Hyundai Genesis RWD Sports Coupe News [Archive]

Chibana

07-17-2007, 02:04 PM

I agree... RWD is just better in every way. (even better than awd IMO) Unfortuneatly, when you live in CT, it's not really the best option. Personally, and this might strike a nerve with some reading this but, how anyone (who considers themself a car enthusiasts) living in a warm climate could buy a fwd car is beyond me. I mean, what's the point? Granted, there aren't nearly as many options out there and most of them are often too big and heavy for their own good (charger, mustang, etc.) But even still, there's the RX-8... easily my choice if I didn't have to deal with snow and even the roadsters (solstice & miata) though I'd think twice about getting one due to cargo issues, in reality, I can count on one hand how many times I've actually had more than 1 person in my car. I'm sure many of you are the same. In fact, to take it to an even further extreme, most of us could easily get by driving motorcycles 90% of the time. Look around the next time you're stuck in traffic. All these lumbering sedans and suvs... with one freakin driver!! But I digress....

Answer: practicality. I agree with you, but when I went looking for RWD cars to replace my 2001 Focus, I found none that fit the bill. They're all either too expensive, gas guzzlers (I drive 35,000 miles a year), or just too big and heavy. I was looking for a new, reasonably small, light, reasonably inexpensive, and fuel efficient RWD car sold in the U.S. that's fun to drive. I found none. I live in Michigan, but with modern stability control, etc., RWD cars aren't a big deal to drive in snow and ice with good snow tires.

Having said that, I now plan to buy a second "toy" car to be my performance/sports car, including occasional track duty, and that car will likely be the BMW 135i.

gone_fishin

07-17-2007, 02:45 PM

I like...

a lot

ho bag

07-17-2007, 03:57 PM

Ya it look alot bigger in the back half.

Honestly if they mad a rwd i4 car the same size as the old tib i would be all over it like white on rice.

There is not enuf small rwd forced induction cars in north america.

And since it would by hyundai it would have a decent warrenty and be cheaper then the bigger names.

Roywhitep5

07-18-2007, 12:47 AM

i dont know how anyone could mistake that engine bay shot for fwd, a v6 or v8. it could only be an i4 turbo rwd

NCZ13

07-18-2007, 02:54 AM

is definetily turbo

look at the placement of the airbox and where the tubing comes up out of. thats way to awkward of an angle to not be turbo.

CHICO2003

07-19-2007, 08:00 AM

Answer: practicality. I agree with you, but when I went looking for RWD cars to replace my 2001 Focus, I found none that fit the bill. They're all either too expensive, gas guzzlers (I drive 35,000 miles a year), or just too big and heavy. I was looking for a new, reasonably small, light, reasonably inexpensive, and fuel efficient RWD car sold in the U.S. that's fun to drive. I found none. I live in Michigan, but with modern stability control, etc., RWD cars aren't a big deal to drive in snow and ice with good snow tires.

Having said that, I now plan to buy a second "toy" car to be my performance/sports car, including occasional track duty, and that car will likely be the BMW 135i.

Hmm... not sure where the question was but ok. As far as your search was concerned.... I'm not sure what your idea of "inexpensive" is but the RX-8 and 350z immediately come to mind. After that, a used 3 series would be the way I'd go.

As far as RWD cars go (even with snow tires) overall... I think that's far too risky in the winter. I'm not sure how your winters are but, here in CT, they can get pretty ugly. I drive almost as much as you and, in fairfield county, the traffic situation just plain sucks. I have some friends (who are good drivers) that own rwd cars... they throw winter tires on each year and bitch and moan every year about how they feel like they're in a deathtrap during snowstorms. Which is why, as I said... for areas of the country like mine, awd/fwd... for the rest... rwd.

Newf

07-19-2007, 09:09 AM

RWD here in our winters = Death. i don't care what electronic gizmo's you got.

however, AWD in the speed = pure fun :)

Mrs. CaSHMeRe

07-19-2007, 12:06 PM

uuuuuuggggggglllllllllyyyyyyy

k-lea

07-19-2007, 12:08 PM

yumm..

Chibana

07-19-2007, 06:36 PM

RWD here in our winters = Death. i don't care what electronic gizmo's you got.

however, AWD in the speed = pure fun :)

Nonsense. Talk to anyone who's actually lived with RWD cars in winter. I did, although the car didn't have much power, but all the old schoolers I know say the same thing: just learn how to drive.

Rotary_Powered

07-19-2007, 07:05 PM

They should still keep the Tiburon line up as their affordable option for something sporty but seeing this is great!

FWD = good in snow
RWD+ the right tires= just as good.

The tires make all the difference.

altspace

07-19-2007, 07:26 PM

Yup.

Rotary_Powered

07-19-2007, 10:21 PM

But then on the same token:

FWD + Snow tires= Almost as good as AWD.

I've only driven FWD and RWD aggressively though. Both have pluses and minuses. They should keep a FWD Tiburon and introduce a more sport up scale coupe under a NEW name. But definitely have something to compete with the Civic Sis and such.

altspace

07-31-2007, 02:33 PM

Confirmed! Hyundai making Tiburon replacement RWD

We've had rumors and spy shots before, but up until now we really didn't have any confirmation that Hyundai's new Tiburon replacement would switch from a pull-me to a push-me. With the new rwd platform that the company recently developed for its Genesis luxury sedan, it was expected that the next generation of affordable sports car from Korea would ditch its fwd layout and get some true sports car manners. Well, Hyundai just confirmed that when that car shows up in late 2008 or early 2009, it will indeed be rear-wheel drive.

As predicted, the car will share its rwd platform with the already-announced Genesis sedan, which we should see in about a year. The Tiburon replacement should show up half a year to a year after the sedan, and might even come as a convertible. In fact, there is also a suggestion that we'll be seeing several models based on this platform. We're not sure if the coupe will share the sedan's new V8 in addition to the expected V6, but it would make an interesting competitor for the Mustang if it did. Hyundai has officially said no, but there are still whispers, and if not a V8, some kind of boosted V6 in the top models might suffice.

CHICO2003

07-31-2007, 05:05 PM

Nonsense. Talk to anyone who's actually lived with RWD cars in winter. I did, although the car didn't have much power, but all the old schoolers I know say the same thing: just learn how to drive.

With the exception of this insane ukranian friend of mine, nobody and I mean nobody I know has ever echoed this sentiment. My boss (who used to race psuedo-professionally at Statford Motor Speedway) has an STS and Jeep. Just bought the STS this time last year and, after driving it into work during a very mild snowstorm, bitched and moaned about how shitty the thing handled and how he nearly died. Before you ask... all-season tires.

This is the tip of the iceberg really. I've got a few friends who are hardcore mustang fanatics. They'd tell you they'd rather put on snow shoes and walk than drive their cars in snow. Since the only RWD vehicle I've ever owned was capable of 4WD (which I naturally used when necessary) I can't speak from experience on this. I can say it's funny how many people (online) seem to think rwd cars are ok in the snow. Many of these people, I'm willing to bet, don't even own a rwd car... or may never have owned one at all!

While I normally need to experience something myself in order to know if it's true, this is probably going to remain an exception. 99% of the people I've ever spoken with about this say it's nuts to drive a rwd car in snow. Most of them have had experiences to back up this viewpoint. Since I'm in no hurry to bid my adieu, that's good enough for me.

njaremka

07-31-2007, 06:08 PM

Foolish

07-31-2007, 06:37 PM

Seriously, when we still lived in VA, my Miata was immobilized by 1/8" of snow and a slight grade. That was with my Falken Azenis (High Performance Summer) tires on, though!

With the Michelin Arctic Alpin snow tires I usually ran in the winter, I had no trouble getting going, turning or stopping. I repeat: with snow tires, the Miata was great in the snow! The Miata is of course RWD, well balanced, and not terribly torquey, so with the manual trans and the snow tires, It was all smiles until the snow got deep enough for the car to start bottoming out, which I'll admit came sooner than with most cars.

On topic: I'd be psyched to see RWD Tiburons, but I do not want them to keep a FWD Tibby and add a higher-end RWD coupe. We have expensive RWD cars, we need more inexpensive ones.

CHICO2003

08-01-2007, 10:45 AM

you guys are being rediculous - what did the world do before there were front drive cars all over the place? die off every winter? no, they drove thier rwd cars in the snow.

my opinion: rwd drive is BETTER in the snow, with the proper tires and the proper mindset. you aren't going to be able to drive the same in the snow as you can in the dry.

Again, since I have no first-hand experience, I can only go by what countless people have told me. As far as your "what did the world do when all cars were rwd?" comment goes... I find this logic to be flawed. After all, there was a time when cars didn't have airbags... or seatbelts... or (fill in the blank). Did "the world" die? Of course not. Was the world a safer place once those things came out? Obviously. Combine that with the fact that people are driving more than ever before... are in more of a hurry than ever before (which means they're driving faster.) In the "old days" when pop went to work and ma stayed home with the kids... things were a lot slooooower and people were generally more cautious on the roads. Nowadays, everywhere you look there are cars speeding by. It's a completely different world. If the automakers (as a whole) didn't improve the safety of their vehicles the way they did... perhaps the world WOULD have died off.

Back on topic... I'm all for a rwd import sporty coupe. Thing I don't quite understand is... Those who are in the market for a mustang (assuming they're true enthusiasts) opt for the V-8 model. Buying the V6 means you're either a woman or have aspirations to be. Yet, with regards to the import competition (eclipse for example) the V6 is the top of the line while the 4 banger is their chick car. It's just funny to me... Everyone's gonna be all over getting this tiburon. These are the same people who make fun of the single tail piped mustangs on the road.

mikeyb

08-02-2007, 11:37 AM

http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070801.002/6070801.002.Mini1L.jpg

http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070801.002/6070801.002.Mini2L.jpg

http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070801.002/6070801.002.Mini3L.jpg

altspace

08-07-2007, 07:35 AM

http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070803.001/6070803.001.1L.jpg

njaremka

08-07-2007, 07:59 AM

either that guy is REALLY small, or that car is HUGE!!!

shamrock

08-08-2007, 02:53 PM

It is a RWD....it Might be the Tiburon but it might also be their new sports coupe the Genesis

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/10/spy-shots-hyundais-rwd-coupe/

I like the way that one looks, espically the front. But I would still like to see it with its cloths off

FreewheelBurner

08-08-2007, 04:21 PM

Now it just screams G37, leave it to Hyundai to take something that was somewhat original to yet another copy of a far superior premium car.

altspace

11-08-2007, 08:34 AM

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/11/8/9071108.002/9071108.002.Mini3L.jpg

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/11/8/9071108.002/9071108.002.Mini4L.jpg

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/11/8/9071108.002/9071108.002.Mini5L.jpg

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/11/8/9071108.002/9071108.002.Mini6L.jpg

WorldCarFans sister site CarSpyShots.net has smashed the automotive stratosphere today with these amazing shots of the all-new Hyundai rear-wheel-drive sports coupe. Snapped during a market research event, the Hyundai is standing next to its target competitor, the Ford Mustang. In an effort to minimize preconceived biases, both vehicles are painted exactly the same color as well as having all emblems covered. Additionally, participants are given a questionnaire about the two vehicles regarding their impressions in which they refer to the vehicles by a given letter. As seen in these photos, the Hyundai is wearing a sign on the front bumper with the letter F.

Although spy photos taken from research clinics are nothing new, these are the clearest photos we have seen from such an event. Normally, the specially selected participants of these market research events are obviously prohibited to have cameras. But judging by the vantage point of the photos it seems the spy photographer may have been an insider with access to the rest of the facility allowing a view from above the curtains.

The presence of the Mustang as the target competitor confirms the sports coupe will receive a V8 engine (the 4.6-liter from the Genesis) as previously reported. Codenamed BK, but often referred to as the Hyundai Mustang by Hyundai insiders, the sports coupe replaces the Tiburon but will most likely be given a new name since it has nothing in common with its predecessor as well as emphasizing a high performance rear-wheel-drive nature. The Hyundai sports coupe which is based on the BH/Genesis platform will first arrive in Asia in late 2008 or 2009, and arrive in the U.S. for the 2010 model year. A convertible version is expected to follow.

CitizenPro

11-08-2007, 08:39 AM

Looks ok i guess, wish there was better angles :)

altspace

11-08-2007, 08:43 AM

Sheesh....Did you read the post? We're lucky to get what we did.

CitizenPro

11-08-2007, 08:54 AM

Lol, yea i know.

seanmcsean

11-08-2007, 09:07 AM

I can't wait to get some good shots.. that thing looks great!

BlackCherry06

11-08-2007, 09:16 AM

I like it, except how they dropped the line of the rear quarter window. That would've looked a lot better as a clean line. I'm sure they've got one in the works, but it needs a lip or small wing on the trunklid.

mikeyb

11-08-2007, 10:03 AM

mikeyb

11-08-2007, 10:04 AM

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/11/8/9071108.002/9071108.002.Mini7L.jpg

There was also a Civic Si and Eclipse. What no Altima Coupe, Accord Coupe, G6 Coupe, 350z, and RX-8?

TinmanMS6

11-08-2007, 11:42 AM

I see a lot of Lexus IS (front end) and Altima coupe (rear) in the design. Some other things I can't quite put my finger on--maybe G35/37 in the overall shape? Very derivative, but not bad. Where this thing is going to shine is going to be price. I'm guessing Hyundai will beat the Mustang at its own "performance bang for the buck" game.

altspace

11-08-2007, 11:44 AM

altspace

11-08-2007, 11:45 AM

Oh, about the rear window line. Sure it's odd, thought kind of unique in a sense. I also would believe they engineered that way to allow more window viewing area from back seats. Many of us are so stuck in a preconceived notion that every line needs to be perfect or straight.

CantCMe

11-08-2007, 11:46 AM

Looks pretty clean...glad it's rwd.

TinmanMS6

11-08-2007, 12:10 PM

Ok, so here's a silly question. All the other cars people have already seen and are fairly recognizable, so why cover emblems. Unless the participants are clueless about automobiles, but would that not defeat the purpose of the testing? I don't know...just odd.

Well, there are a lot of people--very unlike ourselves--who can't run down the specs of every car on the road at a glance. They're just looking for stying impressions, and you don't have to know anything about cars to know if you like the looks or not.

altspace

11-08-2007, 12:11 PM

Excellent reply.

altspace

11-08-2007, 12:12 PM

Guess what? There is an RX-8 in the mix, and the current Tib to the left of it.

http://i14.tinypic.com/7yceu6q.jpg

ZoomZoomH

11-08-2007, 12:15 PM

unfortunately, from the distance the pics were taken, i actually prefer the squarish-angular lines of the Mustang over the new Hyundai :p

altspace

11-08-2007, 12:15 PM

Participants could get up close to each car as well.

http://i16.tinypic.com/8b9s6xz.jpg

ZoomZoomH

11-08-2007, 12:16 PM

Guess what? There is an RX-8 in the mix, and the current Tib to the left of it.

http://i14.tinypic.com/7yceu6q.jpg

and we has a winnar!! (first)

altspace

11-08-2007, 12:20 PM

We sure has.

08 Max

11-08-2007, 12:29 PM

Too bad, I thought they'd build something more serious looking...

protegeV

11-08-2007, 12:47 PM

badd ass little hyundai. dont see how they're gonna fit a V8 in there though(braindead

altspace

11-08-2007, 12:50 PM

Search is your friend.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123670120&highlight=Tiburon

TinmanMS6

11-08-2007, 12:50 PM

It'll sell, because I can guarantee you right now that it will be the least expensive V8 RWD coupe out there.

ZoomZoomH

11-08-2007, 12:52 PM

It'll sell, because I can guarantee you right now that it will be the least expensive V8 RWD coupe out there.

Mustang GT is pretty cheap already (poke)

TinmanMS6

11-08-2007, 12:59 PM

Yeah, but if you look at what they're benchmarking it against, it's going to be cheap. It's Hyundai--this is what they do: Competitive cars for a lot less than the competition.

BlackCherry06

11-08-2007, 01:01 PM

I hope it's more competitive than the Tib was. 170 hp V6 is pitiful.

Phoenix5

11-08-2007, 02:04 PM

mmm...still a Hyundai.(poke)

TinmanMS6

11-08-2007, 02:25 PM

While I'm not a big Hyundai fan, they don't make bad cars. They just seem to have the same problem as Ford: Not bad cars, but not exciting in any way either. I'm pretty sure this is their way of addressing this issue. I'm interested to see how they do at developing a performance suspension. I've driven a V6 Tiburon, and they don't handle half bad.

johnnyB5646

11-08-2007, 02:34 PM

Is it meant to compete with the V6 or V8 mustang? I could see them sqeezing a 3.0 liter V8 with mini pistons pumping out 200hp. jk/

TinmanMS6

11-08-2007, 02:36 PM

New Tiburon Forum member anthony718 just posted some pics of the new Hyundai Coupe totally undisguised. Saying he got the pics from "a friend," he details how the photos came from a market research event back in June. According to the info given, the Coupe would have two engine options, a 2.0L turbo with 215HP and 217 ft-lbs of torque, or a 3.8LV6 with 300HP and 280 ft-lbs. Prices were given as $19,900 for the 4 or $25,900 for the V6. While we have good reason to believe there will be a genuine V8 in the engine bay when we see the car in LA next week, this event was held back in June and changes could have been made since that time.

ZoomZoomH

11-08-2007, 02:54 PM

Is it meant to compete with the V6 or V8 mustang? I could see them sqeezing a 3.0 liter V8 with mini pistons pumping out 200hp. jk/

it's definitely gunning after the Mustang GT, whether in a high-strung V6 or a V8 of its own.

CnoTataymo

11-08-2007, 04:01 PM

It doesn't look that bad. Seems like its got the rear tail lights of the BMW 6 series and the front of the G37/Altima/Accord. The body lines are the same or close to them as well. Pretty nice Hyundai. It's probably roomier then that Mustang GT anyways.

Rio Racer

11-09-2007, 08:16 PM

mmm...still a Hyundai.(poke)
Yeah hyundais are ghey!!! They Suck mah ballzzz!

Antoine

11-09-2007, 09:20 PM

Initial impression...Pretty good! (thumb)

Is the Hyundai V8 any good?

If Hyundai offered an attractive & affordable V8 powered coupe (like the mustang) than I think quite a few people would be interested...especially if it's priced to compete with the mustang...It might also make a great platform for upgrades (again like the mustang)...I'm interested to see the final product.

ForceFed

11-09-2007, 09:34 PM

I'd rock it..At 200 or 300HP.
Period....Definately Hawt.!

redrims

11-11-2007, 04:29 AM

Looks promising. I would definitely pimp it.

jammypwnzor

11-11-2007, 05:37 AM

Wow, can you say G35 and RSX rip..??? Can those Koreans reverse engineer any more cars? Next thing is gonna be a Chinese version of our p5's

coolmazda5

11-11-2007, 08:37 AM

Nice style, the line seems.... OH, WAIT, it's a Hyundai! (boom02).

Hyundai and Kia will need more than one innovative (and "original") model to be seen differently IMO. They will get there but it will not be overnight. The bad stigma of driving one is still too strong IMO.

Mocoso

11-11-2007, 04:07 PM

Cant help but notice if the rear window had kept a clean line it would have looked a LOT like the new Accord... Ill be surprised to see a V8 in a Hyundai and if so I would NOT be buying the first year production run of a new car with a new engine (100K mile warranty or not) from Hyundai (wait it out a year...)

Got to admit it would sound weird to hear a big V8 muscle sound from a Hyundai....

altspace

11-14-2007, 10:12 AM

Spy shots at LA Auto Show.

http://i14.tinypic.com/6x82cjq.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/7yq4483.jpg

turbolife

11-14-2007, 10:26 AM

Wow, can you say G35 and RSX rip..??? Can those Koreans reverse engineer any more cars? Next thing is gonna be a Chinese version of our p5's

Like this??
http://www.4car.net/images/car/2006%20Kia%20Spectra5.jpg

Newf

11-14-2007, 11:23 AM

side on, I like it a lot better then the mustang. And comparing a Ford to a Hyundai.....well, i don't think it matters which one you choose if reliability is your only concern.

But, hyundai has come a LONG LONG ways in a short time. They've advanced a lot faster then some <cough> american companies have

coolmazda5

11-14-2007, 11:30 AM

Like this??
http://www.4car.net/images/car/2006%20Kia%20Spectra5.jpg

For a millisecond I thought it was a P5.... NOT (lol)...

CHICO2003

11-14-2007, 11:35 AM

At first glance I liked it... then the rear side mirror started to annoy me. Dealbreaker imo... Hyundai... if you're listening (and I know you are) Fix this!!!

dmitrik4

11-14-2007, 04:03 PM

i like it...very G37-ish. i also like the rear window line; gives it a little more visual interest, specifically b/c you'd expect it to be a straight line.

chacon101

11-14-2007, 06:00 PM

I like the line on the rear side window looks like the eyes of Amy Winehouse.

I kinda like the car though.

altspace

11-14-2007, 06:05 PM

At first glance I liked it... then the rear side mirror started to annoy me. Dealbreaker imo... Hyundai... if you're listening (and I know you are) Fix this!!!

What's a rear side mirror?

CHICO2003

11-14-2007, 06:51 PM

LOL whoops... rear side window my bad

ZoomZoomH

11-14-2007, 06:53 PM

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-0.jpg

fourthmeal

11-14-2007, 06:54 PM

People seem to forget that Hyundai makes some of the most advanced ships and ship engines out there. Yes, they make copy-cat designs, but they've got the engineers to do the job.

Edit to include that they also make power plants!

TinmanMS6

11-14-2007, 07:42 PM

HYUNDAI UNVEILS REAR-WHEEL DRIVE CONCEPT GENESIS COUPE

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 14, 2007 – Hyundai unveiled its highly anticipated Concept Genesis Coupe during a press conference at the Los Angeles International Auto Show today. The concept car heralds the introduction of an all-new, rear-wheel drive 2 + 2 sports coupe scheduled to join the Hyundai lineup in the spring of 2009. Following the introduction earlier this year of the Concept Genesis sedan, Concept Genesis Coupe signals Hyundai's second step in broadening its appeal to driving enthusiasts.

The Sonic Orange concept is complemented by a Ballistic Black carbon fiber hood, roof and ground effects for reduced weight. Strong hints of the production version are highlighted in its "Z" bodylines and powerful curves. When the production sports coupe arrives, it likely will be the most affordable 300+ horsepower car on the market, and the most dynamic performance car yet from Hyundai.

"Concept Genesis Coupe is the most thrilling, most emotional Hyundai yet," said John Krafcik, vice president, product development and strategic planning, Hyundai Motor America. "When it hits the market in early 2009, we aim to deliver a driving experience that challenges cars like Infiniti G37, at prices more like Mitsubishi Eclipse."

DESIGN PROCESS
"The mission for Concept Genesis Coupe was to create a pure performance car with a design that would capture the imagination of hardcore automotive enthusiasts," said Joel Piaskowski, chief designer at the Hyundai Design Center in Irvine, Calif. "With its aggressive look from just about any angle, I think we have been able to do that."
The powerful curves, surface detail and "Z" bodyside lines come straight from the same underlying inspiration that guided two earlier, well-received concepts: the HCD9 Talus and the HCD8 sports tourer. The undulating beltline borrowed from the Talus adds intrigue while enhancing outward visibility for both the driver and rear passengers. The HCD8 sports tourer's sensual body forms influenced the overall design theme while also providing direction for the concept's assertive headlight and taillight designs.

The look of Concept Genesis Coupe was in part inspired by LeMan's race cars, drifters and by Jada Toys Dub City™ die cast vehicles. The front and rear stance of the Concept Genesis Coupe can be described as sinister.
"Beauty and danger co-exist in the design of the Concept Genesis Coupe," said Eric Stoddard, senior creative designer. "When viewed from a distance, the car is beautiful to look at. But up close it can appear a bit menacing and even a little intimidating."

The concept's rocker panels are drawn close to the ground making the bodysides extra thick and the daylight opening extremely thin, allowing the wheels to be slammed up into bulging fenders. To complete the aggressive sports car look, the depth between the fenders and the greenhouse has been maximized.

Three large heat extractors sculpted into the hood are designed to cool just about any powerful engine. When the concept becomes reality, three large openings in the front fascia will allow for better engine breathing. The dual exhaust tips integrated into the rear fascia repeat the design theme of the front cooling ducts and are surrounded by a large carbon fiber air diffuser.

An arching roofline and tapering greenhouse highlight the exterior profile and emphasize the car's broad shoulders and wide stance. Concept Genesis Coupe rides on 20-inch polished aluminum deep-dish wheels with Hankook 255/35 ZR front tires and 275/35 ZR rear tires.

CONCEPT GENESIS COUPE SPECIFICATIONS
· Configuration: Front engine, rear-wheel drive sports coupe
· Wheelbase: 2,820 mm / 111 inches
· Overall length: 4,666 mm / 183.7 inches
· Overall width: 1,902 mm / 74.9 inches
· Overall height: 1,386 mm / 54.5 inches
· Wheels: 20-inch, five-spoke
· Tires: Hankook 255/35 ZR front and 275/35 ZR rear

PRELIMINARY PRODUCTION CAR DETAILS
· Engine type: V6
· Estimated horsepower: more than 300 horsepower
· Estimated torque: more than 250 lb. ft.
· Displacement: 3.8 liters
· Block material: high pressure die cast aluminum
· Cylinder head material: aluminum
· Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC)
· Valve timing: continuous variable valve timing
· Estimated 0-60 mph: under 6 seconds
· Transmission type: 6-speed manual
· Front brakes: Brembo, 340 mm disc, twin-piston calipers
· Rear brakes: Brembo, 330 mm disc, twin-piston calipers
· Limited slip differential

Hyundai Motor America, headquartered in Fountain Valley, Calif., is a subsidiary of Hyundai Motor Co. of Korea. Hyundai vehicles are distributed throughout the United States by Hyundai Motor America and are sold and serviced through more than 750 dealerships nationwide.

TinmanMS6

11-14-2007, 07:44 PM

Hyundai claims that this will be the most affordable 300+hp car available. The Mustang GT has 300+ and starts at $25k.

TinmanMS6

11-14-2007, 07:49 PM

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-0.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-1.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-10.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-11.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-12.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-13.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-4.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-5.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-6.jpg

Too...many...pictures.
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/hyundai-concept-genesis-coupe-3/489586/

mikeyb

11-14-2007, 11:48 PM

This is on my list to look and test drive when its out.

sanblaster

11-14-2007, 11:54 PM

I love that Hyundai G35 coupe.

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 12:00 AM

I've always thought it looked more like a Lexus IS coupe. Notice it even steals the tailpipes from the Lexus LS.

lasermp5

11-15-2007, 12:03 AM

copy cats or not, it's hot, people are going to buy it, and they're going to make money. Who's the dummie? I'm excited about this car. Hyundai is stirring the pot, and even if you don't like the car... this will still benefit everyone imo. I do have to agree in some small manner that a Hyundai emblem on that car does seem a little funny. Buy hey... I LOVE their new Santa Fe!

AtenzaNY62

11-15-2007, 12:09 AM

the body shape does look like a g37 but nothing else... mazda better keep up with the market, please come out with a mazda6 coupe the next gen style with rwd turboed hmm

mikeyb

11-15-2007, 12:12 AM

It looks very Z4ish coupe.

mikeyb

11-15-2007, 12:13 AM

the body shape does look like a g37 but nothing else... mazda better keep up with the market, please come out with a mazda6 coupe the next gen style with rwd turboed hmm

If Mazda joins the sport coupe market with a Mazda6 coupe it will be FWD or AWD. Not RWD and turboed.

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 12:13 PM

After Hyundai's press conference wrapped up Tuesday, we took the opportunity to grill a couple of Hyundai's design and engineering heads about some of the details surrounding the Genesis Coupe Concept and its production counterpart. While its already been revealed that the new coupe won't be coming with a V8, nor will Hyundai nix the front-wheel-drive Tiburon in favor of a strictly RWD sports car lineup, there are still plenty of questions that needed answering.

Compared to spy shots of the production coupe that were unearthed earlier this month, the concept is a dead ringer for what we'll supposedly see in New York next year. The tapering rear window aft of the B-pillar looks ready for prime time, as does the overall shape of the greenhouse and the dual beltlines flowing from the front fenders and defining the rear haunches. Stylistically, we think it's a hit and can only get better with what Hyundai has in store after the production version goes on sale in late 2008.

Beyond the exterior styling, we're more interested in how this new coupe will compete in the performance arena. It's been confirmed that two engines will be available: a 3.8-liter V6 producing 300 HP and "around" 260 lb.-ft. of torque (250 lb.-ft. is quoted in the press release, but we heard more) and a 2.0-liter turbocharged inline four. While the Hyundai execs we talked to remained mum on the specific output of both mills, we're assured that the turbo'd four will be producing over 200 HP and a similar amount of torque, likely in the 210-220 lb.-ft. neighborhood. When we asked about the overall weight and how it would be distributed, it was made clear that keeping the pounds down and trying to achieve a 50/50 weight balance was of particular importance. Naturally, the engine's placement underneath the hood will dictate how much weight will be sitting atop the nose, but with a bonnet that long, we'd suspect that both mills could be placed pretty far into the engine bay – hopefully behind the strut towers. Continuously variable valve timing will be part of the dual overhead cam package, and power will be sent to either a six-speed manual or a six-speed automatic 'box controllable via steering wheel-mounted paddles. Since the turbocharged inline four will have the added advantages of weighing less and the required exhaust plumbing in place for the turbo, we think that the base model might be the darling of the aftermarket; it certainly won't be left out in the cold like other entry-level offerings.

On the handling end of things, the wheelbase wasn't as long as we'd originally suspected, coming in at 2,820 mm (111 inches), or 115 mm (4.5 inches) less than the Genesis sedan on which its derived. For comparison, what some are calling the Hyundai coupe's closest competitor, the Ford Mustang, has a 2,720 mm wheelbase (107.1 inches). This is going to pay dividends in the driving department, as will the five-link rear suspension and front MacPherson setup. We mentioned earlier that the E46 BMW M3 was the benchmark for bending rigidity, and according to Hyundai's engineers, they've achieved that goal.

The real question remains at what price point the new Hyundai coupe will compete. Although the original leaked information said that the turbo'd four-pot will come in at $19,900, we have our doubts that Hyundai can keep it under the magical $20k ceiling. The V6-equipped model should land somewhere in the mid-$20,000s -- we'd suspect somewhere between $24,000 to $26,000. Regardless, anything with RWD and the choice of a stout V6 or a turbocharged four has our vote. Let's just hope it has the handling credentials to redefine a segment that has long been neglected by some of the stalwarts of the industry.

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 12:14 PM

If the turbo-4 gets classed right, it might be in my garage in a couple years as my weekend/auto-x car, after I pay off a family truckster.

mikeyb

11-15-2007, 01:56 PM

Can you see that Hyundai is going to get into drifting with this?

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 02:03 PM

Probably all kinds of motorsports. I'd like to see them field one of these in SWC.

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 02:06 PM

I can't help but wonder if this car will influence Toyota's decision on whether to bring out the AE86 successor that's been rumored lately.

mikeyb

11-15-2007, 02:24 PM

And the rumoured Nissan Siliva.

ZoomZoomH

11-15-2007, 02:27 PM

and speed up the release of the Mazdaspeed MX-5

mikeyb

11-15-2007, 02:34 PM

^or the new RX-8.

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 02:35 PM

and speed up the release of the Mazdaspeed MX-5

More likely, the new RX-something.

Edit: Damn it Mike.

mikeyb

11-15-2007, 02:38 PM

More likely, the new RX-something.

Edit: Damn it Mike..

Your just to slow sometimes......

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 02:40 PM

.

Your just to slow sometimes......

I wasn't even working this time. I'm working from home today, so I'm blaming the dog.

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 02:41 PM

And the rumoured Nissan Siliva.

You know, I've heard a lot of people tell me that there's a rumored RWD Nissan coupe, but I haven't heard one peep about it from a reputable news source. I'm curious where you heard it from.

mikeyb

11-15-2007, 04:08 PM

I wasn't even working this time. I'm working from home today, so I'm blaming the dog.

I see how it is. You have to blame it on someone else. j/k

You know, I've heard a lot of people tell me that there's a rumored RWD Nissan coupe, but I haven't heard one peep about it from a reputable news source. I'm curious where you heard it from.

I posted it awhile ago.

http://www.7tune.com/?p=92

I remember seeing it somewhere else as well but am unable to find it.

TinmanMS6

11-15-2007, 04:22 PM

I see how it is. You have to blame it on someone else. j/k

I posted it awhile ago.

http://www.7tune.com/?p=92

I remember seeing it somewhere else as well but am unable to find it.

Always.

Dunno, I always take the Japanese auto mags with a grain of salt. They'll hit on something occasionally, but most of the time it seems like wild-ass guesses.

Akaveli

11-15-2007, 04:32 PM

Wow that car looks sick! HHmm....I wonder how Mazda will respond to this.

altspace

11-15-2007, 05:36 PM

Who wrote the story?

altspace

11-15-2007, 05:39 PM

Interesting they don't show the actual car at the show that was used in the study.

evilmonkeyMSP

11-15-2007, 05:42 PM

me rikey dis!

Rotary_Powered

11-16-2007, 01:43 AM

Genesis coupe(hitit2).......I wonder what Mazda is thinking right now?

redrims

11-19-2007, 10:04 PM

I would buy it, then debadge it. Maybe put a Honda badge on it. According to the "Best Looking MSP" thread, 80% of people don't know there cars anyway...lol

CHICO2003

11-19-2007, 10:11 PM

LOL I hope you're kidding.... honda??? lol wtf?

anyway.... this car is cool and all but that rear window is the kiss of death. complete eyesore.... everything else about the car looks great. (except the wheels) but i'm sure those will change.

doubt it'll be much competition for the mustang.... and future camaro and challenger though.

Most of the target market (I'm assuming) for a RWD V8 won't be interested in anything Korea has to offer. It's the same thing that's going on with Toyota trying to break into the big truck market. You see those ads on TV... so obvious what Toyota is trying to overcome. whether they will... that's yet to be determined. I'd imagine the pony car contingent is just as, if not more, loyal (to a fault) when it comes to patronizing dumbestic mfrs

mikeyb

11-20-2007, 04:14 PM

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe2-14_450-o.jpg (http://www.c16mag.com/pittalk_item.aspx?cid=2179)

A factory-backed Hyundai drift team? It doesn't sound so fanciful after last week's introduction of the Genesis Coupe. Everyone who looks at the Concept Genesis has the same reaction, whether the powerplant referenced is a turbocharged four or a torquey V6 - "what a perfect drift car that would be." If this rumor pans out, it seems that Hyundai had the idea first, and they want to give their new RWD coupe some street cred. Maybe we'll find out more when the production version is unveiled at the New York International Auto Show. More grist for the rumor mill: there are serious discussions ongoing between Hyundai and a top drift team to field the Genesis Coupe in the 2008 or 2009 drift season. It would definitely go a long way toward bolstering the image of the new RWD Coupe from Hyundai to have it sliding around, tail out, kicking ass in Formula D, especially among the clientele this vehicle targets.

- Autoblog

avarela86

11-24-2007, 11:53 PM

From what I can see I like the body. Quality of the engine may be another thing to talk about in the future. Ill be back in 2010 when it arrives in America to give my final thoughts.

MS6mike

11-25-2007, 04:31 PM

mmm...still a Hyundai.(poke)

(inout)

flipstylex

02-08-2008, 02:15 AM

350z killer ???

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Genesiscoupe2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Genesiscoupe.jpg

On November 14th, 2007 Hyundai officially unveiled the concept version of the Genesis Coupe. The unveiling was hosted by John Krafcick VP of Corporate Planning for Hyundai and Joel Piaskowski Chief Designer for Hyundai North America. John and Joel briefly talked about the new cars they had in the works and debunked myths that the new Genesis Coupe would replace the current front-drive Tiburon. The actual unveiling was prefaced by a skit (dramatizing the leaked spy-photos) where an orange camouflaged coupe performed a burnout and attempted to elude a motorcycle photographer, demonstrating its sports car capabilities. After the skit, the car was unveiled with the help of the motorcycle photographer.

The car was then described by Krafcick as the "The most emotional, most passionate car from Hyundai ever." Piaskowski explains that the car unveiled is the production version of the coupe modified to reflect what the tuner crowd may do when they "get a hold of it".

The car featured a vented carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber "ground effects" lip kit, carbon fiber fog light surround, carbon fiber roof, a carbon fiber spoiler, and carbon fiber diffuser for weight saving and aesthetic reasons. The car is also said to be the most affordable 300hp sports car.

The complete unveiling can be seen here

Kymerik

02-08-2008, 02:32 AM

hardly a 350z killer because the 350z has a good 150hp on the genesis not to mention the craftsmanship to back up the 70k pricetag, sorry hyundai, maybe next time?

BlueWolfCry

02-08-2008, 02:35 AM

hardly a 350z killer because the 350z has a good 150hp on the genesis not to mention the craftsmanship to back up the 70k pricetag, sorry hyundai, maybe next time?

where did you get 70k from?

It looks good but I don't think they would release it...if they do, it won't look like that

mountjonas

02-08-2008, 02:45 AM

hardly a 350z killer because the 350z has a good 150hp on the genesis not to mention the craftsmanship to back up the 70k pricetag, sorry hyundai, maybe next time?

where are you getting any of your numbers? 150 more hp and 70k? are you thinking of the GTR?

flipstylex

02-08-2008, 04:08 AM

From what i know, the sedan (genesis) is coming out this summer, and it has a v8 option that delivers 370 hp ?... the car roughly starts at 28k...

If they do bring the same v8 tao engine for the coupe at 28k....it would be a killer at 370hp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mountjonas

02-08-2008, 04:11 AM

well, it's 28 for the v6 models. i read somewhere that the v8 would put it closer to 40. still a bargain compared to it's japanese/european counterparts.

Rally Ninja

02-08-2008, 04:12 AM

hardly a 350z killer because the 350z has a good 150hp on the genesis not to mention the craftsmanship to back up the 70k pricetag, sorry hyundai, maybe next time?

Why drugs are bad for you..........

mikeyb

02-08-2008, 08:19 AM

Repost Flipstylex

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123687983&highlight=Hyundai+genesis

This RWD coupe is going after everything from the Nissan 350z, Mazda RX-8, Mustang, and G37c.

BlackCherry06

02-08-2008, 09:05 AM

The V8 isn't happening due to packaging constraints, but the V6 will be putting out 300hp.

Hughes412

02-08-2008, 09:57 AM

I don't think it's to far off. The 350z is running alittle over 300hp and 268 torque. If this thing can produce the torque and is lighter it and comes in around 30 the 350z is in trouble.

Oh and can you imagine how many Tibi people will be trading in?

BlackCherry06

02-08-2008, 10:02 AM

I know they were trying to add some dramatic interest to the car's lines, but I still can't get past that f'ked up rear quarter window. They'd be smart to offer the car in that shade of orange...it looks great.

CantCMe

02-08-2008, 10:05 AM

It looks good but I don't think they would release it...if they do, it won't look like that

+1...it would be smart of them not to change it though, this coupe is beautiful.

dmitrik4

02-11-2008, 10:49 PM

i saw the genesis sedan at the philly auto show this weekend...much better in person than in pics. the sedan, at least, is a pretty sharp-looking car. and there were a LOT of people standing around the display (not as many as at the Smart area, but...).

mikeyb

02-13-2008, 01:04 PM

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2008/2/13/9080213.021/9080213.021.1L.jpg

Hyundai i35 Coupe Photo
We received this photo, believed to be of the production version of the Hyundai Genesis Coupe Concept, from an anonymous source recently. While we can not 100% verify its authenticity, reps for Hyundai refused to deny that it is an accurate representation.
Believed to be called the Hyundai i35 Coupe, the toned down version of the Sonic Orange colored concept car should descend upon dealerships during spring 2009. The car will get a 3.8 liter V6 engine rated at over 300 horsepower, with 250 ft-lb of torque, and attached to a six-speed manual transmission. 0-60 mph times could be less than six seconds. We previously reported that the 2+2 rear-wheel-drive coupe is separate to the front-wheel-drive Tiburon replacement.
Despite having toned-down headlights, no heat extractors on the hood, and no hot girl standing next to the car, the prospective Hyundai i35 Coupe still looks good. We would have liked to have seen the production version maintain the concept's more chiseled side and front styling, but (assuming this is a real photo) this was likely not a realistic option for engineers. One thing that does give us pause is that Hyundai originally said a factory model of the Genesis Coupe Concept would have three slats at the front to assist engine cooling. Remnants of this can be seen at the fog lights, but not in the oversized grille.
We like the five-spoke alloys on the car in this photo, similar to those on the concept, but we are unsure of the wheel size. With deliveries of this car originally planned for early next year, production of an alleged Hyundai i35 Coupe would begin this year. And that means this photo may be the real deal.

mikeyb

02-13-2008, 01:04 PM

When I hear or read i35 I think Infiniti.

BlackCherry06

02-13-2008, 01:17 PM

It's got some very familiar design elements. Other than the strange grille, the entire front clip is very evocative of a Sky, and the rear fenders look very G6 coupe. I like it. Would love to see a rear 3/4 shot.

evilmonkeyMSP

02-13-2008, 01:20 PM

thats a hyundai i would actually buy....

coolmazda5

02-13-2008, 02:04 PM

When I hear or read i35 I think Infiniti.

Yeah, same here, but it seems that Hyundai is creatively using the i as series or something, so far I've seen:
i10, i30, i35, i70...

Donas64

02-13-2008, 06:13 PM

I must say I think it looks great.

MS6mike

02-14-2008, 03:20 AM

hyundai is going for the kill, good job hyundai! Now only if Ford could learn from this!

mountjonas

02-14-2008, 04:05 AM

blargh. alphanumeric naming systems. bring back the integra and the protege

coolmazda5

02-14-2008, 08:22 AM

blargh. alphanumeric naming systems. bring back the integra and the protege

Yeah, yet I think it will depend of the region as well i.e. the Mazda MPV is called the Mazda8 in Hong Kong (boom06)

Inspiration, intelligence, integrity ... (loser) :D

Hyundai used the 2007 Geneva Motor Show to reveal a new c-segment hatchback called the i30 and a new naming scheme with model lines bearing the "i" prefix. Hyundai says "i" stands for inspiration, intelligence and integrity. Eventually, Hyundai's entire lineup will include: i10, i20, i30, i40, and i50.

Here you go, some (google):
http://hyundaii10.co.in/
http://www.leftlanenews.com/hyundai-i30.html
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080213.021/leaked-hyundai-i35-coupe-photo
http://www.leftlanenews.com/early-look-hyundai-concept-genesis-equusi50.html
http://www.leftlanenews.com/hyundais-i70-bhl.html

thepepperman

02-14-2008, 02:53 PM

Looks great, but it is a LOT different than the concept coupe they just finished showing! I thought the idea was that concepts gave a preview of the production model??

coolmazda5

02-14-2008, 03:21 PM

We like the five-spoke alloys on the car in this photo, similar to those on the concept, but we are unsure of the wheel size.

Oh, and the Sonata called, it wants its wheels back. I knew I've seen the design somewhere (scratch)

http://images.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0507_08s+2006_hyundai_sonata+wheel_view.jpg

BlackCherry06

02-14-2008, 03:25 PM

I do have to wonder what the point was behind the concept. I don't think any part of it is represented in the production model, if that's what the black car is.

TinmanMS6

03-16-2008, 11:13 PM

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Hyundai/Genesis/Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_7_c.jpg

We already saw a sneak peek of the new Genesis coupe back in November when the car was caught at a market research venue alongside the Ford Mustang. Hyundai hopes the new Genesis coupe will provide performance and looks to compete with the famous pony car, and on paper it looks like a close fight. These latest images give us details and angles not seen before.

The power source for the Tiburon replacement is still up in the air, but speculation runs from a 2.0L turbocharged mill for the base model - to start under $20,000 - to a 300hp 3.8L V6 mid-range variant to a range-topping ‘Tau’ V8 producing as much as 380hp. Optional accoutrement are rumored to include a limited slip differential and Brembo brakes.

Aside from some obvious concessions to practicality - the heavily louvred carbon fiber hood is gone, for example - the production car looks to stick remarkably close to the concept’s lines, right down to the funky rear window notch. The side rear brake duct is gone, and the front intake/air dam area is tamed a bit, but overall the car provides a very aggressive and sleek demeanor. The Mustang’s blocky retro looks are aging, and the Genesis may be just the thing younger buyers are looking for.

Hyundai’s performance coupe is not to be confused with the luxury sedan of the same name - they share some design cues and possibly some engines, but little else is the same. The large, luxurious sedan will be priced well above the coupe, and though performance should be swift with the 368hp 4.6L V8 under the hood, it is being pitched as a BMW 7-series or Mercedes E-class fighter, not a sports sedan.

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_001.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_002.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_003.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_004.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_005.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_006.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_007.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_008.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_009.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_010.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_011.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_012.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_013.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_014.jpg

TinmanMS6

03-16-2008, 11:20 PM

It's not gorgeous, but it's not ugly either. I think a sub-$20k RWD coupe is going to sell like crazy, period.

Rotary_Powered

03-16-2008, 11:41 PM

That's wicked hot. http://idhitit.org/gallery/general097.jpg

coolmazda5

03-17-2008, 12:55 AM

It's not gorgeous, but it's not ugly either. I think a sub-$20k RWD coupe is going to sell like crazy, period.

The pics seem to be the top trim models (check the wheels and leather at least). I would like to see the sub-$20K model first, Hyundai (and others of course) really likes to strip down models to claim a competitive price (smaller wheel size, no fogs, no sunroof, no leather seats, maybe different tails) so I'm not sure what one of those is going to look like...

Oh, and what happened to the grille? Got me some Elantra flashbacks!

mikeyb

03-17-2008, 10:20 AM

I do not like the quarter windows.

MS6mike

03-17-2008, 11:34 AM

dont like the grille, dont like the wheels, dont like the small brakes, hate the quater panels.... dont like the car!

TinmanMS6

03-17-2008, 11:37 AM

Just realized what it is that has been bothering me about this car. There is a shitload of the new Jaguar XF in the front end.

altspace

03-17-2008, 05:14 PM

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2008/3/17/3080317.003/1020super1.jpg

altspace

03-17-2008, 05:15 PM

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2008/3/17/3080317.003/1023big.jpg

mountjonas

03-17-2008, 05:30 PM

yup, i'd buy that.

EMPIRE

03-17-2008, 06:20 PM

Not bad at all for a hyundai

Foolish

03-17-2008, 08:09 PM

It's not the most original design: the nose looks like a stretched Lexus IS, the profile looks like the Z4 Coupe, the rear looks like the G35. However, the combination is well executed, and while I initially hated the dipped back windows, they've grown on me, and I know my son would appreciate every little bit of additional visibility they might give him!

I'll definitely test drive one. One of each engine, that is!

TinmanMS6

03-17-2008, 09:25 PM

Just realized what it is that has been bothering me about this car. There is a shitload of the new Jaguar XF in the front end.

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Hyundai/Genesis/Coupe/Leak//Hyundai_Genesis_Coupe_Leak_006.jpg

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Jaguar/XF/Jaguar_XF_v.jpg

Rotary_Powered

03-17-2008, 09:46 PM

CHICO2003

03-17-2008, 10:41 PM

As much as I'd love to...I'm just not feelin this design. Hyundai deserves a ton of credit for what they've been able to accomplish and I'm sure this car will be another feather in their cap... but they definitely could have done better.

Even though it's severely underpowered and pretty much has nothing but a low price (and good looks) going for it, the current Tiburon IS remarkably good looking. Many have likened it to the Ferrari 456GT and, badge aside, they're not far off.

To me, they should have stuck with that formula... Stretched the Tib out about 5-8 inches but duplicate the proportions and styling as much as possible. THAT car would have been stunning. (essentially the same proportions AS the aforementioned Ferrari I'm guessing.)

Instead... we get an Altima clone with an awkwardly styled rear quarter window. Hyundai, if you're listening (and I know you... aren't) you played it safe. You're going for the jugular with the power/rwd combo... would have been nice if you were consistent with the styling.

CHICO2003

03-17-2008, 10:48 PM

After taking a second (or 12th) look at the pictures... maybe I was a bit harsh. Though I still feel it's rather bland (especially when compared to the cars it's supposed to compete with.) It's probably not as bad as I made it seem... but that rear quarter window is just disgustingly bad. It's a freakin eyesore! a deal breaker!! Even if this car drove like a friggin Enzo that window would still piss the F out me. Someone should correct that crap with photoshop and send it to Hyundai... no doubt it would look a lot better.

mountjonas

03-17-2008, 11:22 PM

i dunno. i like the window. if it continued with the door in a straight line, i think it would look a lot more bland.

Donas64

03-17-2008, 11:35 PM

the window cuts down on the visual heft in the side profile and I'd like to see it in some other colors before I pass judgment. Not an ugly car, but not the revolution I was expecting.

Donas64

03-17-2008, 11:40 PM

Just curious, how do you guys think Mazda will respond. I mean the RX-8 is getting a refresh, but it's not getting more power. Just "better acceleration" I think they changed over some hydrolic (sp?) parts over to electrical and changed the final drive.

The RX8 will have to compete with the Base model Genesis coupe in terms of power. Nissan at least has the 370Z coming out soon so I don't think they're overly worried (though I bet they are concerned). For is refreshing the Mustang soon and the V8 will be getting more power...but what about our beloved Mazda? They need an MS RX-8 not just an "R3" RX-8 :( At least give us an RX-8 made with lighter and track tuned suspension (ala GT3) parts if you can't deliver an MS.

BMW's 1 series though smaller is another tempting option for consumers.

The RX-8 is still a very capable corner carver but despite what anyone wants to say about the virtues of handling, it is SERIOUSLY out gunned on the power front. Scalpel handling will only get you so far. At the end of almost every curvy winding road is a nice stretch of straight tarmac and the little lead you might have clawed up though the twisties soon vanished in the wake of (insert competitors vehicle here) mountain of torque. While the competition might not have the RX-8's handling prowess, they are not mac trucks either. Mazda: THE RX-8 desperately needs a power bump! 280 rotating ponies should do just fine! We're not looking for Veyron power, just enough to keep up with the field.

As far as I'm concerned, while the RX-8 is mazdas halo car, the MS3 is the brands top dog. I imagine an MS3 wouldn't give up too terribly much to an RX-8 in the twisties. Then again, I could be wrong.

Rotary_Powered

03-18-2008, 12:15 AM

The MS3 is as fast an the S2K around Laguna Seca if that's any indicator:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/112_0706_americas_best_handling_car/laguna_seca.html
Though that track does have some key acceleration straights....
Different Classes though, this is the "coupe" category. Though a few people (enthusiasts) may cross shop a bit.

The Genesis coupe, IS a home run for Hyundai. Hell even the old Tiburon was fun to drive (especially the 6speed "tuned" suspension trim). It just need about 50 more HP. They seem to be good little tuner cars, they seem to get about 30whp from I/E/H (or maybe it could be poor design on stock components, LOL) and respond well to t/c and s/c. But damn they always looked good.

I just don't think the R3 is nearly enough... anyways that's going off topic. I'd actually love to see this car in Black.

TinmanMS6

03-19-2008, 04:52 PM

The cat has been out of the proverbial bag on the Genesis coupe for quite some time now, complete with full high-res photographic evidence. However, despite the massive holes in the photo embargo, factual details of Hyundai’s new front-engine rear-drive coupe have been scarce. That has been remedied by the official reveal in New York this afternoon, and we have the full story.

Rumors of a V8-engined model have proven false. Instead, the expected 3.8L V6 and turbocharged 2.0L four-cylinder are the sole offerings. Producing a Camaro-beating 310hp (on premium fuel) in V6 form, the Genesis coupe will be a serious contender in the performance coupe class. In four-pot form, however, the speculated turbo-four Camaro can breathe easier as the Hyundai only puts out 223hp (again on premium fuel). With a curb weight of just over 3,500lb (1590kg) the V6 coupe will have a power-to-weight ratio in a league with the Mustang GT and Nissan 350Z, although Hyundai likens the coupe to Infiniti’s considerably more luxurious G37. The turbocharged four weighs in about 100lbs less.

Transmission options include a six-speed manual or five-speed auto for the four-cylinder car, or a six-speed manual or six-speed auto for the V6 variant. Both cars get four-wheel disc brakes, and both have an optional four-piston Brembo package available, which ups the diameter from the standard 12.4-inch rear and 12.6-inch front to 13.0 and 13.6, respectively. Claimed top speed is 149mph for the V6 and 137mph for the four-cylinder.

Standard safety equipment includes anti-lock brakes, electronic brake distribution stability control and a full complement of front, side and curtain airbags.

The Genesis coupe is due to hit showroom floors in Q1 2009 as a 2010 model.

mountjonas

03-19-2008, 05:03 PM

how much would you guess a 4cyl, manual tranny, brembo optioned car would cost?

TinmanMS6

03-19-2008, 05:07 PM

GENESIS COUPE SPECIFICATIONS
Configuration: Front engine, rear-wheel drive
Wheelbase: 2820 mm / 111.0 inches
Overall length: 4630 mm / 182.3 inches
Overall width: 1865 mm / 73.4 inches
Overall height: 1380 mm / 54.3 inches
Wheels: 18-inch or 19-inch five-spoke
Engine types: 3.8-liter V6 or 2.0-liter 4-cylinder turbo
Est. horsepower V6: 306 @ 6,000 rpm (regular fuel)
Est. horsepower V6: 310 @ 6,000 rpm (premium fuel)
Est. torque V6: 263 lb. ft. @ 4,700 rpm (regular and premium fuel)
Est. horsepower 2.0t: 212 @ 6,000 rpm (regular fuel)
Est. horsepower 2.0t: 223 @ 6,000 rpm (premium fuel)
Est. torque 2.0t: 217 lb. ft. @ 2,500 rpm (regular and premium fuel)
Block & head materials: aluminum for both engines
Valvetrain: DOHC for both engines
Valve timing: continuously variable valve timing for both engines (Dual for 2.0t)
Estimated 0-60 mph V6: under 6 seconds
Transmission types: 6-speed manual, 5-speed automatic (4-cylinder) or 6-speed manual, 6-speed automatic (V6)
Front brakes: 12.6-inch (standard) 13.4-inch (Brembo package)
Rear brakes: 12.4-inch (standard) 13.0-inch (Brembo package)
Front calipers: single piston floating (standard), monobloc four-piston (Brembo package)
Rear calipers: single piston floating (standard) monobloc four-piston (Brembo package)
Limited slip differential (Optional)
Est. top speed: 149 mph (V6), 137 mph (2.0t)
Base curb weight: 3549 lbs. (V6); 3439 lbs. (4-cylinder)

TinmanMS6

03-19-2008, 05:08 PM

how much would you guess a 4cyl, manual tranny, brembo optioned car would cost?

From what I've heard, I'd guess something like Mustang V6 minus $2-3k.

Edit: The Mustang V6 starts right around $20k, so a little below that. Maybe $18k-ish?

evilmonkeyMSP

03-19-2008, 05:11 PM

a sub 20k RWD coupe.... that would kick ass

mountjonas

03-19-2008, 05:13 PM

From what I've heard, I'd guess something like Mustang V6 minus $2-3k.

Edit: The Mustang V6 starts right around $20k, so a little below that. Maybe $18k-ish?

hell, 22-24 for a fully loaded 4cyl would be sweet. if it came closer to 20, i just might get a new car next year.

TinmanMS6

03-19-2008, 05:16 PM

Yes, but 3439 lbs ain't light. 223 hp isn't going to cut it. It better respond really well to mods.

mountjonas

03-19-2008, 05:24 PM

true... but it'll be enough for me and my grandma-style acceleration.

TinmanMS6

03-19-2008, 06:57 PM

I suppose it will be WRX-like in power:weight, but without the AWD. I guess that makes it decent in the acceleration dept, but we'll see how this tubby bitch handles.

coolmazda5

03-19-2008, 07:18 PM

Check the introductory video in New York, burning tires and the whole thing:
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C14873/

If any of THOSE 2 is less than $20K, Hyundai will go broke ;)

mountjonas

03-19-2008, 09:55 PM

I suppose it will be WRX-like in power:weight, but without the AWD.

well my stock wrx has more than enough powee for me, so i guess it shouldn't be an issue(ricer)

TinmanMS6

03-19-2008, 10:49 PM

Check the introductory video in New York, burning tires and the whole thing:
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C14873/

If any of THOSE 2 is less than $20K, Hyundai will go broke ;)

If you can't tell, that wasn't exactly asphalt they were breaking those tires loose on. Still, if that's the stock suspension, it looks like they should handle pretty well. Roll looked to be very well controlled.

TinmanMS6

03-19-2008, 11:19 PM

By now you know that today's the day Hyundai introduced the much-anticipated Genesis coupe at the 2008 New York Auto Show. The official announcement is that the rear-wheel-drive 2+2 will be available in three flavors: Base, SE with a turbo four-cylinder and SE with V6 power.

But we've also learned that Hyundai is thinking about a fourth model called the Spec R. (Maybe it's still working on the name.) It'll be a tuner special with the SE's four-cylinder turbo power, six-speed manual transmission and Brembo brakes, but little else. Hyundai will strip the car of other unneeded content to lower the coupe's weight and price.

"It'll be the Genesis coupe for the tuner crowd," said a Hyundai source close to the project. "Light, cheap and powerful."

We told them to build the thing. What do you think?

BlackCherry06

03-21-2008, 08:33 AM

So did this end up on the scrap heap, or is it the EU version of the Genesis coupe?

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2008/2/13/9080213.021/9080213.021.1L.jpg

TinmanMS6

03-21-2008, 10:29 AM

Don't know what that is. New Tiburon perhaps? They've been saying that the Genesis coupe and Tiburon will both exist, but I still haven't seen much of the Tibby.

Sal Collaziano

03-26-2008, 05:07 PM

So did this end up on the scrap heap, or is it the EU version of the Genesis coupe?

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2008/2/13/9080213.021/9080213.021.1L.jpg
I wish it looked like that... That's a great looking front end...

MS6mike

03-27-2008, 05:03 AM

another concept gone bad!

TinmanMS6

07-24-2008, 03:28 PM

Hyundai took a major step toward reinventing itself as a legitimate performance-car manufacturer by inviting 20 aftermarket companies to measure the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe today at its North American headquarters in Fountain Valley, California.

Hyundai Motor America officials called this the official SEMA measuring session for the company's rear-drive coupe, which is based on the shortened version of the 2009 Hyundai Genesis Sedan platform.

"Normally, we've done this closer to the start of production," Wayne Killen, director of strategic product planning for Hyundai Motor America, told us. "But we really wanted the aftermarket companies to get a start on it."

The aftermarket companies ran the gamut, ranging from Wet Okole Hawaii, which makes waterproof seat covers, to Garrett-Honeywell and HKS.

You'll recall from the 2008 New York Auto Show that Hyundai will be offering both a 310-horsepower 3.8-liter V6 and a 223-hp, 2.0-liter, turbocharged, inline four-cylinder in the 2010 Genesis Coupe. Not surprisingly, the 2.0-liter turbo got most of the attention from the tuners, and since the engine itself is a direct relation of the 2.0-liter in the Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart and Evolution X, most weren't seeing it for the first time.

"I'm more excited about this than I am about that one," said John Espino of Gale Banks Engineering, while standing next to the turbo coupe. "If you look under the hood, there's more room to do stuff." However, he noted that his company is working on a supercharger for the V6 Genesis coupe, in addition to planned upgrades for the turbocharger and intercooler on the four-cylinder model.

"There's an engine mount underneath the turbocharger so that kind of limits how big you can go," Garrett's Brian Regnier told us. "But there's always a way around that." He said the main contingency for Garrett in developing turbo upgrades for the Genesis coupe is public reaction to Hyundai's first rear-wheel-drive coupe. "We'll wait to see what the reception for this vehicle is at track days," he noted.

Hyundai officials also confirmed today that the company will offer Track versions of both the four-cylinder turbo and the V6 coupe. "They'll be a low percentage of the mix," Joyce admitted, "but they will be uncompromised in their performance."

In addition to retuned suspension compared to the standard versions of the coupe, the Genesis Track models will pick up a front strut tower brace and a full set of Brembo brakes, including four-piston monobloc calipers up front.

Regardless of the engine underhood, Track models will come with Bridgestone Potenza RE050A summer tires, sized 225/40R19 up front and 245/40R19 in back. Non-Track Genesis coupes get 225/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE092As in front and 245/45s in back.

Hyundai also revealed some basic stats on the likely customer base today. The four-cylinder turbo coupe is predicted to draw an even mix of men and women, while the company anticipates an older, more affluent and 70 percent male crowd to embrace the V6 coupe. The highest-volume exterior color is expected to be Gray Titanium at 18 percent.

Known internally as "BK," the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe will go into production in December 2008 at Hyundai's Alsan, Korea, plant. Look for the cars to arrive at dealerships in early February 2009.

What this means to you: Hyundai hopes the 2010 Genesis Coupe will pick up where the Nissan 240SX left off, and is doing everything it can to ensure full aftermarket support when the coupe goes on sale.

TinmanMS6

07-24-2008, 03:38 PM

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.eng.1.500.jpg
Engineers from Garrett and Synapse Engineering take a long, hard look at the plumbing in the turbocharged 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.f34.500.jpg
This yellow V6 Genesis coupe is a T2 prototype, meaning one step before preproduction. It's being measured for a car cover by reps from Coverking.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.r34.500.jpg
Techs from Wet Okole Hawaii are taking measurements for waterproof seat covers they're designing for the Genesis.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.int.500.jpg
This is the final interior treatment for the Track models. The seats feature red cloth and black leather.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.whl.500.jpg
Hyundai is proud of these gunmetal-finish 19-inch wheels, which will be standard on the Track.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.eng.2.500.jpg
The strut tower brace identifies this four-cylinder turbo coupe as the Track version.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.eng.3.500.jpg
Understandably, the V6 takes up a lot more room in the engine bay, leaving less room for modifications.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0723/10.hyundai.genesis.cpe.f34.2.500.jpg
Tuners took extensive photos of the turbocharged Genesis coupe during the measuring session.

[Edmund's Inside Line]

evilmonkeyMSP

07-24-2008, 03:39 PM

that car looks kick ass....like a baby G37 lol

TinmanMS6

07-24-2008, 03:41 PM

I think it's cool, but not all that exciting, really. I don't think it'd stand out in a crowd. I'm just excited about the return of affordable RWD coupes.

Donas64

07-24-2008, 03:42 PM

umm..the prelim shots didn't do it justice. Seeing it in that environment is awesome. I gotta admit, it looks awesome. The blue and yellow are so vivid.

MS6mike

07-24-2008, 11:30 PM

i actually think the did a good job! it it has the same engine as the evo, then its the best in class period! keep in mind i drive a g37 and this looks to familiar!

altspace

07-25-2008, 07:49 AM

It's ok. Looks a lot like a Pontiac.

TinmanMS6

07-25-2008, 09:11 AM

i actually think the did a good job! it it has the same engine as the evo, then its the best in class period! keep in mind i drive a g37 and this looks to familiar!

It's only 223hp. It's based on the same engine as the Evo, but not the same engine.

I'm still waiting for somebody to mention the differential. Open? Limited slip? Electronic? ????

Donas64

07-25-2008, 01:03 PM

It's ok. Looks a lot like a Pontiac.

These days thats not really a horrible thing. The G8, G6 Coupe and solstice are not bad looking cars.

http://images.getauto.com/vehicles/1G2Z/1G2ZM151264199593-1.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/auto_shows/naias_2006/6677639/0602_naias_01+2007_pontiac_solstice_gxp+front_view .jpg

http://image.motortrend.com/f/photo_gallery/9713382/112_0804_01z+2008_pontiac_g8_GT+front_view.jpg

evilmonkeyMSP

07-25-2008, 01:04 PM

mmmmmm G8

mazdaspeedster3

07-25-2008, 01:16 PM

http://www.hyundaiexchange.com/forum/files/bk11_131.jpg http://www.hyundaiexchange.com/forum/files/bk14_165.jpg http://www.hyundaiexchange.com/forum/files/bk13_212.jpg http://www.hyundaiexchange.com/forum/files/bk12_902.jpg

Hyundai has been quoted as calling it their Mustang beater!

coolmazda5

07-25-2008, 01:42 PM

These days thats not really a horrible thing. The G8 is not a bad looking car

Corrected ;)

mazdaspeedster3

07-25-2008, 02:15 PM

Corrected ;)

Hmm... He spoke to several cars, plural, and that they are not bad looking cars. Proper english. LOL... How are you anyway? Ordering the 5 next weekend.

TinmanMS6

07-25-2008, 02:23 PM

Hmm... He spoke to several cars, plural, and that they are not bad looking cars. Proper english. LOL... How are you anyway? Ordering the 5 next weekend.

Yup, and he was disagreeing. (braindead

Donas64

07-25-2008, 05:17 PM

Hyundai has been quoted as calling it their Mustang beater!

I'd buy one over a mustang. Arguably better looking, just as much power in V6 trim and you know the turbo 4 banger is a few mods away from some impressive numbers.

TinmanMS6

07-25-2008, 07:34 PM

I'd buy one over a mustang. Arguably better looking, just as much power in V6 trim and you know the turbo 4 banger is a few mods away from some impressive numbers.

It's got to handle better than a Mustang too. Being that the turbo 4's related to the Evo, you've got to think there're going to be a shitload of mods for it. I'm betting by SEMA we see both engines putting out around 400 hp.

Donas64

07-25-2008, 08:13 PM

It's got to handle better than a Mustang too. Being that the turbo 4's related to the Evo, you've got to think there're going to be a shitload of mods for it. I'm betting by SEMA we see both engines putting out around 400 hp.

Add all that to the base price and you got a pretty good value for money. Hyundai's build quality has been steadily increasing and they still have a great warranty. I think this thing has a change to sell really really well. Only time will tell.

MS6mike

07-25-2008, 09:56 PM

TinmanMS6

07-25-2008, 10:09 PM

well i am waiting to see the diferences between the evo engine and this genesis engine. if its just a detuned evo engine i might just swap my g for a tunner ready beast. g37 is great expensive but not really a tunner car unless yo uadd 2 turbos. and then the engine go boom!

I'm sure it's mostly just a smaller turbo. I'm surprised they didn't go into more detail on that. They almost talked about it like it was common knowledge.

MS6mike

07-26-2008, 06:28 PM

were did you guys got info saying that the 2.0 engine is from mitsubishi??

TinmanMS6

07-26-2008, 09:24 PM

...since the engine itself is a direct relation of the 2.0-liter in the Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart and Evolution X, most weren't seeing it for the first time.

I would actually guess that it's very close to the RalliArt motor. Find the differences there, and you're probably 90% there.

MS6mike

07-26-2008, 10:32 PM

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?p=361

TinmanMS6

07-30-2008, 03:10 PM

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/07/rmr_genesis_renderingrevised_450op.jpg

Hyundai is planning a big showing at this year's SEMA show, dispatching with orange Elantras and be-winged Accents in favor of highlighting the automaker's first foray into rear-wheel-drive performance. Six concepts are planned – three Genesis sedans and three Genesis coupes – with both vehicles getting the attention of the country's top aftermarket specialists.

Hyundai will be releasing teasers of the three Genesis coupe projects in the coming weeks, but the first is proof that the aftermarket is taking Hyundai's new turbocharged 2.0-liter coupe seriously. Rhys Millen Racing has rendered up its own interpretation of what the Genesis coupe is capable of, with an eye on the Pikes Peak Hill Climb, Formula D drift series and Redline time attack.

The RMR coupe will benefit from a prototype wide body kit and turbo setup, built in house by Rhys and his team, sending power to the rear wheels through an HKS heavy-duty sequential gearbox. Suspension duties are handled by a set of K&W coilovers, along with Enkei racing wheels and Bridgestone RE-01 tires. Brembo brakes are mounted fore and aft, and inside a Sparco steering wheel and seats join an carbon fiber dash and an eight-point roll cage.

According to Hyundai's PR man, Miles Johnson, Millen is making regular calls to Hyundai engineers to extract every last bit of performance from the coupe, and expect more details on final output and the other two coupes throughout the summer.

TinmanMS6

07-30-2008, 03:11 PM

Full press release:

Hyundai teams up with Rhys millen racing to introduce genesis coupe at SEMA show

FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., July 30, 2008 – Hyundai Motor America announced today that it has teamed up with Rhys Millen Racing (RMR) to create the "Art of Speed" Genesis Coupe show car. The Hyundai RMR "Art of Speed" Genesis Coupe 2.0t will be on display at the Hyundai booth at the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show in the Las Vegas Convention Center from Nov. 4 – Nov. 7, 2008. The RMR Genesis Coupe will be the first of many Genesis Coupes to be modified by some of the best tuner shops in the world. This RMR – developed Genesis Coupe will be a fully functional race car capable of putting the driver in the winner's circle.

"The unique part of this project is that it will be moving art, which is why we named it the 'Art of Speed,'" says Rhys Millen, professional race driver and founder of RMR. "The focus will be on the engine and a radical body design to complement the factory body lines. We are going to transform the Genesis Coupe into an apex-carving machine with jaw-dropping looks. We think it has the possibility of being one of the coolest cars at the show."

The RMR Genesis Coupe will be powered by a 2.0-liter DOHC inline four-cylinder engine with RMR turbo kit for maximum horsepower and torque. It will be equipped with a heavy-duty HKS sequential transmission and a K&W coil over suspension to put that additional power to the ground. These are just some of the planned mechanical modifications to turn the Genesis Coupe into a race car capable of running in the Pikes Pike Hill Climb, Formula D or Redline Time Attack series.

"We've been excited about working with Rhys Millen since the minute he walked through our doors at Hyundai Motor America," says John Krafcik, vice president, product development and strategic planning, Hyundai Motor America. "Genesis Coupe is a rear-wheel drive performance machine we designed to capture the hearts of hardcore automotive enthusiasts, so we can't wait to see Rhys' RMR Genesis Coupe on the race track."

The RMR Genesis Coupe will be outfitted in a silver and black paint scheme and dominated by a RMR wide body kit, functional hood scoop and a carbon fiber wing. Enkei racing wheels and Bridgestone Protenza RE-01 tires surrounding Brembo brake calipers complete the package.

Inside will be a racing cockpit with Sparco steering wheel and seats, eight-point roll cage and a RMR carbon fiber dash.

TinmanMS6

07-30-2008, 03:11 PM

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/07/rmr_genesis_renderingrevised.jpg

coolmazda5

07-30-2008, 03:39 PM

^^ Nice, Hyundai moved up in my ladder by one step today, let's see how it performs.

They just need to start transferring the design message into the rest of the fugly Hyundai/KIA car line-ups they have today, something a-la ZOOM-ZOOM from Mazda.

TinmanMS6

07-30-2008, 05:40 PM

It will be interesting to see how many Genesis coupes are there in all. If Hyundai is involved in three--I guess I would assume they'd do two turbos and a V6--there're bound to be many more from aftermarket tuners themselves.

coolmazda5

07-30-2008, 10:07 PM

Hmm... He spoke to several cars, plural, and that they are not bad looking cars. Proper english. LOL... How are you anyway? Ordering the 5 next weekend.

Oopps, I missed this earlier. But oh well, that was the point, to make it a single car instead of a list (just the G8). It was just a silly joke, I also think the G6 and the Solstice do not look as bad as you would expect from GM (TinmanMS6 will bash me for this comment, LOL)

So, Got MZ5 yet? If you need one NOW, I can trade your MS3 for one of my people movers, no questions asked (naughty) (lol2)

Anyway, back on topic...

It will be interesting to see how many Genesis coupes are there in all. If Hyundai is involved in three--I guess I would assume they'd do two turbos and a V6--there're bound to be many more from aftermarket tuners themselves.

Whoaa, 3 different models? These guys are really going head-on with the coupe, no doubt. Oh well, they have to take advantage of 2 things: weak GM, Ford and Chrysler sales and budget to spend thanks to the fact that their fugly cars sell well in the US

Rotary_Powered

07-30-2008, 10:23 PM

Which one would be more of the RX-8 competitor? (state reasoning) The V6 or the I4-t

Donas64

07-31-2008, 08:05 AM

Which one would be more of the RX-8 competitor? (state reasoning) The V6 or the I4-t

I'd think the I4-t due to its lighter weight and we can assume nimbler handling.

I think either would probably be faster in a straight line than the 8 though or perhaps a drivers race with the 4 cyl turbo. Heres hoping for comparisons soon.

Hughes412

07-31-2008, 08:46 AM

I like the rear of the car. Very masculine. But that front end has to go. It's the typical cheap looking Korean design that made the Tiburon look cheap.

coolmazda5

07-31-2008, 11:31 PM

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/07/rmr_genesis_renderingrevised_450op.jpg

I knew it looked so good (scratch) ;)

Rendered Rip Off? Racy Genesis coupe illustration called into question

Yesterday's announcement that Hyundai would be bringing three Genesis coupe concepts to SEMA has been met with some skepticism surrounding the legitimacy of the first rendering Rhys Millen Racing released.

John Sibal posted the RMR Genesis coupe illustration on his site today, along with his own LF-A rendering that we featured back in April. There's a striking similarity between the LF-A's front bumper design – specifically the molded winglet, side air intake, air dam and tow-hook placement. We've tried contacting Hyundai about the matter, hoping they could provide contact information for the artist who drew up the coupe, but got stuck in voicemail Hell instead. While this could just be a case of indirect inspiration, we somehow doubt it and are looking forward to getting the full story soon. Thanks to all who tipped in.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/07/genesis_lf-a_450op.jpg

Source:
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/31/rendered-rip-off-racy-genesis-coupe-illustration-called-into-qu/

TinmanMS6

08-07-2008, 03:53 PM

Hyundai has announced that its upcoming Genesis Coupe will be available with a high-performance brake package from Brembo. For the Coupe’s front 18in wheels, Brembo engineers developed 13.4in x 1.1in (340mm x 28mm) rotors and four-piston fixed calipers. The rear wheels, meanwhile, are fitted with 13in x 0.78in (330mm x 20mm) rotors and smaller four-pot calipers.

TinmanMS6

08-07-2008, 03:54 PM

If this car comes in under 3000 lbs, those brakes are huge. I quietly get a little too excited by big factory brakes.

njaremka

08-07-2008, 04:21 PM

i highly doubt it will come in under 3000lbs - my guess is about 3200-3300lbs

TinmanMS6

08-07-2008, 04:48 PM

No need to guess...I forget stuff a lot.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3745745&postcount=176

MS6mike

08-08-2008, 12:17 AM

can anybody post a link were i can see if this car uses the same 2.0 liter the evoX uses???

TinmanMS6

08-08-2008, 11:19 AM

can anybody post a link were i can see if this car uses the same 2.0 liter the evoX uses???

I haven't seen it written yet exactly what the differences are, just that they're related. Based on the numbers, it would appear to be the same engine as the new Lancer RalliArt.

Rotary_Powered

08-09-2008, 02:17 PM

I'm starting to crave this car a little. I'm up in the air on my next car in a couple of years, I'm between this, the "new" wrx (09+), or an RX-8.

Rotary_Powered

09-05-2008, 11:41 PM

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/03/sema-preview-hks-hyundai-genesis-coupe/
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/09/hyundai_a2f%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC.jp g

Hyundai made a huge splash at the New York Auto Show this year with its Genesis Coupe, and it's looking for a repeat performance next month at the SEMA Show in Las Vegas. The Koreans are working with several aftermarket tuners to create special coupes for the tuner show and they just passed along a photo of one of them. This example was created by HKS USA and includes the usual array of body work mods along with plenty of mechanical upgrades. Hyundai hasn't provided details on the engine re-work yet other than noting it's got an HKS GT Turbo package, so presumably this car will use the 2.0L turbo four-cylinder as its starting point. Since the guts of the engine are being beefed up, we can safely assume this thing will be running considerably higher boost than a stock Genesis. Hopefully the HKS Hipermax III fully-adjustable suspension will help make all this power usable on the street as well as the track. The Genesis Coupe may just yet prove to be a very formidable competitor to all those new Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers appearing over the next few months, and we can't wait for our chance to drive one.

mountjonas

09-06-2008, 01:37 AM

IIRC, autoblog posted the korean prices. converted from won to USD, it was about $23k for the 4 banger with brembos. even if it was around 25k with the brembo package, that's a pretty good deal.

erick pina

09-06-2008, 01:40 AM

time to drift.

mikeyb

09-06-2008, 09:54 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyk8haSjVow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyk8haSjVow)

coolmazda5

09-06-2008, 12:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyk8haSjVow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyk8haSjVow)

Very insightful, the ad production should have cost them a fortune (lol)

But anyway, for the ones in the market for one of these, it can be a good thing, it may stimulate curiosity.

mikeyb

10-14-2008, 09:54 AM

http://www.carmiddleeast.com/pictures/car_images/Hyundai/hyundaicoupe1.jpg
http://www.carmiddleeast.com/pictures/car_images/Hyundai/hyundaicoupe2.jpg

http://www.carmiddleeast.com/pictures/car_images/Hyundai/hyundaicoupe3.jpg

http://www.carmiddleeast.com/pictures/car_images/Hyundai/hyundaicoupe4.jpg

http://www.carmiddleeast.com/pictures/car_images/Hyundai/hyundaicoupe5.jpg

http://www.carmiddleeast.com/pictures/car_images/Hyundai/hyundaicoupe6.jpg

Let’s talk about Hyundai.

Meh. Korean, competent, dull.
Correct, except for the last part. Hyundai is now officially Exciting, thanks to this – the new Genesis Coupe. It’s Hyundai’s first proper sports car and CAR Middle East is the first anywhere in the world to drive it. And that means we’re well placed to tell you that as petrolheads, you should start taking Hyundai seriously.

It does look pretty smart. But isn’t it just a successor to the Tiberon? That was hardly cutting edge.
True, the Genesis Coupe does have its roots in the Tiberon. But this new car is far, far removed from the car that could best be described as, erm…

Competent but dull?
Exactly, although it laid the foundations for a decent-looking, decent-handling sports car. The Genesis Coupe takes that much, much further and is the pinnacle of Hyundai’s reinvention of late. The Seoul-based manufacturer wants to be a brand that people actually desire, rather than just an indication of a practical, reliable, affordable appliance.

This new car then, is a pretty one, designed to take on the likes of Infiniti’s G37 and the Nissan Altima and Honda Accord Coupes. The front bears a slight resemblance to a Mercedes-Benz SLK and the rear has a shade of the Pininfarina-styled Peugeot 406 Coupe about it. The flanks sport a signature Z-shape formed by the shoulder lines from the front and the rear, while the back side windows have a dip in the beltline that we may well see again in future models.
Under the bonnet is a factory-built 3.8-litre V6 that sends 310bhp to the rear wheels. Mount that on an ultra stiff chassis and chuck in a limited slip differential and you have a recipe for something hitherto unheard of at Hyundai – oversteer.

So this is a Korean car you can drift?
Oh yes. The internet has been buzzing with excitement about this car since a concept version first appeared last year, and with good reason. Here is a 2+2 coupe that you can have serious tail-happy fun with but at a very reasonable price. The engine is a little beauty, with plenty of grunt controlled by very lively throttle pedal. The chassis is nicely balanced, stiffer than a last-generation BMW M3 and turning the electronic stability control off allows for some top quality rear-wheel slidey fun accompanied by a thoroughly enjoyable sound track from the dual exhausts.

It sounds too good to be true.
Well, almost. It’s true that the car is very good to drive, although it’s not perfect. The steering could use a little more weight and feel, and at higher speeds the front wheels do have a tendency to dive into all the imperfections on the road. The gearbox works very well in both auto and manual modes, but doesn’t have paddle shifts. And from a practical point of view it’s not ideal. The boot aperture is tiny, but that does contribute to the stiffness of the chassis. Having said that, the rear seats are roomier than the Tiberon, although adults would still get cramp after anything more than short hops around town.

Does it still feel like a Hyundai?
Kind of. The Koreans have moved their game on considerably in recent years. The dash is soft touch, the gear knob is a handsome beast and the chunky sports seats grip you around the bends just as they should. There are also some very fetching aluminium pedals and door sills to spruce up an otherwise fairly standard interior, and there’s full iPod and USB stick compatibility. The instrument binnacle and some of the switchgear still feels a little on the plasticky side though – Volkswagen and Toyota won’t be worrying about the Korean’s quality levels yet. But this is a car that isn’t just about functionality. It has soul to it, emotion - something we haven’t really seen from Korea before.

Should I want one?
We think you should, yes. For real sports car fun at rock-bottom prices, you can’t do much better. The Genesis is the latest in a line of Hyundais that have really pushed their game on, after the Veracruz and the Genesis saloon. Make no mistake - the Koreans are here, and they’re here to stay.

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coolmazda5

10-14-2008, 10:05 AM

Looks good

Rush

10-14-2008, 10:32 AM

Looks VERY good. Especially in NOT-yellow.

http://www.thegenesiscoupe.com/wallpaper/1024x768_wallpaper1.jpg

mikeyb

10-14-2008, 10:41 AM

Looks VERY good. Especially in NOT-yellow.

http://www.thegenesiscoupe.com/wallpaper/1024x768_wallpaper1.jpg

WOW!! It looks alot like a G37c in that color.

Rush

10-14-2008, 10:43 AM

WOW!! It looks alot like a G37c in that color.
I know! I've always loved the lines of the G35/G37 -- so I've been eyeing the Genesis Coupe like a hawk. :D

mikeyb

10-14-2008, 10:45 AM

I know! I've always loved the lines of the G35/G37 -- so I've been eyeing the Genesis Coupe like a hawk. :D

Same here.

I'm torn between the Genesis Coupe and the Camaro LT 3.6L for my next car.

coolmazda5

10-14-2008, 11:40 AM

Looks VERY good. Especially in NOT-yellow.

Same here.
I'm torn between the Genesis Coupe and the Camaro LT 3.6L for my next car.

Yeah, but is still a Hyundai. If I were to buy one, I'd wait until the 2nd year after launch. 1st gen car and 1st year of launch sounds scary to me (dunno)

Rush

10-14-2008, 12:10 PM

Yeah, but is still a Hyundai. If I were to buy one, I'd wait until the 2nd year after launch. 1st gen car and 1st year of launch sounds scary to me (dunno)
Any car in it's first year of launch is always something to be avoided. I speak from experience on this as a MSP owner. Ugh.

And who cares if it's a Hyundai? If it's a good package for a kickass price, especially with the economy these days -- I'll seriously consider it!

hollar1211

10-14-2008, 12:47 PM

still a hyundai. the tiburon was a quick v6 for a good price and no one considered it.

mikeyb

10-14-2008, 01:53 PM

still a hyundai. the tiburon was a quick v6 for a good price and no one considered it.

Hyundai has come along way in its short history. They have better fit and finish then my Nissan. I just drive a Genesis 4.6 V8 and what a really nice car. When I was filling the tank at the gas station I had a few people ask me if it was either a Lexus or Infiniti.

Kymerik

10-14-2008, 01:56 PM

still a hyundai. the tiburon was a quick v6 for a good price and no one considered it.

Nod. There were too many choices back then though.

Cougar, Neon SRT4, Cobalt SS, Celica, RSX, Civic Si, WRX...uhm...im missing some im sure, but nowadays, theres a much smaller field of challengers for the Price.

sure, not all listed above are coupes but they're essentially in the same class, small econoboxes with peppy lil engines and a teen/twenties target market.

Today we have what, the Ralliart, WRX, Cobalt SS...that's about it anymore. (Speed3 if you wanna be whores) If i am missing anything please correct me.

coolmazda5

10-14-2008, 02:21 PM

Any car in it's first year of launch is always something to be avoided. I speak from experience on this as a MSP owner. Ugh.

Same with my 1st Mazda5 (bought in 05), TSBs and even a recall, but nothing critical that scared me, all the essentials working with no issues so far. Plus Mazda and dealer have done very good job, so no brainer getting a 2nd one

And who cares if it's a Hyundai? If it's a good package for a kickass price, especially with the economy these days -- I'll seriously consider it!

I do care :p. I'm not a brand snob (LOL, with Mazda) and yes, Kia and Hyundai have come a long way, but still. Possibly stigma? (dunno)

Olestra

10-14-2008, 02:24 PM

The Tiburon V6 was hardly quick, it was in fact terrible. They also weren't priced such that it was easy to pick a Tibby over a Civic.

I hope that doesn't happen to the Genesis. If this car is really as great as its buzz, it'll make a name for itself.

TinmanMS6

10-14-2008, 09:15 PM

As well as unleashing its all-new Genesis Coupe in the Korean market, Hyundai also released officials details on its rear-wheel-drive coupe that is scheduled to arrive at U.S. dealerships in spring 2009. But let's cut to the chase. The Genesis Coupe will be offered with a choice of two engines, an entry-level 2.0 Turbo and a 3.8 V6.

The 2.0-liter turbocharged 4-cylinder unit develops 210PS at 6000rpm (210HP for US market) and 30.5kgm of torque at 2000rpm (222.7-lbs/ft for US market) which allows it to sprint from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) in a mediocre 8.3 seconds - not exactly the performance you'd expect from a sports coupe. -Continued

The range topping Genesis Coupe comes equipped with Hyundai's new 3.8-liter V6 Lambda RS that delivers 303PS at 6300rpm (306HP for US market) and a peak torque of 36.8kgm (266.2-lbs/ft) at 4700rpm enabling to accelerate from zero to 100km/h in a respectable 6.3 seconds.

Both engines are mated to a standard six-speed manual transmission. The Genesis Coupe 2.0T offers an optional five-speed automatic with SHIFTRONIC while the 3.8-liter V6 offers a ZF six-speed automatic transmission with SHIFTRONIC.

The Genesis Coupe will be offered with a Limited Slip Differential (LSD) as well as with an Electronic Stability Program (ESP). Hyundai said that there will also be an optional track–use performance package that will include high performance disc brakes from Brembo. For the front 18–inch wheels, Brembo engineers developed 13.4–inch x 1.1–inch rotors (340mm x 28mm) and four–pot fixed calipers (42mm+42mm) while the rear setup features 13.0–inch x 0.78–inch rotors (330mm x 20mm) gripped by four–pot fixed calipers (32mm+28mm).

Depending on the market and the trim level, the Genesis Coupe's equipment will include USB/iPod connectors, auxiliary audio inputs, 5.6-inch information display unit (for audio controls, digital clock, climate control, inside/outside temperature) and steering wheel-mounted remote controls for the audio system. An eight-speaker Infinity sound system is optional.

The Korean automaker announced that it hopes to sell 40,000 Genesis Coupes annually, 5,000 in Korea and 35,000 in overseas markets. Hyundai said that the Genesis Coupe's target customer is a middle-aged male (64 percent) looking for superior performance in terms of acceleration and handling. In the U.S., the competitive set includes the Mitsubishi Eclipse, Nissan Altima Coupe and Ford Mustang.

Korean retail prices start at 23,200,000 Korean won ($18,800 US or €13,800) for the base 2.0L Turbo version and with full options, including the V6 Lamda RS engine, the Coupe tops out at 33,920,000 Korean won ($23,400 US or €20,200).