High End Entry Level Performance Sedans and Coupes (under 550hp)

[jred321]

i'd take any of these.


i have to say though that M interior shot is disappointing

[mikeyb]

Entry Level Performance Sedans and Coupes.

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2008 Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 457(336) / 6800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 443(600) / 5000
Weight lb (kg): 3813 (1730)
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: 4.3
Top Speed mph (km/h): 155 (250) - electronically limited

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2007 Audi RS 4
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 420(323) / 7800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 317(430) / 5500
Weight lb (kg): 3637 (1650)
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 4.8
Top Speed mph (km/h): 152 (250)

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2009 Cadillac CTS-V
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: > 550(410) / 6200
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: > 550(745) / 6200
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: N.A.

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2009 BMW M3 Coupe
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: > 414(308) / 8300
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: > 295(400) / 3900
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: < 4.6

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2009 BMW M3 Sedan
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: > 414(308) / 8300
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: > 295(400) / 3900
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: < N.A.

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2007 Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: > 475(354) / 6800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: > 465(630) / 5200
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: < N.A.

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2008 Nissan GT-R
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: > 473(353) / 6400
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: > 434(588) / 3200-5200
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: < 3.3 sec
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: < 4.9



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2008 Lexus IS-F
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: > 400(298) / n.a.
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: > 350(475) / n.a.
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: < 4.9

[TinmanMS6]

I don't think there's anything "entry level" about this list of cars.

[TinmanMS6]

I'm voting for the CTS-V, but, more than anything, I think it's just because I am really hoping it's as good as it looks on paper.

[mikeyb]

I don't think there's anything "entry level" about this list of cars.

I was actually not sure what to class these as. I did not want to include the likes of the BMW M5, M6, Audi S6/RS6, E63 AMG, CL63/65, and others.

[mikeyb]

This was actually a hard choice being both fanboy of BMW and Nissan. I went with the Nissan R35 GT-R.

[31R]

(confused) Ahhh...i cant make up my mind!

[clicknext]

There's something about the R35 that piques my computer geek curiosity like no other car does, so I went with that.

[boostdog]

I went with the benz! i love all things AMG! ....wonder why the tq is so low on the M models though...I would think they would have alot more than rated.

[ForceFed]

CLK for me.Followed closely by the IS-F.

I looked at the car as a whole..not just power...But looks,power, and potential for everyday driving fun.
Thats how I made my decision.

[ForceFed]

I thik having the GTR in there completely Makes a Bias pole..as there are a lot of people who drool on that car without ever giving the others a chance.....

I thinkthe GTR should be in a class of its own.

[SuperStretch18]

Went GT-R too, but if the poll included the RS4 Avant, I would have gone with that in a heartbeat. I love that f'n car...

[Witchdoktor]

GTR is pure sex (minus the wing)

[jred321]

I thik having the GTR in there completely Makes a Bias pole..as there are a lot of people who drool on that car without ever giving the others a chance.....

I thinkthe GTR should be in a class of its own.
i'd say the GTR fits in with a corvette z06/zr1, viper, in that class. all of the other cars in the list are luxury performance cars instead of strictly performance cars. if you're shopping for a CTS-V or C63 you're probably not going to cross shop the GTR. the M3 coupe is the only one that might be cross shopped

and the GTR does have its fanboys, though they aren't totally unwarranted

[mikeyb]

I thik having the GTR in there completely Makes a Bias pole..as there are a lot of people who drool on that car without ever giving the others a chance.....

I thinkthe GTR should be in a class of its own.



Went GT-R too, but if the poll included the RS4 Avant, I would have gone with that in a heartbeat. I love that f'n car...


i'd say the GTR fits in with a corvette z06/zr1, viper, in that class. all of the other cars in the list are luxury performance cars instead of strictly performance cars. if you're shopping for a CTS-V or C63 you're probably not going to cross shop the GTR. the M3 coupe is the only one that might be cross shopped.

and the GTR does have its fanboys, though they aren't totally unwarranted

The GTR is in this poll because its in the same price bracket as the others. Yes it has better performance and handling. The GTR is just as easy to drive as the rest of these luxury performance cars maybe even easier. From what I've been told the GTR has already been cross shopped with the a few of these cars. My Nissan dealer has told me that they've had BMW M3 and RS4 owners in acquiring about the GTR.

The RS4 Avant was not included in this poll because its a sportswagon.

[sanblaster]

I voted for the nissan. i hate the mid support for the wing.

[Rogue]

i voted for the RS4. AWD FTW.

on a side note... crap, i just saw the CTS is the new one. Can I change my vote?

[ForceFed]

GTR=Fanboys
That is All.

[Rogue]

i never understood the facination with GTRs other than we didn't have them here. I didn't want to like the GTR for that reason, but the more i read about it, the more I liked it for being an awesome work of mechanics, electronics, and magic. It has my respect. ~thumps chest with fist~

[FreewheelBurner]

GTR is by no means "entry level"

Now if you had a poll for entry level supercars...

[Flash5]

I love the new cts, but the GTR is ish.

[icespeed]

I find myself completely torn about all of them. There is no "one" car from this list that I like. There are tons of small things that I would combine to make a car from them.....

I would take the body of the GTR, the interior of the Caddy, the CF accents in the engine bay of the Audi, the rims from the M3 sedan and the tail lights of the M3 Coupe. I would probably keep the engine of the GTR in there as well. That would be a sick car. (sick in a good way, not like ebola virus sick, although, come to think of it, if I ever did own/drive a combo car like that, I'd probably be bleeding from every opening because of how high my blood pressure would rise in pure excitement and ecstasy)

[mikeyb]

I find myself completely torn about all of them. There is no "one" car from this list that I like. There are tons of small things that I would combine to make a car from them.....

I would take the body of the GTR, the interior of the Caddy, the CF accents in the engine bay of the Audi, the rims from the M3 sedan and the tail lights of the M3 Coupe. I would probably keep the engine of the GTR in there as well. That would be a sick car. (sick in a good way, not like ebola virus sick, although, come to think of it, if I ever did own/drive a combo car like that, I'd probably be bleeding from every opening because of how high my blood pressure would rise in pure excitement and ecstasy)

Sean, That sounds really hot to me.

[Rogue]

i love how the C63, RS4, and GTR have exposed engine bays. They're not hiding under boring plastic covers.

[Rotary_Powered]

WTH? No Cayman? No 911 Carrera S?

[Rotary_Powered]

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[ebmp5]

love the skyline but, u could fit more people in the cadi!.

[FreewheelBurner]

i love how the C63, RS4, and GTR have exposed engine bays. They're not hiding under boring plastic covers.

Of the list only the IS-F and CTS-V actually has engine covers. The M3 has a large intake manifold over the individual throttle bodies, but the heads aren't covered by any type of cover.

[mikeyb]

love the skyline but, u could fit more people in the cadi!.

The M3 coupe only sits 4.

[mikeyb]

WTH? No Cayman? No 911 Carrera S?

How many people does the Cayman sit? And the 911 Carrera S is over $80K base price. I should have included it just for you.

[mikeyb]

GTR is by no means "entry level"

Now if you had a poll for entry level supercars...

I know none of these are entry level. I just don't know what call them. I was having a brain fart. I included the GTR because its in the same price bracket and has similar performance numbers.

Should I redo this poll?

[mikeyb]

I could have included this car in this poll

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2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black Series
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="TechnicalA" width="52%">Type:</td> <td class="TechnicalA" width="48%">V8</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TechnicalB" width="52%">Displacement cu in (cc):</td> <td class="TechnicalB" width="48%">383 (6208)</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TechnicalA" width="52%">Power bhp (kW) at RPM:</td> <td class="TechnicalA" width="48%">500(373) / 6800</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TechnicalB" width="52%">Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:</td> <td class="TechnicalB" width="48%">470(630) / 5250</td></tr></tbody></table>Acceleration 0-60 mph s: 4.1

But it cost $135,000......

[Pirana]

all that plastic in the cadillac has to suck in about a year of usage...rattle heaven!

[Rotary_Powered]

How many people does the Cayman sit? And the 911 Carrera S is over $80K base price. I should have included it just for you.

The GTR is over 70K AND you the dealers are going to want your first born...

[CantCMe]

Gimme the Caddie...got kids.

[coolmazda5]

Not too fond of coupes, and split between the BMW and the Audi. New Caddy CTS-V jumps to number 3

...manual tranny still present in few, let's see how long it lasts :(

[mikeyb]

The GTR is over 70K AND you the dealers are going to want your first born...

I was going by base price w/o dealer markup.

08 BMW M3 Sedan $56,675
08 BMW M3 Coupe $59,375
08 Lexus IS-F $58,865
08 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG $63,000
08 Audi RS4 $69,785
09 Cadillac CTS-V n.a.
09 Nissan R35 GT-R $69,850

[TinmanMS6]

The GTR is over 70K AND you the dealers are going to want your first born...

What a coincidence! I just happen to have stumbled upon a first born!
:p

[coolmazda5]

What a coincidence! I just happen to have stumbled upon a first born!
:p

(boom08). Congrats Tinman, Just remember how many hours you used to sleep before, they won't come back anytime soon :D. But back on topic, what is the Kelly Blue Book trade-in value for a pre-owned toddler? I can throw in a couple of car seats as well ;)

[Rotary_Powered]

I was going by base price w/o dealer markup.

08 BMW M3 Sedan $56,675
08 BMW M3 Coupe $59,375
08 Lexus IS-F $58,865
08 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG $63,000
08 Audi RS4 $69,785
09 Cadillac CTS-V n.a.
09 Nissan R35 GT-R $69,850
Base 911 $ 73,500.00
911 S $83,800.00

The base is only a little more than the GTR (wink)

[spike blue]

voted for the nissan i love the others but the skyline is awesome