Gt28rs ???

[fatti03msp]

Hay guys im getting ready to replace my stock GT25 with the GT28RS, i have never changed a turbo before, this is my first turbo car. But i know its just a swap so i will not be hard at all. But i was wondering what i will need if anything. Like Gaskets, new studs, or anything else you guys can think of im also putting in a new fuel pump so anything i will need to do that let me know as well

Thanks,
Fatti03MSP

[crashkelly]

Hay guys im getting ready to replace my stock GT25 with the GT28RS, i have never changed a turbo before, this is my first turbo car. But i know its just a swap so i will not be hard at all. But i was wondering what i will need if anything. Like Gaskets, new studs, or anything else you guys can think of im also putting in a new fuel pump so anything i will need to do that let me know as well

Thanks,
Fatti03MSP

do you have forged rods and pistons?

You will need new studs to replace all the old studs...they will probably snap off at the head(so you will also need the tools to get the broken stud out of the hole)

[fatti03msp]

no i dont have the forged rods and pistons yet, so im going to stick to 9psi and can you get the studs from an auto store or do you have to get them from SU.

[shane02pro5]

9psi is pretty high for the gt28rs without fuel management.

[crashkelly]

no i dont have the forged rods and pistons yet, so im going to stick to 9psi and can you get the studs from an auto store or do you have to get them from SU.

they might be hard to find. I would pm Bagman1 and see what they cost (or start a thread in his section of the forum)

Im not too sure about this, but i think the bigger turbo might bring the breaking point for the engine down...meaning that 9psi on the gt28 is stronger than 9 psi on the t25...so you might want to be careful with that or talk to some of the members who have done the swap.

[crashkelly]

9psi is pretty high for the gt28rs without fuel management.

yeah that is also true

[fatti03msp]

i have the SplitSecond Fuel management system, i installed last friday and the AEM wideband, plus the Exedy stage 1 clutch, fidanza lightwieght flywheel, from motor mount, fuel pump, corksport S-pipe, and some other things. I have the clutch, flywheel and AFC in right know

[ChopstickHero]

i believe you have to clock the GT28RS so that it is oriented in the right position. do some searches on here, there are some members running with the disco potato.

[shane02pro5]

I am at 12psi on my very slightly smaller IHI VF22 turbo with a J&S Safeguard and Haltech. Just lookin out for ya! Definately needs to be re-tuned after install.

[fatti03msp]

its really going to need re-tuned after this weekend.
But what do you mean clock the turbo, this is all new to me.

[crashkelly]

its really going to need re-tuned after this weekend.
But what do you mean clock the turbo, this is all new to me.

he means you might have to rotate its position.

[crashkelly]

PS. where is SpringDale PA?...Im also from PA

[fatti03msp]

right by the pittsburgh mills its accually called harwick im right at the top of pillow ave. (not to sure if you know where that is)


EDIT: i thought you said where in sprindale, but you said where is springdale.

Its like 15-20 min. north of pittsburght right by the pa turnpike, Monroeville area

[crashkelly]

right by the pittsburgh mills its accually called harwick im right at the top of pillow ave. (not to sure if you know where that is)


EDIT: i thought you said where in sprindale, but you said where is springdale.

Its like 15-20 min. north of pittsburght right by the pa turnpike, Monroeville area

Oh ok, Im actually in the Philly area but my little bor goes to grad school at Duquenese so I am somewhat familiar with the pittsburg area. Ha Monroeville is where the hospital in that show scrubs is supposed to be!

[fatti03msp]

really lol never knew that. well next time you come visit your brother you should bring your car so i can check it out. Everyone is from east side of PA i think i might be the only MSP in the western PA lol cause i never see them and havent found anyone that lives in this area

[crashkelly]

really lol never knew that. well next time you come visit your brother you should bring your car so i can check it out.

well he is graduating pretty soon so I will probably only be making one more trip out there in the near future, but when I do I'll definately try to let you know so we can check out each others MSPs. Mine will have some forged parts in it and a Meth/water injection kit by that time!

[fatti03msp]

nice, so i got the studs is that all i will need, im not to sure what clocking the turbo is.

[fatti03msp]

so i talked to ken and he said that i have to use the WasteGate(or maybe he said just the acuator cant remember) from my stock turbo and put it on my GT28RS has anyone tried to keep Wastegate from teh GT28RS

[terbow]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114003

post 15. thats what i did. (this post refers to using the RS can)

the stock bracket doesnt just bolt on it has to be modified. dont forget the rs can is 10psi so u cant go lower.

[fatti03msp]

o, well im glad you said that cause im going to run 9 since i have stock internals

[terbow]

no prob. if u have any questions feel free to pm me

[fatti03msp]

k thx, hopefully it goes smoothly.

[fatti03msp]

What is the break in process to a new turbo?? this is my first new turbo.

[dirtysouth_msp]

Dude, you are going to need all the associated gaskets and seals, a different intake (or modify yours, it needs to be 3" in order to mate with the turbo inlet), you'll need to fabricate a small bracket to make the WGA work, you will need slim cooling fans (GT28rs won't fit with the factory fans), you'll probaly need bigger or extra injector(s) and it will definitely need to be tuned. After all of that, you may end up needing a new engine after running it for awhile. Your stock internals are weak. This is not really just a "pop & swap" project. Please do a lot of research before attempting this!

[terbow]

What is the break in process to a new turbo?? this is my first new turbo.

no break in technically. u can run oil through it before u put it on the car so its prelubed. but thats about it really.

[fatti03msp]

Lol im almost dont with it but thx for the tips


Dude, you are going to need all the associated gaskets and seals, a different intake (or modify yours, it needs to be 3" in order to mate with the turbo inlet), you'll need to fabricate a small bracket to make the WGA work, you will need slim cooling fans (GT28rs won't fit with the factory fans), you'll probaly need bigger or extra injector(s) and it will definitely need to be tuned. After all of that, you may end up needing a new engine after running it for awhile. Your stock internals are weak. This is not really just a "pop & swap" project. Please do a lot of research before attempting this!

Ok thx

no break in technically. u can run oil through it before u put it on the car so its prelubed. but thats about it really.

[shane02pro5]

Re-phrased "Absolutely must be primed before cranking!!"

[dirtysouth_msp]

Lol im almost dont with it but thx for the tips



Ok thx

"Lol" OK...

This is what the msp is working with rod/piston wise. I've seen them let go at less than 10psi from the stock turbo, however that is not always the case. Good luck to you.

[fatti03msp]

thx man, thats y keeping the boost at like 5 for daily driving and 9 for when i go to the track.


"Lol" OK...

This is what the msp is working with rod/piston wise. I've seen them let go at less than 10psi from the stock turbo, however that is not always the case. Good luck to you.

[terbow]

Re-phrased "Absolutely must be primed before cranking!!"

i didnt prime mine and it worked fine. but we have oil in our lines anyhow, i agree on a new turbo setup though. im not disagreeing with it needing to be done, just a fYI

[fatti03msp]

finally got the SOB done last night, she was pulling hard as hell, cant wait to get it a good tune and get her to the dyno.

Thanks for your help guys.

[2.0t03speed]

finally got the SOB done last night, she was pulling hard as hell, cant wait to get it a good tune and get her to the dyno.

Thanks for your help guys.


good luck let me know how it works out for you me personally my car is my dd so i wont put a 28rs in till i forge it

[fatti03msp]

Mine is my DD right know to, but my aunt has a cavaqueer that needs a hood, fendor and headlight so im going to try and snag that off of her and fix.

[2.0t03speed]

yea i dont have any backup car so im kind of takin it easy on my car

[fatti03msp]

well since you are taking it easy you dont need your Perrin FMIC want trade your FMIC for my HiBoost FMIC lol.

[2.0t03speed]

lol i dont have a perrin fmic my kit is all custom and nah i like my fmic better =)

[fatti03msp]

really i saw your post with your car and a P5 yesterday and someone said somethign about your perrin FMIC i was confused cause i thought the Perrin was wider but i didnt look at your pic that well. well i like and i want a bigger FMIC lol.

[2.0t03speed]

really i saw your post with your car and a P5 yesterday and someone said somethign about your perrin FMIC i was confused cause i thought the Perrin was wider but i didnt look at your pic that well. well i like and i want a bigger FMIC lol.


no i have a perrin exhaust my fmic is custom with a greddy core i think i cant remeber

[2.0t03speed]

its pretty big tho takes up almost all of the lower grill i love it

[fatti03msp]

thats sweet, i wish the HiBoost IC was bigger but it does its job

[wicked]

thats sweet, i wish the HiBoost IC was bigger but it does its job


hey i just gotta say,congrats on joining the GT28RS club,and nice car........but damn your taillights are ugly as hell,and ruin the look of the entire car.

[fatti03msp]

hey i just gotta say,congrats on joining the GT28RS club,and nice car........but damn your taillights are ugly as hell,and ruin the look of the entire car.

thanks and i like the taillights besides the the fact that they get moisture in them so thats y im going to nighthshade them.