Whatcha think about these tires?

[whitey4311]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+T%2FA+KDW+2&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=245YR8GFTAKDW2&fromCompare1=yes&place=12

Less cost then stock and 2x the tread life. Seem to have good reviews and apparently they were the stock tires on the SRT-4's so they should hook up well with a FWD car that has power.

2 closest size options are 215/40/18 or 225/45/18 so which shoult I get?

I always loved BFG tires on my trucks they were the best as far as performance and wear so I hope this applies to their street tires.

[clos561]

thsoe are nice but these are cheaper and have more tread life...this is what im going to buy when the time comes

[tsunami]

those are decent tires but are some of the heaviest out there for that size iirc they come in at a portly 25+ lbs....

[nonopr]

They are available all year at cotsco for 126.00

[clos561]

i was checkin some tires at costco and they got good deal on lfietime rotation and street hazard

[whitey4311]

They are available all year at cotsco for 126.00
Actually they are more then tirerack.com for that size costco has them at $188

Only thing I messed up and the options for the tire are only 215-40-18 or 225-40-18. Both are 40 at the side wall so what should I do?

As far as weight the 215-40-18 are 23lbs and I think that is lighter then stock. The 225 series are 28lbs so thats a bit heavier and may factored in my choice.

[SwampAss]

235/40 has almost the exact same diameter as a stock 215/45.

You can also get them for $100

[whitey4311]

235/40 has almost the exact same diameter as a stock 215/45.

You can also get them for $100

Get what at $100?

[SwampAss]

235/40 series tires.

[silversurfer3]

there pretty good the came stock on my srt-4 but i like my sumitos HRTZII better

[guy_incognito]

Can you fit 235/40 on the MS3 stock rims? Tire guides seem to indicate they are meant for rims 8"-9.5" in width.

[whitey4311]

there pretty good the came stock on my srt-4 but i like my sumitos HRTZII better

Hook me up with a link to those.

I think the BFG would be a good tire since its tread wear is more then double that of the Potenza at 300AA. Also they are $25 less a tire and if they do last 2x as long that would be money well spent.

How many miles did you pull out of the BFG on your SRT-4?

Also what about a 40 series tire is that ok to run a 225/40/18 or a 215/40/18 tire on our cars?

[MS3-oholic]

Be carefull, treadwear ratings are only relative to tires of the same brand. There is no standardization for this rating between manufactures. That 300 treadwear rating on the BFGs doesn't mean twice the life, it could wear twice as fast as the Potenza's 140. That 300 rating will only last twice as long when comparing to another BFG tire with a 150 rating.

[SwampAss]

Can you fit 235/40 on the MS3 stock rims? Tire guides seem to indicate they are meant for rims 8"-9.5" in width.

I forgot the MS3 wheels were not that wide. Sorry. I think 225/40s would be ok.

[whitey4311]

So there is no down side to running a slightly more narrow side wall at 40 from 45 stock?

Also would it be better to get the 215 series since they are lighter and atleast the stock width?

I really think when the time comes I will give these BFG tires a go since they seem to be a good option and if they came on the SRT-4 which was another FWD monster then they have to be a good choice.

[94jedi]

good tires but get ready for nasty road noise with those.

[dichiee]

good tires but get ready for nasty road noise with those.

I can you tires for $250 on all 4 but they are Linglongs brands. I used it on my S4 when my gforce retired. I know the brand is not so popular but I think they're same as yokos or others. These are china tires.

[Creepin]

I've got aftermarket wheels (TSW Mondello) and they are 18x8 with a 40mm offset... I can't run the 225's cuz they touch the rear finders... So I'd say do a 215/40/18 for tires...

[BSTD3]

Are they Scottish? If not its crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrip! :)

[dichiee]

good tires but get ready for nasty road noise with those.

I second that... lots of road noise on those tires

[whitey4311]

I second that... lots of road noise on those tires

On the BFG tires?

[dichiee]

On the BFG tires?

Yup

[Craighjr]

Well I sort of have the feeling that you should not get a tire cheaper than stock. But Mazda literally put the best tires you can buy on the car. (y speed rating is in excess of a z at 186mph). If you spent a few bucks you could probably get a very good ultra high performance tire in the stock size. The problem is what performance are you looking for All season, m+s rated, competition? I guess I never forsee myself exceeding the 149mph of a z tire so I will consider the azenis 615's as my replacements. As for the other tires suggested their cheap junk sumihatos, lingloos or what ever don't waste your time with them. The BFG's are good tires if that what you want do it up. The 235/40/18 should be 20mm wider than stock and nearly the exact same height in the sidewall. Google "miata tire size calculator" and have some fun finding the right size for you.

[SwampAss]

Are they Scottish? If not its crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrip! :)

We've got three sizes. Wee, not so wee, and fricken HUGE.

[whitey4311]

Well I sort of have the feeling that you should not get a tire cheaper than stock. But Mazda literally put the best tires you can buy on the car. (y speed rating is in excess of a z at 186mph). If you spent a few bucks you could probably get a very good ultra high performance tire in the stock size. The problem is what performance are you looking for All season, m+s rated, competition? I guess I never forsee myself exceeding the 149mph of a z tire so I will consider the azenis 615's as my replacements. As for the other tires suggested their cheap junk sumihatos, lingloos or what ever don't waste your time with them. The BFG's are good tires if that what you want do it up. The 235/40/18 should be 20mm wider than stock and nearly the exact same height in the sidewall. Google "miata tire size calculator" and have some fun finding the right size for you.

Yeah I think I will do the BFG's since they are bit cheaper and I am guessing they will last longer even though it has been mentioned that tread wear inst a uniform number between MFR's. I live in California where its always summer so no need for anything other then Ultra High Performance, yeahhh!

I wont put a piss poor tire on the car just cause its a daily driver. You have 2 options the way I see it:

1) shitty tire never can push the car hard and wont allow the car to handle like it could

2) good tires that wear fast if you push it like the car can

Point being that we bought a fast car that should handle well and I want to maintain this. When I want to push it I should be able to but I dont see myself ever putting a $100 tire on it and calling it a good tire for the money when you are loosing performance.

Cant tell you how many times I have saved a dollar on a cheaper option only to have wasted that money to have to buy what I should have in the first place. To me a $400 set of khumos isnt a savings if they are shit compared to a $700-800 set of good quality tires.

I guess I wont know until I try them but I dont see the BFG being a bad choice either way.

I think I will go with the 225/40/18 to get a bit more rubber on the road however I will have to really watch for pot holes more then I do now. They will weigh more then stock by a couple pounds but no biggie more traction should offset that.

[Rey-ATCC]

This site might help a bit.
http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp

This will include if you planning to get difrenet wheels. I do agree that those BF are heavy for the 3 or the MS3. You will feel most bumps with them. Not because the tire it self but because the weight. I currently have the TOYO PROXES4 215/40/ZR18 that whaight about the same and I am currently going through that. Dam all season tires

[whitey4311]

The 215 series are 2lbs lighter then stock and the 225 I think were like 1-2;bs heavier so I dont see why people say they are heavy.

You have 20 series side wall on the Toyos?

[Rey-ATCC]

OOPs Typo!! 40s

[whitey4311]

So which size should I get the 225 or the 215?

I sweat tirerack changes by they day because now they are cheaper and have other sizes. Now I can get 215/40/18 or 225/45/18 and the difference is only 2lbs. VS stock the 215 are 1 lb lighter and the 225 are 1 lb heavier.

I like thre reviews I am seeing on the BFG's so I am pretty sure they will be my choice. They look cool too, lol.

[voiceKoil]

Do it.... I personally dont like how they look, and I think Ive also heard their noisy, which will bug the shit out of you... My buddies dad has them on his older corvette and he seems to be happy with the grip. Ive mostly seen these on trucks though for whatever reason, I think mostly looks because I dont see any suburbans drag racing....

[voiceKoil]

So which size should I get the 225 or the 215?

I sweat tirerack changes by they day because now they are cheaper and have other sizes. Now I can get 215/40/18 or 225/45/18 and the difference is only 2lbs. VS stock the 215 are 1 lb lighter and the 225 are 1 lb heavier.

I like thre reviews I am seeing on the BFG's so I am pretty sure they will be my choice. They look cool too, lol.


The rule of thumb is to sacrifice weight for width, the rotational mass is spread out, AND you have more area to grip so I would not even think of getting 215s, but you know Im crazy ;)

[whitey4311]

Sounds good man I think the 225 will be a good choice and I can maintain the side wall width to protect from pot holes ect. Being that the cost is close to the same and only 1lb more then stock I dont see 225 being a bad choice.

According to the specs they fit a 7.5-9 inch rim I think it said, either way it will fit the stock wheel.

I read about the noise but have heard about this on the other truck tires I had and I didnt notice it. I just really was impressed with BFG on my truck for their A/T tires more then any other so I hope this tire is just as good and now tire rack has them $25 cheaper then when I started this thread.

Just doing my HW since I have atleast 10k more miles to go on stockers I think.

[mcspeed]

Do it.... I personally dont like how they look, and I think Ive also heard their noisy, which will bug the shit out of you... My buddies dad has them on his older corvette and he seems to be happy with the grip. Ive mostly seen these on trucks though for whatever reason, I think mostly looks because I dont see any suburbans drag racing....

I have 285, 20" BFG Gforce tires on a 350Z .....way quiet....not sure of the weight. Stick nice too.

[Rey-ATCC]

with a 350z u dont need to worry about weight, moreless need to worry about griping, LOL