Guess who wins?!?!?! Racing mazda5, mazda8, Honda Odyssey, & Honda Stream.

[quadcore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU4paH8qcQ8

Just another example of Honda is not as good as people believe it is...

[Akaveli]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU4paH8qcQ8

Just another example of Honda is not as good as people believe it is...

(uhm)

[Foolish]

When was the last time you saw a Honda commercial touting the racing prowess of their minivans? .....oh, right, never....Yeah.... So.... What?

[671_p5]

hehe crazy understeer :D

[dommo_g]

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123661526

[Antonio DiMarco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU4paH8qcQ8

Just another example of Honda is not as good as people believe it is...


That was funny.

[coolmazda5]

Every time I see a new thread on this very same video reminds me of why Rondos, Quests, Siennas or Odysseys are not an option for me (yupnope)...

Reality is that it doesn't matter how powerful a car engine is (v6, v8) if its handling sucks :D

ROTFL (drive2)

[vashpr]

Damn nice video!! Thx
i just got a mazda 5 about 3 weeks ago and i love it. (drive)

[$chocker]

Never thought I'd see footage of a 5 getting flogged so hard! Fantastic! Notice how little understeer it shows? You can easily see some trail braking oversteer on corner entry. Love it.

[Zoom5Zoom]

Great Video

Now I can really drive the shit out of my 5 and know it will hold the corners....

just great

[zoomzoomV]

am i the only one who digs the new look on the mpv? its hot

[jandree22]

I by no means got anywhere close to these nuts, but I did just get back from a night twisties drive in the woods. I was just going about my business having fun until I'd catch up to a car, then I'd back off out of courtesy. Well, the one guy sped up so I engaged and we ended up having quite the chase for a few miles. He was faster through the straights but I consistently caught up in the bends. Ha, I almost lost it at one point as I took a turn too hard at the crest of a hill... it was a sharper drop off than I remembered and I slid to the right an inch or two before I regained grip, oops!

Got up to a red light when we exited the woods and I finally was close enough to investigate my buddy. It was a late generation Tiburon with mods. I hope he looked in his rear view under the street light and dropped his jaw when he realized a minivan spanked him through the twisties :D

[aMaff]

Minivan d0r1ft00000!!1!!!!one!

I'm actually surprised at how well the 5 rotated, it was the only 1 that was coming around the corners with some decency

[a10thunder]

Thanks for the video. I haven't seen it before. I don't understand your Honda comment though. Honda never advertised the Odyssey or Stream as track vehicles.

There was no question that the Mazda5 would win this race. The 5 is pretty much a taller Mazda3 with a bit more torque, which is perfect for a track like this. I expected the Stream to fair better, but it's apparent that the Stream has the least power in this group. It was taking the turns a lot faster than the Odyssey but just didn't have enough power to pass. I wonder if Stream has the 1.8L or 2.0L. The 2.0L comes with a CVT which is not good for racing.

[coolmazda5]

Thanks for the video. I haven't seen it before. I don't understand your Honda comment though. Honda never advertised the Odyssey or Stream as track vehicles.

Hey a10thunder,

With regards to Honda. I agree with 100% your comments yet I would like to also ponder the following:


I have not seen a Stream in the US, but many people compare the MZ5 to the minivan style and functionality of the Siennas or Odysseys, possibly that is why. Now, to certain degree, due to the MZ5 design and main target market, I agree, it is somehow true, but even if the extra money is there to spend, it was a no go for us. Example: no 5MT as an option.

Off the Honda stigma (I have a Honda myself) :D, there was a good conversation sometime ago in this forum about Rondo's V6 "power" compared to the "small" I4 from MZ5. As said earlier, I agree with that any V6 horsepower as long as it is a drag style race (straight line). That could burn the MZ5 heads down. Now, I seriously doubt the Rondos, Siennas or Odysseys can manage the curves the way the MZ5 did (as you say, due to the MZ3 car platform). Also, yes, I acknowledge we didn't buy a full powered sports car when choosing the MZ5 (i.e. MazdaSpeed3, MazdaSpeed6 or an RX-8), but, hey, the 5MT and low-er profile do the power management and handling job much better compared to V6 "minivans" we have driven (including a 2006 Mazda MPV) regardless of the under power. Even wife does not like auto trannys after driving the MPV (sun). 5MT on high-er RPMs is decently powered.


Now, good point, I have not seen any MZ5 advertisement comparing it to a real track car either. All the MZ5 commercials I've seen emphasize it as a people mover, with happy families or chauffeur services kind of thing

[nocturne1]

The 5 isn't only faster than those cars - it's also faster than a Lotus Elise! Enjoy: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2024594312

;)

[tsunami]

rofl...

[jandree22]

that was hilarious!

[Antonio DiMarco]

The 5 isn't only faster than those cars - it's also faster than a Lotus Elise! Enjoy: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2024594312

;)

I wonder how much of that was staged?

[nocturne1]

I wonder how much of that was staged?
Wasn't staged at all - it just happened like that. The Elise actually was slowed down by traffic, and the 5 was chasing to catch up and ended up blowing by.

FYI, I wasn't involved in this, but am friends with them.

[jandree22]

The Elise actually was slowed down by traffic
Yeah I did notice that dickweed in the maroon chevy truck that shot over two lanes just to put an end to the Lotus' fun. The Lotus was further screwed by only holding two people while the 5 clearly had passengers in the back (HOV lane ownage)

...2 seconds later, enter the 5 :cool:

[coolmazda5]

The 5 isn't only faster than those cars - it's also faster than a Lotus Elise! Enjoy: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2024594312

;)

Ha Ha Ha!, Did you see the unbeatable performance and flexibility of the MZ5 when it took that carpool lane? No effort at all! On your face one-two passenger Lotus vehicles! ROTFL :D

[coolmazda5]

Ha Ha Ha!, Did you see the unbeatable performance and flexibility of the MZ5 when it took that carpool lane? No effort at all! On your face one-two passenger Lotus vehicles! ROTFL :D


Now, without the sarcastic joke ;), I was driving back home today and got stuck in traffic next to a yellowish (?) Lotus Elise. Whooaa, that is a serious sports Car, with capital C. The only thing that made me feel "equal" to the situation was the fact that we were both in full-stop mode on a completely jammed road (eekdance) he he...

[aMaff]

Yeah, those elises are no joke. Pure sex on wheels. My miata can only try ;) lol

[jandree22]

Yeah, those elises are no joke. Pure sex on wheels.
If you want gut wrenching acceleration, $45k gets you a 400hp C6 Vette. If you want gut wrenching twisty grip, $45k gets you a Lotus Elise. Decisions, decisions... oh wait, damn... I don't have $45k (sad2)

[aMaff]

I'd rather grip...

[starlightmica]

Chased down a WRX STI on a S-shaped Beltway on-ramp this AM in speeds >55mph which I used to do regularly in my Miata. I'm sure he was surprised to see my headlights pulling up to him.

[king57721]

When was the last time you saw a Honda commercial touting the racing prowess of their minivans? .....oh, right, never....Yeah.... So.... What?

well... the video is for those die-hard Honda Fans who always said "Honda has the best engine, Honda handle the best, Honda is the best, Honda's shit smell better..."

and I just saw a commercial of Honda minivans... driving though the mountian road and the wife griping the handle tight... well... the point is... Honda is advertiseing thier minivan as Power and handle well...

[2ride4life]

does anyone know what vid this clip is taken from?

thanks

[da1nonly]

The 5 isn't only faster than those cars - it's also faster than a Lotus Elise! Enjoy: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2024594312

;)

link doesnt work for me??? brings me to a page with several videos to choose from...

[2cam16]

link doesnt work for me??? brings me to a page with several videos to choose from...

Linky no worky. (argh)

[BadKarma]

Wasn't that Keiichi Tsuchiya driving the Mazda5?

[2cam16]

Wasn't that Keiichi Tsuchiya driving the Mazda5?
Yes it is. The original "Dorikin".
Must be an Option or Best Motoring video.

[2ride4life]

that is exactly what I thought, I would love to see the whole episode ... and read the subtitling to see what they are saying while they are racing.

[2cam16]

that is exactly what I thought, I would love to see the whole episode ... and read the subtitling to see what they are saying while they are racing.
If you can find out the episode #, I'm sure the video can be found somewhere here on the internet or in a store.

[coolmazda5]

that is exactly what I thought, I would love to see the whole episode ... and read the subtitling to see what they are saying while they are racing.

Apart from 'Arigato', 'Konichiwa', 'Mazda' and 'Kampai' I don't know too much Japanese but in one of the takes it seems that Keiichi is saying "Eat my dust Honda..." (flame2) (yes)

[king57721]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU4paH8qcQ8

[paging_drburgos]

am i the only one who digs the new look on the mpv? its hot

i like it too. its a grown up mazda 5. too bad we'll never see it.