I will have to sell the CX-9...

[sranger]

The seats in my CX-9 are so uncomfortable to me that I am going to have to sell it after only 1000 miles. It has my rear end so sore that I cannot stand to drive it any longer. I have owned many vehicles over the years and this is the only vehicle that I have experianced this problem with. My last vehicle was a 2005 Mercury Mariner and the seats were not any bigger, but were much more comfortable. The dealer and Mazda will not do anything to help me...

I am completely sick about the whole thing. I can not tell you how horrable I fell at this moment. I am going to lose thousands of dollars, but I cannot stand it any longer. I spend 4-6hr a day driving and this is just intolerable. I had an upolstry guy look at it and he said there is not enough padding tword the rear of the seat bottom and the frame is too narrow in the rear. tehre are two part sont eh fram of the seat bottom that are just under the cover and they put two pressre points on the sides of my rear end.

I HIGHLY RECOMED THAT you NOT buy a CX-9 if you are a larger than mormal person. I cannot believe that anyone over 200lb would find these seats to be comfortable on a long trip.

PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU.....

[DeanSweet]

replace the seats?

[shalezoom3]

if you don't mind me asking....what is your size?

[l-miwa]

There are some REALLY nice aftermarket seats out there. I'm sure you could get a seat that fits and even have a custom bracket made if necessary, for less than you'd lose selling the CX-9.

[Shaz]

he's just messin' you're an idiot if you're getting rid of it only after 1k and just for the seats.

[Whitesnake]

I am unfortunatly over 200LB.. and I have no prob with the seats... the only time I have a problem is if I have something in my back pocket causing me pain, so I take it out (wallet) and i am just fine. Sometime I wish the lumbar was a little higher.. but other then that .. the seats are fine. are you wide?..

The seats in my CX-9 are so uncomfortable to me that I am going to have to sell it after only 1000 miles. It has my rear end so sore that I cannot stand to drive it any longer. I have owned many vehicles over the years and this is the only vehicle that I have experianced this problem with. My last vehicle was a 2005 Mercury Mariner and the seats were not any bigger, but were much more comfortable. The dealer and Mazda will not do anything to help me...

I am completely sick about the whole thing. I can not tell you how horrable I fell at this moment. I am going to lose thousands of dollars, but I cannot stand it any longer. I spend 4-6hr a day driving and this is just intolerable. I had an upolstry guy look at it and he said there is not enough padding tword the rear of the seat bottom and the frame is too narrow in the rear. tehre are two part sont eh fram of the seat bottom that are just under the cover and they put two pressre points on the sides of my rear end.

I HIGHLY RECOMED THAT you NOT buy a CX-9 if you are a larger than mormal person. I cannot believe that anyone over 200lb would find these seats to be comfortable on a long trip.

PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU.....

[Mazda3]

The seats are one of the best things about ALL Mazdas. They make the best seats on the market. The Tribute/Escape/Mariner seats aren't half the seat the CX-9 has. I'm well over 200lbs. I love the seats in my CX-7 and Mazda 3. I also loved the seats in my Mazda 6 and Protege ES that we had previously.

Its not possible to build a seat to fit everyone, but you make a very broad statement saying anyone over 200lbs should not buy a CX-9.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

Sorry to hear this, but of course Mazda and the dealer arent going to help you. It is not their fault that you find the seats uncomfortable and should have noticed this when you looked at the car. this is not a problem that should be left to them to fix....not being an ass, just letting you know how it is...

[varek]

The seats in my CX-9 are so uncomfortable to me that I am going to have to sell it after only 1000 miles. It has my rear end so sore that I cannot stand to drive it any longer. I have owned many vehicles over the years and this is the only vehicle that I have experianced this problem with. My last vehicle was a 2005 Mercury Mariner and the seats were not any bigger, but were much more comfortable. The dealer and Mazda will not do anything to help me...

I am completely sick about the whole thing. I can not tell you how horrable I fell at this moment. I am going to lose thousands of dollars, but I cannot stand it any longer. I spend 4-6hr a day driving and this is just intolerable. I had an upolstry guy look at it and he said there is not enough padding tword the rear of the seat bottom and the frame is too narrow in the rear. tehre are two part sont eh fram of the seat bottom that are just under the cover and they put two pressre points on the sides of my rear end.

I HIGHLY RECOMED THAT you NOT buy a CX-9 if you are a larger than mormal person. I cannot believe that anyone over 200lb would find these seats to be comfortable on a long trip.

PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU.....

I found a solution to your problem. There is a type of inflatable device that the Doctors recomend it is used for persons that are recuperating from hemorrhoid surgery. Many of the patients that have used the inflatable device keep it. I thinks Its made out of the same material they use for the(spank) Dr. Scholls "jelling" shoe soles.

[MSPRO]

I test drove a couple different cx-7's and the leather seats hurt my back. I have problems with my back since being rear ended in my MSP 3 times while I had it. So now my back is very picky and the leather seats didnt give enough and were to stiff for my back. I then drove a sport with cloth seats and it was perfectly comfortable.

[sranger]

I am 6'-4" and about 230lb. The sides of the seat bolsters poke me right on my hip bones. There is a place in the side of the seat bottom on both sides where the padding is quite thin. I sink deep enough in the seat for the frame to put pressure on both sides of my hip. After a while it gets sore.

This is not a joke. I did not notice the problem until after I had driven it for about 2 hours. Of course by then it was too late. I am going to try having some extra padding put in the seat before I try to sell it. The upolstery guy said he could fix the problem, but would have to change the way the seat bottom is made and make a new cover. In order for the seats to match, I will have to have all of them replaced. This will probably cost as much as I would lose on a trade. I could, of course, just have the driver's seat fixed, but that would look stupid ( how I feel at the moment ) on a $40K vehicle....

I admit that I did not test drive it fo more than an hour before I bought one. To be honest I never even though this might be a problem. At first, I thought the seats were comfortable. However, the constant pressure on my hip bones get quite uncomfortable after a while.

I do not ride with anything in my pockets...

If you are not experiance this proble, be thankful. I just want to warrn enyone my size who is thinking about buying one. This IS NOT somthing that you would notice in a test drive...

[sranger]

The seats are one of the best things about ALL Mazdas. They make the best seats on the market. The Tribute/Escape/Mariner seats aren't half the seat the CX-9 has. I'm well over 200lbs. I love the seats in my CX-7 and Mazda 3. I also loved the seats in my Mazda 6 and Protege ES that we had previously.

Its not possible to build a seat to fit everyone, but you make a very broad statement saying anyone over 200lbs should not buy a CX-9.


I am glad that you like the CX-7 seats, but this is a CX-9 model. All I can say is that it is very uncomfortable to me...

[Mazda3]

I believe you are having discomfort. I was just stating that most people don't. I would try adjusting the bottom and/or back of the seat at different angles to see if it helps at all.

[Dalton]

The seats in my CX-9 are so uncomfortable to me that I am going to have to sell it after only 1000 miles. It has my rear end so sore that I cannot stand to drive it any longer. I have owned many vehicles over the years and this is the only vehicle that I have experianced this problem with. My last vehicle was a 2005 Mercury Mariner and the seats were not any bigger, but were much more comfortable. The dealer and Mazda will not do anything to help me...

I am completely sick about the whole thing. I can not tell you how horrable I fell at this moment. I am going to lose thousands of dollars, but I cannot stand it any longer. I spend 4-6hr a day driving and this is just intolerable. I had an upolstry guy look at it and he said there is not enough padding tword the rear of the seat bottom and the frame is too narrow in the rear. tehre are two part sont eh fram of the seat bottom that are just under the cover and they put two pressre points on the sides of my rear end.

I HIGHLY RECOMED THAT you NOT buy a CX-9 if you are a larger than mormal person. I cannot believe that anyone over 200lb would find these seats to be comfortable on a long trip.

PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU.....

Sorry Mate,
I just Dont believe you -
I'm 192cm and 120 kg
(For metrically challanged, that translates to about 6'3''1/2 and 260 pounds) and i feel NO DISCOMFORT at all. (boom07)

So, it's look like you on your own -
and that should not give you any ground
to justify the "NOT to Buy a CX-9" announcement??? (notcool)

[OMF]

I am 192 cm, 113 kg and found the CX-9 driver seat one of the most comfortable on the market. Also, headroom and legroom are much better than the competitor CUVs and some SUVs.

[sranger]

Sorry Mate,
I just Dont believe you -
I'm 192cm and 120 kg
(For metrically challanged, that translates to about 6'3''1/2 and 260 pounds) and i feel NO DISCOMFORT at all. (boom07)

So, it's look like you on your own -
and that should not give you any ground
to justify the "NOT to Buy a CX-9" announcement??? (notcool)


I do not care wether or not you believe me. I know that it is very uncomfortable to me! That is all I can base my opinion on. I honestly find it hard to believe that other people my size would find this seat comfortable on a long trip. I am begining to wonder if somthing is simply made wrong in my seat.

I asked my dealer to take a look and see if somthing it actually wrong with the way the seat is constructed and they refused to do so. I called the local Mazda Rep and he also refused to even take a look.

Until I find some solution to or reason for the problem, I stand my my Warning to anyone who is larger than average. If all seats are made the way Mine is, I know that other people my size will find it uncomfortable...

[jim168]

I believe you.
I bought a seat cushion with massage function for a seat in my house before.
It had a bad design, where the massage motor housings, hard plastic shells, can be felt right through the padding.

After a while, it really starts to hurt. I returned the seat cushion pronto.
The original purpose of me buying a seat cushion was that my seat wasn't padded sufficiently, and it hurt me when my behind gets pushed on the hard objects beneath, especially the screws.

Some possible causes of your problem may be:
1. Mismanufactured/misaligned foam
2. your bone shape is different from others (has no relation to weight).
3. You may have developed some medical problems over the years. If the pain happens outside the CX-9, you may want to see a doctor.

But I understand how painful bottoming out a seat, and hitting the hard objects below the padding is.
I have had plenty of experience with other seats like that.
Not with the CX-9 specifically, but I know what you're talking about.

Once you've become aware that it's possible for you to have a problem like this, you can probably be more cautious with buying seats in the future.
Push hard everywhere on the cushion.
Sit on it and shift your weight around, putting all your weight on one spot.
If you can feel through the cushion the slightest bit of hard objects underneath, that seat is not for you. It will hurt in a few minutes to hours.

[sranger]

Well,

I stopped by and talked to the upolstry guy today and I am going to bring it in on Monday mourning. He is going to take the seat bottom apart and see if there is anything wrong with the construction of my seat or any defect in the materials. He felt around on the seat bottom and said that there appeared to be a lot of excess leather behind the two seams where the two colors meet in the seam on the side bolsters. He said that the amount of leather he could feel under the seam seemed unusual. He said it was probably not trimmed off properly before assembly. He thinks that the extra wad of leather might be what is poking into the side of my hips. He did note that he did not feel the same wad of leather on the passenger's seat bottom.

He also suggested adding about 5/8 - 1" of foam in the bottom rear section of the seat. He thinks that I am sinking too far down in the seat at the back and that combined with some excess leather in the seam is causing my discomfort. He said if this is the problem, It would be an easy fix and I should not be able to see any difference in the seat.

I'll let you guys know how it goes...

[Mazda3]

(cool)

Keep us informed.

[KRT-1]

I am 6 ft tall and 250 lbs, and I find the seats in my wife's CX-9 to be very comfortable. I spent two 6 hours stretches driving her car while on vacation during memorial weekend and I had no problems at all. I am really suprised to hear you are having such a hard time. Everyone who has ridden in her car has commented on it's comfort.

[cusco72]

I finally managed to squeeze in a test drive of the cx-9 this weekend, I went in with very high hopes and with much anticipation. The result was complete and utter disappointment with both the vehicle and the sales guy. I'm 6'3" and 255 lbs and have to say the drivers seat felt very tight and small the console intrudes on legroom and the seats were quite uncomfortable, I have to say after all the hype I was actually shocked at how much I disliked sitting in the cx-9. Even with the seat all the way to the bottom (not the best for hips) I was still looking out through the window tint instead of the meat of the windshield, mid row seating was ok and back row was brutal, my head hit the roof about a foot from being all the way back in the seat. All of this could be tolerated if the driver zone was comfortable (I don't plan to be a passenger!) which it definately wasn't. I didn't find the interior to be as well done as so many of the reviews have, the exterior color selection is the shining star of our mazda experience but we can't shell out 50,000 plus for a mediocre vehicle with a nice looking exterior!
Sales guy: terrible. (notcool) Kept saying "nice ride" over and over while we drove around but was clueless about anything else. To be honest I didn't feel any zoom zoom in the ride/handling/power either but to each their own. Tried a mazda5 as well (which seemed alot more value per dollar) and the sales guy actually kept laughing and saying how ridiculous I looked in the car(drive) also he kept going on and on about how only a "family guy" could ever own a car like this. The fact that I went to the dealership with my 3 kids should have tipped him off that I was in fact somewhat of a "family guy". MORON(flame) I think this is the end of the line for mazda and I...

[Mazda3]

Fortunately for Mazda its target audience would disagree with pretty much everything in your post. Other than the Acura MDX there is nothing in this type of vehicle that handles anywhere close to the CX-9. It is unfortunate you had a crappy salesman, but it doesn't sound like a good salesman would have mattered anyway.

[sranger]

Well,

Here is what they found wrong.

1st, there was not enough padding in the rear portion of the drivers seat. It was about 3/4 thinner than the passenger's seat bottom? They added about 1" of foam under the rear section of the seat bottom.

2nd, the seat cover was not centered in the seat. It bunched up on the side tword the console. To be honest, I never really notice this. The guy managed to get it more or less centered when they put it back together. Again the passenger's seat did not have this problem. It looked like it was shifted about 1/2" off center when compared to the passenger's seat.

3rd, there was a little too much leather left on both seams where the two different color peices were sewen together. This was bunching up and was probably causing most of my discomfort. You could see the indention of this wad of leather in the foam pad. I am fairly sure that this is what was actually poking into my hip.

As near as I can tell, I can tolerate the seat now. It was more or less comfortable on the 1.5hr drive home. The seat bottom is a little harder where the padding was added. The upolstry guy said the leather would streatch a little and should soften up over time. He did say to keep the leather well conditioned for a few weeks.

It is my opinion that most of the discomfort I felt was due to poor workmanship on the seat bottom and the fact that the foam was too thin. I am not sure why the foam on the drivers side seat was so much thinner than the foam on the passenger's. I think it cause me to sink deeper into the seat than I should have. This cause the sides to fold in more and put more pressure on my hips.

For the heck of it, I sat in the Passengers seat for a little over an hour listening to the stereo system ( one of the reasons why I bought the car to start with ) It did not seem to bother me like the drivers seat did.

I hope this solves the issue and thought you guys might want to hear what I found...

[Mazda3]

It really pisses me off that your dealer didn't resolve this problem for you. A lazy dealer giving Mazda a bad name. (pissed)

I hope the new set-up works for you.

[l-miwa]

You would think by now that dealers would realize that just because you've already spent the money, they can't just ignore you. The #1 way dealers get business is by word of mouth. If you tell everyone you know that there was a manufacturer's defect that the dealer refused to acknowledge or repair, then ultimately that will cost him a LOT of business.

Manufacturer's defects are a fact of life. No one is perfect. The question is how they deal with it. All he had to do was loan you another CX-9 for a day. If you drove it and found the seat to be just fine, then there was clearly a problem with your specific seat. If you found it equally uncomfortable, then the basic design just didn't agree with you. In either case, you would undoubtedly have felt that the dealer had done the reasonable thing to try to help. As it is, you and everyone you tell will think "I'm certainly never buying a car from that dealer."

Why don't they ever learn?

[Antonio DiMarco]

It really pisses me off that your dealer didn't resolve this problem for you. A lazy dealer giving Mazda a bad name. (pissed)

I hope the new set-up works for you.


Workmanship issues happen. The primary reason for dealers is to handle customer satisfaction issues. If they don't they're worthless.

I would lodge a formal complaint against the dealer with Mazda USA and recoup what it cost you to fix the issue. The dealer has no excuse for ignoring your issue. It's a shame becasue as you can see one bad experience can sour someone to a brand.

I'm one of the lucky ones. My dealer has always been A+

[Infymus]

I just drove my CX-9 1147 miles from Salt Lake to the Southern Oregon Coast. I loved every minute of it. The NAV was fantastic in showing us rest stops, gas and food. The seats were perfect, the lumbar awesome. Once in a while I'd hit the seat heaters and put some heat on my back.

Not a single pain. My knees didn't hurt like they did in my 2005 Subaru Legacy GT. It was very comfortable, handled like a dream.

Only complaint? I wish the automatic controls for manual shifting were on the steering wheel, so I could have both hands on the wheel while doing tight canyon turns.

I love this car.

[Whitesnake]

If I am correct in this statement...

Why they heck do they have on the manual shift hitting up is downshifting and down being up shifting??

I had an AcuraTL and up was shifting up, and down, shifting down...



I just drove my CX-9 1147 miles from Salt Lake to the Southern Oregon Coast. I loved every minute of it. The NAV was fantastic in showing us rest stops, gas and food. The seats were perfect, the lumbar awesome. Once in a while I'd hit the seat heaters and put some heat on my back.

Not a single pain. My knees didn't hurt like they did in my 2005 Subaru Legacy GT. It was very comfortable, handled like a dream.

Only complaint? I wish the automatic controls for manual shifting were on the steering wheel, so I could have both hands on the wheel while doing tight canyon turns.

I love this car.

[Antonio DiMarco]

If I am correct in this statement...

Why they heck do they have on the manual shift hitting up is downshifting and down being up shifting??

I had an AcuraTL and up was shifting up, and down, shifting down...

That's a great point, that also seems counterintuitive to me. Upshift should be "up" and down shift should be "down."

I also don't like that it's very easy to shift the tranny into manual mode when you grab the stick. Often I will steady myself with the stick as I'm turning which casues the tranny to switch to manual mode.

[Whitesnake]

As far as the stick easy to change.. well I had a AcuraTL.. it had the same configuration, so that's not really going to change.

That's a great point, that also seems counterintuitive to me. Upshift should be "up" and down shift should be "down."

I also don't like that it's very easy to shift the tranny into manual mode when you grab the stick. Often I will steady myself with the stick as I'm turning which casues the tranny to switch to manual mode.

[sbmrinaldi]

I had an Audi with tiptronic and it shifted up for up and down for down, but personally I feel that is backwards. In a manual up is usually for 1st, 3rd and 5th when down is 2nd, 4th and 6th. It just feels natural to me to pull down to up shift.

[Antonio DiMarco]

I had an Audi with tiptronic and it shifted up for up and down for down, but personally I feel that is backwards. In a manual up is usually for 1st, 3rd and 5th when down is 2nd, 4th and 6th. It just feels natural to me to pull down to up shift.

No matter which choice the designer makes it'll be the wrong one for half the population :-)

[P5w3kids]

If I am correct in this statement...

Why they heck do they have on the manual shift hitting up is downshifting and down being up shifting??

I had an AcuraTL and up was shifting up, and down, shifting down...

There is no industry standard. Some cars go one way, some the other.

I read on some forum where someone had reversed the shift pattern by switching a couple of wires. This might be possible with the CX-9 as well.

On the OP, hope you sorted the seat out. It sounds like you found a very good upholstery guy. Dealers don't have any expertise in upholstery, I think they all subcontract it out.

People are shaped very differently, and different people will find different seats very uncomfortable. People send me emails to complain about the seat comfort in their car all the time, especially Hondas for some reason.

Some of the people here are way too defensive about the CX-9. Just because someone finds the seat very uncomfortable doesn't mean you have a bad car. The guy came here for help, and some people kicked him for doing so. Not cool.

[Antonio DiMarco]

There is no industry standard. Some cars go one way, some the other.

I read on some forum where someone had reversed the shift pattern by switching a couple of wires. This might be possible with the CX-9 as well.

On the OP, hope you sorted the seat out. It sounds like you found a very good upholstery guy. Dealers don't have any expertise in upholstery, I think they all subcontract it out.

People are shaped very differently, and different people will find different seats very uncomfortable. People send me emails to complain about the seat comfort in their car all the time, especially Hondas for some reason.

Some of the people here are way too defensive about the CX-9. Just because someone finds the seat very uncomfortable doesn't mean you have a bad car. The guy came here for help, and some people kicked him for doing so. Not cool.

It was becasue he made a blanket statement and told people NOT to buy the CX-9. He can feel free to voice his opinion but to categorically say that every person with his physical frame would find the seats uncomfortable is unfair and close-minded.

That's another thing that people tend to do on this forum- lash out without having any perspective. I understand people get angry, but we're all adults. Try to keep it together. Contrary to what you may think Mazda is not out to screw the consumer. Like other companies they are trying to strike a balance between pleasing customers and making a profit.

Oh and then there's the Monday morning engineers who think they could have built a better car- don't even get me started. :)

[P5w3kids]

He did qualify his recommendation, saying it applied to large people, and made his reasons clear. The way I take it is that people considering the CX-9 will now pay extra attention to how the seats feel, which isn't a bad thing.

Seat comfort is a very touchy issue. A couple members of my panel--that I know of--have traded in nearly new cars because they were very uncomfortable in the seat. One was a Lexus, the other a Honda. It's one of the few things that can be hard to notice during a test drive, yet can make a car undriveable for someone, and that the manufacturer cannot be obligated to fix.

[sranger]

Well,

After driving the car for a few days, I determined that the upolstery guy put in a little too much foam. ( really batting material ) This made the seat a little too hard. It had four layers uder the stock foam. I removed two of them myself. ( It was not that hard and I have done this type of thing on come cars I rebuilt.. )

As a result, the seat is tolerable. I drov the car for about four hours today. My tail end was still a little sore, but it has not really had a break from driving in a while so my comfort level is likely to improve once I have a day or two rest from driving it.

I seriously doubt I will ever find the seat to truly be comfortable, but I think I can get it to tolerable. The only way to make it comfortable would be to completely rebuild the seat bottom. To make the seats match, this would require replacing all of the seat covers. Since this would cost about as much as I would lose on a trade, I will either live with the seats or sell the CX-9.

As for the negative comments, all I can say is that this is the way I feel. I will never buy a Mazda again. I strongly stand by my warning that anyone one larger than average is highly likely to find these seats uncomfortable. Furthermore, I think the main problem lies with the two tone color leather seats. The seams in the side bolsters is the main issue. It was not a good idea to make the rolled edge seam on the side bolsters. It looks good, but maked the seam very hard. A blind seam or french seam would certianly be more comfortable. I also think that the cloth or even the leather seats without the color insert would be much more comfortable.

The whole thing kind of makes me sick, but I really have few options that make sense. I do not want to put any more money into the vehicle so replacing the upostery is not really an option. I will probable just traid it and chalk the horrable experiance up to a tough learing experiance and simply move on...

Any one what to buy a slightly used CX-9???

[gsrtype1]

the cx-9 won a comparison test with the acura, chevrolet and i think a couple others in motortred magazine.....maybe your ass is to big!

[Mazda3]

the cx-9 won a comparison test with the acura, chevrolet and i think a couple others in motortred magazine.....maybe your ass is to big!

Please don't comment unless you have something intelligent to say.

[evilmonkeyMSP]

sadly, i have yet to see anything intelligent come from this member...Please don't comment unless you have something intelligent to say.

[mountjonas]

If I am correct in this statement...

Why they heck do they have on the manual shift hitting up is downshifting and down being up shifting??

I had an AcuraTL and up was shifting up, and down, shifting down...

I've seen rally sequential gearboxes where it's up to downshift and vice versa. To me it's intuitive to push down to upshift. Kinda like inverted controls on first person shooters/flight sims.

[musicola]

I also find the seats a bit uncomfortable (the leather seats - don't know what the cloth ones are like). I am 6", 190 lbs. with long legs. <-- no you can't have a pic, but thanks for asking ;-)

I think seat comfort is a very individual thing that is hard to generalize. I find the driver seat a bit less comfortable than my wife's previous Dodge minivan when driving on long trips (driving about 2 hours on each "shift") but a bit more comfortable than the Dodge on the passenger side. I definitely find them less comfortable than the seats in my car (CTS-V), where I can drive 4-5 hours before getting sore.

[Dalton]

That's a great point, that also seems counterintuitive to me. Upshift should be "up" and down shift should be "down."

I also don't like that it's very easy to shift the tranny into manual mode when you grab the stick. Often I will steady myself with the stick as I'm turning which casues the tranny to switch to manual mode.

Those are the sweetest features of them all.
Let me explain :cool:

when you accelerate - hard (burnout)
the inertia will keep you clued to your seat -
its hard to upshift against inertia.
Same goes for the downshifting - you usually downshift under the braking
and shifting forward will not fight the inertia.

About the last - when i reach for the stick in car with autobox. (drive)
I'm shurely going to shift - the easier it is, to go to manual mode, the better.
Otherwise why touch the stick at all - only twice from P-> D and back :rolleyes:
If you want to "steady" yourself, grab the wheel ;)

[CX-7owner]

I also find the seats a bit uncomfortable (the leather seats - don't know what the cloth ones are like). I am 6", 190 lbs. with long legs. <-- no you can't have a pic, but thanks for asking ;-)

I think seat comfort is a very individual thing that is hard to generalize. I find the driver seat a bit less comfortable than my wife's previous Dodge minivan when driving on long trips (driving about 2 hours on each "shift") but a bit more comfortable than the Dodge on the passenger side. I definitely find them less comfortable than the seats in my car (CTS-V), where I can drive 4-5 hours before getting sore.
Maybe some of you that were/are having problems should try the cloth? Because the cloth has a very different firmness to them than the leather. Some people have noted that the leather was too hard and that the cloth was just right.

[Brian MP5T]

This is not a joke. I did not notice the problem until after I had driven it for about 2 hours. Of course by then it was too late. I am going to try having some extra padding put in the seat before I try to sell it. The upolstery guy said he could fix the problem, but would have to change the way the seat bottom is made and make a new cover. In order for the seats to match, I will have to have all of them replaced.

You will likely loose more than $2000 in Depreciation and Fees, Look into the upper levels of Sparco and Recaro. They make seats in several sizes.. Leather, color matched.

[sranger]

Here is the deal on my seat troubles.

The foam that the upholstery shop added made the seat bottom too hard so I removed most of it. The main problem I am having is directly related to the rolled edge seam that runs down the middle of the side bolsters in the seat bottom. I slipped a strip of poster board in between my hip and the seat on a drive to work. You could see the impression of the seam in the poster board (it is that hard!). This confirmed why it was making my hips and the back of my legs so sore.

Last weekend, I decided to take the seat bottom completely apart to see if I could do anything to help the situation. Due to some wiring, I was not able to completely remove it. However, I was able to pull the cover off both sides of the seat bottom. You could easily see the impression of the seam in the foam in the side bolsters of the seat. It is obviously putting a lot of pressure on the foam when I sit in the seat. I decided to cut a groove in the foam with a razor knife so that the seam would be directly over the groove when I put the cover back on. I cut a groove about ½” wide and about ¼” deep. This allows the seam to presses into the groove and not put so much pressure on my hip and legs. My car has heated seats, but fortunately for me, the heating element does not extend on to the side bolsters so cutting the groove did not affect the seat heating elements.

So far this modification seems to have worked well. I drove the vehicle for about 6hr last Thursday and the seam did not bother me much. There was one place in the seat that still bothered me a little and I removed the cover on that side and made the groove a little wider yesterday. It was more comfortable after I put it back together. I think this modification is going to completely solve my problem.

It is a shame that Mazda did not take my complaint seriously. This groove could be made into the mold used to form the seat cushion. It does not alter the appearance of the seat in anyway. A smaller person would never notice that the groove was there and a larger person, like me, would certainly find it to be more comfortable. However, they will not even let me speak to anyone at Mazda that might find the information useful.

I was going to take some pictures when I took the seat apart this weekend, but I dropped my camera on the garage floor and several internal parts are now external... :o(

[DeadGeneration]

interesting thread

[AreYouWithMe]

Sorry so many of you are having problems. I have had my CX-9 Touring for about a week and a half and really like it. Some of the things people dislike and things I like, i.e. the center console.

As far as seating, it comes down to your personal preference. Sorry it doesn't suit you. The seat was one of the things I really like (I'm 5'8 ish 220#)

I had a bad saleswoman too but she was their "internet" person. All I needed her for was pricing and to sign papers. We was pretty much useless for the demo and answering questions. The car sold itself.

I realize the CX-9 is not for everyone. But it sure is for me.

[jaydrouin]

I do not care wether or not you believe me. I know that it is very uncomfortable to me! That is all I can base my opinion on. I honestly find it hard to believe that other people my size would find this seat comfortable on a long trip. I am begining to wonder if somthing is simply made wrong in my seat.

I asked my dealer to take a look and see if somthing it actually wrong with the way the seat is constructed and they refused to do so. I called the local Mazda Rep and he also refused to even take a look.

Until I find some solution to or reason for the problem, I stand my my Warning to anyone who is larger than average. If all seats are made the way Mine is, I know that other people my size will find it uncomfortable...

if you are the only one who has a complaint maybe it is you/ body type longer legs /torso? No one seat will fit eveyone! Mazda is great but you can't manufacture anything that works for everyone...By the way there is money available to you at the time of purchase for anyone under 4'10" or over 6'3" for modification of seats as well as handicapped and "plus sizes" you should have done more reaserch!! Or if you were not as pleasant to the dealership personal (which is more likely than not) It is not their responsibility to go the extra mile for you/ Did you pinch one too many pennies?

[clarko]

Glad to see you finally found a cheaper solution(thought)

Now enjoy your CX9 for what it is(drive)

[P5w3kids]

Now that seats have airbags in them, it's not so simple to swap in a different pair.

[Mazda3]

sranger hasn't been here in over 7 months, you guys are beating a dead horse.

[Foolish]

you guys are beating a dead horse.

Well, how else are they going to make comfortable seats out of it?

[clarko]

sranger hasn't been here in over 7 months, you guys are beating a dead horse.



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