All Season Tires

[Igve2shtz]

Hey everybody.

I am sitting at around 10,000 miles on the stock tires, and looks like I need replacing within the next 5000.

I am looking into 4 all-season tires, mounted to stock wheels and would like some feedback. I am looking at

Falken ZE912 (225/45/18)
Goodyear Eagle F1 (225/45/18)
Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S (225/45/18)
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position (215/45/18)

I am leaning towards the Goodyear's or Bridgestone's, but the price of the Falkens has me intrigued. I am looking for all-around performance, but I want to make sure wet traction is not sacrficed, and also LONG treadlife.

Anyone use any of these tires? Any feedback would be appreciated. Also, when stepping up to a 225/45/18, any speedometer problems?

Thanks for any help.

[dc82]

I have the Pirellis on my MS6 and I like them.



Hey everybody.

I am sitting at around 10,000 miles on the stock tires, and looks like I need replacing within the next 5000.

I am looking into 4 all-season tires, mounted to stock wheels and would like some feedback. I am looking at

Falken ZE912 (225/45/18)
Goodyear Eagle F1 (225/45/18)
Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S (225/45/18)
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position (215/45/18)

I am leaning towards the Goodyear's or Bridgestone's, but the price of the Falkens has me intrigued. I am looking for all-around performance, but I want to make sure wet traction is not sacrficed, and also LONG treadlife.

Anyone use any of these tires? Any feedback would be appreciated. Also, when stepping up to a 225/45/18, any speedometer problems?

Thanks for any help.

[Coldspeed]

I would consider the Continental ContiExtremeContact, too. They're only $118 each at Tire Rack and scored higher than the Pirelli. I've seen numerous thumbs-up for them on the forums. Otherwise, go for the Bridgestones.

If you go to a 225/45, your speedometer will be slightly off. When the speedo shows 65, you will actually be going 65.89. The diameter is .35" larger.

[koes]

Igve2shtz, I have exactly the same "problem", but I'm going to replace my tires pretty soon. I'm considering, as all-season performance, just these:
225/45/18 GY Eagle F1 95Y
225/45/18 Toyo Proxes 4 95W
225/45/18 Falken Fk452 95Y
as they all have load index 93 or more. Continental's and Bridgestone's have 91 load with W speed index. My only concern is if this size 225/45/18 will cause rubbing or other issues. I will probably go with Toyo's or GY's, depends on the price, as they have pretty good ratings. I also found tire shop that gave me the same price as tirerack. If this size will not fit, I will go with Pirelli's PZero Nero M+S 215/45/18 - these are the only all-season tires I was able to find in factory size.

[jred321]

all season tires suck in all seasons, and i'd imagine an all season "performance" tire sucks almost as bad as a summer tire in the snow due to the tread pattern (though probably better due to compound on just cold days). i'd look instead into a longer wearing summer tire (and also don't forget to rotate). you can get good performance and decent wear in a summer tire. i'm running yokohama AVS ES100s which are relatively cheap and have no complaints and they show almost no wear after a full summer's use

[VermZ06]

I'd go Falken Ziex912...although if you check out the Ziex 512 they have a rim protector and they're actually M+S rated (thumb) but from previous experience you will likely only see 30,000 Miles with the 512 (rotated every 5,000M). The 912's I'm guessing will last a little longer since they're a new design. I just got a new set of 512s for my MS3...I had these for my MSP as well and yes they work well in the snow as long as you're not driving in a foot of it (which most of us would never do in the first place) Falken makes a good tire that is awesome in wet as well as cold conditions. The handling is still pretty good too.

[allen7347]

I have good success in the past with Continental All-Season tires.... and found them to give a softer ride than Goodyear Eagles. Maybe there is a sacrifice in performance, but my car is used mostly for commuting to work (58 miles each way).. and sometimes less bumpy is better. Does anyone else yearn for more comfort, or it is just me?

[3+5]

I always yearn for more comfort. Just not from my tires.

[tjb]

Just got the GY F1's installed yesterday. Not bad....I like them. I know I'll be giving up some handling, but I'm not a super aggressive driver anyways.
No rubbing and they handle great (took the car through some twisties) and are much quieter than the stock Bridgestones summers that came off. Haven't driven in rain yet, but the real test will be in Jan-Feb with a little snow around.

[iroc_cragg]

tjb so the 225/45/18s fit good with no rubbing, and only minor cornering differences

[tjb]

I'll be traveling some twisty back roads thru vermont today, so I'll push them!

No rubbing at all. So far I am pleased with the F1's. I was going to get the Bridgestone Pole Positions but decided on the GY's. $726.00 installed.

[koes]

tjb, keep me posted :) GY F1's are on my top 3 list :) I still have my stock Potenzas. I want to keep them as long as there is no snow out there :)

[tjb]

Still haven't had any rain to drive in, but I like the GY's. Handling isn't as razor sharp as it was with the stock Bridgestones but you can still scare people in the passenger seat! Much quieter too.

So far I am very pleased!

[SVOGT]

Ecsta ASX (ASX for All-Season Xtreme) 235/40ZR18 on RX8 wheels work OK but they definitely don't handle like the stock Bridgestones. This winter will tell as the stockers really sucked in the snow............

[hardlight]

I went ahead and got the stock size Pirelli P Zero Nero AS from my Corvette Forum guy at Tire Rack. The narrorw size in the snow is better, and with the 7 in stock rim you are limited. You don't want to do a 225-40 because its pinching the bead and will lead to possible problems. Besides, from the way my car performed on the stock tires Autocrossing this summer you can really do well. My grandson was in the top 10 in the index team challenge event and he was on my skinny street tires. So far so good. We get our first snow tonight.

[DuBy]

lol

[ZUZOOM]

I have had the P Zero Neros for 2 weeks and had a few good rains. So far so good. Originally had the Potenzas and they were awesome, but short lived. 21K max... with the Zero's the cabin Road Noise is alot less and much enjoyed. With a little squeal at times handeling is still great...

[Doubleawill]

Pzero nero m+s

[that_guy]

Kumho doesn't make a tire in these sizes? :(

If they do, I'd go Kumho.

[the gamper]

I bought the P-Zero Neros m+s a few weeks ago to replace my stock tires on stock rims. Last weekend we had our first winter storm here in Michigan, a good 2 inches of snow in just a few hours. Covered the roads, lots of slop/ruts, an Accord and F150 in the ditch on the way home. You get the idea.

The Pirellis performed very well in my opinion. Take off was not problem, good traction, braking seemed to do pretty well. I am very pleased with snow/ice performance of these Pirellis. Last winter I drove with the stock Bridgestones, it was suicide, probably the slowest car on the road for the 3 or 4 times I had to drive in snow covered roads. I felt pretty confident with these new tires.

On the other hand, you are definitely giving up at least a little dry weather performance with the Pirellis over the Stock Bridgestones. It seems pretty apparent when accelerating through a corner. If you can swing it, a dedicated snow tire is the way to go with a changeover come spring. But the Pirelli tire is a pretty good compromise at a very reasonable price.

Hope that helps.

[gooniac33]

Here I go again on the Khumo Falken train. I have had both and loved them. I had the ZE-512's on my hopped up civic back in the day. They had great grip and the rain performace was awesome. I had to force my self to slow down because it never felt like it was raining. The ZE-912's are a new version of them and supposed to be even better with a little more durability.

I have been through Khumos as well with no problems at all. I have the Ecsta SPT on my Speed6 and love them! They grip so much better than the OEM tires. The only downside is that they will not last as long as the Bridgestones. But that doesn't matter to me. If you live in a cold climate the Yokohama AVS ES 100 are great tires too. I had those on my Integra and RX-8 and liked those too. They are more all season type tires....But if you want the best bang for the buck go Khumo. Falkens cost just a little more with similar performance. Just my 2 cents...

[jred321]

If you live in a cold climate the Yokohama AVS ES 100 are great tires too. I had those on my Integra and RX-8 and liked those too. They are more all season type tires.
the ES100 isn't an all season tire and isn't designed for the cold at all. tirerack lists it as an Ultra High Performance Summer tire. in the description they put


Like all summer tires, the AVS ES100 is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

it's what i run for my summer tire. the tread pattern is more well suited for a daily driver than many performance tires because it has plenty of channels for water instead of big chunks of rubber but definitely isn't for the cold

[Awong124]

I have the stock Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S on my 6s and they are fantastic. It would be very hard to beat this kind of performance with an all season tire.