Any cyclists?

[farmurr]

I started road cycling 2 years ago when I bought an OCR. Since then, I've upgraded and recently purchased an 09 Trek Madone 5.2 (hump).

I'm looking forward to a few long events this year, such as the Ride to Conquer Cancer (2 day 200km), Ride for Heart (75 km) and a few others.

Mmm it's so purrdy.

[Fear]

dang. i need pics of the bike i just tossed together. real nice free agent bmx...

You race?

[xxxmonoxidechil]

not at all. we ride through state parks, lol. and just around when we can on the street. have had a few days this past week where we could go out.... then it snowed again.

just put together a nice aluminum trek Ti1 with my dood. still has the original like candy green pearl. gangster.. lol. it was a nice find on his part. he is probably a member here actually. he own's a KL swapped mx3.

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/27/l_50c8d82c0e004527b3f39f5dd7f54202.jpg

[Fear]

Lol, missing a brake cable and lever much?

[xxxmonoxidechil]

^
that was when we were building it. thats the one thing he needed. i also needed a new lever for mine. and the local shop had a nice snafu i picked up.


this is mine.

06 free agent
profile 3 piece crank. snafu pedals, snafu c lever, poverty stem, poverty seat. pretty basic, but a real nice cruiser/abuser

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/xxxmonoxidechild/bike002.jpg

[Fear]

Lol, Snafu levers are awful. If you're gonna go to a meet soon, I'll give you a sealed bearing TRP lever I have laying around.

[mhrebin]

ill have to get pics posted of my bmx bike and road bike up when i get home.

[Rosshole]

Lol, Snafu levers are awful. If you're gonna go to a meet soon, I'll give you a sealed bearing TRP lever I have laying around.

Dick.

[iracemine]

no. the c levers from snafu are shit. there is better stuff out there for less $.

[jmv]

so, i've been riding a friends bike around some, and i kind of want to get my own.

Can anyone give me suggestions for a trail/road bike for between $100 and $200?? I really have no idea where to start looking or if i can get much of a bike for that much. Is it possible to buy a cheaper bike and then modify it to be decent over time?

[Fear]

Decent trail bike = Rockhopper
Decent Road bike = Defy 2

Neither are that cheap. Actually, most quality adult bikes barely start at 400 bucks these days (Hardrock).

[Rosshole]

yeah, it is hard to even get an entry level decent bike in that price range.

[kickniteasy]

so, i've been riding a friends bike around some, and i kind of want to get my own.

Can anyone give me suggestions for a trail/road bike for between $100 and $200?? I really have no idea where to start looking or if i can get much of a bike for that much. Is it possible to buy a cheaper bike and then modify it to be decent over time?

Like they said, you can't even get something decent USED in that price range. That's not us being "elitest" or anything either. Go to Target/Walmart, even their crappy off the shelf bikes are more than that.

[Rosshole]

Like they said, you can't even get something decent USED in that price range. That's not us being "elitest" or anything either. Go to Target/Walmart, even their crappy off the shelf bikes are more than that.

werd... We aren't trying to come off snobby at all, but bikes have been steadily increasing in price as of lately.

[jmv]

hmmm... that sucks. I think a friend got one from walmart for like $140, but i guess its not very good.

I dunno if it would be worth it to get one of those or not, because i don't think i'll be able to afford much more.

[coyfish]

Your best bet is to probably hit up ebay. Im a triathlete and I got my tri bike for 1 grand instead of 4 grand for a new one. Bikes aren't cheap.

[jred321]

forge makes good bang/buck bikes but you have to do some assembly and tweaking yourself. nothing big though. available at target online

[Rosshole]

Your best bet is to probably hit up ebay. Im a triathlete and I got my tri bike for 1 grand instead of 4 grand for a new one. Bikes aren't cheap.

How's your season going? Have you done any races yet?

[jmv]

forge makes good bang/buck bikes but you have to do some assembly and tweaking yourself. nothing big though. available at target online

thanks, thats helpful.

what size bike do i need if i'm 5'11"??

[Rosshole]

thanks, thats helpful.

what size bike do i need if i'm 5'11"??

that can vary... what is your inseam?

[coyfish]

How's your season going? Have you done any races yet?

I live in FL so its always tri season :). Im new to the sport but i did my last olympic distance a month ago. Ran a 1:57 which is my best time so far. My next tri (5th one) is the disney tri in september. Should be a fun one. These triathlons are so damn expensive though its ridiculous. The st anthony's was 200 bucks. Granted its one of the biggest races all year but still.

[kylefire5]

08 Cannondale F3
09 Orbea San Remo

Love it, bout to put a rack on the car.

[Rosshole]

I live in FL so its always tri season :). Im new to the sport but i did my last olympic distance a month ago. Ran a 1:57 which is my best time so far. My next tri (5th one) is the disney tri in september. Should be a fun one. These triathlons are so damn expensive though its ridiculous. The st anthony's was 200 bucks. Granted its one of the biggest races all year but still.

You did a 1:57 Oly???

anything under 2 hours is amazing!

was it a .9 mile swim/25 mile bike/6.2 mile run?

Ironman WI cost $551 to register for. It's all relative.

[Rosshole]

08 Cannondale F3
09 Orbea San Remo

Love it, bout to put a rack on the car.

I put a 1 1/4 hitch on the 6 and got a fork mount hitch rack. It works awesome.

[coyfish]

You did a 1:57 Oly???

anything under 2 hours is amazing!

was it a .9 mile swim/25 mile bike/6.2 mile run?

Ironman WI cost $551 to register for. It's all relative.

1.5K swim, 40K bike, 10K run is what it was. I had a bet with my uncle (avid triathlete) that I could beat him. I was first out of the water even though I suck at swimming and we were literally right next to each other on the bike. When the run came around he smoked me though. I was running prob 7:30 min mile pace and he was 7 min pace. Crazy stuff. He finished at 1:53 I think.

[Rosshole]

wow... that's awesome!

[jred321]

thanks, thats helpful.

what size bike do i need if i'm 5'11"??


that can vary... what is your inseam?
true but probably a large or a 19" is a good place to start. that's the other bad part of ordering vs buying one at the store. all bikes will fit different and the only way to tell which one really fits is to ride it which is tough to do over the internet

[jmv]

if i wear 32x30/31 jeans, does that mean my inseam is 30/31??

also, what do you guys think of say, this (http://fisherbikes.com/bike/model/mako) bike vs something like the forge (http://www.target.com/Forge-Sawback-Hard-Tail-Mountain-Bike/dp/B000LWH8KC/sr=1-1/qid=1245359504/ref=sr_1_1/189-9503483-2950645?ie=UTF8&frombrowse=0&index=target&rh=k%3Aforge&page=1) brand that jred mentioned?? It lists specs on things and types of hardware but i have no idea what any of them mean so its hard to say which is better...

[Rosshole]

I like the Gary Fisher personally

[jred321]

the forge has better specs. plus you'll be able to get a % off if you just google "target coupons." however the gary fisher gets you a full assembly, your first tune up, and a bike shop to go to for your future needs.

i had a forge for a month or two and then gave it to my gf when i upgraded. she's been riding it for around a year and a half. no real problems yet. i've had to adjust things a few times but that's expected. definitely a good bike for the price

[sumixali]

im not a cyclist but i work for jittery joe's and some of my co workers just catted up to 2!
i dont know much but wanna learn more!!
and our car club may getting a sponsorship from JJ so an awareness meet will be put into place for the drivers to really understand what its like when we buzz a cyclist on the side of the road!

let me know what you think or what i can implement into this whole thing!
thanks

[judman13]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2425/3709238750_f4ca3560cd_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2602/3709244544_dfbe68778b_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2604/3708433361_4975b2a960_b.jpg

So effin happy with these shoes!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3520/3741374478_af550a161b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3459/3741383112_54c035e1d7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3461/3740595753_575072f8b1_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3509/3740611031_da9ed2692d_b.jpg

I found this under the strap and thought it to be very very cool
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/3741414850_a36130d54e_b.jpg

[iracemine]

guess you got your shoes today.
p.s. computer is crashing hard.

[Rosshole]

guess you got your shoes today.
p.s. computer is crashing hard.

I didn't hear from you this weekend... what gives?

[ehidle]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RX2uz5fR3dA/SAMv_y9hbeI/AAAAAAAAEEc/YzQpw2P3pTg/s1024/eh-photo0004.jpg
My ride...

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RX2uz5fR3dA/SlxuWn7SvsI/AAAAAAAAI5E/Sw19zZHtMuU/tri.JPG
Me riding in the Philly Tri this year... we won the olympic distance mixed relay... and many alcoholic beverages were consumed thereafter hehe...

[judman13]

I hit a good 5 miles on the trails today.

[MSpeed68]

This is what I have been training on all summer :) 1997 Trek Y5O Carbon Fiber
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/wesbb23/DSC02548.jpg

[Rosshole]

Sweet, what type of trails do you ride?

[iracemine]

fucking solid ten!!!!!!!

thanks for keeping a classic look so good!

[Rosshole]

patrick just got a hardon.

[ehidle]

I want that Pepsi machine... that's a classic!

[Foolish]

The Y-5-0. OLD SCHOOL!!

Nice.

[judman13]

From today:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2527/4079160088_a3996feb7c_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2676/4079160082_b4c0c6d9f4_o.jpg

[prof15]

is that a mtbike ride right?

man this thread is dead!!

[judman13]

Yeah it is a mtb ride.

[jred321]

man this thread is dead!!
it's winter

[Rosshole]

it's winter

yup... bike is collecting dust right now...

[judman13]

I agree. I tried to ride in 40* 15 mph wind and even in the woods it was brutal. I will wait until it warms up for now.

[chowhoundMSP]

Any of you guys change your wheel bearings yourself?

My fronts are shot, and I contemplating doing it myself.

[Rosshole]

I have a guy that does that shizzle for me.

[jred321]

i tried to ride with a light covering of snow once. snow on top of new england rocks does not make for a very fun ride

[coyfish]

Even in FL its too cold for biking. It would be bearable but the wind makes it so hard / nasty.

[iracemine]

I have a guy that does that shizzle for me.

hello (hi)

[judman13]

Went out and hit some sweet jumps with a friend and my camera. =)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4377525391_895603afd8_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4378285022_3d0401130b_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4377542211_bf6b60c39d_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2702/4378277406_0f4a8262d1_b.jpg

Then my friend decided he wanted to hit a puddle.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4377546301_10a35505ae_b.jpg

[judman13]

And a video treat lol

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29300398@N06/4377593009/

[MSpeed68]

Sweet pics! Thanks for the comments. My bike is hanging in my shop til it gets over 50* then its back to riding!

[coyfish]

Biked 30 miles and ran 4 interval miles. First time riding in a couple months. Nearly died. Was only averaging about 18 mph which is sad /:

[ridenfish39]

It's never too cold to ride! I did two laps of Wissahickon park last year, when I started it was 8 degrees.
I have been spending way too much time on my rollers this year though, cold doesn't bother me but snow and ice covered trails and roads suck. My new Niner is built and it is collecting dust, along with 3 other bikes I have. My beater road bike is getting all the miles.

[coyfish]

It's never too cold to ride! I did two laps of Wissahickon park last year, when I started it was 8 degrees.
I have been spending way too much time on my rollers this year though, cold doesn't bother me but snow and ice covered trails and roads suck. My new Niner is built and it is collecting dust, along with 3 other bikes I have. My beater road bike is getting all the miles.

I decided to ride one day when it was cold. Popped a tire and ended up walking about 10 miles carrying my bike. Still havne't learned my lesson. I don't bike with a tire kit.

[iracemine]

yeah me neither, but I always ride with people who do (lol2)

[reut1]

im getting the itch to buy a new bike, originally was going to buy a much lighter fork and paint this
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v12/66/55/48800484/n48800484_30007853_4163.jpg

but now im thinking of replacing it and another bike with the one below. just not sure if i want to spend that much money right now
http://www.ridemonkey.com/classifieds/cat-2/ad-12438/?catid=searchresults&searchid=77024

[iracemine]

keep your bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[reut1]

and here is my primary ride
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/lilrootrx7/DSC01973.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/lilrootrx7/DSC01984.jpg

[kickniteasy]

what type of riding do you do with it?

[jred321]

the kind that leaves you with a really sore groin afterwards



that's a trials bike. trials is crazy stuff like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYIKfEU8yl8

[reut1]

i wish i had even a little of the talent that danny mac has. or many of the other amazing trials riders.

[ridenfish39]

A few pics of some of my rides........I live in Philadelphia and race expert mountain bike. Anyone else from the area?

The top of Whiteface Mtn in the Adirondaks, an eight mile climb that gains about 3700'
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4361203138_84a36d025c_b.jpg
Racing at the Stoopid 50, an awesome 50 mile mountain bike race
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/4129478574_43e766071b_o.jpg
My herd, the Dos is gone now, replaced by an Air Nine
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4361203954_781949244a.jpg

[iracemine]

welcome to the forums man. is that a cruz I see?

[Rosshole]

that is a nice collection that you have there...

This guy is a little envious, I still need to find some money to put together a proper road bike.

[ridenfish39]

welcome to the forums man. is that a cruz I see?
You mean Santa Cruz??? I had a santa Cruz Heckler and a Bullit years back.
I have a System 6, Trek 5200 with Power Tap, Niner Air Nine, Niner One Nine, and Cannondale Tim Johnson cross bike.

[spinnergist]

Hey there, has anybody been able to install a trailer hitch (for a bike rack) on their 2010 Mazdaspeed 3? I'm looking online for a hitch and about the only one I can find for a 3 (Curt 11383) says it WILL NOT fit on the speed 3.

[Rosshole]

call uhaul and see if they make one... someone has to.

[ridenfish39]

Hey there, has anybody been able to install a trailer hitch (for a bike rack) on their 2010 Mazdaspeed 3? I'm looking online for a hitch and about the only one I can find for a 3 (Curt 11383) says it WILL NOT fit on the speed 3.

It fits, I have it on my 2010 MS3. I wont be home the rest of the weekend, I will post pics of it Monday. It's a tight fit and you will need a helping hand to install it. I got mine from Rock Auto btw.

[ridenfish39]

Here it is with the rack plugged in. It is a tight fit but it works perfect! Make sure to have two sets of hands before you install it. I ground the tow chain hooks off after I took this pic, it looks a lot cleaner.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2495/4234891598_8df649c68f_b.jpg

[xxxmonoxidechil]

here's my newest project. its a 2000 STANDARD STA500. :)
21" frame. true temper OX platinum. very very nice frame. came with the matching standard bash fork also.

http://images.craigslist.org/3na3k13m15O45Pb5R8a2o309c4ec9339a1d5d.jpg


next pay check, im sending it out to get powder-coated a matte black.

[chowhoundMSP]

Any of you guys change your wheel bearings yourself?

My fronts are shot, and I contemplating doing it myself.

Finally took apart the front hub, and one side of it is a mess. Bearings, cups, and cones are all pitted. Which would explain the slight grinding I heard when spinning the front wheel. Looks like I have to replace the whole hub. :mad:

[iracemine]

you only need to replace hub if the races of the hubs are pitted (cones are replaceable). or if the wheel is a POS that you should be ashamed to own.

[Foolish]

Decided to sell my TCR and my Rockhopper-based neighborhood beater, and build up a cyclocross frame to replace them both! Wife approved plan, as I may net a $$ gain, and will have one less bike when I'm done! :-)

[mckraut]

So I'm looking to getting into some casual riding and light trails. Found what appears to be a good deal on REI's website. Total shipped to my local store would be about $420 for a 2009 Diamondback Response Sport. I've read some pretty good things about these entry level bikes, but wanted to see what my fellow Mazda people thought.

http://www.rei.com/product/793385#

[iracemine]

absolute shit bikes. crap parts, crap materials, crap welds, crap alignment, flex's like crap, and heavy as crap.

[Rosshole]

absolute shit bikes. crap parts, crap materials, crap welds, crap alignment, flex's like crap, and heavy as crap.

Patrick could be classified as a bike snob... so don't worry too much, but keep this in mind, you do get what you pay for?

[mckraut]

Alright, any suggestions for a sub $500 hard tail mountain bike for the casual rider?

[jred321]

would you be comfortable assembling and adjusting it yourself? if so mail order will be your best bang for buck option. the downside being self assembly (it comes pretty assembled but needs fine tuning) and you can't try the fit before buying. either http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mountain_bikes.htm or http://www.target.com/Men%E2%80%99s-Forge-Sawback-Mountain-Dirt/dp/B001RTKDPU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&searchView=grid5&qid=1269535994&frombrowse=0&fromGsearch=true&node=1038576%7C1287991011&keywords=forge&searchSize=30&id=Men%E2%80%99s%20Forge%20Sawback%20Mountain%20Di rt&searchBinNameList=subjectbin%2Ctarget_com_age%2Cta rget_com_gender-bin%2Ctarget_com_character-bin%2Cprice%2Ctarget_com_primary_color-bin%2Ctarget_com_size-bin%2Ctarget_com_brand-bin&searchNodeID=1038576%7C1287991011&searchRank=target104545&sr=1-3&searchPage=1 (also search for a coupon code for target).

scouting out craigslist and visiting local bike shops is also a good idea. basically anything that a chain store sells you'll want to be cautious about. this includes REI (though they have some decent stuff) and Dick's.

[jred321]

i just looked on bikesdirect.com. be cautious there of buying bikes with higher end components that still use the same fork that the lower end component bikes use. really there's not much point in that other than to say you have XYZ components on your bike

[iracemine]

stay off the internet and go to your local bike shop. GOD...

[mckraut]

stay off the internet and go to your local bike shop. GOD...

Thanks for the friendly advice, I really appreciate it. You make someone who hasn't owned a bike in years feel really welcome.

[Ride92]

stay off the internet and go to your local bike shop. GOD...

I second that. Most internet bikes are no name brands that are poorly made with iffy components to keep the price down and you have to assemble yourself with no place to take the bike if there is a problem. I've worked at a bike shop for years and there ARE problems sometimes with new bikes. Most shops offer some sort of plan to handle bike break in periods like cable strecth on the brakes and shifters. I'd check out a Trek, or specialized dealer to get a good bike. Something like the Trek 4300 disc is a decent beginner mountain bike and the Trek 1.2 entry level raod bike has been rated one of the best sub $1000 raod bikes for the past couple of years.

[mckraut]

And sincerely thank you, jred. There's a local shop that I'm planning to take a look at, but they're also salesmen so I'm going in cautiously for that very reason. Because I hardly known anything about recent bikes, I didn't want to get taken for a ride (aha, bike humor).

[o0n8]

Looking into getting into biking, have an old schwinn and was considering making it a single speed because it will shift gears on it's own and not shift when i want it too. had a tune-ep done at the local schwinn shop that it's always gone to and they couldn't figure out why it was doing that. (they did a test ride) and suggested replacing most of the parts. any suggestions?

[iracemine]

Thanks for the friendly advice, I really appreciate it. You make someone who hasn't owned a bike in years feel really welcome.

well you should feel like that for looking at crap bikes while Im sure there is a bike shop struggling to stay in business in your own town.


I second that. Most internet bikes are no name brands that are poorly made with iffy components to keep the price down and you have to assemble yourself with no place to take the bike if there is a problem. I've worked at a bike shop for years and there ARE problems sometimes with new bikes. Most shops offer some sort of plan to handle bike break in periods like cable strecth on the brakes and shifters. I'd check out a Trek, or specialized dealer to get a good bike. Something like the Trek 4300 disc is a decent beginner mountain bike and the Trek 1.2 entry level raod bike has been rated one of the best sub $1000 raod bikes for the past couple of years.

X2 yeah for under 5oo hard tail there is a whole lot to choose from. stick with bike shop brand name bikes no rei or dicks or any sporting good stores. trek, specialized, giant, felt, Raleigh (not so much), make great bikes or at least get yourself a good frame and then as parts break you can upgrade them to what you want then. and just like we do most bike shops offer up free repairs and tune-ups. so you dont have to worry about messing something up and loosing your front teeth when it breaks or falls off.

[iracemine]

And sincerely thank you, jred. There's a local shop that I'm planning to take a look at, but they're also salesmen so I'm going in cautiously for that very reason. Because I hardly known anything about recent bikes, I didn't want to get taken for a ride (aha, bike humor).

ha ha. just tell the guy your new and your not buying today. when people tell me that I make sure I let them ride everything to show them what really makes bikes different, not just that it costs more.

[jred321]

And sincerely thank you, jred. There's a local shop that I'm planning to take a look at, but they're also salesmen so I'm going in cautiously for that very reason. Because I hardly known anything about recent bikes, I didn't want to get taken for a ride (aha, bike humor).

Good bike shops will genuinely try to find a bike for you, not just sell you stuff to make money. Ask around locals for good bike shops

Also in the class of bikes you're looking at check craigslist. People buy entry level bikes, never use them, and get rid of them cheap

[iracemine]

Looking into getting into biking, have an old schwinn and was considering making it a single speed because it will shift gears on it's own and not shift when i want it too. had a tune-ep done at the local schwinn shop that it's always gone to and they couldn't figure out why it was doing that. (they did a test ride) and suggested replacing most of the parts. any suggestions?

most likly needs new chain, cass, and cable to the shifter. cant avoid it, its just like you need tires and brakes on your car.

the free way to make your bike a SS and the smart way if you ask me is; turn the limit screws on the rear der to pin the rear der in the gear you want and then cut the cable and remove the shifter. you can do the same thing to the front der. some times the screws will need to be replaced with longer ones, but not all the time. cost-$0 enjoyment-priceless.

[jred321]

Looking into getting into biking, have an old schwinn and was considering making it a single speed because it will shift gears on it's own and not shift when i want it too. had a tune-ep done at the local schwinn shop that it's always gone to and they couldn't figure out why it was doing that. (they did a test ride) and suggested replacing most of the parts. any suggestions?

I don't think you'll like a ss if you don't have the leg muscle for riding

[o0n8]

Thank you for the advice

[o0n8]

I don't think you'll like a ss if you don't have the leg muscle for riding

it'll be for crusing with the gf when she wants to go for a ride around the neighborhood.

[iracemine]

I don't think you'll like a ss if you don't have the leg muscle for riding

good point. its fine for here in IL ha ha!

[jred321]

it'll be for crusing with the gf when she wants to go for a ride around the neighborhood.

You'll prob be fine then. Just avoid rocky uphills :)

[mckraut]

well you should feel like that for looking at crap bikes while Im sure there is a bike shop struggling to stay in business in your own town.

I didn't rule out a local shop at all. I'm considering a local one that sells Trek bikes and plan to visit this weekend. I came here looking for advice on what to buy from a non-biased viewpoint. You simply gave me "That's crap, stay off the internet and visit a local bike shop". What I wanted was a little bit of hand holding and a push in the right direction as far as brands go.

If I can't rely on my fellow Mazda brethren, then whom? :-)

[what_the]

stay off the internet and go to your local bike shop. GOD...

I completely agree that you should support your local shops, and I don't mean walmart and REI. Go in and talk with them and tell them what you are looking for. Most of these places are kind of mom & pop joints, some of them have great people, and others just suck. That being said, let them know what you are working with and they might be able to help you out with a deal. You will get a better deal online if your really look for it, and you might be forced to do that if there aren't any decent shops in your area.

As for what to look for in bikes, this is defiantly a pay-to-play sport, and you will get what you pay for. Shimano components have always lasted longer for me than Sram. I would opt for anything with Sram X-7 or higher and Shimano Deore or higher. The lower end stuff doesn't seem to take the abuse. I have had great luck with Specialized, Ironhorse (they weigh a ton), Trek, Gary Fisher (owned by Trek), Haro, and the REI Novara brand. Anyways I hope my ramblings help.

[iracemine]

I didn't rule out a local shop at all. I'm considering a local one that sells Trek bikes and plan to visit this weekend. I came here looking for advice on what to buy from a non-biased viewpoint. You simply gave me "That's crap, stay off the internet and visit a local bike shop". What I wanted was a little bit of hand holding and a push in the right direction as far as brands go.

If I can't rely on my fellow Mazda brethren, then whom? :-)

This is my gentle nudge. Its the internet you get to meet all sorts of different people. I might seem to be a dick, and that's just cause I am, but at least Im trying to help you. Twelve years of the same questions make me a bit dickish.

Also novara and iron horse are not bike shop bikes, stay away. They are about as good as dimondbacks.

[coyfish]

I completely agree that you should support your local shops, and I don't mean walmart and REI. Go in and talk with them and tell them what you are looking for. Most of these places are kind of mom & pop joints, some of them have great people, and others just suck. That being said, let them know what you are working with and they might be able to help you out with a deal. You will get a better deal online if your really look for it, and you might be forced to do that if there aren't any decent shops in your area.

As for what to look for in bikes, this is defiantly a pay-to-play sport, and you will get what you pay for. Shimano components have always lasted longer for me than Sram. I would opt for anything with Sram X-7 or higher and Shimano Deore or higher. The lower end stuff doesn't seem to take the abuse. I have had great luck with Specialized, Ironhorse (they weigh a ton), Trek, Gary Fisher (owned by Trek), Haro, and the REI Novara brand. Anyways I hope my ramblings help.

Perhaps if your talking about mountain bikes I agree. But way too many people spend so much money on road bikes while ignoring the most important aspects of riding: Training and posture. Paying many thousands to shave off ounces / gain minimal aerodynamics when they themselves are the problem.

I do triathlons for fun and its shocking the bikes I see. I ride a basic bike. Makes a funky noise when you pedal but works perfectly. I just tell people its the turbo :). Its fun passing people riding 15 grand bikes.

[mckraut]

This is my gentle nudge. Its the internet you get to meet all sorts of different people. I might seem to be a dick, and that's just cause I am, but at least Im trying to help you. Twelve years of the same questions make me a bit dickish.

Also novara and iron horse are not bike shop bikes, stay away. They are about as good as dimondbacks.

I could understand such questions getting old over time. I think I'm going to just visit my local bike shop down the road. They have rentals as well and I'm trying to get the wife to join me in my new potential hobby.

Thanks for the advice, I'll post back if I end up snagging something (highly likely).

[Rosshole]

Perhaps if your talking about mountain bikes I agree. But way too many people spend so much money on road bikes while ignoring the most important aspects of riding: Training and posture. Paying many thousands to shave off ounces / gain minimal aerodynamics when they themselves are the problem.

I do triathlons for fun and its shocking the bikes I see. I ride a basic bike. Makes a funky noise when you pedal but works perfectly. I just tell people its the turbo :). Its fun passing people riding 15 grand bikes.

True, a good fitting a couple/few times a year is important.

[what_the]

Perhaps if your talking about mountain bikes I agree. But way too many people spend so much money on road bikes while ignoring the most important aspects of riding: Training and posture. Paying many thousands to shave off ounces / gain minimal aerodynamics when they themselves are the problem.

I do triathlons for fun and its shocking the bikes I see. I ride a basic bike. Makes a funky noise when you pedal but works perfectly. I just tell people its the turbo :). Its fun passing people riding 15 grand bikes.


Yeah I was talking about mountain bikes. I was never really a roady. If the guy is looking for a road bike, I am not the person to talk to, b/c I have no idea about them. Your point about fitment is defiantly right. It is also the best reason to go to a shop and get fitted. Ridding is a lot more fun when things fit right.

iracemine, do you have any personal experience with novara or ironhorse. I ask, b/c I don't think it is fair for someone to bash products that they have never used. While neither of those two brands are really nice, they get the job done for a good price, hell the ironhorse and novara bikes that we have as rentals in the program I work with have help up much better than the GT's and some specialized's that we had.

[iracemine]

Yeah I was talking about mountain bikes. I was never really a roady. If the guy is looking for a road bike, I am not the person to talk to, b/c I have no idea about them. Your point about fitment is defiantly right. It is also the best reason to go to a shop and get fitted. Ridding is a lot more fun when things fit right.

iracemine, do you have any personal experience with novara or ironhorse. I ask, b/c I don't think it is fair for someone to bash products that they have never used. While neither of those two brands are really nice, they get the job done for a good price, hell the ironhorse and novara bikes that we have as rentals in the program I work with have help up much better than the GT's and some specialized's that we had.

yes. Currently I am a shop head mechanic. and have my own shop for a few years and just plain old mechanic for over 12 years. I have to deal with theses bikes EVERY DAY unfortunately. so for the one or two you have owned, I have worked on hundreds. I have seen these bikes come in split at the welds, assembled like some one wants to kill there costumers, and just plain old parts snapping off the frame. I dont need any underdog storys. Its the internet take what you want from this. I dont care if you like buying a 30 pound ultra low quality aluminum bike that was made in a wooden jig in a pacificCycle sweet shop by 7 year old girls. I just wish there was some one that would have told my customers before they got stuck by these stores as times are indeed tough right now, and no one should have to buy something twice.

[what_the]

Makes me sad that Cannondale is now owned by PacificCycle. While I have never seen a frame as bad as you describe I can believe it.

[coyfish]

Went for a 30 mile ride yesterday and the wind killed me. I went one way and knew it was way too easy than it should have been. Averaged 23 mph one way and 17 the other . . . Was brutal.

[Rosshole]

Went for a 30 mile ride yesterday and the wind killed me. I went one way and knew it was way too easy than it should have been. Averaged 23 mph one way and 17 the other . . . Was brutal.

yeah, I used to start out my rides by heading into the wind so that I would kill myself coming back...

[Midnight22]

Mongoose Snare 18" frame, disk brakes, shimano derailleur... has the capability for v-brakes on the forks... pretty nice, the rear shock seems a little stiff, but then again I am flying down the trails pretty quick...

Just bought it about 8 days ago, ridden it 3 times and I love it... prob not the best bike, but its a bike and I'm riding

[Rosshole]

I have only ridden a few times this year... it is still fairly cold up here!

[judman13]

I wish I have trails like this....and the skills to ride them.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1931121

[jred321]

get out and start building :)


(with appropriate approvals of course)

[iracemine]

get out and start building :)


(with appropriate approvals of course)

X2. (iagree)

I had a local trail that I would build for 1 hour and ride for 1 hour every time I would go. after a month of doing that other people started helping too. I havent lived there in like four years, but every time I go just to ride, the trails are still going strong with people whom I have never met maintain them. and its not the park because they just keep trying to give us tickets for even being in there on a bike.

[jonridinhi]

The local trails around here are maintained every Saturday morning by the local club, which I am glad for. The beginner is full of roots, the intermediate is a fast course but has a few decent man made ramps and bridges and the advanced is kind of tight cornered to gain a lot of speed. But none of these even begin to compare to the degree of excellence of those. I just got into trails last year (grew up racing BMX) but it is a lot of fun. I think i would break something on a course like that.

[Ride92]

I didn't rule out a local shop at all. I'm considering a local one that sells Trek bikes and plan to visit this weekend. I came here looking for advice on what to buy from a non-biased viewpoint. You simply gave me "That's crap, stay off the internet and visit a local bike shop". What I wanted was a little bit of hand holding and a push in the right direction as far as brands go.

If I can't rely on my fellow Mazda brethren, then whom? :-)

McKraut, let me help you out a bit. I want to ask a couple of question about you and the type of riding you are going to do. Then I will talk about the different types (catagories) of bikes and which one serves your needs best.

1) What is your riding expercience? Just starting out and getting a first bike?
been riding for years and looking to upgrade? Used to ride a bunch and wanting to ride again?

2) How far and how often do you see your self riding? Everyday rain or shine? Only on the weekends when it's sunny? Commuting to work often? Average ride 5-10miles or 40+ miles?

3) Where will you be riding? On city streets? Paved country roads? Single Track trails in the woods?

4) What postion is comfortable for you to ride in/any injuries that prevent you from being in a certain postion?

5) How much are you willing to spend?

Ask yourself these questions and come up with some reasonable answers and any sales person who works at and Indepentant Bike Shop (one that's not a national Chain, REI, DICK'S, Ect..) should be able to show you several different bikes that will fit your needs. Basically there are 4 different catagories of bikes as follows:

Mountain Bike:Generally heaver then most bikes relative to cost and made to go off road. Think Jeep Wrangler or hummer hear. They will have wider rims and most likely knobby tires for traction. The frames are built a little stronger to withstand the off road punishment. They will either have no suspension (a rigid), Front Suspension only, or Full suspension (front and rear). The more suspension you have in terms of how many wheels (one or two suspended) and the amount of travel usually dictates price. Full Suspension is more expensive and a decent one will start at about $1000. Hard Tails/front suspension only are lighter wieght but dont handle the same terrain as a full suspension as well. A good hard tail will start around $500. Hard tails can be had for less money but most of the time the bikes under the $500 dollar mark don't have the componets (stuff on the bike that make it a bike) that are stong enough for alot of off road use. Most mountain bikes are going to have a 26" tire but 29" tires are becoming more popular. They ride different from each other so try one of each out.

Road Bike:Road bikes are just that bikes that are designed to be ridden on the raod or pavement at all times. They will have the lightest frames and the highest Price tags generally speaking. They have skinnier tires that are 700c which is a metric measurement roughly the same as the 29er from the mountain bikes just skinny. You don't have to be Lance Armstrong to ride a road bike. There are mainly two types of road bikes, race bikes (pro fit) for going fast and have an agressive fit to them. Think of Lambo and Ferrari here nice cars not daily drivers thu. Meaning you sit bent over more and the body is maximized for speed and power not comfort. This style is great if you plan on racing or are flexible and athletic and wanting to ride alot. The other kind is Peformance road bike, where you give bit in maximizing your effective to go fast for a little more comfort. These bikes will sit you up a little more and have longer more stable wheel base (think BMW M5. Since road bikes are designed to be ridden long distance the way you fit on the bike is very important. Just like trying on 4 different brands of shoe all the same size and finding that Nike's fit best the same goes for Bikes. The seat tube (how tall the bike is from center of crank to the top of the frame where the seat goes in), the Top tube( the one that runs in between your legs) and the head tube ( the steering collum) all play a part in hpw you fit the bike and which brand will work best for you. A sales person can help you find the right size. Once you find the right size road bike you need to get that bike fit to you. Since the bikes are made to fit a wide range of people there are things that may need to changed to have it custom tailored to you and your body. It's like buying a very nice suit and not having it custom tailored to your exact body. A bike fit from a trained fitter is the best money you will every spend on you bike. Image being able to have the cockpit of your car custom made to fit you, how long your arms are to reach the wheel, how long your legs to get to the pedals, where the shifter is placed for the best fit, this is what they will do to your bike for you.

Hybrid Bikes: Hybrid is a very large catagorie of bike that basically houses everything that's not a road bike or mountain bike and that people still consider normal bikes. two basic types are the most popular, comfort hybrids or just hybrids as many call them are the foundation of this catagorie. These bikes you sit very upright on and have a much higher center of gravity then road or mt. bikes. There great for cruizing witht he family and lazy sunday rides int he park. They often have a bit of suspension in the seat post and fornt fork for smoothing out the sidewal bumps, not jumping curbs or bombing down off-road trails. The seats are wide and give good support cause most of you meat is touching the seat sitting so upright. They are bit heavier and harder to maintain fast speeds or go up hill. The second kind is fitness bikes. There kinda like road bikes but not. They are lighter weight then the traditionall hybrid and have flat handle bars. They usually don't have suspension and are geared like raod bikes for speed but you don't "bend" over them so much. Great bikes for commuting on since your head is held higher to see traffic yet efficent enough to maintain high speeds easyier.

Specialty bike: Prety much anything that doesne't fit into those cats. named above. BMX bikes for doing stunts, Tandem bikes for riding wih a partner on the same bike, Cyclocross bikes which are like off road road bikes, touring bikes are like the semi-truck of the bike world, and the recumbent bike that you almaost laydown to ride with your feet out in front of you. there's also speciallty Mt. bikes but like down hill bikes but I don't you'll be looking at one of those. All these bike serve a speciffic purpose and excpet for the Cyclo-Cross bike and the touring bike are all pretty much used for just what they were designed to do.

Now that you have an Idea of what you're looking for and the different types of bike availible It's time to go out and test ride some different kinds and differnent brands. If a bike shop doesn't let you test ride a bike, leave right away, they are hiding something, usually bad products.

As far as what brands to look for there are several really great ones out there. The Big Three are TREK (owns Gary Fisher), SPECIALIZED, and GIANT Cannondale is there too but not as big. All make great bikes rangeing in price and bikes in all the catagories. Ones not really better then the other, it's like comparing BMW, Mercedes, and Audi all great cars but different in there own right. Next in line are some of the smaller brands, like Felt, Orbea, Kona, Raleigh, Fuji, Bianchi, there are other I'm missing. and then the Boutique brands like Santa Cruz, Parlee, Guru, Co-Motion, Yeti, Gunner, Indepent Fab., Seven...the list goes on.

Answer the qustion at the begining. Go to a shop and tell them your answers for what kind of bike you'd like. Test ride several different Kinds and Brands, maybe visit a couple local shops. Do Not get hung up on the details, $500 bucks gets you $500 buck worth of bike (full retail price that is) it doesn't matter if one has a better crank or one has a better derailuer, it's six of one half a dozen of the other, got it. Of course every bike shop wants to make money so if you I want to spend $500 and they show you one at $600 listen to them it may be worth it, sometimes spending the extra $100 get you a much better bike. If you say $500 and they show you something that's $1000 laugh at them and walk out!!!. Every bike shop I've ever worked at or been do as a good return policy sorta give us the asking price for the bike, ride it for a month and if you don't like we'll give you all your money back no questions asked. Bike shops what to see you happy on a bike they want you to tell your friends and come back to buy fenders and tubes and stuff like that. On that note if you are going to be commuting plan an extra $100 bucks or so for all the stuff to commute in any weather conditons, locks, fenders, lights, flat repair tools, ect.

Hope this helps at least one person.

[what_the]

That has to be one of the best explanations and most useful posts I have ever read, and I am a competitive cyclist who took something away from that.

Hey Ride92, do you mind if I kind of take some of your post and add it into some of our class slides here at ORGT for our instructional classes?

[ehidle]

Phew... finally some good weather... I've ridden every day for the last 7 days.. finally starting to get my legs back after suffering several feet of snow over the winter... hoping those 15lbs I gained over the winter will melt off quickly... my jerseys are a little snug hah...

[jonridinhi]

I road 20 miles through the battle fields today on the paths and then decided after work to go hit up a 5 mile trail. But on the positive note rode a 21" 29er cobia and fell in love with everything but the price tag. Beautiful day!!!

[Ride92]

That has to be one of the best explanations and most useful posts I have ever read, and I am a competitive cyclist who took something away from that.

Hey Ride92, do you mind if I kind of take some of your post and add it into some of our class slides here at ORGT for our instructional classes?

Go ahead, I don't mind at all, That's what these forums are for, sharing knowledge, I know bikes really really well and want to know cars better but cars cost more then bikes.

[Allen]

It's bike riding season again, yay!

I bought a Giant XTC NSR FS frame back in 2001 and transferred a lot of components from my Gary Fisher hard tail bike to the Giant. Each year I try to give it an upgrade or two. It now has many great components and only lacks a light set of quality wheels and disc brakes. Still stuck on v-brakes and they are not even that great ... I think Avid Single Digits 5 or 7. I am not sure which disc brakes out there is the best bang for the buck (and lighter weight), have not done much research. I really want to get new set of rims but I just had the current wheels trued last season and a bunch of spokes replaced, so probably going to pound on them a bit longer before actually replacing them. I'll replace the v-brakes at the same time I replace the rims. I am definitely one of those who like to shave off the weight on a bike if possible.

Finding a good bike shop to deal with is key. They will have no problem fixing anything for you and sometimes not even charge you for minor repairs or add/ons in hopes you come back often...or spread the word and bring them more customers. They will not be shy to let you test ride any of their available bikes. I like bike shops that have a variety of bikes displayed. They don't have much wiggle room to haggle on a complete bike purchase, but almost everything else is pretty much up in the air for negotiation.

[iracemine]

it's bike riding season again, yay!

I bought a giant xtc nsr fs frame back in 2001 and transferred a lot of components from my gary fisher hard tail bike to the giant. Each year i try to give it an upgrade or two. It now has many great components and only lacks a light set of quality wheels and disc brakes. Still stuck on v-brakes and they are not even that great ... I think avid single digits 5 or 7. I am not sure which disc brakes out there is the best bang for the buck (and lighter weight), have not done much research. I really want to get new set of rims but i just had the current wheels trued last season and a bunch of spokes replaced, so probably going to pound on them a bit longer before actually replacing them. I'll replace the v-brakes at the same time i replace the rims. I am definitely one of those who like to shave off the weight on a bike if possible.

Finding a good bike shop to deal with is key. They will have no problem fixing anything for you and sometimes not even charge you for minor repairs or add/ons in hopes you come back often...or spread the word and bring them more customers. They will not be shy to let you test ride any of their available bikes. I like bike shops that have a variety of bikes displayed. they don't have much wiggle room to haggle on a complete bike purchase, but almost everything else is pretty much up in the air for negotiation.

x2

[coyfish]

I don't agree. I do traithlons and I have been to my share of bike shops. Labor is negotiable but parts are always what they are. Im not saying bike shops won't treat you well but they are not out their to do favors. They will do what they can to put you on the right bike and do everything a shop "should" do before you make a big investment. They make their money through bike sales and labor. Customer service is what goes the distance and brings customers back. Not bargains. If they charge you 100 dollars for an overall cleaning / maintenance then they aren't doing you a huge favor to spend 5 minutes and apply your new aerobar grip free of charge. That is why most avid cyclists work on their own bikes. They are very simple machines.

[Rosshole]

but doing minor repairs for cheap or nothing and the like IS customer service.

[prof15]

It's bike riding season again, yay!

I bought a Giant XTC NSR FS frame back in 2001 and transferred a lot of components from my Gary Fisher hard tail bike to the Giant. Each year I try to give it an upgrade or two. It now has many great components and only lacks a light set of quality wheels and disc brakes. Still stuck on v-brakes and they are not even that great ... I think Avid Single Digits 5 or 7. I am not sure which disc brakes out there is the best bang for the buck (and lighter weight), have not done much research. I really want to get new set of rims but I just had the current wheels trued last season and a bunch of spokes replaced, so probably going to pound on them a bit longer before actually replacing them. I'll replace the v-brakes at the same time I replace the rims. I am definitely one of those who like to shave off the weight on a bike if possible.

Finding a good bike shop to deal with is key. They will have no problem fixing anything for you and sometimes not even charge you for minor repairs or add/ons in hopes you come back often...or spread the word and bring them more customers. They will not be shy to let you test ride any of their available bikes. I like bike shops that have a variety of bikes displayed. They don't have much wiggle room to haggle on a complete bike purchase, but almost everything else is pretty much up in the air for negotiation.

What you can do is to get a wheel set that works with v brakes and disk brakes. That way you can use them with V brakes while you get the disk brakes.

[jonridinhi]

Just picked up my first fisher last night....

[Rosshole]

it stopped snowing last night, so i am going to get out tomorrow and then I have a computrainer time trial at a big bike expo this weekend.

[jonridinhi]

So here is my $66 monster.... (40 for the frame and 26 for the trigger shifter). I snapped the crank in my old bike so I got this cheap and upgraded some parts. I am going to rock the old school fisher till I can afford the 2010 cobia. But surprisingly it rides better than any other bike I have had but still nothing like a 29er.
http://www.msprotege.com/members/jonridinhi/bike/2000GFmamba1.JPG
http://www.msprotege.com/members/jonridinhi/bike/2000GFmamba2.JPG

[judman13]

What affordable fork do you experts recommend for a Trek 4300 ridden on rough single tracks? Most of the trails are ride are full of root and rocks. There are very few drops or jumps, if anything its less than 3 feet.

I am just a pleasure rider, but would like an upgrade.

[jonridinhi]

I am a fan of rock shock reba's but they are not under the classification of affordable unless you are comparing them to fox shocks. They have a lock out for roads and if you want to get real fancy they can put a lockout switch on your bar.

[jred321]

the dart 3 seems decent and relatively affordable but i've never ridden it or read reviews. i rode a dart 2 and wasn't impressed. not sure what the difference is between the two http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_187387_-1_201485_10000_200457

[Allen]

What you can do is to get a wheel set that works with v brakes and disk brakes. That way you can use them with V brakes while you get the disk brakes.


Great idea, I think that's what I will be doing for it the end of next year.

[mazdaspeedster3]

I don't agree. I do traithlons and I have been to my share of bike shops. Labor is negotiable but parts are always what they are. Im not saying bike shops won't treat you well but they are not out their to do favors. They will do what they can to put you on the right bike and do everything a shop "should" do before you make a big investment. They make their money through bike sales and labor. Customer service is what goes the distance and brings customers back. Not bargains. If they charge you 100 dollars for an overall cleaning / maintenance then they aren't doing you a huge favor to spend 5 minutes and apply your new aerobar grip free of charge. That is why most avid cyclists work on their own bikes. They are very simple machines.

I dont find that to be true here in Mi at all... I buy a new bike every 2-4 years for myself and the wife and am the first to help friends or family purchase a bike or upgrade to a better bike so I am consistently shopping for new bikes and parts all the time. I have suggested purchases from stores like REI and from single owner small shops. Personally I stick with small shops only because they do negotiate. I dont need to wait for a sale or a coupon in the mail to save on parts or a bike. I just picked up a 2010 Specialized Rockhopper SL Pro for 20% under MSRP and they paid my sales tax (6% here in MI). I also swapped out stem and handlebars at no charge (both upgrades), was given a $25 dollar credit for the horrible saddle it came with along with a $15 credit for the dedals that I didnt need to go towards a $120 saddle I wanted along with a 15% discount on the saddle. I get 15% off any accesorie I buy for the rest of this year and free maintenance on the bike for 2 years. This shop also meets or beats internet pricing on parts which is huge in my book as I am always upgrading parts! Long story short, the small local shops are going to help you out, just ask and be loyal. Now is the perfect time to pick up last years model at a deep discount. If you ask around you may even be able to find an in the box 08 model for super cheap!

[mckraut]

So my wife and I decided not to buy bikes just yet. After reviewing our options, it was just going to be too expensive to get two good bikes this summer. We might save up and try to get some in the off season or something.

[jred321]

did you go look at a local shop to see what they have in stock? an article i was reading not too long ago was saying now is a great time to buy. shops are getting in their 2010 bikes and because of the economy their 2009s didn't sell real well. as a result of having a lot of 2009 stock and 2010 bikes coming in they should be discounting their 2009 models just to get them off the floor. obviously there are a lot of factors involved but it wouldn't hurt to go look to see what shops have and see what they can do for you if you really are going to buy 2 bikes

[coyfish]

I dont find that to be true here in Mi at all... I buy a new bike every 2-4 years for myself and the wife and am the first to help friends or family purchase a bike or upgrade to a better bike so I am consistently shopping for new bikes and parts all the time. I have suggested purchases from stores like REI and from single owner small shops. Personally I stick with small shops only because they do negotiate. I dont need to wait for a sale or a coupon in the mail to save on parts or a bike. I just picked up a 2010 Specialized Rockhopper SL Pro for 20% under MSRP and they paid my sales tax (6% here in MI). I also swapped out stem and handlebars at no charge (both upgrades), was given a $25 dollar credit for the horrible saddle it came with along with a $15 credit for the dedals that I didnt need to go towards a $120 saddle I wanted along with a 15% discount on the saddle. I get 15% off any accesorie I buy for the rest of this year and free maintenance on the bike for 2 years. This shop also meets or beats internet pricing on parts which is huge in my book as I am always upgrading parts! Long story short, the small local shops are going to help you out, just ask and be loyal. Now is the perfect time to pick up last years model at a deep discount. If you ask around you may even be able to find an in the box 08 model for super cheap!

Well your talking about mountain bikes. Mountain bikes can certainly get expensive but not like road bikes. Anyway sounds like they help you out since you bring clients, get frequent service, and buy new bikes ever 2-4 years (wow). I have never seen someone get a new model bike for 20% under msrp. Maybe an older model. Thats not a huge shock. Most people aren't buying bikes every few years. A new client going into a small private bike shop can't expect discounts like you got unless they purchase old model gear. Anyway I have nothing against small shops. All im saying is that if your looking to save money than its not the best bet.

I bought a 5 thousand dollar bike for 1200 on the 3bay. So many people buy bikes that they never ride.

I don't know about mountain bikes (im sure you beat those up more) but road mikes don't need much maintenance so its not like your visiting the shop monthly.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Well your talking about mountain bikes. Mountain bikes can certainly get expensive but not like road bikes. Anyway sounds like they help you out since you bring clients, get frequent service, and buy new bikes ever 2-4 years (wow). I have never seen someone get a new model bike for 20% under msrp. Maybe an older model. Thats not a huge shock. Most people aren't buying bikes every few years. A new client going into a small private bike shop can't expect discounts like you got unless they purchase old model gear. Anyway I have nothing against small shops. All im saying is that if your looking to save money than its not the best bet.

I bought a 5 thousand dollar bike for 1200 on the 3bay. So many people buy bikes that they never ride.

I don't know about mountain bikes (im sure you beat those up more) but road mikes don't need much maintenance so its not like your visiting the shop monthly.

I hear what you are saying but see bike stores doing huge sales right now. American Cycle & Fitness has a yearly sale, just last weekend that gave 20-30% off any bike in stock, including 2010 models. The prices are good for the next 30 days if you mention the sale. They are a bigger chain here, 4 stores total but that is well under MSRP for new model bikes (Trek, Gary, Haro). Florida must be pretty uppity (lack of a better word) or the bike stores are not hurting in any way. I am a fairly outgoing person and dont keep my mouth shut when in the store and not afraid to talk up a deal either though, that can help. I see A LOT of people in the stores "looking" but have no idea what they are really there for or what they should be looking for and why. I can see the frustration with some of the store owners with those individuals.

[mazdaspeedster3]

So my wife and I decided not to buy bikes just yet. After reviewing our options, it was just going to be too expensive to get two good bikes this summer. We might save up and try to get some in the off season or something.

So if you cant have expensive bikes you just are not going to ride at all? Wow, not me man. I would ride a Huffy if I had to!

[jonridinhi]

So if you cant have expensive bikes you just are not going to ride at all? Wow, not me man. I would ride a Huffy if I had to!

Funny you say that, I have 3 bikes and one is a huffy. LOL. I only ride it if the other two are broke. It is not as much fun but way better than nothing.

Watch CL, some people are selling bikes they never rode at a price that you can get that back out of them when you upgrade.

[coyfish]

I hear what you are saying but see bike stores doing huge sales right now. American Cycle & Fitness has a yearly sale, just last weekend that gave 20-30% off any bike in stock, including 2010 models. The prices are good for the next 30 days if you mention the sale. They are a bigger chain here, 4 stores total but that is well under MSRP for new model bikes (Trek, Gary, Haro). Florida must be pretty uppity (lack of a better word) or the bike stores are not hurting in any way. I am a fairly outgoing person and dont keep my mouth shut when in the store and not afraid to talk up a deal either though, that can help. I see A LOT of people in the stores "looking" but have no idea what they are really there for or what they should be looking for and why. I can see the frustration with some of the store owners with those individuals.

Yeah well if you can find a bike for a good price at a small shop then thats the best choice :). Small shops like those you mention have great customer service to keep you coming back. With the economy hurting im sure bike prices have dropped a bit. I live in the triathlon capital of the US so I don't think the deals are quite as plentiful here. I base my opinions through my own limited experience. I only bought one bike. I went to about 4-5 shops around Orlando and ended up purchasing through 3bay. The savings were just too much to resist. Still bought my helmet, clothes, shoes, pedals through the small store which were incredibly willing to give advice and help.

[coyfish]

So my wife and I decided not to buy bikes just yet. After reviewing our options, it was just going to be too expensive to get two good bikes this summer. We might save up and try to get some in the off season or something.

Check 3bay. Like always there are scams but there are some ridiculous deals to be had. People buy expensive bikes but still aren't motivated enough to ride them.

[jonridinhi]

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/bik/1690275794.html

Like here is a decent deal. I got my gary for 40 and I saw a 09 cobia go for 225. I would have got it but a 17.5 frame is way to small.

[prof15]

^ so what bikes you currently have ?

[jonridinhi]

I got a gary fisher mamba, a specialized dual suspension bike I am building into a single speed for this single track/jump course up the road and the huffy which I think I have rode once. I am saving up for the 2010 cobia. 29er's is where it is at. I could smoke my buddy on his old bike and now since he got a 29er he is giving me a workout, plus they are so much smoother over smaller stuff.

[THE Phen]

Going after work today. Got the 29er on the bike rack. First time out with it... at least outdoors. I hit Ray's Indoor MTB a few times over the winter. I've had the road bike out a few times already.

Bikes:
Mtn - Redline Monocog 29er. Rigid + single speed
Road - 2007 Giant OCR2

[Foolish]

Getting ready to sell my TCR and my Rockhopper beater bike to build up a Surly Cross-Check. It's going to be my do-all bike. I'm looking forward to it.

If anyone wants a Medium 2002 Giant TCR Team Once frame with a Profile Carbon fork, let me know. Brakes, headset and front derailleur will be included.

[coyfish]

Did a triathlon today. No sun and no wind. Was a perfect day.

[Rosshole]

Did a triathlon today. No sun and no wind. Was a perfect day.

Sweet action... what distance?

[coyfish]

olympic. Seems like most triathlons very slightly which is odd. But I did 1.2 mile swim, 26 mile ride, 5 mile run.

[Rosshole]

olympic. Seems like most triathlons very slightly which is odd. But I did 1.2 mile swim, 26 mile ride, 5 mile run.

True, and with course terrain varying so much, it makes it very hard to compare 2 different events.

I am doing a half iron in the middle of June, and couple of other oly's and sprints throughout the rest of the summer.

[Foolish]

A friend of mine is going to buy my TCR, and the order for my Surly will go in tomorrow. I should have it on Wednesday! WooHoo!

[coyfish]

I don't really train my stamina anymore. I just do them for fun. Kind of frustrating not being able to really compete though. Tennis is my main sport. When I train its usually just a 30 mile ride or a 5 mile run. Never back to back and I never swim anymore. Can't stand swimming.

The swim was fine and the bike I held my usual 20-21mph the whole time. The run broke me down and I started cramping the last couple miles. Probably was doing 9 min miles with about 3-4 short stops. Cardio wise I don't break a sweat. Never winded in the least bit. But my muscles are conditioned for the stamina /:.

[livetoride]

Brought this little lady home today....

[judman13]

Holy crap....

How can you ride with out the arm and leg you gave them to bring it home!!

[livetoride]

Holy crap....

How can you ride with out the arm and leg you gave them to bring it home!!

haha...if you search my posts on this topic you'll probably hate me...I work at an authorized dealer and am lucky enough to bring a new bike home every year. buying direct from the companies is nice.

[judman13]

Haha That is awesome for you!! I don't hate ya, just wish I was in a position like that.

Awesome ride man.

[mckraut]

Any opinions on Nishiki bikes? Just looking for decent beater bikes now.

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/spo/1699889847.html

I'm also considering offering $300 for this Ironhorse.

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/1699895873.html

[ehidle]

haha...if you search my posts on this topic you'll probably hate me...I work at an authorized dealer and am lucky enough to bring a new bike home every year. buying direct from the companies is nice.

Gotta love the EP deals :)

[THE Phen]

Short 10 mile ride yesterday. Time limitations as I have no lights.

[Rosshole]

I have a 30 miler tonight with my tri team... it's always a ballbusting ride. When we have more light, it changes to a 37 mile ride with 2000' of elevation change.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Been averaging 24.6 miles a ride. We have a decent trail loop that has a 9 mile loop and a 6 mile loop that run like a figure 8. Have been running the double loop and then a second 9 mile loop. Have over 200 miles on my bike this year already. Very early but happy about it!

[Rosshole]

One of my buddies training for IM just did his first century of the season this past Sunday.

I only have a couple hundred miles for the year as it is.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Dont think I will be spinning any centurys on my MTB. LOL...

[THE Phen]

My damn Cadence battery died.

[prof15]

Dont think I will be spinning any centurys on my MTB. LOL...

Its duable but not recomended.. lol I did my first century in a MTB two years ago because my road bike's carbon fork got craked during a crash early that year.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Must have taken a longer than you are accustomed to.

[coyfish]

Why wouldn't it be recommended on a mountain bike? I know a couple people who train on mountain bikes (for triathlons) occasionally. Its more comfortable.

[mazdaspeedster3]

They are riding several hundred miles a week minimally on a 2.0 or larger dirt tire? They may be on MTB style frames and running slicks, I can see that, or their rides are 30-50 mile rides. I know there are MTB triathlons but the biking part is usually only around 30 miles. Road riding is completely different than trail riding, especially if you live any where with any kind of elevation. The average road rider carrys a speed around 26-30 mph, an avid MTB'er 18-20 mph. That is a huge difference when traveling a large distance. And more comfortable? I have been fitted for road bikes that equalled the comfort of my MTB with no problem, and certainly for greater distances. If being set up on a MTB to be more erect than yes, but you can do the same on a road bike... Either way, if they are knocking out miles like that then that is pretty impressive.

[mckraut]

So I finally decided on a bike. Got a 2009 Trek 3700 on closeout from a LBS for $280. It wasn't exactly what I wanted (Trek 4300 disc), but it was what I could afford and I'm very happy with it.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs490.snc3/26811_385086310255_751045255_3751133_4554131_n.jpg

[Rosshole]

They are riding several hundred miles a week minimally on a 2.0 or larger dirt tire? They may be on MTB style frames and running slicks, I can see that, or their rides are 30-50 mile rides. I know there are MTB triathlons but the biking part is usually only around 30 miles. Road riding is completely different than trail riding, especially if you live any where with any kind of elevation. The average road rider carrys a speed around 26-30 mph, an avid MTB'er 18-20 mph. That is a huge difference when traveling a large distance. And more comfortable? I have been fitted for road bikes that equalled the comfort of my MTB with no problem, and certainly for greater distances. If being set up on a MTB to be more erect than yes, but you can do the same on a road bike... Either way, if they are knocking out miles like that then that is pretty impressive.

I think that you missed that coyfish said that some tri guys "occassionally" train on MTBs. Probably just to mix it up though. Also, those average speeds that you listed aren't all that realistic IMO.

[chowhoundMSP]

mckraut, good purchase. I think you will be much happier with that then something from a retail store.

Now get out there and hit those trails!

[jred321]

lol 18-20mph on a mountain bike? if i hit 10 for my average i'm thrilled. maybe out west where the trails are smoother but not around here

[Rosshole]

lol 18-20mph on a mountain bike? if i hit 10 for my average i'm thrilled. maybe out west where the trails are smoother but not around here

Agreed.


Also, I know many elite road riders in the area, and 26-30 isn't even in there vocabulary.

[judman13]

So I finally decided on a bike. Got a 2009 Trek 3700 on closeout from a LBS for $280. It wasn't exactly what I wanted (Trek 4300 disc), but it was what I could afford and I'm very happy with it.


I had that same bike about a year ago (2008 model, but same color model) until it was stolen. Great beginner bike, really strong and light for the price. Very durable and pretty forgiving. The only thing I had trouble with is the rear derailleur hanger would get bent and crack every so often.

[coyfish]

They are riding several hundred miles a week minimally on a 2.0 or larger dirt tire? They may be on MTB style frames and running slicks, I can see that, or their rides are 30-50 mile rides. I know there are MTB triathlons but the biking part is usually only around 30 miles. Road riding is completely different than trail riding, especially if you live any where with any kind of elevation. The average road rider carrys a speed around 26-30 mph, an avid MTB'er 18-20 mph. That is a huge difference when traveling a large distance. And more comfortable? I have been fitted for road bikes that equalled the comfort of my MTB with no problem, and certainly for greater distances. If being set up on a MTB to be more erect than yes, but you can do the same on a road bike... Either way, if they are knocking out miles like that then that is pretty impressive.

Well im talking about triathletes. Our training rides usually don't go over 40 miles. I rarely train past 30. As for the average speeds. Not sure about road cyclists but pro triathletes don't ride that fast. They average about 24mph with the "average" rider being about 19.

The shocks, tires, seat, and riding position make the MTB easier and more comfortable to ride. The only thing is the wind resistance. Not sure you could set up a road bike like that. The angle of the seat can't be changed on my bike.

And yes the guys im talking about have tri mountain bikes. So they ride them occasionally since they have them. Not all the time but frequently

[judman13]

Fact: I hate spider webs and pine straw!!!

[coyfish]

20 mile ride today. Still recovering from my tri so I took it easy. The wind was annoying and my back was KILLING me. Also my computer died so I lost the miles I had on my odo. Have no clue how many I had.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Sorry I said anything... Must be a lot flatter here in Mi and in Oregon, that or maybe I am just that fast. (first)(drunk)

[jonridinhi]

Fact: I hate spider webs and pine straw!!!

Try sand.... Going down hill to a jump and you decided to hit it and you land and your rims sink a foot down in. It was not like that a couple weeks ago but the rain washed all the sand and it accumulated in one spot.

My buddy laughed so hard but then he went around a corner and slid out but did not unclip his feet and he went down with the bike. That was my turn to laugh.

[Rosshole]

Sorry I said anything... Must be a lot flatter here in Mi and in Oregon, that or maybe I am just that fast. (first)(drunk)

You don't have to be sorry, That is just silly fast for average speeds.

[judman13]

Try sand.... Going down hill to a jump and you decided to hit it and you land and your rims sink a foot down in. It was not like that a couple weeks ago but the rain washed all the sand and it accumulated in one spot.

My buddy laughed so hard but then he went around a corner and slid out but did not unclip his feet and he went down with the bike. That was my turn to laugh.

We have tons of sand here its just all in slow parts so its easier to deal with, the entire rest of the trails are covered with pine straw.

And I did what your buddy did only due to the slick pine straw on the ground.

[jonridinhi]

Well it is in the slow parts but rain washed it down and the course went from side to side and the lowest part got all the sand. The club that maintains that set of trails usually takes care of it every Saturday morning for about an hour or two.

Sounds like you would fit in great with the group I ride with.

[i12drivemyMP5]

Here's bike #14 in my stable. I scored the frame & rear shock freshly painted lo mileage 1995 Trek Y22 off craiglist so cheap I couldn't pass it up. Pivot and rear shcok are in great shape, even with my 215 lb ass on it, lol. I know, I know, it's technologically surpassed FS design artifact but....got lockout on the new fork, will be getting a new rear shock with lockout so no bob on climbs. Got other bikes to bash the fuck out of on trails and zip around on the road with so this one will be capable offroad comfort history ride. Gonna end up with a mix of new and spare parts I already have on hand.......LX 570 bluish mega 9 fr der, rear der, & rapidfire shifters. 580 9 spd cass, SRAM PC 971 chain, FSA cranks with XT 751 mega 9 chainrings, UN73 BB, Cane Creek C1 sealed bearing headset, Rockshox Tora SL 100mm fork, FOX Alps 4 rr shock(for now), Hayes MX2 fr disc, Deore rr V, Deore disc hubs mounted to rhino lite rims, WTB Velociraptor tires & comfort V seat, easton bars, nashbar stem, Deore brk levers. Not cutting edge new shit but definitely very capable enjoyable durable shit. Can't wait to take it out for a spin once the rest of the parts arrive) Here's a crappy in progress build shot from the cell. (bunch of mock up parts on it).....more pics when complete.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/i12drivemyMP5/95y22_rebirth_01.jpg

[mazdaspeedster3]

My cousin still rides his Y frame. Saw another one at the trail head yesterday. Always makes me think way back....

[i12drivemyMP5]

I'm basically lookin at about 600 for the whole thing after all is said and done. Not sure I could of found a better FS bike/component setup for that amt. All the parts aren't brand new but they are all in very good low use shape if not new. Very happy where it's headed. Put pedals on it yesterday and strung the rear derailleur and test rode it a bit around the block. Frame feels really good and tight. Rear shock impressing me for it's age and holding up my 200lb ass but still want a newer model with lockout and more adjustments, like an RP23 or something similar.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Can you find a rear shock worth having for a decent price? When I was looking to replace my rear shock last year entry level was up in the $300's and an advanced rear shock was well into the 6-700's. For that ammount of money plus what you have bought the bike for and have put into it could get you a current mid level FS bike...

[CWPspeed3]

the dart 3 seems decent and relatively affordable but i've never ridden it or read reviews. i rode a dart 2 and wasn't impressed. not sure what the difference is between the two

ive got the dart 2 and while i dont have much to compare it to being new to the "real" mountain bike world i find i have to have the preload cranked tight and the rebound set to as slow as it will go otherwise im just bouncing all over. it doesnt feel like i have that great of control and really slows me down. im roughly 5'10 205lbs



My buddy laughed so hard but then he went around a corner and slid out but did not unclip his feet and he went down with the bike. That was my turn to laugh.

i've done that twice now in the past month since i started riding clipless.



thought id join in the convo. month ago got an 09 fisher marlin disc pretty good deal at a small bike store trying to make room for the 2010s. ive done roughly 220 miles since ive got it.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/lazyboymsu/Car%20stuff/041810%20Thule/DSC_3307.jpg

[mazdaspeedster3]

Need a pic with the whole car and bike, looks awesome! You take that pic today?

[CWPspeed3]

Need a pic with the whole car and bike, looks awesome! You take that pic today?

thanks, those were this weekend after i washed the car and bike. i went out and took a bunch of pics. i posted some in the MI and CWP thread.

favorite 4 of the 30 pics or so i took here.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5209187&postcount=1506

[jred321]

ive got the dart 2 and while i dont have much to compare it to being new to the "real" mountain bike world i find i have to have the preload cranked tight and the rebound set to as slow as it will go otherwise im just bouncing all over. it doesnt feel like i have that great of control and really slows me down. im roughly 5'10 205lbs
that was sort of my impression too. felt more like a wheel on a spring than a true shock. even got it to bottom out over some not very big jumps. my gf rides it now and it's fine for her because she's a lot easier on it and weighs less.

[jonridinhi]

I got an excellent ride in yesterday after work. Still sore from one of the skinnies but still had a blast. Will have a couple videos when they get posted.

[CWPspeed3]

I got an excellent ride in yesterday after work. Still sore from one of the skinnies but still had a blast. Will have a couple videos when they get posted.

what kind of setup did you use for videos? ive got a cheap little action cam that ive been debating strapping to my bike or helmet and see how it turns out.

[jonridinhi]

I am making a setup for my P&S but one of the guys who helped make the trail ussed his camera and my buddies droid took some too. Nothing fancy.

[iracemine]

So I finally decided on a bike. Got a 2009 Trek 3700 on closeout from a LBS for $280. It wasn't exactly what I wanted (Trek 4300 disc), but it was what I could afford and I'm very happy with it.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs490.snc3/26811_385086310255_751045255_3751133_4554131_n.jpg

solid bike man! and a fucking sweet price too!

[livetoride]

ive got the dart 2 and while i dont have much to compare it to being new to the "real" mountain bike world i find i have to have the preload cranked tight and the rebound set to as slow as it will go otherwise im just bouncing all over. it doesnt feel like i have that great of control and really slows me down. im roughly 5'10 205lbs

You may wanna look at some new springs (might only need one) for your dart. Stock springs generally are designed for riders up to 175lbs. You should look at a set of firm springs or extra firm. That would really help your bottom out. You may also want to back off the preload a little bit, there is also top out and if your coming up from bottoming out and it keeps hitting the top your fork is taking a lot of hits on both ends. Stop by the shop you purchased the bike at and see if they can get you springs. I know for most springs it is only $50 CDN so it should be cheaper for you. Its really easy to change them out, just undo the top nut, lift out the old, drop in the new.

[Foolish]

Had a good mountain bike/Trail-A-Bike ride with my 4-year old today. Such a great time. I can't wait til he's bigger, older, faster and racing me everywhere!

[CWPspeed3]

You may wanna look at some new springs (might only need one) for your dart. Stock springs generally are designed for riders up to 175lbs. You should look at a set of firm springs or extra firm. That would really help your bottom out. You may also want to back off the preload a little bit, there is also top out and if your coming up from bottoming out and it keeps hitting the top your fork is taking a lot of hits on both ends. Stop by the shop you purchased the bike at and see if they can get you springs. I know for most springs it is only $50 CDN so it should be cheaper for you. Its really easy to change them out, just undo the top nut, lift out the old, drop in the new.

thanks for the info, i'll have to check that out. i havent gone in for my first tune up yet, i'll ask at that time. my gears are starting to slip so its about time for that.

just did a 24 mile trail today, saw some paramedics on the trail, guess someone dislocated a knee.

[whowa004]

what kind of setup did you use for videos? ive got a cheap little action cam that ive been debating strapping to my bike or helmet and see how it turns out.

look into GoPro cameras, I have one and use it for everything, snowboarding, scuba diving, and auto racing. best 200 bucks I have ever spent. Plus they now have a full 1080i HD version for under $300 which is a great deal!

[araw at bituin]

windsor hour
48x17, fixed gear
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4803/dsc0490n.jpg
just rode 50 miles the other day. my groin is killing me.

[NTIMD8R]

Just finished a three-day 175 mile tour with over 7,000 climbing feet. I only had 3 rides totalling 85 miles in preparation for it. My groin is killing me too!

[araw at bituin]

Just finished a three-day 175 mile tour with over 7,000 climbing feet. I only had 3 rides totalling 85 miles in preparation for it. My groin is killing me too!
I'm assuming you were wearing cycling shorts as well. other than get a new seat, is there anything else we can do to prepare for the pain?

[coyfish]

Not really. You build more tolerance over time. On long rides vaseline may help.

[NTIMD8R]

Not really. You build more tolerance over time. On long rides vaseline may help.

That's the key--building tolerance over time. I kinda took the year off last year from riding. Just couldn't find the time. That and the limited amount of riding this year were the main contributors of the groin pain.

Araw at bituin, your seat could be an issue. I can't speak for you about that. However, I have had the same seat for a few years now and haven't had an issue with pain when I had been riding regularly. When riding consecutive days, there is some initial pain/soreness when getting on the bike after the first day of riding but it wears off after the first few miles.

I can only recommend some shorter rides (20-30 miles) a few days apart to build up some tolerance. It shouldn't take long until you won't even notice any pain. At least in your groin...(lol2)

[araw at bituin]

hmm. yeah i think that's the problem. one week, ill do maybe 3, 20 mile rides. then the next week i'll do less than 20 the whole week. my body isn't able to adjust to the pain haha.

[i12drivemyMP5]

Groin pain? Nah, but my ass bones hurt after long rides regardless of ride frequency, seats or shorts. It's better on trail rides because you're crouched on the pedals coasting more than on road rides where you just hammer away seated for the most part. +2 on the crease lube so you don't saw yourself apart. Not ever gona be "conditioned" for bike butthurt & there will be no copilot sleeping, that's automatic stop, get off and walk it off, lol. I really need to get some new pics of the fleet and post back up. The "new" 1995 Trek Y22 that was recently resurected turned out pretty cool and another bike is getting makeover due to parts leftover from the Y bike rebuild and it needing a new purpose in life.

[Rosshole]

I just picked up a new seat (great value too) that is super comfortable and a fraction of the usual saddle price!

$65

http://triathlonlab.com/image.php?id=219&type=D

[Rosshole]

sweet... got my rollers in.

Perfect timing as it is cold and rainy out so no outdoor riding for me!

[ehidle]

Gonna be on the trainer for a few days.. we're having a cold and wet spell... haven't been riding enough so far this year - this spring has been miserable with wind and rain. If it's try, it's 20-30mph winds. If it's not windy, it's pouring down rain.

Can't win, and it's depressing.

[Rosshole]

agreed, I spent an hour on the rollers earlier. It was the first time i ever got onto them... pretty wild.

[CWPspeed3]

cool and wet here too so i dropped my bike off for a tune up as i head to TOD.

[Foolish]

Decided to try and get a few errands in on the bike before the rain, so I mounted up the trail-a-bike for my son, threw our locks in the Timbuk2 bag and headed out. We dropped a video at Blockbuster, then headed down the trail next to Rt. 50 to check out some flooring options for my new bike room at Lowe's.

As I'm locking up my bike, I hear something, lean in to confirm, and find that my back tire is indeed leaking air. I quickly found the piece of glass sticking out of the tire and realize that I have no spare tube or patch kit with me, so the kid and I jump back on the bike and roll out for home, hoping to out-run the air loss! Half-way home, I stopped and pumped up the already near-flat tire with my mini-pump (mounted on the frame, good thing) and we cruised home from there!

Once I had the bike put away and cleaned up my sweaty self, we got in the 6 and went back to Lowe's, where I found some carpet to put down in the room! :D

[Rosshole]

me and flat tires don't get along...

[iracemine]

look into GoPro cameras, I have one and use it for everything, snowboarding, scuba diving, and auto racing. best 200 bucks I have ever spent. Plus they now have a full 1080i HD version for under $300 which is a great deal!

yup, they have a "fish eye" model now that is awesome! they are a great little must have.

[CWPspeed3]

well i think i wore out my deore m591 rear derailleur and cassette already (~400 miles). thinking about going XT but reviews of the cassette say when they switched from five to four spoke star sprocket carrier second gear just bends under torque. does anyone have any suggestions for a good replacement 9 speed casette?

[iracemine]

well i think i wore out my deore m591 rear derailleur and cassette already (~400 miles). thinking about going XT but reviews of the cassette say when they switched from five to four spoke star sprocket carrier second gear just bends under torque. does anyone have any suggestions for a good replacement 9 speed casette?

what ever you do keep it all the same. TRUST ME. I am 12 years of the same BS. if you have sram stay sram, if you have shimano stick with shimano. it will live longer, quieter, better performance, quicker shifting.

if you like the old xt.... try euroasia.com (or something like that). they have old new stock still in box.

[NETC_Redd]

holy crap how have I never seen this thread? Oh yeah I never stray out of NEPOC.

Anyway, for those who don't know, I'm an avid roadie...have 560miles in so far this year and many more to go. I'm doing the 70mi Livestrong challenge in August, which is very hilly, so I'm training for that.

Rig is a '02 Trek 1000 that was my 16th b-day present back then (eek!). Upgrades have included CF fork, CF seatpost, Forte Titan wheels (27mm v-section), Gatorskin shoes and Sigma wireless comp. w/cadence.

I run MTB SPD pedals because I like being able to walk around off the bike in the shoes.

http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c54102/x2_1030b57

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs342.ash1/29272_507014976845_108400085_30148165_1914908_n.jp g

[CWPspeed3]

^haha i know the feeling, i rarely stray out of the regional random thread.

I just put a bike computer on this weekend so hopefully I'll be able to get a better idea of how far/fast I'm riding instead of just going by trail guide lengths. Even going by posted lengths I'm over 400 miles so far on trails.

[coyfish]

Im nearing 700 on the year. Only ride 1X a week too :).

[NETC_Redd]

just did 11 around the mtn...

http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ct/new%20hartford/697127557558914717

[reut1]

got my first road bike the other day. 03 Felt F35R

just ordered some shimano shoes and Look Keo classic pedals. gotta get some shorts with chamois too, rode just 20 miles the other day in running shorts and my ass hurt!

[THE Phen]

I can't wait to get home. I'm taking my road bike out so that Ashley doesn't yell at me anymore. ;)

[Rosshole]

sweet... it is raining here, so I may have to hit up the rollers tonight.

[i12drivemyMP5]

Rain to me just means puttin shit in ziplocks, dressing a bit differently & breaking out the all weather bike. When you have 14, there's one for every occasion and then some. Rain is cool to ride in as long as it doesn't include lightning, lol. Do offroad, at night, in a rainstorm....good for the soul. Just gotta know your trail, bike and limits. Ride people Ride! I have a Bianchi Rollo and one of the stickers on the frame says: Rollo says more clowns on more bikes more often. You'd have to know this bike to understand. It started out being some crazy cafe racer thing but I turned it into an urban assault disc single speed with 4" travel fork. Someday I really need to do a fresh photo shoot of all my bikes. I ride in snow, rain, mud, night, day, wind...it's all good!

[Rosshole]

I do more than just ride, and the handling skills that come with rollers are worth spending some time on tem occasionally.

[NETC_Redd]

I can't wait to get home. I'm taking my road bike out so that Ashley doesn't yell at me anymore. ;)

muhhahahahaha

I did these two hills yesterday with a friend. Made Phen say ouch.

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/ma/south-hamilton/489127574711811749

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/ma/south-hamilton/538127574727037070

[i12drivemyMP5]

I do more than just ride, and the handling skills that come with rollers are worth spending some time on tem occasionally.Just took my wife's bike off the trainer in her workout room since I got her a recumbent workout bike for in there so now I have scarfed up her spare women's Gary Fisher frame she wasn't using from the attic and threw on some spare rims, thumb shifter, single speed crankset 44t, a big comfy seat & some riser bars with some nice comfy ergo grips and have it set up in the 3rd garage/bike shop facing out the door for my permanent trainer setup. The way the garage faces it always has wind blowing in so I can just open the door, crank up the tunes and pedal pedal pedal. I used her old frame so it'd be easier to mount/dismount. Not sure how often I'll use it tho, I like the actual riding regardless of conditions too much, lol. I know it isn't rollers, those would be interesting to try tho.......

[CWPspeed3]

well i broke the 500 mile mark over the weekend. its been pretty wet here lately but i managed to average 13mph over a 24mile trail on saturday

[iracemine]

donate your turd TODAY!

[speedracr79]

Im not a cyclist but I was at a gas station and this guy came in riding a complete carbon fiber bike obviously there was a little metal and rubber, but it weighed practically nothing I picked it up with 2 fingers

[araw at bituin]

just posting pictures i've taken of my brother's bikes. he still has the first three. rest have been sold.

http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2458/dsc0219i.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1400/dsc0131wv.jpg
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http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3028/iroi.jpg
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[THE Phen]

I've been considering another mountain bike. I have a Redline Monocog 29er right now that I love... but lately some friends of mine want to ride places where gears would be beneficial. My favorite trails are best on the single speed, so I don't want to give that up. Perhaps another 29er?

[CWPspeed3]

the trails i ride are better suited to 26" wheels as they are narrow and a lot of tight corners so i dont have any experience with 29ers

i've been considering a road bike since i only have a mountain bike. this "spring" is so wet i've only been able to ride once. either way i have to drive somewhere to ride.

[THE Phen]

I've got a road bike as well. I put way more miles on that per year than the mountain bike.

[rally2003]

I need to get another road bike. I sold mine almost 3 years ago and only have a DB mountain bike - the mountains :( She is a great trail bike, but a bit heavy for steeper inclines.

[Rosshole]

weather has been shit so far this spring up here, but I fully intend to put on at least 4 thousand miles this season.

[CWPspeed3]

weather has been shit so far this spring up here, but I fully intend to put on at least 4 thousand miles this season.

same here, last year i started riding the trails march 16th, this year i have only been out four times due to all the damn rain. making me really consider getting a road bike. roads dry a lot faster than trails.

[Rosshole]

same here, last year i started riding the trails march 16th, this year i have only been out four times due to all the damn rain. making me really consider getting a road bike. roads dry a lot faster than trails.

that is the exact reason that I bought my first road bike. Then a tri bike... the rest is history.

[iracemine]

the rest is he is married to my buddy frank. lost two friends that day.

[03zoomzoom]

Well, there are some bikers on here. I'm in the market for a new bike. My old Huffy from 15 yrs ago is just not gonna cut it. Way too small and starting to fall apart. The bike store by work has "Giant" brand bikes. Anybody heard about them? I was checking out the Giant Revel 2.

[Foolish]

Giant's bikes are fine. They are a HUGE manufacturer of bikes, building frames for several other bike companies. They've been around for quite a while, too. As far as I know, none of their bikes are U.S. made. That may or may not matter to you, though. Frankly, finding a U.S. built bike under about $1800 is about impossible.

I've had 2 Giant Road bikes. Both were great. I only moved on from my TCR because I wanted a steel frame cyclocross (on/off road) bike, instead of an aluminum road bike.

[03zoomzoom]

yeah, I saw that they were made across the pond. Not a big deal to me. Heck, just about everything is made over there these days. I just can't really fit on my old 24" Huffy anymore. ha ha ha. Perhaps, 15 yrs ago when I got it. I'm still thinking about just going back to walmart or somewhere like that to pick up one for $150 or so. Are these Giant bikes worth double that? Mostly I'll be riding for exercise and just getting out to meet some people at events. I'm far from the hardcore trailblazing or racing.

[Foolish]

Yes, "bike shop bikes" actually are way better than toy store BSO's (Bike Shaped Objects). Lighter, better made, with more reliable components. Also, they're built by bike shop mechanics, rather than by the guy that builds the Power Wheels and swingsets. also, you'll get warranty and some level of free repair support from a good bike shop.

[judman13]

Check around for craigslist and ebay to see if any quality bikes are listed. I have bought 3 used bikes so far. One got stolen and sold the other when to upgrade to my current bike. As long as they frame is in good shape and it stops and shifts you should be golden. Plus they are a heck of a lot cheaper for a quality bike.

[03zoomzoom]

I picked up my new bike today! Can't wait to hit the trails.

[judman13]

I would chunk those urban tires and that HUGE seat!! Get some real gear on that bike before you hit the trails.

What year is that giant? I cant remember when they made frames in that style.

[03zoomzoom]

I thought about putting on some "road style" tires, but those are what came on the bike. Mostly I'll be starting on paved paths around town. I ended up getting that bigger seat, cause it's been 12 yrs or so since I've ridden a bike. I took my old bike out a few weeks ago, and the seat killed me. So, I decided to get a bigger and softer seat till I get used to riding again. My guess is it's a current model year bike. http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/revel.2.black.blue/7509/44109/

[CWPspeed3]

id recommend going to dicks sports and picking up a pair of quest padded riding shorts. i mention them because they are a cheap $20 pair and if you dont like them oh well. most other options are upwards of $70.

[03zoomzoom]

id recommend going to dicks sports and picking up a pair of quest padded riding shorts. i mention them because they are a cheap $20 pair and if you dont like them oh well. most other options are upwards of $70.

I'll have to check into those. I took my first ride on the new bike today! It really surprised me how much easier it was to ride on an adult size bike. It almost cut my time in half! I did have to make a few small adjustments on the bike. Just angle of the shift levers and brake levers. One thing I can't figure out was, my old bike had "extra" handles on the end of the handlebar. Do they make those any more? I've noticed once I start to wear down, I miss having those handles to sit a little more upright.

[CWPspeed3]

the end bars? personally i like the ergon grips, dont loose feeling in my little finger after a long ride and still have small bars on the end.

http://media.rei.com/media/ww/76dc1ff7-14b0-4575-a907-7345d3f63222.jpg

[03zoomzoom]

yeah, they're really similar to that. The ones I've seen online so far are really short. The ones I had on my old bike were much longer. almost an "L" shape off the handlebar.