Upgrade a Speed3 to Heated Mirrors

[Rotus8]

Unfortunately I have to park my MS3 outside. The result is most mornings my mirrors have a coating of dew on them and I need to see when I get onto the highway. On rare occaisions there is ice too, but this is California. My previous car had heated mirrors and they would clear by the time I get down my road to the hiway. So, I wanted to upgrade. The MS3 has the wiring in the doors already, so all you need is the mirrors assembles themselves. They are wired so they go on and off with the rear defroster. I purchased a kit for about $200 from OnlineMazda.
http://i16.tinypic.com/4lz86dj.jpg

Here's how to install them.

First you need to remove the inner sail panel that has the tweeters in them. They come off pretty easily, just pry with a plastic tool or a screwdriver covered in tape. It is actually better to start nearer the top than is shown in this picture.
http://i13.tinypic.com/4pdlzq0.jpg
Disconnect the two connectors.
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Remove the three screws; hold on to the mirror as it will fall off. Remove the mirror assembly.
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Put the new mirror in place and replace the screws. It is a good idea to install the screws a bit loose until all three are in, then snug them down. Reconnect the mirror connector and tweeter connector and snap the tweeter panel in place. Clean up the mirrors and you are done.

Now, it turns out the kit I got had black mirror shells and my car is Cosmic Blue. I considered leaving the mirrors black.
http://i12.tinypic.com/6foy52v.jpg
But I decided to change them out. First you need to remove the mirror glass. Adjust the mirror so the outside edge is as far out as possible.
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Put your fingers in the crack, grab the end of the mirror and pull. It will disengage three ball joint connectors.
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At the top of the inside of the mirror housing there are two clips holding the shell on. Carefully use a flat blade screwdriver to release the tabs, then pull the shell off. This is the part where it is possible to screw up, like breaking off a tab - take your time and you will be fine. You might have to use a tool to carefully separate the shell at the top - be careful not to scratch the paint. It will come off from the top first, roll it back and the bottom hooks will disengage.
http://i16.tinypic.com/6folf8i.jpg
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Reinstall the shell by engaging the tabs at the bottom and the pushing the top into place. Put the mirror glass back in place by aligning the balls in the housing to the sockets on the back of the glass and pushing. Do the middle first, then the outside, then the bottom.

[BSTD3]

Replacing the mirrors on the Speed3 is identical to the mirrors on the RX-8. I added puddle lamps to my RX-8 and went through the extact steps to remove the mirror and trim cover. Pretty cool!

[bbrich57]

As usual, nice write-up Rotus!! Glad you decided to go mono-chrome and keep the original covers too. I think that looks better... imho. :lol:
Two questions though:
1. As Antoine asks on the other thread, how are the mirror heaters controlled/turned on-off?
2. The clips to release the mirror covers: You state that you can screw up @ this point and they can be broken off. Based on that I am led to assume the these are part of the mirror housing and not the mirror cover. Is this correct?

[Rotus8]

As usual, nice write-up Rotus!! Glad you decided to go mono-chrome and keep the original covers too. I think that looks better... imho. :lol:
Two questions though:
1. As Antoine asks on the other thread, how are the mirror heaters controlled/turned on-off?
2. The clips to release the mirror covers: You state that you can screw up @ this point and they can be broken off. Based on that I am led to assume the these are part of the mirror housing and not the mirror cover. Is this correct?
1. The heated mirrors are controlled by the rear window defroster switch. Mirrors and rear heat together. I edited the intro of the HowTo with this info.
2. The clips are part of the cover and look pretty fragile. You need to pry gently from the top of the clip and then push it out the hole.

[Rainman]

Great write-up Rotus8. I definetly appreciate it. I love the heated mirrors on my MS6 and I'm certain that my wife would love them in the winter on her MS3. I think that I will do this for her during the summer when I have some more time.

R

[Barney]

Geez, the wiring already installed for headed mirrors? Why not put heated mirrors from the factory for a few extra bucks. I live in the middle of the snow belt east of Cleveland and am a truck driver and have learned to love
heated mirrors on the trucks.

[Damian]

I am VERY psyched about this. I'll be putting these in and seat heaters in the fall. Nice write up!

[bbrich57]

See Rotus? I told you a lot of ppl would appreciate this write-up. Nothing but positive responses.

[major error]

I purchased a kit for about $200 from OnlineMazda.
It always feels like I'm pulling teeth when using that site, and I never seem to find exactly what I'm looking for...
Got some part #s for them?

This mod tops the list of things to get done before next winter (along with the dedicated winter wheels.)

EDIT: I just noticed that the mirror assemblies are completely different for the Speed. Mirrors on the standard 3 are hinged to fold in...

[Rotus8]

It always feels like I'm pulling teeth when using that site, and I never seem to find exactly what I'm looking for...
Got some part #s for them?

This mod tops the list of things to get done before next winter (along with the dedicated winter wheels.)

EDIT: I just noticed that the mirror assemblies are completely different for the Speed. Mirrors on the standard 3 are hinged to fold in...
Start here, it's the third item down:
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=AccessoryCatalog&catalogid=4010&siteid=214264&categoryID=78787
I am 99% sure the regular 3 and the speed 3 are the same, but send an inquiry to Jason and he will confirm.

[IrishMidak]

Rotus8: Can you conform that the heating element is in the glass itself? If so, where does it plug in?

major error: The speed mirrors fold in also.

[Craighjr]

Rotus I didn't see any wiring on the glass for the heater elements what gives? Were the mirrors painted balck or plain old black?

[Rotus8]

Rotus8: Can you conform that the heating element is in the glass itself? If so, where does it plug in?

major error: The speed mirrors fold in also.

The heating element on the replacement mirrors on on the back of the glass. The wiring is already in the doors, you just plug it in.

Rotus I didn't see any wiring on the glass for the heater elements what gives? Were the mirrors painted balck or plain old black?

Wiring is already connected up inside. The mirror shells were painted a nice black with sparkly stuff in it. I considered using them, but decided to switch for my CB ones.

[Rivman]

Xcellent 'how-to' Rotus8 !
Already have heated mirrors - now know how it all fits together.
One less trip to the dealer if they crap out ! (thumb)

[major error]

pulled the trigger on my own part order today...

Got some motivation to get them in quickly since we just had our first frost this morning >.<

[IrishMidak]

The heating element on the replacement mirrors on on the back of the glass. The wiring is already in the doors, you just plug it in.



Wiring is already connected up inside. The mirror shells were painted a nice black with sparkly stuff in it. I considered using them, but decided to switch for my CB ones.

If I understand correctly, if I just buy the glass, I need to run my own wires to the door. I dont suppose you got pics of the wiring harness and the back of the glass so I know what part of the harness wires up to what part of the glass.

[Rotus8]

If I understand correctly, if I just buy the glass, I need to run my own wires to the door. I dont suppose you got pics of the wiring harness and the back of the glass so I know what part of the harness wires up to what part of the glass.
I tried that. I bought just the glass, but the problem is the connectors. The connector is a weirdo and I was unable to find the pins, plus it's a bi**h to get the wires threaded through the folding joint. It is theoretically possible, but not worth it I think. If you want to think harder about it, pull off one of your mirrors and check out the insides - there are already wires for the little motors and you can evaluate how hard it will be to add wires.

[IrishMidak]

I tried that. I bought just the glass, but the problem is the connectors. The connector is a weirdo and I was unable to find the pins, plus it's a bi**h to get the wires threaded through the folding joint. It is theoretically possible, but not worth it I think. If you want to think harder about it, pull off one of your mirrors and check out the insides - there are already wires for the little motors and you can evaluate how hard it will be to add wires.

Well, I got a body shop mechanic that is pretty good with that kind of stuff. I just thought too, the wiring harness could be tested with a simple current tester to see where to hook up to the harness.

Do you still have the glass and want to sell it?

[Rotus8]

Well, I got a body shop mechanic that is pretty good with that kind of stuff. I just thought too, the wiring harness could be tested with a simple current tester to see where to hook up to the harness.

Do you still have the glass and want to sell it?
Nope. I sent the glass back when I purchased the full kit. The problem is not finding out where to hook it up, but the actual stringing the wires through the hinge in the mirror, and then finding the pins to put in the connector. If you are paying mechanic's rates, you will probably be better off buying the full mirrors 'cause it will either take significant time, or end up cobbled together. My $.02.

[redspeed3tk]

they just come raw plastic or it could be primed most mirrors come like that then a body shop paints them to match car

[IrishMidak]

Nope. I sent the glass back when I purchased the full kit. The problem is not finding out where to hook it up, but the actual stringing the wires through the hinge in the mirror, and then finding the pins to put in the connector. If you are paying mechanic's rates, you will probably be better off buying the full mirrors 'cause it will either take significant time, or end up cobbled together. My $.02.

Family biz so the rates will be $0. (alright)

[Rotus8]

Family biz so the rates will be $0. (alright)
That helps a lot. I still suggest taking the stock mirrors off and looking inside before ordering any parts. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

[Jesse MS3GT]

these things should NEVER be driven in snow! These mirrors shouldnt be an option :(

[Damian]

these things should NEVER be driven in snow! These mirrors shouldnt be an option :(

Please. It's an econobox. A FAST econobox, but this isn't a Ferrari.

[major error]

(mswerd)

[mx119racer]

Do you know if this is the same for Mazda 3s???

[Rotus8]

Do you know if this is the same for Mazda 3s???
I would be almost certain if it is an '07. Before that I don't know. Try sending Jason a note and he will know. Mazdapart@gmail.com

[icspots]

Do you know if this is the same for Mazda 3s???

They're the same on both the MS3 and the regular Mz3, just different paint codes depending on your color. There's a great walkthrough on adding the heated mirrors with just the glass portion and how to run the wiring on mazda 3 forums by billm (I think he's a member here too). It's a little more involved than the full mirror replacement, but it will only cost you about $85 instead of $200.

I know onlinemazdaparts is a little difficult to work your way around, but Jason's also really good about ordering stuff over the phone, or via e-mail. I actually ordered a new rear wiper while I was still in Guatemala via e-mail. It was waiting for me when I got home.

It's kind of odd that he sent you black mirrors. I brought this mod idea to him a year or so ago (maybe more now) and the prices he was giving then were for factory color-matched mirrors so there wouldn't be the need to switch the covers. He actually had a set of lava orange ones in (those were the sample ones he ordered initially), but I just didn't have the cash for them. :( My next mod is either going to be these or window tint..... haven't decided which yet.

[major error]

well, this was an amazingly simple swap. I think it took maybe 30min tops.

The only places I would elaborate are on the sail panel and the shell swap:

The sail panel has a pop-connector centered just above the tweeter. In the 3rd picture, you can see the 2 hinge-points that hold the bottom in. Pop it off from the top as suggested, and the rest kind of hinges off...

The shells actually have 3 pressure-clips. The third is in the bottom/outer corner. Start with it first (you can use your finger to dislodge it), then work your way to the top/innermost clip. I didn't have to use much effort.... holding the lower corner out a touch while turning a key in the space between the clip & housing was enough.
I think there's more chance of snapping the hinge clips on the bottom if you aren't careful reinstalling.

Decidedly good timing on the arrival of these parts....the white stuff made a cameo appearance today >.<

[fullout83]

Can anyone confirm the fact that, or have also heard that the canadian model has come with heated mirriors already installed?

[MM3Canuck]

Can anyone confirm the fact that, or have also heard that the canadian model has come with heated mirriors already installed?

Yes they are factory installed and work with the rear defrost. I know 150% on the GT models...not sure about the reg 3's however.

[chaos4]

Jeeez, from one old fart to another: Thanks Rotus, ya just cost me $210!!

[IrishMidak]

these things should NEVER be driven in snow! These mirrors shouldnt be an option :(

I did plenty of snow driving in mine already and will possibly do more this weekend when I go upstate. Of course, the stock wheels are off and I got my 16's with snows on.

[Silver Ecstasy]

I know i'm reviving this from the dead, but I have a few questions.

I found a set on ebay for $56 a piece, but for some reason the base doesn't look the same.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAZDA-3-04-05-06-SIDE-VIEW-DOOR-POWER-HEATED-MIRROR-RH_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1416Q7c39Q3a1Q 7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec 0Q2em14QQhashZitem140272924121QQitemZ140272924121


Also, I noticed Irish said he ran 16's in the snow. Which wheels did you use?

[martin_nj]

i just ordered the $280 color matched kit from onlinemazda - jason was helpful
shipping was 6.50 but he said he won't have them in stock until after xmas...

stupid "GT" package and no heated mirrors =\

[MSP-4-ME]

What are the part numbers for the whole assembly?

[martink]

I upgraded mine the hard way last week (new wiring and all) & broke a ball putting the glass back in. You know you can help me: You bought the whole assembly (you're smarter than me-- much easier install) and now the old mirrors are sitting around doing nothing. Sell one to me?

I need the driver's side motor assy. Local to Baltimore? I'll pick it up. I have an '08-- probably can do with any year parts...

Thanks

Martin

[Rotus8]

I upgraded mine the hard way last week (new wiring and all) & broke a ball putting the glass back in. You know you can help me: You bought the whole assembly (you're smarter than me-- much easier install) and now the old mirrors are sitting around doing nothing. Sell one to me?

I need the driver's side motor assy. Local to Baltimore? I'll pick it up. I have an '08-- probably can do with any year parts...

Thanks

Martin
I have a set in my shed. PM me if you want some parts.

[MSP-4-ME]

I think I found the part numbers for the heated mirror assemblies. Can anyone confirm?

Left = BP8M-69-180K-08
Right = BP8M-69-120K-08

[Gmac03]

Trademotion shows there kit as BP8M-Kit. And that is for both mirrors. I would assume that you're on the right track.

I wish I stumbled on this thread months ago. This is an absolute must.

Gmac

[MSP-4-ME]

Bump. Can anyone confirm the part numbers?

[Rotus8]

Bump. Can anyone confirm the part numbers?
Left side is BP8M0-69-180K08
Right side is BP8M-69-120J08

[MSP-4-ME]

Left side is BP8M0-69-180K08
Right side is BP8M-69-120J08

Rotus, Are you sure about the left side part number? It seems to have a extra "0" in the first set of numbers.

Is that correct?

[Rotus8]

Rotus, Are you sure about the left side part number? It seems to have a extra "0" in the first set of numbers.

Is that correct?
Oops, fat fingers.
Left side is BP8M-69-180K08
Right side is BP8M-69-120J08

These were the numbers on the side of the boxes my mirrors came in.