View Full Version : Wtf...cai?
Texaco
12-01-2007, 03:20 AM
Ok....maybe too much jack and coke tonight, but I think I just realized that my MS3 came with a Mazda CAI alreay installed. Bought it new (with a 100 miles on it) from the dealer about six months ago.
So I am reading the air box mod thread and notice that I don't have a fricking air box next to the TMIC. I have a nice chrome tube that runs down into the left wheel area. Looks just like a MS3 CAI...wtf??
numbnuts22715
12-01-2007, 03:22 AM
loll looks liek you got lucky. maybe they jus thad a special dealer added item.
Hirudin
12-01-2007, 03:34 AM
HAHAH!!! Awesome!
Texaco
12-01-2007, 03:57 AM
Someone posted an 08 engine compartment pic and I noticed the box next to the tmic. Ok I thought, maybe some change for 08; I don't have one those.
I had obviously read about the Mazda CAI but never really looked for a pic of it. It was actually going to be my first mod.
Spent some time in engine compartment in the past and wondered why they would bury the air filter down by wheel well.
I know this sounds dumb....but think about buying a brand new car...would you expect any mods to it??? Holy hell if I would have pulled the trigger on the CAI only to realize I already had it. Think about it...I had no reference!
So why would my dealer put a CAI on the car? Damn I worry about those first 100 miles.....
AutoXRacer
12-01-2007, 08:37 AM
Lucky!!! :)
Vindikacione
12-01-2007, 09:03 AM
Maybe installed at the port as part of someone else's custom order. Perhaps it was then shipped to your dealership by mistake and the guy who ordered it is yelling at the dealership for not having his custom part installed when he picked it up... poor guy- Reminds me of a Pearls Before Swine cartoon. I see Rat and Pig and Andy the Dog going at it. Awesome. (mj)
Texaco
12-01-2007, 02:11 PM
I checked all the paper work, sticker, etc...no mention of it. Lots of possibilities but I am not complaining!
So what is the best way to access the CAI air filter?
desperado-c
12-01-2007, 02:32 PM
I checked all the paper work, sticker, etc...no mention of it. Lots of possibilities but I am not complaining!
So what is the best way to access the CAI air filter?
By pulling off the front part of the plastic wheel well liner. But you shouldn't have to worry about that for 20K or so unless you're driving in really dusty conditions.
If I were you, I'd want the dealership to acknowledge on your sales slip that the car was delivered to you with a CAI. It means the difference between Blue Warranty and Green Warranty. Blue means it's officially covered under the full warranty as opposed to just a replacement warranty.
clos561
12-09-2007, 10:05 AM
nice, but its kinda sucky, you cant enjoy the change in the car and the fact that the intake was installed
Bravnik
12-09-2007, 02:20 PM
You might want to check for the other Mazdaspeed mods. They may have modded out that car and you got the deal of a century.
Look for Red colored springs, check to see if the tailpipe on your exhaust says MazdaSpeed on the end cap. Check for any other RED colored suspension parts.
Report back to us with your FINDINGS!
EVLTSTR
12-10-2007, 09:34 AM
You might want to check for the other Mazdaspeed mods. They may have modded out that car and you got the deal of a century.
Look for Red colored springs, check to see if the tailpipe on your exhaust says MazdaSpeed on the end cap. Check for any other RED colored suspension parts.
Report back to us with your FINDINGS!
Yes.... Let us know.
Andrewsmc
12-10-2007, 10:33 AM
sweet man!
Andrewsmc
12-10-2007, 10:33 AM
subed.
jred321
12-10-2007, 10:39 AM
that actually sucks if you ever want to trade it in because you don't have your stock parts. if they did it and included the stock intake then great but they obviously didn't so you can never be stock
Andrewsmc
12-10-2007, 10:51 AM
buy one... cheaper than cai.
Andrewsmc
12-10-2007, 10:52 AM
and is MS parts. I wouldnt worry
Sacrilicious
12-10-2007, 10:55 AM
lol! good deal, man! :D the thing that really drew me toward the MS CAI was that it doesn't give you trouble for warranty work. they absolutely will NOT bitch at you for having an intake mod, since it's their own product, and they vouch that it will not cause harm to the engine accordingly...;)
It means the difference between Blue Warranty and Green Warranty. Blue means it's officially covered under the full warranty as opposed to just a replacement warranty.
This is incorrect. Individual parts come with the different warranties. CAI, CBE, Springs are all Green which means 12 months/12000 miles no matter who installs them. Mazda techs just see them as stock items. Blue warranty items are only included in the life warranty of the vehicle if installed by dealer.
Sierra117
12-10-2007, 11:26 AM
that actually sucks if you ever want to trade it in because you don't have your stock parts. if they did it and included the stock intake then great but they obviously didn't so you can never be stock
Thats why he really needs to get to the dealer and get an invoice saying it was installed before he purchased it and he didn't specifically ask for it. That way at trade in/sell time, he can show it was a dealership thing, not his call.
Andrewsmc
12-10-2007, 11:28 AM
lmao for the sig
jred321
12-10-2007, 11:28 AM
Thats why he really needs to get to the dealer and get an invoice saying it was installed before he purchased it and he didn't specifically ask for it. That way at trade in/sell time, he can show it was a dealership thing, not his call.
why will it matter whose call it was from the POV of the buyer of the vehicle? in their mind it'll be a modified vehicle
Sierra117
12-10-2007, 11:37 AM
If a private buyer, I doub't it would at all. But if trading in or giving to a dealership, it would make a good case that he didn't specifically modify the vehicle, it came that way. Of course, he could always do what I plan on doing when I sell the car and just return it all back to stock.
jred321
12-10-2007, 11:41 AM
Of course, he could always do what I plan on doing when I sell the car and just return it all back to stock.
that's what i plan to do as well and why i'd be mad if i were him. he can't return it back to stock. he doesn't have his stock parts. he'll have to spend money to be stock which sucks
of course if he plans on keeping the car until it dies then it's not a big deal but most people who buy these cars won't
Andrewsmc
12-10-2007, 11:43 AM
ahhh its a factory part... Some one would have to be a real tightass to complain about a CAI. and one who would be complaining probably wouldnt be buying a ms3.
jred321
12-10-2007, 11:56 AM
i wouldn't buy an MS3 with an intake unless i absolutely couldn't find another one (which won't happen). i don't trust other people to modify my cars, even if it is only an intake. and a modified car makes me wonder how the previous owner drove it since nobody modifies a car to make extra power below 2500rpm. it's enough that i'd pass it up in favor of a stock MS3
clos561
12-10-2007, 12:05 PM
i wouldn't buy an MS3 with an intake unless i absolutely couldn't find another one (which won't happen). i don't trust other people to modify my cars, even if it is only an intake. and a modified car makes me wonder how the previous owner drove it since nobody modifies a car to make extra power below 2500rpm. it's enough that i'd pass it up in favor of a stock MS3
good point, but with a brand new car it wouldnt bother me because of warranty but every time i see a car for sale and its modded i just assume that it was beat on horribly regradless of what the owner says
2ManyCars
12-10-2007, 12:53 PM
I'd be concerned if it were a non-MS part. Because it is, my hunch is that the dealer will be unconcerned and a private party would actually be happy with it. If not, find someone who is. Dont waste money returning it to stock unless it fails emissions or you want the part for another MS. You wont make that money back in a trade or private sale.
Texaco
12-17-2007, 02:30 AM
Lol..thought the thread was dead. I think I should get some sort of story from the dealer for warranty issues.
Now it did have 185 miles on it when I bought it, but had been at the dealer for several months. Way to low miles to be "used" and doubtful that another buyer installed the CAI.
Just feel like a dumbass. I consider myself a "car guy", but failed to realize until months later that a CAI was installed. Just thought all that intake noise and turbo spooling was the stock sound. Stock must be real quiet.
My best theory is that the dealer got a sample CAI? And they decided to install it and check it out. Or someone ordered and backed out?
Anyway, I am happy with the surprise. I live at 8600 feet here in Colorado, so every bit of extra O2 is a good thing..
desperado-c
12-17-2007, 12:05 PM
This is incorrect. Individual parts come with the different warranties. CAI, CBE, Springs are all Green which means 12 months/12000 miles no matter who installs them. Mazda techs just see them as stock items. Blue warranty items are only included in the life warranty of the vehicle if installed by dealer.
Excuse me, but your statement is a little vague. What part are you disagreeing with? If it's about what the Blue and Green warranties cover, the bottom line is what is actually written in the warranty from Mazda NA, not how dealer techs view a part.
The CAI was installed before the OP took delivery from the dealer. Assuming he was the first owner of the car, this means it is covered by the Blue warranty. During the general warranty period the Blue warranty obligates Mazda to replace the part if it fails and to repair any damage it causes to the rest of the car.
If it had been installed after he took delivery, it would be covered by the Green warranty. On its face, the Green warranty obligates Mazda only to offer a replacement for the part if it fails within one year. Anything beyond that is done only voluntarily at Mazda NA's option for reasons other than its obligation under the warranty.
jred321
12-17-2007, 12:11 PM
The CAI was installed before the OP took delivery from the dealer.
how you gonna prove that in court?
Excuse me, but your statement is a little vague. What part are you disagreeing with? If it's about what the Blue and Green warranties cover, the bottom line is what is actually written in the warranty from Mazda NA, not how dealer techs view a part.
The CAI was installed before the OP took delivery from the dealer. Assuming he was the first owner of the car, this means it is covered by the Blue warranty. During the general warranty period the Blue warranty obligates Mazda to replace the part if it fails and to repair any damage it causes to the rest of the car.
If it had been installed after he took delivery, it would be covered by the Green warranty. On its face, the Green warranty obligates Mazda only to offer a replacement for the part if it fails within one year. Anything beyond that is done only voluntarily at Mazda NA's option for reasons other than its obligation under the warranty.
The colors Blue (General Warranty or 12/12000, whichever is longer, when installed by the dealer or it reverts to a Green), Green (12/12000 no matter who installs it) and Red (Off Road use only). You're a bit off. It also applies to tech aspects. If you're having a problem the techs can't tell you to take it off.
desperado-c
12-17-2007, 03:46 PM
how you gonna prove that in court?
You wouldn't want to have to, so it would definitely be best to have the dealer acknowledge it in writing. But, if you had to, you could certainly find out the information regarding the transfer and/or sale of the CAI based on its serial number.
desperado-c
12-17-2007, 03:50 PM
The colors Blue (General Warranty or 12/12000, whichever is longer, when installed by the dealer or it reverts to a Green), Green (12/12000 no matter who installs it) and Red (Off Road use only). You're a bit off. It also applies to tech aspects. If you're having a problem the techs can't tell you to take it off.
A bit off about what? Yeah, sure, general warranty or 12K, whichever is longer. If that's what you meant, you could have just said so. I take your point about the techs not being able to tell you to take it off if they installed it. That is definitely an advantage but not one I'd be willing to pay too much for.
You stated that the CAI was blue since the dealer installed it prior to his buying the vehicle, I stated that you were wrong. That's what you're a bit off about.
desperado-c
12-19-2007, 12:04 PM
You stated that the CAI was blue since the dealer installed it prior to his buying the vehicle, I stated that you were wrong. That's what you're a bit off about.
It's really not relevent anymore since they lowered the price of the MS-CAI/exhaust and changed them from Blue to Green warranty items. But in effect the Blue warranty is the after-delivery equivalent of the new vehicle warranty coverage you get with a before-delivery install. I can't find the text of Replacement Parts and Accessories warranty online anymore, but they typically cover parts and labor for any repairs during the warranted period.
The summary version of the Green warranty excludes labor and I can't find the detailed version, so it's hard to say what else is included/excluded. In any case, if you want be sure you have more than replacement coverage for your performance accessories, get them installed before you take delivery.
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