Acura TSX gets diesel power next year

[mikeyb]

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We've already been introduced to Honda's new i-DTEC clean diesel and, as expected, it will be finding its way into the next generation TSX sometime in 2009. The inclusion of the 2.2-liter diesel will follow the redesign of Acura's entry-level sedan sometime this spring, with the i-DTEC-equipped model initially debuting in Europe (in the Euro Accord) and eventually finding its way into the RDX crossover later next year. A V6 diesel is also expected to arrive sometime in 2010.

According to Dick Colliver, Acura's executive veep of American Honda Motor Corp., Acura will be a totally different brand in the next five or six years, further differentiating itself from Honda and becoming a tier one luxury brand with its aim set squarely on BMW and other luxury automakers.

A new TL will debut later this year and the TSX replacement may also come equipped with the turbocharged four found in the RDX when it goes on sale this summer.

[boostdog]

tsx turbo would be sweet! why not put it in the civic and let us all have the best of both worlds...honda quality and finally some torque!

[TinmanMS6]

Well, if they ever get around to putting the diesel in the Civic, you won't be asking for more torque. They seem pretty committed to the Civic Hybrid, though--Honda has stated that they like hybrids for smaller cars and diesel for larger ones--so it's not likely to happen.

[mikeyb]

Honda has diesels in all their models in Europe which are sold right alway side their hybrids.

[1sty]

Turbo diesel?

[redrocketz]

tsx turbo would be sweet! why not put it in the civic and let us all have the best of both worlds...honda quality and finally some torque!

What do you think the TSX is? Honda Quality and luxury.

I knew about the Diesel and Turbo models over a year ago back when I was a Tech for Acura. Nothing really new to me. You will be seeing V8's from them in the following year or two aswell.

[TinmanMS6]

Turbo diesel?

There's not really any other kind these days.

[boostdog]

What do you think the TSX is? Honda Quality and luxury.

I knew about the Diesel and Turbo models over a year ago back when I was a Tech for Acura. Nothing really new to me. You will be seeing V8's from them in the following year or two aswell.


well i realize that but i would rather have it in a coupe like the civic..lighter is faster..man a turbo diesel civic would be cool!(silly)

[mikeyb]

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Turbocharged i-DTEC Engine Displayed at the North American International Auto Show

Acura will introduce the new i-DTEC clean diesel engine to the North American market in 2009. The i-DTEC engine reduces noxious exhaust emissions while boosting power and fuel efficiency. A combination of optimized combustion chamber design and reduced injection time results in a clean, quiet engine that delivers excellent performance for an enjoyable driving experience. In addition, the i-DTEC engine meets the ultra-stringent U.S. EPA Tier II Bin 5 emission standards without the on-board storage of urea.

[mikeyb]

You all know that the euro Accord has a diesel option.

[redrocketz]

well i realize that but i would rather have it in a coupe like the civic..lighter is faster..man a turbo diesel civic would be cool!(silly)

there will be a coupe version with the turbo. possibly even SH-AWD at a later date. these are all things I heard face to face from a Honda/Acura rep a few times.

[seanmcsean]

I'd rock one.. I like the tsx.. Good gas mileage would just be a cherry on top.

[mikeyb]

What do you think the TSX is? Honda Quality and luxury.

I knew about the Diesel and Turbo models over a year ago back when I was a Tech for Acura. Nothing really new to me. You will be seeing V8's from them in the following year or two aswell.

So if they have a V8 coming it will be going in the RL/Legend? There is a Mugen Legend that has a V8.

[Rogue]

Acura will introduce the new i-DTEC clean diesel engine to the North American market in 2009. The i-DTEC engine reduces noxious exhaust emissions while boosting power and fuel efficiency. A combination of optimized combustion chamber design and reduced injection time results in a clean, quiet engine that delivers excellent performance for an enjoyable driving experience. In addition, the i-DTEC engine meets the ultra-stringent U.S. EPA Tier II Bin 5 emission standards without the on-board storage of urea.i remember hearing/reading something about this. They actually run it super rich for a cycle to flush the cat instead of spraying it with urea.

[redrocketz]

yes the Legend/RL will be getting it along with the Ridgeline and possibly the MDX...

And yes that Mugen one is pretty sick but I wouldn't expect 600hp from the factory one.

[mikeyb]

yes the Legend/RL will be getting it along with the Ridgeline and possibly the MDX...

And yes that Mugen one is pretty sick but I wouldn't expect 600hp from the factory one.

I'm actually surprised Honda is considering doing a V8 with the new CAFE standards.

[TinmanMS6]

I'm actually surprised Honda is considering doing a V8 with the new CAFE standards.

I'm not surprised by the RL, but I'd be pretty shocked if they put a V8 in the Ridgeline or Pilot/MDX.

[redrocketz]

I'm actually surprised Honda is considering doing a V8 with the new CAFE standards.

Cylinder deactivation baby. hopefully it will help but considering they already only get 20mpg it will be tough. I just say all the companies are going to give the US government the big middle finger like Porsche and Ferrari do every year and just pay the fine without flinching.

[Rogue]

i was wondering how they got around the mileage requirements

[mikeyb]

I'm not surprised by the RL, but I'd be pretty shocked if they put a V8 in the Ridgeline or Pilot/MDX.

Well I'm not shocked about the RL getting a V8. It needs one to compete with the BMW 550i, E 500, GS 460, and M45.

I do not know why Honda would want to put a V8 in the Ridgeline or Pilot/MDX.

[TinmanMS6]

Cylinder deactivation baby. hopefully it will help but considering they already only get 20mpg it will be tough. I just say all the companies are going to give the US government the big middle finger like Porsche and Ferrari do every year and just pay the fine without flinching.

Porsche and Ferrari don't have to worry CAFE, because they don't have enough production volume to be included. BMW and M-B do pay the fine every year, though.

[mikeyb]

Porsche and Ferrari don't have to worry CAFE, because they don't have enough production volume to be included. BMW and M-B do pay the fine every year, though.

I do not if BMW has to pay that fine every year now.

[TinmanMS6]

I do not if BMW has to pay that fine every year now.

I think I just read an article a couple weeks back about one of them paying a record fine. I'm pretty sure it was BMW, but I could be wrong. I'll try to find it.

[TinmanMS6]

Found it. I was wrong...as usual. Looks like BMW is still paying, though.


When Corporate Average Fuel Economy regulations were instituted by the US Congress in the mid-seventies, the law included fines for automakers who failed to meet the standard. The first company to fall prey to CAFE fines was Jaguar in 1983 when they paid $57,970 to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). NHTSA is the agency that actually sets the rules for CAFE, calculates the averages and administers the fines.

Over the years, carmakers have been fined a total of $735,422,635.50 for selling cars and trucks that use too much fuel. NHTSA has just released the latest list of fines including those for the 2006 model year. DaimlerChrysler got a record fine of $30,257,920 for that model year almost double the $16,895,472 they paid the previous year. The previous record went to BMW in 2001 when they paid almost $28 million. As the new standards increase over the next decade, companies that produce a lot of high performance cars like Mercedes and BMW will likely be paying a lot more in fines unless they start selling a lot of hybrids and diesels.

[redrocketz]

Porsche and Ferrari don't have to worry CAFE, because they don't have enough production volume to be included. BMW and M-B do pay the fine every year, though.

I know Porsche does now ever since they brought the Cayenne out.

And for the MDX it would be an option. we lost alot of sales to people because they thought it was important to have even if the V6 already made 300hp. I doubt it would be in the Pilot though. The pilot uses the old MDX chassis from the first gen before the face lift even.

[TinmanMS6]

I know Porsche does now ever since they brought the Cayenne out.

And for the MDX it would be an option. we lost alot of sales to people because they thought it was important to have even if the V6 already made 300hp. I doubt it would be in the Pilot though. The pilot uses the old MDX chassis from the first gen before the face lift even.

There's a new Pilot coming out for '09. It was just shown in Detroit. It will use the new MDX chassis.

[dmitrik4]

CAFE is a weighted average, so even if Honda puts out a 20mpg V8 RL, they can offset that by selling more 40+ mpg Civics and Fits.

i'd be surprised if Honda can't make a pretty fuel-efficient V8, though.

[TinmanMS6]

CAFE is a weighted average, so even if Honda puts out a 20mpg V8 RL, they can offset that by selling more 40+ mpg Civics and Fits.

i'd be surprised if Honda can't make a pretty fuel-efficient V8, though.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was only marginally worse than the V6. They've already got cylinder deactivation on the V6, so you know that engine will have it too.

[dmitrik4]

agreed. if Chevy can put out a Corvette w/ decent mileage, i'd bet Honda can whip up a pretty efficient V8 as well.