Msp making Noise help

[silvermsp]

OK Today i notice a strange noise coming from under my hood, it only does it when my clutch is out, but it goes away when pressed in. I have a ACT street clutch and had it for about 30k miles now. Does anybody know what is going wrong here?????
thanks

[Packerfan]

Are you sure its not the limited slip diff they are notorious for blowing.

[Andrewsmc]

owch, i hope not bro.

[crashkelly]

OK Today i notice a strange noise coming from under my hood, it only does it when my clutch is out, but it goes away when pressed in. I have a ACT street clutch and had it for about 30k miles now. Does anybody know what is going wrong here?????
thanks

can you describe the ruckus?

[turbolife]

Rattle? If so, throw-out/release bearing.

[silvermsp]

its more of a spining sound. its been doing it for about a year but now just got a lil louder and by the way this is my 2nd lsd


audio on noise

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABmkV1yEuY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-5iOCfxbxXU

[silvermsp]

new audio

[APiC]

my car has been doing the same thing for a while now the dealership said it wasnt normal gave me a new clutch, still made the sound and called it normal.

[neox.286]

mine does it too

no idea what it is lol

[hoindawall]

hate to say it, but it is probably the bearings in the transmission

[neox.286]

possibly

but it goes away completely when the clutch is in....I really dont know much about transmissions, but why would that make a difference?

[hoindawall]

Basically the clutch is what connects the engine to the transmission. When you're not pressing the clutch pedal, the clutch is stuck to the flywheel which causes the transmission to rotate with the engine.

When you push in the clutch pedal, the clutch separates from the flywheel which causes the transmission to stop rotating.

[neox.286]

yes....I know that

but if your in neutral the clutch isnt attached to the flywheel or else the car would stall when your stopped

and this happens when your stopped, in nuetral....it will be noticeable when the clutch it out in nuetral, but not when its in while in nuetral or any other gear

[fr0st]

clutch bearing

[hoindawall]

i think i'm missing something here...when does yours make noise?

[neox.286]

sorry, I cant watch the videos at the moment cause I dont have any speakers lol

it makes noise when the clutch is out in neutral, either when the car is moving or not moving, doesnt matter....it goes away when the clutch is depressed

only happens in nuetral

[hoindawall]

but if your in neutral the clutch isnt attached to the flywheel or else the car would stall when your stopped


Ok, the car doesn't stall because the gears inside the transmission freewheel when the clutch is attached to the flywheel in neutral.

[neox.286]

good point

Ill have to have a shop check it out next time I get my clutch changed...which is probably gonna be soon

[hoindawall]

I'm actually having my trans serviced under warranty right now for this issue.

[neox.286]

lol, mines waaaaay out of warranty....both mile wise and modification wise...

[silvermsp]

Today I took it to the shop and they took the transmission apart it is the Throw Out Bearing

[neox.286]

good to know (thumb)

did they replace it? and did you notice that the issue was gone?

[silvermsp]

Still in the shop, since i have a aftermarket clutch "ACT" I had to order the part online.... we will see once on..

[neox.286]

keep us informed

it would be nice to fix this lol

[zoom 79gc]

clutch bearings are bad about this . you should have replaced it when you put in the new clutch just to be safe . But i guess we all learn new lessons
now and then!!!! about this !!!!!

[silvermsp]

They were replaced when new clutch was installed!!

[Jungeneine]

Let us all bear in mind (also I'm not sure if the MSP has the same tranny as the stock proteges)...that's a Ford transmission in there.

[turbolife]

Rattle? If so, throw-out/release bearing.

What did I win?! lol

Good to hear its getting fixed man!

[silvermsp]

What did I win?! lol

Good to hear its getting fixed man!

yeah thanks

[silvermsp]

Today I went to go pick up my car, When I got there they were just finishing up.. I turned the car on and STILL make Noise!!! So tomorrow they going to pull transmission off again and look inside...SUCKS (boom02)

[silvermsp]

Ok just got my car back from the shop they open up the transmission and there was a bearing cracked, It was replaced and it stop making the noise. Finally!!!

throw out bearing $35.00
transmission Bearing $26.00
Labor $550.00

[neox.286]

did they say which bearing it was specifically?

[Jake_isr]

Probably just a tranni drive bearing on the shaft. closest to 4th gear

[solo.]

I get that noise too, but warranty has been passed.
I'm at 114 000KM and warranty expired at 100 000KM.
I had my warranty REBUILT in March 2007, so it's only been 7 months, you think they screwed something up on purpose?

[Jake_isr]

You might just have a bearing. Check you tranni oil for scorching. Also you should have about 3 qts in their. I think some trannis may be leaking.

[dmention7]

Interesting, I've been getting a similar noise... kind of an intermittent rattling when the car is cold, and idling in neutral with the clutch out. I've also got a bit of clutch chatter, so I'm hoping it's just the throwout bearing and not something that requires cracking open the tranny.

Just finished installing a clutch/transmission in my festiva, so I'm all brushed up on that job! hehe....

[solo.]

How hard is changing the throwout bearing?
Or how much would the parts be?

Gonna check the oil tonight since the stealership filled it up for me.

[dmention7]

To change the throwout bearing, you have to drop the transmission from the engine. Since that's not a trivial job and the clutch is right there, you virtually always change both the clutch and throwout bearing at the same time. I think most clutch kits even come with the bearing.

[SleepyMSP]

^^^ most do, I would do the flywheel too, gotta save up to do mine...gonna be a tall order

[dmention7]

+1 to the flywheel. You can usually get the old one resurfaced by a machine shop for quite a bit less than buying a new one. But it would be a shame to spend all that work replacing the clutch, only to find that the flywheel is a bit off.