1 Change Almost assured for 08 Speed3.

[sierra248]

I believe 08 is when Mandatory Tire Pressure Monitoring will be, well mandatory. The only thing holding me back from going today or for past month is I want to

A. Read an actual test drive of an 08 WRX. (Looks are very low on my list of priorities in a car, but that turd better be very, very good if they plan on getting me to buy over a speed3)

2. See what changes are available on the 08 Speed3, I sold my harley almost a month ago and got money burning a hole in my pocket and can't wait to get a new car, but that damn engine falling out thing is scary. I'm just hoping they fix the engine mount and also maybe reprogram to make better power to redline. Also a better IPOD integration is becoming available even on some really crap cars and I'd like to see a good IPOD integration for 08(99% sure it wont happen) Also I'd like to see a Charcoal Grey Speed3 option, whit I know allot of people want to, I'd like white to if there weren't som many black plastic parts that kinda scream ricer a little, thats why I think Black is the sleeper color for the speed3, even though I live in FLA(Stupid hot though)
Tom

[dread]

All speed 3's already have tpms. I don't think there will be any changes. I am sure the motor mount problems will be remedied. I am shitting my pants right now hoping my motor doesn't fall out.

[nonopr]

Not all Mazdaspeed 3 has TPMS.. It is an option....

All speed 3's already have tpms. I don't think there will be any changes. I am sure the motor mount problems will be remedied. I am shitting my pants right now hoping my motor doesn't fall out.

[sierra248]

My Bad, Didn't know it was available. I think its mandated for all cars under 10,000 lbs this year 08. Is it an option or does it come with the GT package?

[clos561]

where does it say that there will be a 08 speed3?

[knowledge007]

What he meant was that it will be mandatory for all car manufactures in the US to apply a TPMS. This has been in the works for a couple years now. I hope it eventually gets passed as this is a nice safety precaution. Although alot of manufactures are already applying a TPMS, some manufactures still hold this as an option as NONOPR stated.

[clos561]

yea i agree..the sensors are defintiely good and they save alot of money with rims like ours that will shread the inside if we ride with low pressure...

[sierra248]

Mazda North America has confirmed the 08 Mazdaspeed will be available:
Hello Tom,

Thank you for contacting Mazda.

The MAZDASPEED3 for 2008 should be available around August 2007. They will only be available at MAZDASPEED certified dealerships.

Regards,

Jeff D.
Specialist, Customer Assistance E- Business

I just sent them another e-mail to see if they have the changes for 08, I'll post if they know yet.

[clos561]

proly better motor mounts

[dread]

TPMS is not an option on the ms3 in the U.S. I would not have gotten it, if it was.

[knowledge007]

well sorry to say dread thats pretty stupid that you would have opted out for the TPMS. It has saved me 4 times already...

[lokalmotive]

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=MS3

All Speed3's have the TPMS. I work at a Mazda dealership and drive a Black Mica Speed3 Sport with it. Check the link and scroll to safety and security on the features and specs page and you will see that the TPMS is marked standard for both the Sport and Grand Touring.

[dread]

well sorry to say dread thats pretty stupid that you would have opted out for the TPMS. It has saved me 4 times already...

Its not stupid if you check your tire pressure. I don't like it because it adds to the price of changing your tires and it makes it a pia to get aftermarket rims. Then you have to have that icon illuminated on the dash if you don't switch out the sensors to your new rims.

[clos561]

Its not stupid if you check your tire pressure. I don't like it because it adds to the price of changing your tires and it makes it a pia to get aftermarket rims. Then you have to have that icon illuminated on the dash if you don't switch out the sensors to your new rims.
why wouldnt u transfer them to new rims? and who really wants to chekc there tires every time u go drive? and if u get a nail while ur driving you wont notice untill the inside o ur tire is shread to pieces

[dcomiskey]

Dread, your car does have it. All MS3s have them. If you didn't the warning light on your console would be flashing every time you started the car.

[IrishMidak]

Its not stupid if you check your tire pressure. I don't like it because it adds to the price of changing your tires and it makes it a pia to get aftermarket rims. Then you have to have that icon illuminated on the dash if you don't switch out the sensors to your new rims.

Well, I have it on my U.S. Speed3 and all winter long, while I rocked 16's on snows, that little yellow light was solid and did not bother me in the least.

[hashboogie]

Canadian MS3's don't get the TPMS option. =(

[sierra248]

How does the TPMS work on the speed3? How many pounds low before the light comes on?

Tom

[MX6toMS3]

Can someone point to me where there are statements about motor mount failures? I always hear about the motor mounts in every thread, but I don't know what the problem is.
And if it's such a common problem, how come there hasn't been a recall for it?

[sierra248]

Trust me every person with a speed3 is wondering the same thing. It really seems like a common problem on a car that was only 5000 cars to america and I'm sure there are at least 20 failiures so far I've read about, which even 20 is allot considering if it were an accord that would be hundreds, maybe thouands of cars, percentage wise anyway.(just a guess) I have had the money for this car for over a month now, since I sold my harley, and I'm waiting on 2 things.

1. to read at least one reputable magazine article on the 08 wrx, though I hate the way it looks so bad it better be a new breed of great car to sway me from the speed3, plus I think it may be a couple grand more., which is fine if I think its money well spent.

2. See what the changes to the speed3 for 08 are. Even if they just would do a TSB on the motor mount for the 07, I would prob go tommorrow ànd get mine. I'm pretty sold on the speed3, but if evertime I hit a big pothole or shift hard or whatnot I don't want to have to worry bout the engine falling out..

I'm not dogging the car at all. If they would release the changes for the 08's now and there were no changes or changes I don't care about id go get an 07.
This weekend. Its a small. Percentage and to be honest with you if the new WRX isn't what I consider a better car ill prob risk it with the motor mount. Ill just have to get a good torque wrench and allot of loctite and check it at oil change intervals.
Tom

[Hikaru9]

Can someone point to me where there are statements about motor mount failures? I always hear about the motor mounts in every thread, but I don't know what the problem is.
And if it's such a common problem, how come there hasn't been a recall for it?

It is not a common problem. It's just that some people blow things way out of proportion as if all MS3 will have their engine fall out at any given moment. Keep in mind that the forum members here represent a small fraction of the entire Mazda community; moreover, the people having those motor mount problems amount to a tiny percentage of this forum. ^_^ Indeed, there would have been a recall if it were such a widespread case.

[lokalmotive]

Can someone point to me where there are statements about motor mount failures? I always hear about the motor mounts in every thread, but I don't know what the problem is.
And if it's such a common problem, how come there hasn't been a recall for it?


Thread jack?????

[MX6toMS3]

It is not a common problem. It's just that some people blow things way out of proportion as if all MS3 will have their engine fall out at any given moment. Keep in mind that the forum members here represent a small fraction of the entire Mazda community; moreover, the people having those motor mount problems amount to a tiny percentage of this forum. ^_^ Indeed, there would have been a recall if it were such a widespread case.

I like you.
That's pretty much the conclusion I was coming to, considering there's always a dramatic tone about it but never facts behind it. I've learned to only trust the facts.
Plus I'm not worried about *gasp* my engine falling out. I have a warranty, and I have insurance. That's what it's there for.


Thread jack?????

If I'm not mistaken many people before me already brought up the motor mounts in reference to being a 'Change almost assured for 08 Speed3'. I would like to know why that is necessary.

[lokalmotive]

If I'm not mistaken many people before me already brought up the motor mounts in reference to being a 'Change almost assured for 08 Speed3'. I would like to know why that is necessary.

People have brought up that fact and I believe that some type of stronger motor mounts will probably be a change for 2008. When I read the post I thought you were just coming in asking where to find info on the subject instead of searching for what you want to know. That would've been considered thread jacking. It was just a misread on my part.

[whitey4311]

Look at some of those whom had failures and then admitt to ussign after market tranny mounts and do other mods that may have contributed to the failure.

They like to say it had nothing to do with the failure and that I am an idiot but then again they are so sure of themselves they run under the car and start unbolting shit before taking it to the dealer then play stupid like it just failed for no reason.

I am not convinced either way that it is a serious honest issue or that its a few dumbasses that are modding shit and creating failures but either way all I know is mine seems fine so far.

[Betelgeuse]

I didn't think much of the tpms as all my other cars never had it, but now that it has alerted a few times for less than optimal pressures, I think it's pretty useful. And yes all speed3s have them. I have a sport as well.

[whitey4311]

The only thing that sucks about TPMS is you cant buy wheel/tire combos and have them sent to you all pre balanced and installed.

[Hikaru9]

The only thing that sucks about TPMS is you cant buy wheel/tire combos and have them sent to you all pre balanced and installed.

I think tirerack offers that service if you buy the TPMS sensors from them. $500? I wish the sensors were cheaper. >_<

[whitey4311]

Well no sense in buying sensors when you already have them so you pretty much have to remount the tires again.

[itzl0l]

Look at some of those whom had failures and then admitt to ussign after market tranny mounts and do other mods that may have contributed to the failure.

They like to say it had nothing to do with the failure and that I am an idiot but then again they are so sure of themselves they run under the car and start unbolting shit before taking it to the dealer then play stupid like it just failed for no reason.

I am not convinced either way that it is a serious honest issue or that its a few dumbasses that are modding shit and creating failures but either way all I know is mine seems fine so far.

1st there is NO aftermarket tranny mount. The mount your thinking of is the lower mount. I think i've only read of 2 people who had tranny mount failures that also had an aftermarket lower mount. One guy took his off the car b/c he didnt want any hassle...not that he was scared. The other guy didnt take his lower mount off and mazda didnt even ask about it....they just fixed the damage.

It doenst matter what mods you do....if u havent touched the tranny mount it shouldnt fail....end of story. There are plenty of other high powered cars out that without this problem....and you somehow think its the owners fault?

Every post i read of yours you come off as some asshole(ghey)

[knowledge007]

1st there is NO aftermarket tranny mount. The mount your thinking of is the lower mount. I think i've only read of 2 people who had tranny mount failures that also had an aftermarket lower mount. One guy took his off the car b/c he didnt want any hassle...not that he was scared. The other guy didnt take his lower mount off and mazda didnt even ask about it....they just fixed the damage.

It doenst matter what mods you do....if u havent touched the tranny mount it shouldnt fail....end of story. There are plenty of other high powered cars out that without this problem....and you somehow think its the owners fault?

Every post i read of yours you come off as some asshole(ghey)



That should tell you something itz...

[rodslinger]

Its not stupid if you check your tire pressure..

That certainly does you a lot of good when you pick up a nail pulling out of the gas station after checking that pressure and getting on the highway for a 200 mile trip.

You might be glad the TPMS let you know your tire went below 28psi while traveling down the highway. Otherwise you may not notice your running on a very slow leaking and nearly flat tire until after you have already done the damage to it.

It has saved me from having to buy two tires after they picked up a nail while driving.

[sierra248]

According to this
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123673724

It seems there are quite a few changes to the 5 for 08, let's hope the 3 gets a few nice changes also.

[MX6toMS3]

According to this
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123673724

It seems there are quite a few changes to the 5 for 08, let's hope the 3 gets a few nice changes also.

The only thing on there that would seem a reasonable improvement for the GT MS3 is the bluetooth. That woulda been cool to have.

[SwampAss]

I think the TPMS is not as much for safety as it is for fuel economy. People riding around on flat/low tires suck up a lot more gas, needlessly.

[knowledge007]

I think the TPMS is not as much for safety as it is for fuel economy. People riding around on flat/low tires suck up a lot more gas, needlessly.

Now how in the hell would the TPMS not be as much safety as is it is for fuel economy??? Come on Swamp you have a head on your shoulders. Pass the J yo...

Lets say your doing 70 on the highway you run over a nail or something strong enough to penetrate the wall of the tire and you have leak. And your traveling a long distance and won't be stopping for while.

Would your rather wait untill you are running on bare rim before you even notice it and maybe get into an accident? Or would you rather be notified immediately that the pressure has dropped a couple of psi?

You tell me Swamp...As I have been in this situation quite a few times.

[clos561]

its definitely for safety not gas...

[lokalmotive]

I see Swamp's point in this to an extent. Although it is a safety feature on the MS3 the TPMS can also help save gas mileage by letting you know that your tire(s) are low. Either way it's a safety feature (to the wallet) considering these damned gas prices now.

[SwampAss]

http://supersmallgallery.com/London/towelie.jpg


I'm on so many cold meds right now I don't know what I am saying.

Upon further review of the NTSB's report on TPMS, I'd like my post about fuel economy stricken from the record. For some reason, I had read that somewhere or saw it in a peyote induced dream. Now back to finding my spirit guide. (hippy)



the gas mileage perk is just a bonus

[WildChild]

I believe you can thank congress, firestone, and the ford explorer for mandatory TPMS sensors.

[SwampAss]

that's the same thing I read.

[blacksheepms3]

1st there is NO aftermarket tranny mount. The mount your thinking of is the lower mount. I think i've only read of 2 people who had tranny mount failures that also had an aftermarket lower mount. One guy took his off the car b/c he didnt want any hassle...not that he was scared. The other guy didnt take his lower mount off and mazda didnt even ask about it....they just fixed the damage.

It doenst matter what mods you do....if u havent touched the tranny mount it shouldnt fail....end of story. There are plenty of other high powered cars out that without this problem....and you somehow think its the owners fault?

Every post i read of yours you come off as some asshole(ghey)


I replaced my rear engine mount, then i broke the one of the side mount bolt, mazda knew i replaced the mount cause i told them, but they repaired it anyway for free.

My engine did not fell off, I drove the car with broken side mount bolt for weeks while still comtemplating to bring it to mazda or not because i was afraid they'll void my warranty for putting in a rear mount. But i finally just brought it in and they replaced it for me anyway.