New GUY MAKING SURE MODS WILL HOLD

[nashm]

I did a lot of searching over the year and finally made some mods. Giving the mods Would 10psi be ok.

-HKS turbo timer
-TurboX MBC
-Greddy Boost gauge
-A/F ratio gauge
-Kartboy shifter / bushings
-Injen muffler *with open cats
-Injen CAI
-Ibach springs
-Coiled clutch line
I changed all the fluids / spark plugs, and the maintance is above satifactory

So from what I have read 10psi is still being on the safe side, just watchout for overheating?

will these mods with 10psi come close to 200whp?

2.) Then should a ION Performance FMIC be my next mod to build up smartly and allow more freedom in the boost levels?

Sorry i piece together all these answers just want to play it smart and ask directly, and get some opinions before I increase the boost.

[Maxxpwr]

i think you'll be okay at 10 psi. just dont go any higher. I would suggest as I always do UNICHIP. its the greatest mod out there for our cars. Im selling my car soon and might be selling mods seperate, so i might have mine for sale soon.

[jersey_emt]

I'd keep the boost under 8psi, especially before the FMIC. Put the FMIC in and 9-10 *should* be OK.

I'm not to clear on your exhaust plans, can you clarify what you are replacing?

[nashm]

O someone kicked my stock exhaust and Mazada wanted $300 for it so I went after market and picked up a injen universal, more for later mods (I want turbo back).

So for now I am running with stock exhaust pipes, which I bored out the cats myself and the injen muffler on there. Not to loud not to quite with some increase in the airflow. Good for now, but mostly a cheap quick fix that looks ok.

So 8psi is the going thread for the increase with my mods. I will look into the Unichip, where can you get it new?
protegegrage was the place i though it was at, but did not see it.

And the FMIC will come in shortly for now I just keep my boost at 8psi fro mthe factory 5psi. I guess I will not notice much change in 3 pounds.

[MSP608]

even though you gutted your cats you havent really opened up the flow that much. the piping is still ridiculously small and especially inbetween the two cats. id suggest keeping it at stock boost until you get either a midpipe or full turboback. since summers right around the corner id also wait until you get that ion fmic. also ditch that lightshow a/f gauge and get a wideband.

just curious, do you have any audio/video of your exhaust? never heard of anyone using and injen muffler, bet it has an interesting sound.

[HiPrsur]

honestly for running 10psi and getting the right power for 10psi i would suggest a full turbo back exhaust, any fmic kit and at the bare minimum a split sec. afc..

for what it sounds like, unichip would be alittle on the high side, expecially since your not lookin for much power out of the car, and for the price of the unichip you should just save up $400 more and get the real deal, like a Microtech or Haltech EMS......

[crashkelly]

I did a lot of searching over the year and finally made some mods. Giving the mods Would 10psi be ok.

-HKS turbo timer
-TurboX MBC
-Greddy Boost gauge
-A/F ratio gauge
-Kartboy shifter / bushings
-Injen muffler *with open cats
-Injen CAI
-Ibach springs
-Coiled clutch line
I changed all the fluids / spark plugs, and the maintance is above satifactory

So from what I have read 10psi is still being on the safe side, just watchout for overheating?

will these mods with 10psi come close to 200whp?

2.) Then should a ION Performance FMIC be my next mod to build up smartly and allow more freedom in the boost levels?

Sorry i piece together all these answers just want to play it smart and ask directly, and get some opinions before I increase the boost.

You wont be anywhere near 200whp with that list of mods....

[Swerny]

No, your car will blow up in 12.24 seconds......

Seriously though, you need a proper turbo back exhaust, upgraded SMIC or FMIC and some kind of EMS (AFC or Unichip) to even consider running 10 PSI on a regular basis.

I would boost 8 or less until then

[nashm]

FMIC, Turbo Back, and A Unichip
3 grand is a lot but I trust you guys have spent more time on this.

I will start with the FMIC (Best suggestion ?) and the Unichip (protegegarage)
I do my own work on the exhaust.... do you think if I had a midpipe made and welded it would be ok to shave a few buck, I know it will not look pretty or is the downpipe going to restrict it anyways?

PS Thanks for all the quick responses, Appreciate it.

[Scott]

I think with those mods at 10psi, you'd be around 165-175 whp.

[Maxxpwr]

even though you gutted your cats you havent really opened up the flow that much. the piping is still ridiculously small and especially inbetween the two cats. id suggest keeping it at stock boost until you get either a midpipe or full turboback.
yes thats true. sorry I was confused about your exhaust situation. anyways with those mods that you listed in the last post. you will be pulling much harder! hard enough to beat some srt4's and other things around the neighborhood. and yes you can get a unichip at protege garage. I would also suggest cross over auto. JDM sam will hook you up if you pm him plus he knows how to tune them.

[MSP608]

yes thats true. sorry I was confused about your exhaust situation. anyways with those mods that you listed in the last post. you will be pulling much harder! hard enough to beat some srt4's and other things around the neighborhood. and yes you can get a unichip at protege garage. I would also suggest cross over auto. JDM sam will hook you up if you pm him plus he knows how to tune them.

no you will NOT beat srt4's. unless youre going up against completely retarded drivers you wont even come close. im not underestimating msp's im being realistic. 145 whp car + maaaybe 20 more with mods vs 215 whp....just aint gonna happen.

[lisevolution]

The SRT-4 is not that fast... I've eaten up at least 5 different ones in various tunes and I only have a 3" custom midpipe back exhaust, AFC, CAI, FMIC w/Relo MAF and I'm running on stock boost. But in terms of the main question of the post, I would avoid 10psi until you do the engine management and at least a upgraded SMIC. You may not need a full FMIC, in retrospect for what I've done with the car I could have just gone that route and been perfectly fine. I bought the hi-boost because I had bigger plans for my MSP that just never got a chance to happen. Too many drivetrain issues with this car to get too crazy with it.

[Kypatrick]

O someone kicked my stock exhaust and Mazada wanted $300 for it so I went after market and picked up a injen universal, more for later mods (I want turbo back).

So for now I am running with stock exhaust pipes, which I bored out the cats myself and the injen muffler on there. Not to loud not to quite with some increase in the airflow. Good for now, but mostly a cheap quick fix that looks ok.
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When you bored your CAts, did u get a CEL ???

[Matrix]

The SRT-4 is not that fast... I've eaten up at least 5 different ones in various tunes and I only have a 3" custom midpipe back exhaust, AFC, CAI, FMIC w/Relo MAF and I'm running on stock boost.

(boom01) I'm impressed.

[Speed3.5]

O someone kicked my stock exhaust and Mazada wanted $300 for it so I went after market and picked up a injen universal, more for later mods (I want turbo back).

So for now I am running with stock exhaust pipes, which I bored out the cats myself and the injen muffler on there. Not to loud not to quite with some increase in the airflow. Good for now, but mostly a cheap quick fix that looks ok.

So 8psi is the going thread for the increase with my mods. I will look into the Unichip, where can you get it new?
protegegrage was the place i though it was at, but did not see it.

And the FMIC will come in shortly for now I just keep my boost at 8psi fro mthe factory 5psi. I guess I will not notice much change in 3 pounds.

i'd give an advise that i should've used my self.
Do things one at a time, ex - get front motor mount, see how the car reacts and such, then get a tubo back exhaust -see how the car reacts and such, then get a FMIC --//--, then get an EMS - wait a bit more on this one as XEDE is has one for MSP's and it has much more feature as well as Greddy Emanage blue(this is tricky but if you don't mind the hassle) then UNICHIP which is plug n play w/ a switch of button (this is up to you), upgrade you're wastegate to an ATP 6psi one which will hold ~8psi but is for sure that will not cheat on you like stock one that has tendency to spike higher,
get a set of 440's injectors as you need them to reach 200 hp goal.
Now there's more mods like gauges, turbo timer etc. that you can add but this order would give you understaning on how the car will change its behavior as upgrades are made, other wize you'll worry if something is wrong if you put them at same time as you're not adjusted to the changes.

Good luck

[PlatinumMSP]

you do not need a fmic for 10psi a smic is more than sufficient, in order to raise your boost safely to 10psi though you will need an ems, like max said i recommend the unichip as the solution, but an afc will do the trick too up to 10psi

[Speed3.5]

you do not need a fmic for 10psi a smic is more than sufficient, in order to raise your boost safely to 10psi though you will need an ems, like max said i recommend the unichip as the solution, but an afc will do the trick too up to 10psi
well depends on how far his going a FMIC is the best choice bc if he changes his mind to get more hp then FMIC is right there for him ;)

[MSP608]

The SRT-4 is not that fast... I've eaten up at least 5 different ones in various tunes and I only have a 3" custom midpipe back exhaust, AFC, CAI, FMIC w/Relo MAF and I'm running on stock boost. But in terms of the main question of the post, I would avoid 10psi until you do the engine management and at least a upgraded SMIC. You may not need a full FMIC, in retrospect for what I've done with the car I could have just gone that route and been perfectly fine. I bought the hi-boost because I had bigger plans for my MSP that just never got a chance to happen. Too many drivetrain issues with this car to get too crazy with it.

congrats, you have alot more mods than what nashm has. frankly he has no mods: opened up cats, and a boost controller...wont do much. plus stock boost for you is now around 7-8 psi bc of your mods. srt-4's are stupid fast, thats why they have no interior, all the money for that car went into the motor. thats also why they can hold 4-500 hp and our msp's cant even make it to 300.

[Speed3.5]

true ^^^^

[PlatinumMSP]

well depends on how far his going a FMIC is the best choice bc if he changes his mind to get more hp then FMIC is right there for him ;)

but if he dosnt boost higher than 10psi with a fmic he will be making less power and gaining turbo lag when compared to a smic setup, i can say this because i myself have run both a fmic and a smic setup with similar configurations

[lisevolution]

congrats, you have alot more mods than what nashm has. frankly he has no mods: opened up cats, and a boost controller...wont do much. plus stock boost for you is now around 7-8 psi bc of your mods. srt-4's are stupid fast, thats why they have no interior, all the money for that car went into the motor. thats also why they can hold 4-500 hp and our msp's cant even make it to 300.

I wasn't comparing my mods to his, If you read my complete post I was commenting on someone else's reply that the SRT-4's are really fast, then I went on to comment about what he should do to his car and even offered insight into some of the things I did that I wouldn't have done in retrospect like getting an FMIC instead of just doing an upgraded SMIC.

In any case, I agree that the SRT-4's pack much more potential for the $$$ than the MSP but I have personally thumped at least 5 of them with my car on a stock block at stock boost. Also even with those mods, my Defi gauge never once went above 6.5 psi...

Again, to refocus on the actual topic of this thread, I agree that you should do things step by step with this car to get a feel for what the different mods do. First thing I'd get if I were you is a full Turbo Back exhaust or at least a midpipe back as that is the single largest performance gain you will see out of any of the mods. Then from there some engine management and either an SMIC or FMIC before you up your boost. Once you have the supporting mods pumping up the pressure to around 9-10 psi should be pretty safe.