will 205/50R16 fit on stock P5 rims?

[P5inMD]

I've had to change my tires like 5 times since november. punctures and all. and now I can't find the Kumho Ecsta SPTs anymore. and the only sizes for the other Ecstas are 205/50R16 and I need to know if they'll fit properly before I buy them. thanks

[njaremka]

they will fit, but won't handle as good as 195/50's - the 205's are a little wider, and a little taller

[P5inMD]

I got the 205/45R16 Kumho Ecsta SPTs <---- I love the SPTs! so I'm going to slap the 205s on the back and bump the 195s to the front. I hope it won't be much of a difference. and I got the 45 for the height/width ratio. they guy on the phone reminded me of that.

SPT ftw!

[njaremka]

205/45 is going to be slightly smaller in diameter than the 195/50's, just so you know - i wouldn't put "staggered" sizes on my car

[gottacatchup]

also if i was going to stagger tire sizes i wouldn't put the smaller tires on the front of a FF car

[WRCprotege]

just DONT put one of each on the front!!!!! this will wear out the diff.. and i run 215-45-16 azenis on the stockers, ther shoehorned on, but lots of yummy grip for the twisties....

[P5inMD]

so what you're saying is to put the 205/45s on the front? and the 195/50s on back? I'll get more 205/45s later when I can afford them and I feel as tho I like the way they ride. or if the 195/50s ever come back, I'll get those. I paid $70 for the 195 at the beginning of the year. now the 205s cost me $90 (I didn't expect that). and I may jus get a wheel and tire package for around $800 come september (hopefully)

[JoshP5]

MD, huh? Whereabouts?

[Magus]

I have 205/50 R16 BFgoodrich Traction T/A. I figure I have no problem with the thickness of the side wall because they are steel reinforced. They are AA traction rated. You would have no problem having them fit on stock rims. I figure 215/45 R16 may just fit, but you may need different rims. Also if the 215/45 R16 tires just fit I would imagine lowering the car would cause issues.

Magus

[P5inMD]

MD, huh? Whereabouts?

I'm in Rockville occassionally. I'm anywhere between VA, MO County, to PG County, to Baltimore, MD. I'm a stock blue P5.

[JoshP5]

There are tons of stock blue P5s around here so I can't ID you. But if you see me, feel free to say hi! :)

[mazdaddy]

I've had 205/50/16's on the car for 30k now (Fuzion ZRI) & have had no issues at all. Haven't noticed any change in hadling & it actually improved my speedo accuracy....(drive)

[preludejtstyle]

I had 205/50/16's on my honda prelude (stock size). You guys are agreeing that those tires will fit on my stock MP5 polished rims?

[5PADZAM]

Yes, 205/50/16's fit fine on stock P5 rims. That is the size I have on my stock polished P5 rims.

[JoshP5]

Yep.

[kura808]

hehe i'm running it right now wit my kumho ecsta asxs xD just like how it says in my signature xP it makes the ride slightly less rough from what i learned but as other people said, it will have a slight handling change.

[MonkeyBone]

1st:205/50 will fit on stock rims
205/45 too (obvious)
215/45....height is good but...minimal rim width with 215 is 7 inches and stock rims are 6 inches...that is what is recommanded by the tire manufacturer

2nd:205/50 will be taller so: more roll? maybe or maybe not because if your tire have a stiffer sidewall it will be ok but if you got like wal mart tires...stay with 195/50

3rd:205/45 will be smaller in height so bumpier ride but smaller sidewall = less roll (except if you got wal mart tires again)

4th:215/45 damn it will be large on stock rims... try to get some 16x7 inch rims to do that

5th:I'm gonna buy 205/50VR16 tires tomorrow or friday and they will be some

Dunlop Direzza DZ101
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+DZ101

OR

Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+GS-D3

Dunlop is cheaper but grab more on dry
Goodyear is $$$$ but grab more on wet

like we say...PILE OU FACE?(enguard)

[Mr.Ames]

this is what a 205/50/16 looks like. doesnt handle nearly as well as my 215/40/17's

[Magus]

Of course it doesn't, it's not as wide.

Magus

[Mr.Ames]

taller sidewall too, but my 17's are all bent to hell (pissed) so i have to use my winter tires til i get new summer rims

[WRCprotege]

215-45-16 azenis.. they fit, they work, hella grip.. thats all thats been on her.. oh and the car is low.. heres a pic form last year before a deals gap trip.. NO rubbing at all, though i did roll the fenders in the rear to be safe.

[preludejtstyle]

gracias.

[Magus]

WRCprotege,
What rims are thoughs? I thought tires that wide would not work on stock 16" rims? Also what springs do you have on your car?

Magus

[mountjonas]

^^^stock 02.5 and up wheels.

[WRCprotege]

stock 03 wheels, they fit, hard to get on but they fit..and Skunk2 coilovers, the rear is 3-1/5 4 inches lower and the front 2 1/5 or so..and the tires work fine, the edges are a little rounded but thers massive grip and a smooth breakway when they let go.. i like my clean ,stock look, and the factorys wheels look good and arent that heavy at 17lbs, so i fit all the rubber i can on it and go drivin!!

[Magus]

WRCprotege,
I looked at the Skunk2 coilovers at protegegarage and wondered if they come with struts? If not, are you using the stock ones? Also how is the ride quality?

Magus

[WRCprotege]

yes, stock struts.. 50k miles and i blew a rear one, but as you can see the car is slammed, the ride is ok.. it really depends on the roads, if ther smooth or no dips and bumps, like a hwy, than its good, just in a few places here in town the roads are lumpy and that can bounce you around a little.. though every car iv ever own since i was 16 has had springs on it, so 14 years of this does have me used to the bounce and ride.
here a small crap video (has to fit on the site) of some of the fast parts of deals gap.. as you can see, with roads like that the skunk2s are great, and you can what 215-45-16 azenis can do for grip (note the damp/wet patches)- does matter that much the azenis grip like OMG in the wet..

[Magus]

So this bounciness that comes from using the coilover's, do you think that's because of the stock struts? I figure the point of the struts is to prevent the bounce. I heard a good test is if you push down on one corner it should bounce up and then go back to rest. If it continues to bounce you need to replace the strut/shock. I am sure with the width of tire and the lower center of gravity it would grip like all get out. I am curious on how they look and work with our stock struts, do you have any pics of the wheel off show this off? I wish Protege gararge had better pics with there products.

Magus

[WRCprotege]

ya struts will take out the bounce, and the ride is stiffer, not to noticeable if bumps etc small one inch, its fine.. big stuff that the sus has to compress 3 inches of so is not good, mosty because my car sits low and ther no more sus travail before bump stops.. dont slam the car and get shocks, you be fine...and if you do get them thers a plastic bushing that goes in the front strut assembly. this keeps them from poping when you turn.. other than that no problems.. on the car 3 years now, my first mod...just pm me if you like.. mabey i can get all the info you need on this

[Mr.Ames]

that looks like a fun road to drive on :D theres one here but its covered in pot holes and gravel :(

[WRCprotege]

thats the straightest part, 3rd gear ..but everything else is tight curvy and banked..

[Mr.Ames]

tight ;)

[Magus]

WRCprotege,
Thanks man for the review. What I really want to do strut wise is Tokico illuminas because they are adjustable (sort of the reason I am looking at these coil overs). I like adjustablity of soft for everyday and super hard for AutoX, but do not want to spend $1500-$2000! Since I have 106K miles, I figure I will need to replace the struts first. At $549 that's alot, but I figure for a couple hundred more, it's better than getting Tokico Blues. Then later I figure I will pickup the coilovers. I already have the AWR endlinks, Progress Rear Sway bar, and rear strut bar. It really handles well. I figure the only thing holding the car back is two things. I need more power to power out of the corners, and I need to lower the center of gravity.

Magus

[MonkeyBone]

WRCprotege you set my mind....ive ordered some 215/45ZR16 Dunlop Direzza DZ101 to put on my stock rims ... so....next friday they're on so I will tell you if you're right!(wedge)

Damn it looks like heaven on your car so it will on mine! (drinks)

[misbehave]

I have 205/50 on my P5 now.
Love the comfort and reduced noise level.
Hated the ride height and degraded handling.

Definitely going back to stock size next time.

[misbehave]

215-45-16 azenis.. they fit, they work, hella grip.. thats all thats been on her.. oh and the car is low.. heres a pic form last year before a deals gap trip.. NO rubbing at all, though i did roll the fenders in the rear to be safe.
Nice! You lowered your car, right?

Nevermind, I read your 2nd post.:p

[altspace]

I have 205/50 R16 BFgoodrich Traction T/A

Magus

Ha. I had the exact same on my P5 stockers.

[MonkeyBone]

tire diameter are:

195/50R16: 23.67 inches (stock tire)
205/45R16: 23.26 in ...too low
205/50R16: 24.07 in ...tow high
215/45R16: 23.61 in .....perfect fit? :confused: will see next friday!

[JoshP5]

Too high, too low, whatever. 1/4" difference in radius doesn't really matter.

[WRCprotege]

magus, im in the same boat, with cost.. i want adj struts as well, but ther $$$$, i did get my coilovers from e-bay for $240 shipped to my door, and thats was three years ago.. sturts and coilovers for under $900 is very possible.. for auto-x, do a midpipe next, be sure that it is 2.5"-2" and then finish it out with the exhaust, my mid pipe help mid TQ alot, and exhaust seemed more upper end.. MP3 ecu for upper end power and a little more mid TQ.. and tires, like the azenis..ther the greatest thing since R compound street tires, only they cost much less.. i get mine from www.discounttiredirect.com (http://www.discounttiredirect.com) for like $110 apeice and then, superwalmart is like $45 to mount and balance all four...and even just getting coilovers or springs make a BIG differance in balance, control and just the amount of grip the car has, even with what you have..i have winter wheels and summer wheels.. but some 215 sticky azenis will make you learn to corner all over again.. in the video the car is poised and im not pushing to hard, as i have 300 or so much sharper corners to go and keeping tire temps good, finding that pace in which you can run it all at once, ther is a buddy of mine holding the laptop,(webcam movie) and it was like 98 deg out as well.. most people cant believe the car does what it does.. most of witch is the tires.. then the sus set up and car balance.. OOOOh and then try stopping with them tires..as you can see in the video, like 70 to 25 in nothing flat.. gas milage hurts a little more with wider tires but on road trips like going to the GAP ill run them up to 55-60psi and its all good, just not as soft of a ride..

[WRCprotege]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109237
heres a little more gap action

[Mr.Ames]

reminds me of initial d for some reason, lol

[WRCprotege]

after driving that road, i care little for auto-x..iv done two track days ever and that still doesnt compare to the GAP..most trips ill log 600-800 miles of fast road driving in a weekend, i used about half the front azenis up in doing so.. but the gap has TONs of fun roads, not just the dragon(main part-318 turns in 11 miles) every road is twisty, and from where i stay thers 17 miles of fast twistys just to get to the dragon..so i get up in moring go to the dragon and run it twice and come back for breakfast, thats 1272 turns in the dragon part alone and 78 miles before breakfast..Iv built my car for that road, and sus settings, etc..
its a blast

[Nomad]

I have 205/40/16 on the stocks. Got a good dela on them when i needed winter tires.

They are smaller diameter so the speedo is off like 5-8 mph but that's ok by me. You can tell there is a gearing difference on the low end and in tight sections.

I don't use them much, they are my backup set.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2056000-2056999/2056679_11_full.jpg

[JoshP5]

40-series winter tires? Hmm...

Anyway, they look nice on your dropped P5. No doubt they'd be ridiculous on stock suspension. :)

[Sveivo]

Hmm. It's almost like you regain the wheel gap after dropping the car.

[WRCprotege]

my winter set up!! 205-55-15 and old maxima wheels.. in carbondale co,.. but now im running 195-60-15 because they where alot cheaper and was short on cash this go round...BFG traction ta

[MazdaSpeeder]

my winter set up!! 205-55-15 and old maxima wheels.. in carbondale co,.. but now im running 195-60-15 because they where alot cheaper and was short on cash this go round...BFG traction ta

Where in Louisville are you? I'm over just inside Jtown...don't see many Louisville P5s on this forum. Now that you've successfully tried it I may do 215s on my stockers as well...

[Nomad]

40-series winter tires? Hmm...

Anyway, they look nice on your dropped P5. No doubt they'd be ridiculous on stock suspension. :)

No, just "all weather". When i bought the car the tires were toast and i wanted full tread for my wife. I run 17s now but I had to get two replaced so these went back on. Looks more stock, sits a little lower but they work for now. Not too bad for 4 new tires @ $80 total...

[Sveivo]

my winter set up!! 205-55-15 and old maxima wheels.. in carbondale co,.. but now im running 195-60-15 because they where alot cheaper and was short on cash this go round...BFG traction ta
I like the way that looks. A drop does wonders on this car.

[P5inMD]

the 205s fit! they are loveRly! I think I'm gonna get another set of 205s to even it out all the way around. once the suspension needs updating, I'm gonna try to lower it. I haven't noticed much difference in ride quality, but it does steer left and vibrate at higher speeds (needs an alignment I'm too broke for). so once I get that done, I should be good to go. btw, to rotate, the wheels have to actually come off the tire and mounted on the opposite for equal tread wear, correct? a guy at sears said "you don't wanna do that". I'm thinking he was trying to save me money and his guys some time?

[Sveivo]

the 205s fit! they are loveRly! I think I'm gonna get another set of 205s to even it out all the way around. once the suspension needs updating, I'm gonna try to lower it. I haven't noticed much difference in ride quality, but it does steer left and vibrate at higher speeds (needs an alignment I'm too broke for). so once I get that done, I should be good to go. btw, to rotate, the wheels have to actually come off the tire and mounted on the opposite for equal tread wear, correct? a guy at sears said "you don't wanna do that". I'm thinking he was trying to save me money and his guys some time?
To rotate tires, you do not need to remove the tires from the wheels. Just unbolt, switch, bolt up.

[rednecks_r_us]

I always run 205/45/16 on my stock rims.

[P5inMD]

wow Bill, I didn't know you were rolling so nicely. is that your daily driver?

[P5inMD]

wow Bill, I didn't know you were rolling so nicely. is that your daily driver?

[njaremka]

I always run 205/45/16 on my stock rims.

you're such a rebel!!

[rednecks_r_us]

wow Bill, I didn't know you were rolling so nicely. is that your daily driver?


Yep with it 124 thousand miles and a guard rail crash and running over a large jackrabbit on vacation last week. I'll pick up my new lower grille and windsplitter this weekend.



On topic:

I run 205/45/16 on my stock rims and on my 5-zigen 16 x 7 rims.

[MonkeyBone]

will have 215/45ZR16 on stock rims tomorrow! :D

I'll be posting pics this weekend

[WRCprotege]

nice!!

[MonkeyBone]

Damn (upyours)

This is the most important thing to do with your car...change the tires
And in my case...215/45ZR16 Dunlop Direzza DZ101 is heaven

Fits lovely on the rim no bubble and sidewall sludge or anything...see it on the side...they look like stock...but from front or rear...they are a bit wider...and the traction oh boy I will wait until ive put 200-300 km on them before going crazy but for now they are sticky, comfy and soo beautiful.

I dont know if ALL the tires in 215/45 fits our rims (2003) but those are incredible :D

Pictures are here ----> http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2632795/2

[WRCprotege]

nice pics.. thats what im talken about, 215mm of goodness... right on(drive)

[rednecks_r_us]

Damn (upyours)

This is the most important thing to do with your car...change the tires
And in my case...215/45ZR16 Dunlop Direzza DZ101 is heaven

Fits lovely on the rim no bubble and sidewall sludge or anything...see it on the side...they look like stock...but from front or rear...they are a bit wider...and the traction oh boy I will wait until ive put 200-300 km on them before going crazy but for now they are sticky, comfy and soo beautiful.

I dont know if ALL the tires in 215/45 fits our rims (2003) but those are incredible :D

Pictures are here ----> http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2632795/2

That's funny. I have the same tire in a 205/45/16 and can't stand them. The tire is sticky enough for going forward, but the sidewall flexes too much for the type of cornering that I do on the mountain. I can't burn up my Direzza's fast enough so I can go back to the Yok. AVS ES100.

[MonkeyBone]

Yeah they have a bit too much flex but hey...compare to the dunlop sp5000M that I had before and my $$$ I had to spend....they're enough for me

If im going to win lotto and buy a murcielago, I would not choose these tires...and I would buy a extinguisher :D

[WRCprotege]

well if yon need more stiffness, raise the psi.. sure you lose a little grip, but control is speed.. road conditions etc vary and can make or break the PSI thing working for you.. but a smooth road is great and you can add on the PSI the stiffen up the tires for more response and less flex, etc... i some times will run 60 PSI in the rear tires and 50 in the fronts, = fast turn in, razor handling,snappy car,super responsive.. or 32-42 front and 40-48 rear= hella grip, smooth ride,smooth slow break away, more forgiving to errors,,, but can be sluggish,heavy steering feel,sloppy response, or elastic response-witch is very unpredictable.. this varys with driver, car setup, conditions and THE tire that your running....put a shit load of air in your tires and go play,, slowly remove air till you find your sweet spot.. its help to run the same thing over and over with this, so you can make a good judgment with this.. so #1 twistys #2 aired up tires-50-60 psi 3# tire pressure gauge..some tires need a huge PSI change to feel the affects, so mabey do some runs at 50psi and drop it down to 30 psi and run it.. this most likly will not be your sweet spot, but should help you find and feel both sides of the spectrum....oh and the MOST important thing is to have fun and be safe

[MonkeyBone]

tires are rated at max 51 psi and they are presently inflated at 36...but Ill be trying other pressions :P

[P5inMD]

I'm not a fan of dunlop after the stock were so sucky. and what tires do you have that you can inflate them to 60 psi? the Khumo ecsta spt is max 51 psi. I usually keep 'em btw 45-50psi

[njaremka]

wow - you should NEVER inflate your tires even close to the max rating on the side wall. the highest i would ever go would be 40psi, since stock reccomended is 32psi. if you inflate your to neer max on the sidewall, as you heat them up the pressure is going to go above the max, then your driving around on over-inflated tires, which is not good.

[P5inMD]

no, I check the pressure when the tires are hot (aprox. 30 miles). So its not over inflated. and I hate it when I get my car back from sears and the tires are at 30psi. pick up is super slow and handling is no fun, and I need all the pick up I can get in an auto.

[JoshP5]

Varying the tire pressure is for fine tuning the handling characteristics. Big handling changes should be done through springs/struts/sways/alignment.

[MonkeyBone]

P5inMD, Dunlop ....they make crappy tires....and they make these tires (Direzza) for JGTC in japan.... I don't think it's a crappy tire :P

[WRCprotege]

well yes ther is a recommended tire pressure for each tire make.. the azenis are rated to 51psi and yes it not a great idea to overly exceed that.. but i used to run 55-60 psi in 14" 195-55 tire back in the days to keep the from flexing all over the place...13 years ago we didnt have almost any sport tires with stiff sidewalls in small sizes, 17 or bigger.. iv never had a problem, iand i always ran them down to cords.. granted this isnt a great idea, but tires will be fine if you dont over do it...and joshp5 is right..im just tring to help those get the most out of ther tires.. want they have how..

[Crazy D]

Sorry guys had to use this one vs adding another one... need input on the following if possible:

18 x 7.5 (+40) pattern 5-114.3 ? w/ 215 / 40 / 18 rubber ? on eibach Pro Kit?

[JoshP5]

No.

[Mr.Ames]

Sorry guys had to use this one vs adding another one... need input on the following if possible:

18 x 7.5 (+40) pattern 5-114.3 ? w/ 215 / 40 / 18 rubber ? on eibach Pro Kit?

you need +48mm offset and 35 series tires

[MazdaSpeeder]

So, I need to replace my tires soon, and I want to go the 215 on stockers route...I've been doing some research, and I want to go with a soft, all-season, hi-performance tire, but 215/45/16 really limits my choices in that area (to practically none). I have a lot of choices in the 215/55/16 range, but I am curious if: 1) The extra sidewall flex would negate my traction gains 2) I would have fender rub because of increased height or width 3) I could do all of this without "rolling the fenders." Here are the numbers I've crunched so far:

--------------------205/50/16-------215/45/16------215/55/16
Rim Width Range........5.5-7.5...............7-8.................6-7.5
Meas. Rim Width...........6.5...................7........... ........6.5-7
Section Width............8.1-8.4...............8.5..................8.9
Tread Width..............6.5-7.2...............7.9.................7-7.5
Overall Diameter...........24.1................23.6....... ..........25.3

The 205/50/16 is what I (and many) currently have, the 215/45s are the Direzzas many have had good luck with, and the 215/55 is the size that has the selection I want. Thanks to the Tire Rack for the numbers...let me know what you guys think!

[njaremka]

a 215/55 tires will be TALL - too tall for the protege

[MazdaSpeeder]

If the diameter # is right, it should only eat another .7 of an inch from my current tires...

[njaremka]

yeah, but, its almost a full 2-inches taller than stock size - i would be real surprised if they even fit in the wheel well without rubbing on something

[JoshP5]

Don't bother with that other crap, just stick with 205/50s--get some Falken 512s or try the new 912s.

[MazdaSpeeder]

I've heard mixed reviews on the Falken's...not your experience?

[JoshP5]

I'm running 512s. For the money you will not find a better all season tire that can handle light snow.

EDIT: the new 912s may be better; I haven't tried or heard any reviews on them yet.

[MonkeyBone]

215/55 is ?&$&?&$% too big dude it will rub everywhere
205/50 is a bit high for me but a lot of people here runs with this size
215/45 is what I have (Direzzas) and with 40 PSI its reallllllly great..not too hard on the road and with stock suspension im litteraly going at the limits of the car so im thinking coil-overs for next summer :P

And for the rim measurements 215 is 7-8 and everything it depends on the brand of the tire and its a SAFE measure you can go with 8.5 and evene 9 inches with a 215 and 6 inches is the skinniest you can go with

It says 1 cup of sugar in your cake recipe...but you can put 2 cups...and 2 of brown sugar of you want :P

P.S. size for size...215/45 on stockers is the way to go...its 1/2 inch from the struts and plenty of space on the outside...absolutly no rubbing anywhere even when Im taking an highway exit at speeds that will make the car wanna do a roll-over :D(cabpatch)

[MazdaSpeeder]

Do you have your fenders rolled?

[misbehave]

215/55 is ?&$&?&$% too big dude it will rub everywhere
205/50 is a bit high for me but a lot of people here runs with this size
215/45 is what I have (Direzzas) and with 40 PSI its reallllllly great..not too hard on the road and with stock suspension im litteraly going at the limits of the car so im thinking coil-overs for next summer :P

And for the rim measurements 215 is 7-8 and everything it depends on the brand of the tire and its a SAFE measure you can go with 8.5 and evene 9 inches with a 215 and 6 inches is the skinniest you can go with

It says 1 cup of sugar in your cake recipe...but you can put 2 cups...and 2 of brown sugar of you want :P

P.S. size for size...215/45 on stockers is the way to go...its 1/2 inch from the struts and plenty of space on the outside...absolutly no rubbing anywhere even when Im taking an highway exit at speeds that will make the car wanna do a roll-over :D(cabpatch)

40 PSI? (boom06)
Is that going to make your tires worn out very fast?


And you are right, 205/50 is too Fu_king high.

[JoshP5]

size for size...215/45 on stockers is the way to go...Meh, you can find 205/45s that'll do the job at least as well.

[WRCprotege]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=110251
215/45/16 as slamed as it gets and no rubbing.. i did roll the fenders just to be safe after i had the tires on for a few weeks as i have 10mm wheel spacers that i run sometimes.. thus the extra room need...

[misbehave]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=110251
215/45/16 as slamed as it gets and no rubbing.. i did roll the fenders just to be safe after i had the tires on for a few weeks as i have 10mm wheel spacers that i run sometimes.. thus the extra room need...

Do you have pics of your car with the spacers on?
Do the spacers affect handling or cornering?

[SlowPro98]

I've got 205/50/r16 and they're great. the sidewall is a little softer than my 195/40/r17s, but the extra girth is great in wet driving.

[JoshP5]

Damn, 195/40s in CT? I'd live in fear of bending my rims. (nervous)

[SlowPro98]

Damn, 195/40s in CT? I'd live in fear of bending my rims. (nervous)

yeah, I didn't want to have rubbing issues when I lowered her. my wife has had some close calls, but she has become a pro at dodging potholes and we both drive slow-er than with the winter tires. and we have a short commute.
my next set of tires will probably be 50s.

[MonkeyBone]

im NOT lowered and my fenders are NOT rolled and there are NO rubbing at all

the only thing it does is: sticking as hell :P

running them at 40 PSI is vital but as low as 34 is ok if you want a smoother ride but at 40 is almost like a stock ride its not too harsh on your butt

i think im the 1st to have direzzas 215/45 on my stockers and WRCprotege have azenis in the same size

its up too you if you wanna be in our group of extremists :P

[WRCprotege]

hmmm i see if i have any with digital pics with the spacers on.. i got alot film pics...and yes the handling is differant.. not to much, but theres more stabilitly with them.. i like using them only on the rear with the rear sway bar kicked up a notch,, fast turn in and great rear rotation without breaking loose.. very planted feeling..looks gay with them only in the rear...high speed/express way ramps is great 70 down about 72-73up.. up feels great, theres more grip but i run out of power-- bottom of 3rd

[MonkeyBone]

I too get to let loose on highway ramps at 85+ mph and ive done one hell of a ride at 87 mph on an "S" highway ramp and i had too let a distance between me and thoses bikes up front...and when they saw me right behind them after the curves they freaked out! they were looking at me like "was this the car wayyyy behind us at the beginning of the ramp???"
215/45 is good(2thumbs)

[WRCprotege]

thats the best.. oooh i do love gettin s2000/civics etc in the corners.. watch for the look of wonderment... :)

[MonkeyBone]

yeah and camaros :P

[SlowPro98]

I'm running 512s. For the money you will not find a better all season tire that can handle light snow.

EDIT: the new 912s may be better; I haven't tried or heard any reviews on them yet.


I'm also running Falken Ziex all season . they are great, even with the short sidewall, they are very sturdy tires. Amazing wet traction, i haven't really run them in the snow yet, I've got snows on steelie for the rough stuff. . (2thumbs)