Installed CPE Engine Management Unit. Dyno graph inside.

[joshj84]

** Update 9 / 18 / 07 ** Well went and finished getting tuned today took about 2 hours as we were still messing with air fuel a little trying to smooth it out more towards the last hour of tuning.

I have 17 runs of maps today lol so if anyone wants some datalogs or dyno charts let me know!
Just a little tidbit btw

I dynoed a month ago at 246HP and 316TQ I put the bypass on today and did a baseline dyno and did 266HP and forget the torque.. anyways TurboXS downpipe and race pipe added 20 horsepower.. just figured it was interesting ;)

Also did another dyno with bypass off after that and CPE Standback added 40HP after all tuning was done. Not bad for the price of an exhaust!



So I just installed it and everything was amazing. Instructions were above amazing and didn't take more than a couple hours. My only issue that I'm experiencing at the moment which I don't know why and I'll be calling Jordon to ask about this tomorrow. But While in 3rd gear if I shift early in 1st and 2nd then floor it in 3rd gear I experience I'm assuming fuel cut around 4k-4.5krpms. Never experienced fuel cut in this car before so not sure what it's like but the car literally lurches forward and definitely doesn't feel good... Anyones idea on if its fuel cut or something else would definitely be helpful. Again I'll be calling Jordon tomorrow to figure it out.. Also start sometimes seems to be difficult sometimes as in takes longer to start only a couple times so far.


All I have to say is the whole CPE team is awesome, I know its been said before but they are simply amazing. All my issues are fixed now that I had (due to elevation) which caused the car to run leaner than it should've. I'll include a few pics of the install and such don't mind me haven't shaved in a few days :P

Overall if your going to spend your money on any sort of product for your mazda go with CPE the quality and customer service is priceless compared to some of the other companies out there.

Definitely give CPE 10/10 on every scale.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q244/joshj84/overlapdyno.jpg

This is an overlap from the same day the blue is very first run with bypass plug in. (so no engine mangement persay)

The red is after 17 dyno runs and finished product you can see the gains.



MODS - CPE Engine Management, ETS TMIC, HKS BOV, TurboXS Downpipe - race pipe, MS CAI and SU Engine mount.

[rodney]

thats freakin sick numbers, when you takin it to the track

[daonly1around]

(idhitit) i need an MS3... badly

[ccann26]

this is at the wheels ? (drinks)

i don't imagine this is pnp ?

[CaSHMeRe]

this is at the wheels ? (drinks)

i don't imagine this is pnp ?

CP-E PNP comes out in November **fingerscrossed**

the one that josh is using is the solder in version 1.

the pnp will be version 2

[joshj84]

yep this is too the wheels.

this is at the wheels ? (drinks)

i don't imagine this is pnp ?

[joshj84]

Hopefully around the 26th.

BTW I'm in Denver just an FTW so Elevation is 5600 feet here.

thats freakin sick numbers, when you takin it to the track

[Derek88]

I am totally impressed with those numbers. Especially the torque!

Simply, awesome.

[ccann26]

Take it to the track

Hell Yeah !!! 17 seconds @155mph (bowdown)

[joshj84]

17 seconds...? lol....

[jhowey]

after he gets done spinning the tires in place for 6 seconds, and the car hooks up.

[jhowey]

My computer is not letting me see the numbers, what is the whp now josh?

[knowledge007]

I am going to try and Dyno this Sat. Don't think I will be doing any tuning as of yet as tuning cost some big bucks. Josh would love to see your maps if you don't mind?

By the way, are the racipes and your down pipe 3"?

[joshj84]

Jhowey

305Whp and 368Tq.

My computer is not letting me see the numbers, what is the whp now josh?

[jhowey]

Thank you and very nice

[MS3TR]

Amazing, how difficult is it to hook up in the gears 1-3? I will definitely be purchasing the PnP model. How are u getting around the Fuel Cut-off? I swear I have felt it as well, 2 or 3 times, and all I have is the MS cai and TXS Hybrid BOV.

[joshj84]

Actually 1-2nd is really torque limited compared to the other gears but in a good way I suppose... I can lock 1st and 2nd no problem except maybe a slight chirp sometimes.

[Albone]

I wounder what Turbo XS was smoking when they saw 50Tq/40whp gain with the Downpipe/racepipe combo. That is far from your 20whp you saw on the dyno.

[SwampAss]

I live pretty close to CPE. I might sneak up there and meet these guys in person. I haven't spent dime one with them and they treat me like a $1000 customer...because chances are, I'll end up being one. (upyours)

[www.cp-e.com]

I live pretty close to CPE. I might sneak up there and meet these guys in person. I haven't spent dime one with them and they treat me like a $1000 customer...because chances are, I'll end up being one. (upyours)


Well, whether you intend to spend money with us or not, you're more then welcome to stop by!! We'd love to show you exactly how we're so different from our competition. (wiggle)

And if you have any questions/comments that you've been dying to get off of your chest, be sure to bring those too :D

[SwampAss]

I intend to. Josh has been affable, courteous, and never seems bothered with my 8 questions so far.

[staples187]

I've experienced fuel cut once in 3rd gear with my current set up. It feels like you're bogging and it takes forever for the tachometer to reach peak RPMs. If you let go of the pedal and give it a second to recooperate, you're fine. I'm probably just going to run the default map for the conservative tune that way I don't over do it especially on my stock clutch. I too live close to CPE and wouldn't mind taking a look around the shop to see how these guys perform their miracles. :)

[Demi]

Well, whether you intend to spend money with us or not, you're more then welcome to stop by!! We'd love to show you exactly how we're so different from our competition. (wiggle)

And if you have any questions/comments that you've been dying to get off of your chest, be sure to bring those too :D

This post right here has cemented my intention of buying from you guys. Awesome stuff. Customer service is paramount to me and you guys seem to have it in spades. Keep up the good work and expect a lump of cash from me as soon as i can scrape it together.

[Finkle]

hey fellas, ive got my ems sitting here and a quick question i had is:
whats an ideal a/f ratio for our cars to be running?

[tru-boost]

between 11.8 - 12.0

[Haltech]

between 11.8 - 12.0

Ugh maybe on methanol... on the street 11.2

[Finkle]

K, so where did u guys mount the cp-e ems...and how?
it has no clips to mount or do anythign with
use double sided tape?, that'll never hold tho
any ideas?
thx

[knowledge007]

I mounted mine on the side wall inside of the battery box. The wall that faces away from the windsheild using double sided foam tape which will hold perfectly. Ran the harness underneath the the wall where there is a hole which is running the positive battery cable.

[Finkle]

i mounted on the outside of the battery box for the time being, just wanted to get it installed and running
I LOVE it so far, just at the base 15psi, if i stomp the gas in 2nd i can break the tires loose, now for some tuning and dyno runs to see what im making
ill have some pics up 2morrow

[udontknowjack]

knowledge007 did u ever get that dyno and tune urself?

[rodney]

yea i wanna see some pics of some installs

[mdl247]

not to tj or anything but what is the diff between cpe standback and the xede?
also what is the benefits for each unit, i live in hawaii and thinking of which ems to go with. only got 1 dyno here its 2 hours away from me and i have no idea if that guy is a good tuner or not. i have some knowledge of tuning since i still have my msp with a mpi tuner

[AutoXRacer]

Search for a member called Nutari; he is from your neck of the woods...though I don't know what island he is on...

Basically both systems are comparable from what I've read. None of them have PnP (plug n play) yet...though Xede states it will become available on 12/1/2007. There is a battle between both systems...

I am personally going with Xede since (hopefully) they will have PnP first...
And the Xede system has been out for a while...in Australia...

Read this lengthy thread: Who wants dibs on the XEDE PnP System? (http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123669057&page=12)

[Nutari]

not to tj or anything but what is the diff between cpe standback and the xede?
also what is the benefits for each unit, i live in hawaii and thinking of which ems to go with. only got 1 dyno here its 2 hours away from me and i have no idea if that guy is a good tuner or not. i have some knowledge of tuning since i still have my msp with a mpi tuner

yeah man. Give me a call and we can talk cars.

I have just about every mod possible for this car cept the bigger turbo.

I just finished putting in my front hotchkiss sway. damn that was a pain.

(yawn)

[knowledge007]

knowledge007 did u ever get that dyno and tune urself?

No ran into some problems...pm me if you would like to know but don't really want to disclose publicly.

[Powerslave]

** Update 9 / 18 / 07 ** Well went and finished getting tuned today took about 2 hours as we were still messing with air fuel a little trying to smooth it out more towards the last hour of tuning.

I have 17 runs of maps today lol so if anyone wants some datalogs or dyno charts let me know! Joshj84@gmail.com

Just a little tidbit btw

I dynoed a month ago at 246HP and 316TQ I put the bypass on today and did a baseline dyno and did 266HP and forget the torque.. anyways TurboXS downpipe and race pipe added 20 horsepower.. just figured it was interesting ;)

Also did another dyno with bypass off after that and CPE Standback added 40HP after all tuning was done. Not bad for the price of an exhaust!



So I just installed it and everything was amazing. Instructions were above amazing and didn't take more than a couple hours. My only issue that I'm experiencing at the moment which I don't know why and I'll be calling Jordon to ask about this tomorrow. But While in 3rd gear if I shift early in 1st and 2nd then floor it in 3rd gear I experience I'm assuming fuel cut around 4k-4.5krpms. Never experienced fuel cut in this car before so not sure what it's like but the car literally lurches forward and definitely doesn't feel good... Anyones idea on if its fuel cut or something else would definitely be helpful. Again I'll be calling Jordon tomorrow to figure it out.. Also start sometimes seems to be difficult sometimes as in takes longer to start only a couple times so far.


All I have to say is the whole CPE team is awesome, I know its been said before but they are simply amazing. All my issues are fixed now that I had (due to elevation) which caused the car to run leaner than it should've. I'll include a few pics of the install and such don't mind me haven't shaved in a few days :P

Overall if your going to spend your money on any sort of product for your mazda go with CPE the quality and customer service is priceless compared to some of the other companies out there.

Definitely give CPE 10/10 on every scale.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q244/joshj84/overlapdyno.jpg

This is an overlap from the same day the blue is very first run with bypass plug in. (so no engine mangement persay)

The red is after 17 dyno runs and finished product you can see the gains.



MODS - CPE Engine Management, ETS TMIC, HKS BOV, TurboXS Downpipe - race pipe, MS CAI and SU Engine mount.

hey i talked to Jorden he said you really don't benifit from going 19psi becuase the turbo is not effeciant and you can quickly ruin the turbo, he said you can get the same or more from 17 psi with a good tune. Just given you what heard from Jorden

[staples187]

hey i talked to Jorden he said you really don't benifit from going 19psi becuase the turbo is not effeciant and you can quickly ruin the turbo, he said you can get the same or more from 17 psi with a good tune. Just given you what heard from Jorden

Totally understandable considering how much heat it's going to create because it's working extra hard. I would just leave it at 17psi and tune the a/f ratios.

[bmman93]

? Then Just A Thought! My Buddy Had A 1.8t Vw Wit A Ko4 And It Made 23 Psi All Day Long And Didnt Ruin It. It Was The Softwear It Had! Just Wondering Whats The Difference Its The Same Turbo!

[Fritch]

? Then Just A Thought! My Buddy Had A 1.8t Vw Wit A Ko4 And It Made 23 Psi All Day Long And Didnt Ruin It. It Was The Softwear It Had! Just Wondering Whats The Difference Its The Same Turbo!

it is NOT the same turbo, just same turbo family

NOT THE SAME