Who wants dibs on the XEDE PnP System?

[Speedy3]

Any updates on PnP availability?

[magoo]

Sorry all but PnP Xede is DOA. Spoke to the manufacturer (Chiptorque in Australia) and they have written it off. After exhaustive efforts to source key components but without any success the project has been terminated.

[Speedy3]

Sorry all but PnP Xede is DOA. Spoke to the manufacturer (Chiptorque in Australia) and they have written it off. After exhaustive efforts to source key components but without any success the project has been terminated.

I think hearing that from Bell would be appropriate.

[magoo]

Up to you but chiptorque are the designers and manufacturer. They were the group actually chasing the Pnp. After chasing throughout Aus/US/EUR they came up blank with some necessary components. You will find that its dead

[Alexthedon22]

there are still selling the chip for 899$ on they web site,

they said its available. and comes with the pnp harness


http://chiptorque.com



why everyone said its terminated,
are they talking only about the PNP feature ?

cause the chip is still on sale,
I tought its came with the pNp harness,

[Haltech]

Why buy a chip that cant be reprogrammed for your mods later down the road? Worst idea ever my friend.

[desperado-c]

there are still selling the chip for 899$ on they web site,

they said its available. and comes with the pnp harness


http://chiptorque.com



why everyone said its terminated,
are they talking only about the PNP feature ?

cause the chip is still on sale,
I tought its came with the pNp harness,

I see nothing about PnP. I think Stephanie would have let us know if it was available.

[Speedy3]

STEPHANIE!!!! Get out of your Miata and talk to us!!!!

[CMSS2000]

The XEDE is not just a chip. It is a programmable piggyback. The harness it comes with is only the part that plugs into the XEDE, not the part that plugs into your car. The part that plugs into your car is what everyone is talking about to make it PNP. Hope this helps.

[AutoXRacer]

I gave up on the PnP for piggy backs... Now my sight is set on the Cobb AP...hopefully they can come up with something...?

Though, I am not holding my breath...

I was so psyched about the Xede with PnP... (sad2)
I've just given up hope...

[redspeed]

I think the xede is pretty much dead. We haven't heard any news in months.

[CX-7owner]

It says that it's now available via the PG website, and that it hit 300WTQ VIA the dyno.

[Speedy3]

It says that it's now available via the PG website, and that it hit 300WTQ VIA the dyno.

It is being sold, but not as PnP.

[detsilverms3]

Why buy a chip that cant be reprogrammed for your mods later down the road? Worst idea ever my friend.

well if Diablo had anything for our cars they have dual sided chips so you could run two programs. i think they have a couple different options as well that i cant remember too much about at the moment. i was running the dual sided chip in my focus and it worked great. plus i remember them selling their flashing module too.

[Haltech]

well if Diablo had anything for our cars they have dual sided chips so you could run two programs. i think they have a couple different options as well that i cant remember too much about at the moment. i was running the dual sided chip in my focus and it worked great. plus i remember them selling their flashing module too.

I know Patrick at Diablo and they arent going into the mazda market. Their bread and butter these days are Chevy. If anyone in the Domestic market is going to go for it, it will be SCT with a Flash module. They have serious inside connections with Ford/Mazdas/Volvo.

[Captain KRM P5]

I think the xede is pretty much dead. We haven't heard any news in months.

plug and play harnesses are here in the states, available for the mazdaspeed6. we will advertise those when we have enough to go around and testing is done.

[builthatch]

guys....

i just got word from Vishnu that they are working on a PROcede P&P for the MS3.

did anyone else know this???

[SwampAss]

guys....

i just got word from Vishnu that they are working on a PROcede P&P for the MS3.

did anyone else know this???

HAHA OMG NO ORLY 4 SERIOUS?


it's been in the "works" for over a year with a slew of release dates.

[builthatch]

HAHA OMG NO ORLY 4 SERIOUS?


it's been in the "works" for over a year with a slew of release dates.

oh, the PROcede? i've not seen anything about this and the mazdaspeed3 when searching, just XEDE.......

EDIT: 'cept one thread on another board.

[Captain KRM P5]

we have a standalone that will hopefully be ready and more feature filled than any vishnu product this year.

[SwampAss]

oh, the PROcede? i've not seen anything about this and the mazdaspeed3 when searching, just XEDE.......

EDIT: 'cept one thread on another board.


oops. My mistake. I saw XEDE. feel free to slap me.

[desperado-c]

we have a standalone that will hopefully be ready and more feature filled than any vishnu product this year.

Updated Xede, or you just saying that Procede won't make it out this year?

[Captain KRM P5]

i don't think procede is going to be out this year and the standalone we are developing will have nothing to do with xede if and when it hits this year.

[desperado-c]

i don't think procede is going to be out this year and the standalone we are developing will have nothing to do with xede if and when it hits this year.

Right, duh, if it's standalone it's not Xede. Sounds like you're taking off a big bite!

[redspeed]

the standalone we are developing will have nothing to do with xede if and when it hits this year.

Wow, How is that coming along? Hmmm, so many options for the near future.

[Speedy3]

What the hell are these developers thinking? I mean my 2007 MS3 already has 25K miles on it and 2008 is the last year of production. If they don't get some gawd dam tuning unit out now, these cars will have wrinkles by the time they do and their joints will hurt too much to run fast....

Did ya like that talk swampass?

[Captain KRM P5]

What the hell are these developers thinking? I mean my 2007 MS3 already has 25K miles on it and 2008 is the last year of production. If they don't get some gawd dam tuning unit out now, these cars will have wrinkles by the time they do and their joints will hurt too much to run fast....

Did ya like that talk swampass?

if you think you got it rough, try owning a mazdaspeed protege :)


Wow, How is that coming along? Hmmm, so many options for the near future.

well the chipset was supposed to be ready a year ago, so we'll see what happens this year.

[SwampAss]

What the hell are these developers thinking? I mean my 2007 MS3 already has 25K miles on it and 2008 is the last year of production. If they don't get some gawd dam tuning unit out now, these cars will have wrinkles by the time they do and their joints will hurt too much to run fast....

Did ya like that talk swampass?


you use your tongue prettier'n a $20 whore /taggart

[Speedy3]

you use your tongue prettier'n a $20 whore /taggart

Oh, come on. You know that a $20 ho doesn't talk. It's the $15 hoes that talk cause they're too damn ugly for anything else.

[Speedy3]

Report from Stephanie:

We are trying to make the Xede PNP for the MS3. I also need those connectors for another applications too. Since Mazda is not helping us, we are looking into having them custom made.
Thanks,
Stephanie

[redrocketz]

Report from Stephanie:

We are trying to make the Xede PNP for the MS3. I also need those connectors for another applications too. Since Mazda is not helping us, we are looking into having them custom made.
Thanks,
Stephanie

we should have something here by the weekend stay tuned...

[Captain KRM P5]

jeez zach can't we have any surprises around here ;)

[Speedy3]

jeez zach can't we have any surprises around here ;)

It's my fault..

[trufanatic]

unfortunately i dont see a PnP harness happening too soon for the MS3 if ever. if it does happen we'll be paying a premium for it seeing that only a small portion of speeds are made and a smaller portion are actual modders.

mmm, whats that saying....people in hell want ice water?

[Speedy3]

unfortunately i dont see a PnP harness happening too soon for the MS3 if ever. if it does happen we'll be paying a premium for it seeing that only a small portion of speeds are made and a smaller portion are actual modders.

mmm, whats that saying....people in hell want ice water?

They need the connector for another application other than the speed 3, so it's not just for the speed 3.

[mrlilguy157]

whattttt????? Ken or zach. why haven't i been informed.... i'm mr. big turbo right now... i could use some decent tuning :D

[redrocketz]

the ECU is the same for the 3 and speed3 along with the 5 and probably some other cars that I don't know of and the problem with getting the connectors is that the ecu is a giant piece of molded plastic so it isn't just a connector you need the whole housing. but like I said give us roughly a week or less and you will be pleasantly surprised.

[weedo]

the ECU is the same for the 3 and speed3 along with the 5 and probably some other cars that I don't know of and the problem with getting the connectors is that the ecu is a giant piece of molded plastic so it isn't just a connector you need the whole housing. but like I said give us roughly a week or less and you will be pleasantly surprised.

I have "cash" ready to go! And I'm drooling on my keyboard! (naughty)

Can't wait to hear what you guys have. I'm going nuts waiting for a nice tune!

[trufanatic]

the ECU is the same for the 3 and speed3 along with the 5 and probably some other cars that I don't know of and the problem with getting the connectors is that the ecu is a giant piece of molded plastic so it isn't just a connector you need the whole housing. but like I said give us roughly a week or less and you will be pleasantly surprised.

thats like messing with my emotions. teasing isnt allowed when it comes to my modding and me putting money in PG's pocket.

[Captain KRM P5]

whattttt????? Ken or zach. why haven't i been informed.... i'm mr. big turbo right now... i could use some decent tuning :D

i thought you did not want any of the current systems on the market?


unfortunately i dont see a PnP harness happening too soon for the MS3 if ever. if it does happen we'll be paying a premium for it seeing that only a small portion of speeds are made and a smaller portion are actual modders.

mmm, whats that saying....people in hell want ice water?

we are making one this weekend. the parts are in our hands.

[SAVAGE70]

Wait a minute. Captain u said the parts are in your hands and u will be making a PnP harness for the Speed3 this weekend correct?

[redrocketz]

Wait a minute. Captain u said the parts are in your hands and u will be making a PnP harness for the Speed3 this weekend correct?

I will be yes. we will be testing one out.

[trufanatic]

I will be yes. we will be testing one out.

Whats the likelyhood of mass production and turn around on this? CP-E has "claim" to be testing a harness for a while now........ and nothing.

[AutoXRacer]

Will this be solely for the Xede or other piggy back...?

[redrocketz]

we will be able to make it for any thing on the market so Xede, Procede, and Standback.

as it stands right now it is still a prototype remember that and will more than likely be on a made to order basis as it stands but if demand is there we will of course make more. We will have the ecu harness and then wire in which ever unit you wanted or even leave that up to you to do if you already have the unit.

[SAVAGE70]

So we will be able to choose our own unit? Hey redrocketz in your opinion what unit do u think is the most flexible and make the most power...the Xede, the Procede, or the Standback?

[trufanatic]

So we will be able to choose our own unit? Hey redrocketz in your opinion what unit do u think is the most flexible and make the most power...the Xede, the Procede, or the Standback?

touchy question

[Captain KRM P5]

So we will be able to choose our own unit? Hey redrocketz in your opinion what unit do u think is the most flexible and make the most power...the Xede, the Procede, or the Standback?

a harness is a harness is a harness. a plug and play harness is basically a jumper that goes between the factory harness and factory ecu with the same plugs. whatever system you pick you would wire to the PnP harness rather than the factory harness. then when you want to remove the system, unplug the harness and reconnect the ECU to the factory wiring and voila, back to stock. its going to function the same regardless of system chosen. many of the systems even tap into the same wires for some of thier functions.

as for the "which system is the best system" question, thats a loaded question with no simple answer. every system has its fanboys and will readily tell you thier system of choice is superior with no drawbacks. we've had a great deal of success with XEDE on this and other cars. we have no real experience with ProCEDE so i'm not going to make a value judgement without having a system to play with.

[SAVAGE70]

Just curious any results from the weekend test?

[Captain KRM P5]

harness is 3/4 of the way done and we will test it on a car once it is. i was out of town and there were some minor melodramas to address here so it did not get completed as planned.

[meha11]

a harness is a harness is a harness. a plug and play harness is basically a jumper that goes between the factory harness and factory ecu with the same plugs. whatever system you pick you would wire to the PnP harness rather than the factory harness.

Your terminology confuses me, will the xede be plug and play or does it need to be wired to this intercepting harness?
To me it sounds like your making a harness extension so any piggyback can be spliced into it.

Please clarify.

[CMSS2000]

Your terminology confuses me, will the xede be plug and play or does it need to be wired to this intercepting harness?
To me it sounds like your making a harness extension so any piggyback can be spliced into it.

Please clarify.

You got it. Any Piggyback can be plug-n-play if you have the harness that fits the car (in this case MS3). Just wire your favorite piggyback into the harness and plug the harness into the MS3 stock connectors.

[meha11]

You got it. Any Piggyback can be plug-n-play if you have the harness that fits the car (in this case MS3). Just wire your favorite piggyback into the harness and plug the harness into the MS3 stock connectors.

So it is not plug and play then.

[Captain KRM P5]

you cannot remove the factory ECU and plug something in place of it if thats what you mean. you have a harness with male ends and female ends. this is connected to the piggyback. you take that and plug it into the ecu and then plug it into the car. thats plug and play.

[builthatch]

you cannot remove the factory ECU and plug something in place of it if thats what you mean. right, that's a standalone. if someone came out with a true P&P standalone that is affordable (something like apexi power fc)...i think the world would come to an end!

[meha11]

you cannot remove the factory ECU and plug something in place of it if thats what you mean. you have a harness with male ends and female ends. this is connected to the piggyback. you take that and plug it into the ecu and then plug it into the car. thats plug and play.

No thats not what i mean, maybe i am still misunderstood.
I see 2 distinct ways for you to do this, each with its own advantage. I had typed up a huge response but i find myself confusing the matter so i'll leave it alone.

I'll just wait and see what happens.

[redrocketz]

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123700836

[meha11]

ok, thanks

[SAVAGE70]

Any news or results from the testing? Or is it still being put through tests? So far what are teh results?

[redrocketz]

For the 3 or the 6?
The 6 is good to go on a few cars now and the 3 was tested and worked and is being installed onto a car here very shortly.

[SAVAGE70]

Sorry the Speed3
For the 3 or the 6?
The 6 is good to go on a few cars now and the 3 was tested and worked and is being installed onto a car here very shortly.