator it just looks like a muffler

[niz55]

the last muffler "looking" thing is really just a straight thru resinator it just looks like a muffler

I see.. Is better off just to hold back with the test pipe. Even if our turbos are bad, I just dont want to see that blue smoke.

[jam_asian85]

The cat in the downpipe and testpipe are there to convert the exhaust gas, by removing them, it makes the problem more noticeable, throw back either one on, then the problem is gone, thats what they're there for. The problem is, the speed6, speed3 and CX-7 have weak turbo seals, so when anyone removes both cats from the exhaust then you will notice the problem more.

[niz55]

if you check out the vid on the front of my myspace page thats what it sounds like with both cats and no resiantors from there "striaght pipe"

yep same as mine. But yours is little louder because you took out the last one.

[Powerslave]

yeah i do like the sound with out that second cat though a freind has the same setup as mine but with the testpipe and it is sounds seriuos! mine is nice his sounds like a true warrior...

[niz55]

The cat in the downpipe and testpipe are there to convert the exhaust gas, by removing them, it makes the problem more noticeable, throw back either one on, then the problem is gone, thats what they're there for. The problem is, the speed6, speed3 and CX-7 have weak turbo seals, so when anyone removes both cats from the exhaust then you will notice the problem more.

So if our cars have weak turbo seals, we should be losing oil. But now i will check my oil level everyday to see if it's true.

[AutoXRacer]

So if our cars have weak turbo seals, we should be losing oil. But now i will check my oil level everyday to see if it's true.

Its not a significant amount of oil... You should not see a difference in oil level. Remember, that a small drop of oil creates a huge cloud of smoke!!

The actual oil leak from the turbo seals is probably a light mist, but its enough to cause a smoke cloud!!!

I say get it fixed ASAP!!!!!

[SharkDiver]

the last muffler "looking" thing is really just a straight thru resinator it just looks like a muffler

The last muffler looking thing is really a muffler.This car has 2 resonators and 1 muffler and 2 cats stock.

[Powerslave]

The last muffler looking thing is really a muffler.This car has 2 resonators and 1 muffler and 2 cats stock.

a resinator is a straight thru design thats what the "muffler" looking thing is, just cuase it looks like a muffler doesn't mean it is one... a muffler a many chambers nooks and crannies

[niz55]

Its not a significant amount of oil... You should not see a difference in oil level. Remember, that a small drop of oil creates a huge cloud of smoke!!

The actual oil leak from the turbo seals is probably a light mist, but its enough to cause a smoke cloud!!!

I say get it fixed ASAP!!!!!

now how can i prove this to the dealer? As soon as i go their, they look at you like your fucking criminal with a $25,000 car. WTF do u want!

[peterdaniel]

I think all of you guys are real idiots for messing with a perfectly good factory system and violating the law as well.

Sheesh, how old are you guys anyways?

Not only that, you probably voided your warranty and I know for sure, most people will run for the hills if you were to try and sell them the car with a hacked up exhaust

Plus, you gain nothing, or at least something so small it wasn't worth the trouble.

if I were Mazda, I would completely void your warranty, and your nice new very technical car can go up in more than just blue smoke...

Sheesh, why can't folks just leave things be?

[peterdaniel]

now how can i prove this to the dealer? As soon as i go their, they look at you like your fucking criminal with a $25,000 car. WTF do u want!


well, I wouldn't call you a "criminal" persay, but what you did was illegal.. Sort of like the low life losers that go out and commit a viscous crime, hurt other people and then in the course of events get shot or beat up and then they come to my emergency room asking for "help" if it was up to me... I would tell them to go(humpleg)


lol... Of course, thats not you.. but what do you want Mazda to do for you?

yeah, they might not cover your warranty and yes of course they will use every excuse in the book, but then its on your ass and your time and your trouble to prove them wrong..

Is it really worth the perceived gains you got from doing what you did??

[SuperStretch18]

So long as you have the stock exhaust on, it should go something like:

niz55: "Every so often, I get a huge cloud of blue smoke on idle; it doesn't seem normal and I'm worried that there is something wrong with my new car."

Dealer: "If we can't replicate it, then we can't fix it...blah, blah, blah"

niz55: "I understand that, but I have heard that there have been issues with turbo seals failing and there is a diagnostic that you can run to check for issues."

Dealer: "I've never heard of that, you must have read that on an internet forum... blah, blah..."

niz55: "I learned it because a friend had a similar issue and another dealer was able to help him. Maybe I should just go there, as they are probably more equiped to work on the mazdaspeed vehicles..."

Dealer: "Let me ask one of the service guys and see what they can do..."

Your just asking them to take a look at the car. They might charge you a fee if they don't find anything, but if you were getting blue smoke, it is unlikely that there are no issues.

If you haven't sent in your dealer survey from the original purchase, I would play that card with the salesman, as that directly impacts their bonuses...

[SuperStretch18]

I think all of you guys are real idiots for messing with a perfectly good factory system and violating the law as well.

Sheesh, how old are you guys anyways?

Not only that, you probably voided your warranty and I know for sure, most people will run for the hills if you were to try and sell them the car with a hacked up exhaust

Plus, you gain nothing, or at least something so small it wasn't worth the trouble.

if I were Mazda, I would completely void your warranty, and your nice new very technical car can go up in more than just blue smoke...

Sheesh, why can't folks just leave things be?

It makes me feel superior to have a car that's faster than stock. Probably similar to the feeling you got from writing your responses...

Tsk, tsk everyone; tsk, tsk...

The real point is that the issue is not DUE to the modifications the OP made; they ALLOWED him to see an existing issue with the "perfectly good factory system"...

[niz55]

So long as you have the stock exhaust on, it should go something like:

niz55: "Every so often, I get a huge cloud of blue smoke on idle; it doesn't seem normal and I'm worried that there is something wrong with my new car."

Dealer: "If we can't replicate it, then we can't fix it...blah, blah, blah"

niz55: "I understand that, but I have heard that there have been issues with turbo seals failing and there is a diagnostic that you can run to check for issues."

Dealer: "I've never heard of that, you must have read that on an internet forum... blah, blah..."

niz55: "I learned it because a friend had a similar issue and another dealer was able to help him. Maybe I should just go there, as they are probably more equiped to work on the mazdaspeed vehicles..."

Dealer: "Let me ask one of the service guys and see what they can do..."

Your just asking them to take a look at the car. They might charge you a fee if they don't find anything, but if you were getting blue smoke, it is unlikely that there are no issues.

If you haven't sent in your dealer survey from the original purchase, I would play that card with the salesman, as that directly impacts their bonuses..

WOW. I was just their right now and the same thing happend. Amazing! He told me where is the smoke? I told him it does not smoke with the factory cat, I told him it happend when i replaced the cat with a testpipe. Ok, cant cover the car if it is modeified. Wtf? Fucking making me crazy. He told me the blue smoke is normal if you dont have a cat. So after 10 min he started yelling at me. I asked him is it ok if i talk to one of the techs, and he said no they are busy. I asked him can i at least get a drawing of the turbocharger on our cars? He said sure and we went inside to parts dep. I explained everything to the parts guy and even he said is not normal. They told me they had replaced a turbo on CX-7 that had 120,000 miles. Lots of miles for a new car dont you guys think? But yeh is not going anywhere. As long as it does not do it when u have the stock exhaust you cant do shit about it. And if you mod ur exhaust, Well, Bye bye Warranty. They got us traped. When my shit goes bad then i will go to the dealer. So fuck it! Fuck mazda Turbo's and their service advisor.

PS.. He told me our cars loose 1qt of oil every 1500 miles. Is this true? It was also in the warranty book he showed me.

[SharkDiver]

a resinator is a straight thru design thats what the "muffler" looking thing is, just cuase it looks like a muffler doesn't mean it is one... a muffler a many chambers nooks and crannies

Its a muffler...If they wanted a resonator there they would use the same resonators as the other 2.If you look in it you will see the honeycomb sides that are there to muffle the sound.Just because its a straight thru design doesnt mean its a resonator.Not all mufflers have chambers...

[niz55]

well, I wouldn't call you a "criminal" persay, but what you did was illegal.. Sort of like the low life losers that go out and commit a viscous crime, hurt other people and then in the course of events get shot or beat up and then they come to my emergency room asking for "help" if it was up to me... I would tell them to go(humpleg)


lol... Of course, thats not you.. but what do you want Mazda to do for you?

yeah, they might not cover your warranty and yes of course they will use every excuse in the book, but then its on your ass and your time and your trouble to prove them wrong..

Is it really worth the perceived gains you got from doing what you did??

Do you even own a mazda speed3? I had lots of turbo cars in the past. Wrx, srt-4 vr-4, gsx and all of them had full 3" Tb. I never seen any blue smoke blow out of them untill now on fucking brand new 2008 speed3.

[Powerslave]

Its a muffler...If they wanted a resonator there they would use the same resonators as the other 2.If you look in it you will see the honeycomb sides that are there to muffle the sound.Just because its a straight thru design doesnt mean its a resonator.Not all mufflers have chambers...

honey comb sides just like the other 2 resiantors, they just made it look like a muffler a true muffler has chambers in it. if you want to believe its a muffler thats ok....

[Powerslave]

in the end a resinator muffles the sound so you could say the car has 3 mufflers...BUT the straight thru design is a trademark of th resiantor

[niz55]

in the end a resinator muffles the sound so you could say the car has 3 mufflers...BUT the straight thru design is a trademark of th resiantor

true..

[Powerslave]

also i must say i was most pleased with the sound when i removed the 3rd and final resinator(lol2) if i would have known how it would sound i would have removed all 3 at once

[AutoXRacer]

WOW. I was just their right now and the same thing happend. Amazing! He told me where is the smoke? I told him it does not smoke with the factory cat, I told him it happend when i replaced the cat with a testpipe. Ok, cant cover the car if it is modeified. Wtf? Fucking making me crazy. He told me the blue smoke is normal if you dont have a cat. So after 10 min he started yelling at me. I asked him is it ok if i talk to one of the techs, and he said no they are busy. I asked him can i at least get a drawing of the turbocharger on our cars? He said sure and we went inside to parts dep. I explained everything to the parts guy and even he said is not normal. They told me they had replaced a turbo on CX-7 that had 120,000 miles. Lots of miles for a new car dont you guys think? But yeh is not going anywhere. As long as it does not do it when u have the stock exhaust you cant do shit about it. And if you mod ur exhaust, Well, Bye bye Warranty. They got us traped. When my shit goes bad then i will go to the dealer. So fuck it! Fuck mazda Turbo's and their service advisor.

PS.. He told me our cars loose 1qt of oil every 1500 miles. Is this true? It was also in the warranty book he showed me.

Its not normal for a car to burn 1qt of oil in 1500 miles...thats just crazy talk!!!

You can always play the game...the dealer can not VOID your warrantee. They have to prove that the modification you made caused the failure. If they can not technically prove it, they can not void your warrantee.

Do you have another mazda dealer in the area?

Its common sense that a car is not supposed to smoke. I would have spoken to the general manager... And I would give Mazda North America a call...the Mazda customer service number. There have been numberous Mazdaspeed3 owners that have had their turbos replaced...

Don't give up...

[SuperStretch18]

WOW. I was just their right now and the same thing happend. Amazing! He told me where is the smoke? I told him it does not smoke with the factory cat, I told him it happend when i replaced the cat with a testpipe. Ok, cant cover the car if it is modeified. Wtf? Fucking making me crazy. He told me the blue smoke is normal if you dont have a cat. So after 10 min he started yelling at me. I asked him is it ok if i talk to one of the techs, and he said no they are busy. I asked him can i at least get a drawing of the turbocharger on our cars? He said sure and we went inside to parts dep. I explained everything to the parts guy and even he said is not normal. They told me they had replaced a turbo on CX-7 that had 120,000 miles. Lots of miles for a new car dont you guys think? But yeh is not going anywhere. As long as it does not do it when u have the stock exhaust you cant do shit about it. And if you mod ur exhaust, Well, Bye bye Warranty. They got us traped. When my shit goes bad then i will go to the dealer. So fuck it! Fuck mazda Turbo's and their service advisor.

PS.. He told me our cars loose 1qt of oil every 1500 miles. Is this true? It was also in the warranty book he showed me.

Shouldn't have mentioned removing the cat, but in any case...

There is no such thing as a service tech voiding your warranty. Mazda USA can, but your local service department can not. The implication he made is that if a spring blew, that wouldn't be covered by warranty, which is bull. I would have pulled Magnuson-Moss so fast his head would spin...

By the way, how the hell did you get an appointment so fast?!?

[HIGHBRED8]

well, I wouldn't call you a "criminal" persay, but what you did was illegal.. Sort of like the low life losers that go out and commit a viscous crime, hurt other people and then in the course of events get shot or beat up and then they come to my emergency room asking for "help" if it was up to me... I would tell them to go(humpleg)


lol... Of course, thats not you.. but what do you want Mazda to do for you?

yeah, they might not cover your warranty and yes of course they will use every excuse in the book, but then its on your ass and your time and your trouble to prove them wrong..

Is it really worth the perceived gains you got from doing what you did??

ok now your just being a drama queen. Comparing someone who altered their exhaust to a common criminal, and "your" e.r? Ha unless your a physician then its not "your" e.r and I really doubt a doctor would misspell vicious (unless you were speaking of their gelatinous properties?) No, your arrogant attitude sounds more like a cocky tech or bitchy r.n. so go back to filling paper work and connecting ekg's that you struggle to read and stop making someone who did absolutely nothing wrong and is complaining of an underlying issue which was uncovered by a modification that is hardly to blame for any malfunction feel like they are at fault . oh and before you call the gains this gives "minimal" maybe you should at least check into your statements and you would see that they average 30-50 hp gains with exhaust, not so minimal.

now had this been about street racing or b.s like that then your hissy fit may have been merited, but in this case your simply being annoying. So please, with all due respect (which i will give you a tad of for being in the same field as I) if you cant give helpful input then keep your ridiculous notions to your self.

as for the smoke. it does come from a oil seal leak, it is hidden by the cats, it will eventually get worse (could be a long time though) and the end result wont be good. my suggestion is to find a dealer who is more understanding, or speak directly to a tech who should know something about this. there is no reason for them not to cover this because the problem exist with or without the test pipe. you just need to find someone who can pull their head out their ass long enough to hear you out.

[SharkDiver]

honey comb sides just like the other 2 resiantors, they just made it look like a muffler a true muffler has chambers in it. if you want to believe its a muffler thats ok....

If my memory is correct the resonators dont have honycomb sides,They are hollow.Why do you think mazda would make a resonator look like a muffler?Thats not very cost effective.Dont you think they would use the same resonator as the other 2 if they wanted 3 resonators??IF you dont beleave me call your mazda dealer and ask them.Ive had a few mufflers on my cars that are straight thru,That dont make them resonators.The honycombs are there to muffle the sound hense the name Muffler.If you want to beleave its a resonator then thats ok..

[Powerslave]

so by your own words the car has no resinators and 3 mufflers instaed of 2 resiantors and 1 muffler??

[Powerslave]

our resiantors are hollow... they just have the honey comb sides..

[Powerslave]

our resiantors are hollow with honeycomb sides that is the definition of a resiantors look it up on yahoo. a muffler has chambers etc... here is a pic of a hollow resiantor like the one by our bumper...

[SharkDiver]

so by your own words the car has no resinators and 3 mufflers instaed of 2 resiantors and 1 muffler??

You beleave what you want...Im not goint to go thru this again./

[Powerslave]

you know you should have deleted the last resiantor......lol

[niz55]

Shouldn't have mentioned removing the cat, but in any case...

There is no such thing as a service tech voiding your warranty. Mazda USA can, but your local service department can not. The implication he made is that if a spring blew, that wouldn't be covered by warranty, which is bull. I would have pulled Magnuson-Moss so fast his head would spin...

By the way, how the hell did you get an appointment so fast?!?

I just drove in and he came out and helped me out. So what should i do? Put back the test pipe? Because if i run the stock cat their will be no smoke.
I also called Turbo international and they told me the same about a bad turbo seal. I also called Turbo power and guess what, Bad turbo seal.

[bykeryder4life]

dude your trippin our car has two resonators that lead to a muffler just before the rear of the car. call mazda and ask i am sure the last one isnt a resonator. like said before it would look like the other two, but it doesnt because it is something different with a different function- a muffler!

[Powerslave]

dude your trippin our car has two resonators that lead to a muffler just before the rear of the car. call mazda and ask i am sure the last one isnt a resonator. like said before it would look like the other two, but it doesnt because it is something different with a different function- a muffler!

no its a resinator just like this one, this is a resiantor not a muffler, though in theory you can say resinators are mufflers. mufflers have chambers

[AutoXRacer]

OK, enough talk about muffins and respirators!!!!...uh, I meant mufflers and resonators... (blah) (lol2)

Anyone have any advice for niz55...?

[SharkDiver]

OK, enough talk about muffins and respirators!!!!...uh, I meant mufflers and resonators... (blah) (lol2)

Anyone have any advice for niz55...?

No...

[SharkDiver]

you know you should have deleted the last resiantor......lol

To be honest I think mine is a hair to loud the way it is now.Its so much better then stock tho...

[SuperStretch18]

I just drove in and he came out and helped me out. So what should i do? Put back the test pipe? Because if i run the stock cat their will be no smoke.
I also called Turbo international and they told me the same about a bad turbo seal. I also called Turbo power and guess what, Bad turbo seal.

It is happening to people with stock exhausts too. As I stated, it is an intermittent issue, but they have a test they can run without having the test pipe on! You won't need to physically see it if they can test for it. Shoot voicekoil a PM and see if he has more details on what the diagnostic was called...

I'd try reaching out to your salesperson before going to another dealer (or as AutoXRacer said Manager, GM, etc.), but that is always an option too. This is exactly how I would have handled it...


So long as you have the stock exhaust on, it should go something like:

niz55: "Every so often, I get a huge cloud of blue smoke on idle; it doesn't seem normal and I'm worried that there is something wrong with my new car."

Dealer: "If we can't replicate it, then we can't fix it...blah, blah, blah"

niz55: "I understand that, but I have heard that there have been issues with turbo seals failing and there is a diagnostic that you can run to check for issues."
Dealer: "I've never heard of that, you must have read that on an internet forum... blah, blah..."

niz55: "I learned it because a friend had a similar issue and another dealer was able to help him. Maybe I should just go there, as they are probably more equiped to work on the mazdaspeed vehicles..."

Dealer: "Let me ask one of the service guys and see what they can do..."

Your just asking them to take a look at the car. They might charge you a fee if they don't find anything, but if you were getting blue smoke, it is unlikely that there are no issues.

If you haven't sent in your dealer survey from the original purchase, I would play that card with the salesman, as that directly impacts their bonuses...

[Powerslave]

yeah but since you have the test pipe yours should be louder than mine, a friend of mine has my set up with the test pipe and it is ALOT louder than mine it sets off car alarms.

[Gasological]

Also, I don't know if it's been mentioned, but all that blue smoke? It's stopping somewhere. Probably in your cat. Have fun with oil clogged cats and the associated performance losses. That's if your turbo doesn't go first.

GET YOUR SHIT CHECKED. Not seeing the problem != not having a problem. Super is really trying to do you guys a favor.

[AutoXRacer]

yeah but since you have the test pipe yours should be louder than mine, a friend of mine has my set up with the test pipe and it is ALOT louder than mine it sets off car alarms.

Can we say R-I-C-E...? (lol2) (ricer)



Also, I don't know if it's been mentioned, but all that blue smoke? It's stopping somewhere. Probably in your cat. Have fun with oil clogged cats and the associated performance losses. That's if your turbo doesn't go first.

GET YOUR SHIT CHECKED. Not seeing the problem != not having a problem. Super is really trying to do you guys a favor.

+1

$400 O2 sensor will fail, then cat #1 will clog/fail, and finally cat #2 will be damaged... All charged to Mazda if the dealership does not (get their act together) fix the car ASAP...

[Powerslave]

Can we say R-I-C-E...? (lol2) (ricer)




+1

$400 O2 sensor will fail, then cat #1 will clog/fail, and finally cat #2 will be damaged... All charged to Mazda if the dealership does not (get their act together) fix the car ASAP...

uhhh i think not, check out this dude on you tube with the same setup sounds bdaasss!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uocqTSIgGI

[peterdaniel]

ok now your just being a drama queen. Comparing someone who altered their exhaust to a common criminal, and "your" e.r? Ha unless your a physician then its not "your" e.r and I really doubt a doctor would misspell vicious (unless you were speaking of their gelatinous properties?) No, your arrogant attitude sounds more like a cocky tech or bitchy r.n. so go back to filling paper work and connecting ekg's that you struggle to read and stop making someone who did absolutely nothing wrong and is complaining of an underlying issue which was uncovered by a modification that is hardly to blame for any malfunction feel like they are at fault . oh and before you call the gains this gives "minimal" maybe you should at least check into your statements and you would see that they average 30-50 hp gains with exhaust, not so minimal.

now had this been about street racing or b.s like that then your hissy fit may have been merited, but in this case your simply being annoying. So please, with all due respect (which i will give you a tad of for being in the same field as I) if you cant give helpful input then keep your ridiculous notions to your self.

as for the smoke. it does come from a oil seal leak, it is hidden by the cats, it will eventually get worse (could be a long time though) and the end result wont be good. my suggestion is to find a dealer who is more understanding, or speak directly to a tech who should know something about this. there is no reason for them not to cover this because the problem exist with or without the test pipe. you just need to find someone who can pull their head out their ass long enough to hear you out.

Nope, no queen here, and no Im not a Doctor, but I am an RN and have been for 8 years. And you obviously don't know that its the nurses that run the ER, not the docs...

I see that you stopped reading at the part that you wanted to. I said that " of course thats not you" I was simply using an analogy of someone who fucks something up themselves and then expects the company to pay for it.

AND wasn't this the same guy that let his friend redline the snot out of the car and THEN noticed the blue smoke?? Then he tells the dealer that he put a test pipe in the car, cutting out the catalytic converter????? omfg talk about diarrhea of the mouth!! Theres not a Dealer alive that will touch that car and don't think he isn't on the phone notifying other dealers. Its a small world.

The truth is, you should never never ever modify a car that you can't put back to stock and not be noticed while you are still under the warranty. Period.

Oh and lemme know where you are so if I see you in ER complaining of some sort of pain, Ill make sure to remind you that I can't do anything about it since Im too busy filling out paperwork..(shrug)

[niz55]

Thanks for the help guys. But i think i'm just going to crash the car in to mazda's service dep. Just j/k.. I wont stop till i get it fixed.

[SharkDiver]

Also, I don't know if it's been mentioned, but all that blue smoke? It's stopping somewhere. Probably in your cat. Have fun with oil clogged cats and the associated performance losses. That's if your turbo doesn't go first.



+1

[jam_asian85]

Thanks for the help guys. But i think i'm just going to crash the car in to mazda's service dep. Just j/k.. I wont stop till i get it fixed.

good luck with the fix !!! i'm trying to resolve mine, but i have this constant check engine light, on and off weird. ordered a new turbo and hopefully when that comes in, i'll take apart the downpipe and testpipe to match everything up again.

[HIGHBRED8]

seriously peterdaniel, What im trying to tell you is that. his mods did not cause this. As you can read for your self, many others have this issue and its a known problem. If you dont want to do anything to your car thats your deal, but dont come out bashing somebody else because they did and uncovered an issue. If your happy knowing your car might be affected but would rather ignore it because you cant see it, thats fine.

and i do know E.R's very well, and yes R.N's do do most of the work but just as i answer to a medical director, you answer to a doctor. Any DR would be pretty pist if a nurse told them that this was their E.R. thats what my comment was for. If you truly dislike people modding cars and discussing problems they might encounter then your in the wrong forum.

And to the ones with this issue, i for one am glad this was uncovered and hope your able to get it taken care of under warranty because its a faulty part and no amount of removed mufflers and resonators should affect that.

sorry ill get back to topic now

[Falconx84]

peterdaniel - (gtfo) stop being an ass

everyone else - what was this about a test to check out the turbo? anyone have specifics?

[SuperStretch18]

peterdaniel - (gtfo) stop being an ass

everyone else - what was this about a test to check out the turbo? anyone have specifics?

This is what I was referring to:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3616142&postcount=174

Didn't work out for voiceKoil, but his situation is "special"...

[Falconx84]

ah, I see.... I'm hoping there it something out there for it. I think I'm going to let my car idle for 5-10 min to see if theres anything, esp since its warmer now

I was just thinking if mazda had a test developed for it then in a sense they would be admitting that there was a widespread issue with the turbos

[niz55]

ah, I see.... I'm hoping there it something out there for it. I think I'm going to let my car idle for 5-10 min to see if theres anything, esp since its warmer now

I was just thinking if mazda had a test developed for it then in a sense they would be admitting that there was a widespread issue with the turbos

in order to see the smoke u need a test pipe. After you have to drive the car under boost for a little and let idle about 3-4 min. Than give it a little gas and you will find out if u have bad seal or not.