Snow Rims and Tires?

[MRTURBO]

I have a 2007 MS6 and I want a set of black steel rims and winter tires. I've heard that a 16" rim will not clear the brake calipers, can anyone confirm this?

If I go with a 17" black steel rim, what size of tire would you guys recommend?

Thanks Everyone, it's great to find this forum, I just joined today.

[MRTURBO]

Would a 215/65/17 tire on 17" steel rims fit alright?

[CalgaryMS6]

I will confirm that there is absolutely no way you will fit 16" steel rims over your front calipers. I just put 17 black steelies with winter tires on my car last week. The best match to stock size is 215/50/R17. Your speedo will read .6% too fast.

Tire Calculator (http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)

There are a couple pics on my car domain (found in my sig) if you wanna see how they look. I'm betting you have about 3/16" clearance between your caliper and rims. I don't have a close up photo, but trust me, it's tight man.

[koes]

I would go with 215/50/17 as it is the closest size to stock (0.6% difference). See tire calculator: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

[koes]

CalgaryMS6, you posted 1 minute before me :)
Where did you get steelies and for how much a piece?

[CalgaryMS6]

Haha, yeah, I was just about to say...

"jinx, you owe me a beer!"

My uncle runs a tire shop, so I got the set (tires on rims) for $620 taxes in. So probably not a great reference for you.

[MRTURBO]

Thanks a lot guys. Someone at a local tire place was trying to sell me 16" rims and tires and claimed they would fit no problem, I'm glad I checked first.

[MRTURBO]

I have access to a set of 225/55/17 on a set of black steel rims, would these fit ok?

[dutchbuffalo]

My mazda dealership told me I can fit 16's on my MS6 and they were going to sell me a set but the price wast too high for me. Why would they tell me this if it isn't true ?

[Rivman]

My mazda dealership told me I can fit 16's on my MS6 and they were going to sell me a set but the price wast too high for me. Why would they tell me this if it isn't true ?
Rule of thumb - rims can usually go one size smaller with no problem.
Replacement tires should be within 3% of the size of the tires they replace to ensure braking and handling characteristics are not comprimised.
Here's a good link for comparing tire sizes:
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp
Brake clearance problems can occur when you try going two sizes smaller !
ie: !5" rims on a car that has 17" rims, 16" rims on a car that has 18" rims.
Offset is another important factor to consider when comparing alloy wheels.
It can be most confussing ! (flash)

[dutchbuffalo]

So will 205/60R16's fit on my MS6 or not ? If not then I have to start searching for tires all over again.

[Scott P]

Several people have said "no", so I'm guess the answer is "no".

[Rivman]

Compare your MS6 stock tire size (P215/50R17 ?) with the P205/60R16, and as long as it's within 3% of the stock size (. . . which it is), you should be OK !
If you have P215/45R18 wheels, then that tire is still OK as a replacement, but the 16" rims will not clear the brake calipers. (dunno)

[dutchbuffalo]

It is within the 3% but now there's people saying that they wont clear the calipers so I dont know what to believe. I would like to think my dealer is right and that 16's will fit but I'm not to fond of my Mazda dealer and they seem somewhat incompetent (it took them 2 days to get back to me with pricing and options for winter tires) so now I'm just not sure.Is there anyone out there with 16" winter rims and tires on their MS6 ?

[Rivman]

What size are your stock wheels, 17" or 18" ?
I hate Mazda dealers too, and try to avoid them at all costs !
I put 16"s M5 rims on my M3 Sport GT (that came with 17"s), and did a lot of research on tires,
but I'm definetly not an expert ! (2thumbs)

[Dragon Queen]

This has been discussed so many times....16's on the MS6 will NOT fit. Do not use the MS3 as a guideline.

[MRTURBO]

So will 205/60R16's fit on my MS6 or not ? If not then I have to start searching for tires all over again.

Holy crap, I already asked this question in my original post and it's been answered like 3 or 4 times for you....you blind?

Now I have to ask my question again:

Does anyone know if 215/55/17's are ok to use on 17" steelies? These will be going on my 2007 MS6.

Thanks Guys

[dutchbuffalo]

Holy crap, I already asked this question in my original post and it's been answered like 3 or 4 times for you....you blind?

Now I have to ask my question again:

Does anyone know if 215/55/17's are ok to use on 17" steelies? These will be going on my 2007 MS6.

Thanks Guys

Thanks for the concern with my eyesight ***hole but when a message board says one thing and my Mazda dealer tells me another I do get a little confused with who to believe, so feel free to take a long walk off a short pier.

[MRTURBO]

Thanks for the concern with my eyesight ***hole but when a message board says one thing and my Mazda dealer tells me another I do get a little confused with who to believe, so feel free to take a long walk off a short pier.

Not referring to your eyesight, I'm referring to your stupidity LOL

[dutchbuffalo]

I'm stupid because my dealer told me I could put 16's on my ms6 and that I read differently on here and wanted 100% clarification on the subject before I went out and wasted my money on tires and rims I wouldn't be able to use ?
Interesting theory on stupidity.

[MRTURBO]

I'm stupid because my dealer told me I could put 16's on my ms6 and that I read differently on here and wanted 100% clarification on the subject before I went out and wasted my money on tires and rims I wouldn't be able to use ?
Interesting theory on stupidity.

There's nothing wrong with wanting clarification on a topic, but seriously, it was just answered. I'm now trying to ask about 215/55/17's and your sidetracking the thread by asking the same question.

[dutchbuffalo]

There's nothing wrong with wanting clarification on a topic, but seriously, it was just answered. I'm now trying to ask about 215/55/17's and your sidetracking the thread by asking the same question.

Sucks to be you then.

[MRTURBO]

Sucks to be you then.

Really, I learned more from this thread than you did apparently. Now run off and buy your 16's.

[MRTURBO]

I did a little more research and the 215/55/17 should have no problem fitting. There is a slight speedometer difference of less than 3 km/h when going to this size.

[berad]

TireRack is out of steelies!? wtf!?

[berad]

I just called, Collin said they never carried 17" steelies...how did you get the package then?

[berad]

Will these clear the brakes?
I know the factory offset is something like 55-60 b/c of the brakes.

Heres the specs on Enkei's site:
http://enkei.com/Performance%20specs/rsv.html



Looking to sell the wheels off my Cavalier. They are 17"x7 Enkei RSV bronze.

5x100 and 5x114.3 bolt pattern, 42mm offset. Fits Neon, Cavalier, Toyotas, a whole bunch of shit.

Wheels are in flawless condition, no curb rash, no dings, no scratches. Center caps are a little discolored from some wheel cleaner but did not damage the wheel. Also comes with the hub centric rings and lugs with the goofy socket.

Has Falken Ziex ZE512 215/45-17 tires with maybe 50-60% tread left.

Can get more pics upon request.

Package ran me $900 in April, looking for $600.

What they look like:

http://home.comcast.net/~dannythekid/matt2.jpg

Talk to me.

[Dragon Queen]

A 42 offset will Rub...

you will be required to roll the fenders in the rear to fit those.

A 48 - 55+ offset is safe

[berad]

A 42 offset will Rub...

you will be required to roll the fenders in the rear to fit those.

A 48 - 55+ offset is safe
Thanks! Crap, those are dirt cheap too. Oh well. Gues I'll have to pony up and find some Mazda or steelies somewhere out there. I refuse to pay $235 for snow tires lol

[MRTURBO]

Well, with all the snow we've been getting up here, tires have been selling out quickly. I couldn't find a 215/50/17 so I got some 215/45/17's. Now the only problem is finding some 17" rims to fit these.

[dutchbuffalo]

I just ordered a set of 17' Blizzaks on some cheap rims from Tirerack, I cant wait for them to get here.

[berad]

I just ordered a set of 17' Blizzaks on some cheap rims from Tirerack, I cant wait for them to get here.
How cheap?

[dutchbuffalo]

Blizzak's were 103 each and the rims were 93 each with free mounting and balancing, so not cheap but alot cheaper than what all the local shops around here are charging.

[3+5]

IMO, good move. Great tires. I have a friend in Minneapolis who swears by the Blizzak. Your winter rims are gonna take a beating. No sense putting a lot of cash into them.

[MRTURBO]

I just got my 17" steelies and Dunlop Graspic tires (215/45/17) installed on Friday and all I can say is WOW! The car is a beast in the snow. I can slam on the brakes in the snow, take a corner with speed and the thing just sticks to the road. I had these tires on one of my older cars and I loved them. This is the first awd car I have ever owned or driven and I'm hooked.

[berad]

Just got some Cooper ZPT's mounted and balanced for $115USD

Ran out of time shopping around. Got stuck in driveway Friday night. Bald OE P-Zero's FTL

[Rivman]

I just got my 17" steelies and Dunlop Graspic tires (215/45/17) installed on Friday and all I can say is WOW! The car is a beast in the snow. I can slam on the brakes in the snow, take a corner with speed and the thing just sticks to the road. I had these tires on one of my older cars and I loved them. This is the first awd car I have ever owned or driven and I'm hooked.
Glad to hear you got your winter tires sorted out - take care ! (drinks)

[MRTURBO]

Glad to hear you got your winter tires sorted out - take care ! (drinks)

Thanks Man, good to see another Ottawa member on here. I think I have seen a couple of others on here.

Take Care

[sonofabit]

I'm in Ottawa too, and I just got the MS6, so I don't think I can afford winters this year. I think the Dunlop all seasons will be good for this year until I get a winter set for next year.

[:: Gusto ::]

okay.. so 17" rim will fit on the speed6??

correct?

[mpk]

okay.. so 17" rim will fit on the speed6??

correct?

Provided they're the right offset and width, that's correct.

Looks like most MS6 owners go with a 17 x 7 inch rim that has an offset close to stock (48 mm), wrapped in 215/50 R17s.

[:: Gusto ::]

dammit i wish i had known that.. i would have kept my OEM 3 wheels.. they had 1 season old ICEBEAR's on them...
hrmm so could conceivably put a 40mm - 17x7 wheels on & use that jsut for the winter rollers...
& pic up some cheap snow tires...

[vas6s]

Blizzak's were 103 each and the rims were 93 each with free mounting and balancing, so not cheap but alot cheaper than what all the local shops around here are charging.

What kind of blizzak's did you get? I just put on the ws-60's and they're amazing.....I got a set of 16" steelies with 205/60/16's. can't believe how nice they drive in snow.

[:: Gusto ::]

question...??...

will these fit ...?
235/50R-18 Hankook W300 - snow tires... i found a used set for a good deal...

i have a spare set of 18" rims laying around....
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i dont want to jack your thread... i just need to know.. heh -- its supposed to snow again this week.. & i need some tires..... bad!