2800 miles on MS3 w/ check engine light

[rodney]

I was driving home yesterday and just as i got to the stop light to turn on my street, my car started to studder and wouldn't let me go past 3,000 rpm. check engine light came on, along with my traction control light staying on. now my car will start but idles high and my gas pedal was like a dead peddle and would'nt let me do anything. just floored it and the rpm's didn't move. so i scanned the light, and came up with 4 codes, all for my pedal position sensor for low input to 4 different circuits. i am gonna have to tow it to the dealer, but i am running open exhaust so i have to put that together in the morning before i tow it in so i dont void my warranty.

so i was wondering if anyone else has had this problem besides me on the MS3

[dread]

wow that sucks, this is the first I have heard of a problem with the pedal position sensor. Let us know how it works out and good luck.

[rodney]

It Has Been A Week Already In The Shop , They Replaced The Throttle Body, And Throttle Pos. Sensor, The Replaced The Pedal Pos. Sensor, And Both Of Those Didn't Make A Difference. So The Test To See If The Pcm Was Good, And It Turns Out That It Isn't So They Ordered A New Pcm And There Waiting For One Now And Hopefully This Fixes The Problem(s). It Has Already Been There For Over A Week And Half Already.

[voiceKoil]

It Has Been A Week Already In The Shop , They Replaced The Throttle Body, And Throttle Pos. Sensor, The Replaced The Pedal Pos. Sensor, And Both Of Those Didn't Make A Difference. So The Test To See If The Pcm Was Good, And It Turns Out That It Isn't So They Ordered A New Pcm And There Waiting For One Now And Hopefully This Fixes The Problem(s). It Has Already Been There For Over A Week And Half Already.


Any updates?

[M3_Zoom]

WOW! Now that's what I call an extreme issue. Let us know the outcome and what the cause of the failure was.

[Scott]

Ah, the beauties of DBW systems.

[speedi3]

I was driving home yesterday and just as i got to the stop light to turn on my street, my car started to studder and wouldn't let me go past 3,000 rpm. check engine light came on, along with my traction control light staying on. now my car will start but idles high and my gas pedal was like a dead peddle and would'nt let me do anything. just floored it and the rpm's didn't move. so i scanned the light, and came up with 4 codes, all for my pedal position sensor for low input to 4 different circuits. i am gonna have to tow it to the dealer, but i am running open exhaust so i have to put that together in the morning before i tow it in so i dont void my warranty.

so i was wondering if anyone else has had this problem besides me on the MS3


Sorry to hear your about your problem and i hope that its fixed by the time you read this... What is an open exhaust?

[rodney]

an open exhaust is when you are just running it from the down pipe, anyways they blamed it on the exhaust melting some of the wire harness and nothing was getting the right signal i faught it and after a month they decide this bs, so i went to the dealer yesterday and said screw you im gonna just tow it out of hear . so then they wanted to charge me for the rental and the labor put into it so far and i told them to show me a paper where i authorized to pay anything at all and all they had that i signed was that it was going to be warranty and a paper saying the rental was covered at mazda's expense. so im taking them to the court of law, i already have an attorney. and also when i towed my car back to my work it was in complete stripped ,carpet, wiring,seats, roof , basically bare sheet metal so it took me all day to repair the harness and put everything back the way it was.

[matsuda]

an open exhaust is when you are just running it from the down pipe, anyways they blamed it on the exhaust melting some of the wire harness and nothing was getting the right signal i faught it and after a month they decide this bs, so i went to the dealer yesterday and said screw you im gonna just tow it out of hear . so then they wanted to charge me for the rental and the labor put into it so far and i told them to show me a paper where i authorized to pay anything at all and all they had that i signed was that it was going to be warranty and a paper saying the rental was covered at mazda's expense. so im taking them to the court of law, i already have an attorney. and also when i towed my car back to my work it was in complete stripped ,carpet, wiring,seats, roof , basically bare sheet metal so it took me all day to repair the harness and put everything back the way it was.
Let me get this straight...

You screwed up your car and you are upset that is was not covered under warranty?

[NSX MS3]

is your car fixed yet?

moral: buy a 3" exhaust j.k.

[gsrtype1]

dude that sucks, my freind cut his is exhuats of from the cats back but not from the down pipe back i'll tell him what happend to you

[BSTD3]

Let me get this straight...

You screwed up your car and you are upset that is was not covered under warranty?

I thought the same thing?

[evilmonkeyMSP]

hopefully mazda comes and finds this thread and you'll be done for in court ;)

[Kosh]

Did the open exhaust really cause the wires to melt? It would have to get heat through the heat shield under the car to get to those wires if I'm thinking of the right ones. If it was the open exhaust that caused the problem then you should drop your case and own up to your mod. I don't think wires just melt on their own.

[Young Roids]

Yo Rodney do everyone a favor and never try to get warranty work done again. It's people like you who ruin it for the rest of us. You really don't get it do you, why should anyone help you when you obviously caused the problem with your open exhast. no wonder dealers act like aholes to everybody.

[CaSHMeRe]

I was driving home yesterday and just as i got to the stop light to turn on my street, my car started to studder and wouldn't let me go past 3,000 rpm. check engine light came on, along with my traction control light staying on. now my car will start but idles high and my gas pedal was like a dead peddle and would'nt let me do anything. just floored it and the rpm's didn't move. so i scanned the light, and came up with 4 codes, all for my pedal position sensor for low input to 4 different circuits. i am gonna have to tow it to the dealer, but i am running open exhaust so i have to put that together in the morning before i tow it in so i dont void my warranty.

so i was wondering if anyone else has had this problem besides me on the MS3


and that is what happens when you run an open dump (evil)

[camrycev6]

Unfortunately, this is one of the risks you take when you put unauthorized mods on your car. I can empathize with your situation, but I cannot feel sorry for you. You had to know this going in. Good luck with it.

[Jesse MS3GT]

I had the same exact issue with my car a few weeks back... Had it towedx to the dealer and they claimed "no codes present" or any CEL on the car. Yeah, they just disc the battery seeing as all my presets were gone. Seems to run alright now though

[serialtoon]

This is the sole reason why i havent installed ANY mods on my car. My previous car has a few things put in and when the dealer saw it, automatically blammed it. Im keeping this baby stock, so if anything happens, they dont have any mod to blame.

[CaSHMeRe]

This is the sole reason why i havent installed ANY mods on my car. My previous car has a few things put in and when the dealer saw it, automatically blammed it. Im keeping this baby stock, so if anything happens, they dont have any mod to blame.

and you will live the life of a boring MS3 owner ... (laugh)

[MS3ICA]

I had the same exact issue with my car a few weeks back... Had it towedx to the dealer and they claimed "no codes present" or any CEL on the car. Yeah, they just disc the battery seeing as all my presets were gone. Seems to run alright now though

since you had the same problem and your not running an open dp, and someother guy on here was running an open dp and did not have this issue.... maybe the open dp was never the problem? yet everyone blamed rodney., see what happens when people jump to conclusions

[serialtoon]

and you will live the life of a boring MS3 owner ... (laugh)
Heck, i came from an Automatic 130hp car to this....so trust me, i am NOT bored. (direct)

[knowledge007]

Unfortunately, this is one of the risks you take when you put unauthorized mods on your car. I can empathize with your situation, but I cannot feel sorry for you. You had to know this going in. Good luck with it.

First off, he did not install a part on this car. He took the complete stock CBE off. But I do agree with everyone else...this was a stupid idea to run nothing but a stock downpipe. I hope everyone gets a chance to see this thread.

[Young Roids]

This is the sole reason why i havent installed ANY mods on my car. My previous car has a few things put in and when the dealer saw it, automatically blammed it. Im keeping this baby stock, so if anything happens, they dont have any mod to blame.
Yup I agree. THe dealer will take anyhting and twist it to make him more money. Don't give a dealer ammo by having mods on your car.


and you will live the life of a boring MS3 owner ... (laugh)I plan to mod after the warranty expires, if I really want mod much at all. I would like to mod as problems arise when the exhast gets a leak in it then get a new 3" exhast. Something inside of me hates to take off a brand new part and replace it. I wanna get some use out of my stuff.


Heck, i came from an Automatic 130hp car to this....so trust me, i am NOT bored. (direct) I agree here to. 260hp is enough power for some folks, especialy in a fwd car. Some people will have alot of fun with simply a stock car.

[CaSHMeRe]

Yup I agree. THe dealer will take anyhting and twist it to make him more money. Don't give a dealer ammo by having mods on your car.

I plan to mod after the warranty expires, if I really want mod much at all. I would like to mod as problems arise when the exhast gets a leak in it then get a new 3" exhast. Something inside of me hates to take off a brand new part and replace it. I wanna get some use out of my stuff.

I agree here to. 260hp is enough power for some folks, especialy in a fwd car. Some people will have alot of fun with simply a stock car.


young roids, you do know that dealers get paid by mazda when they do warranty service work right? so why would dealers be soooo quick to throw the read flag in? if you say that dealers are all about money, then why not keep a mazda for a month trying to figure out how to fix it?

now that a screw ball for ya...figure it out!

[Young Roids]

I never have worked for a dealer before so I can't really tell you why. But I bet that they get alot more money for non warranty repairs than repairs that are under warranty. They need something to make then not want to fix stuff under warranty or else the dealsership just wouldn't run at all. If they were all bringing in tons of dough for every warranty car being fixed they would come up with millions of things to fix all the time.

[camrycev6]

young roids, you do know that dealers get paid by mazda when they do warranty service work right? so why would dealers be soooo quick to throw the read flag in? if you say that dealers are all about money, then why not keep a mazda for a month trying to figure out how to fix it?

now that a screw ball for ya...figure it out!

Actually, several reasons:

1) They get paid WAY more for non-warranty repairs.
2) They have to justify to Mazda the warranty covered repair. Depending on the situation, that may be difficult to impossible when dealing with a modded car.
3) Dealers who have a lot of warranty repairs are flagged by Mazda. In theory, they should be averaging with the rest of the dealers do. Lots of warranty repairs reflect badly on them.
4) If they get caught doing warranty repairs on modded cars, they (the dealers) can get in a lot of trouble. The policy on modification coverage is pretty detailed and lengthy. (As it is with all car companies.)

[Falconx84]

since you had the same problem and your not running an open dp, and someother guy on here was running an open dp and did not have this issue.... maybe the open dp was never the problem? yet everyone blamed rodney., see what happens when people jump to conclusions


it was NOT the same problem..... one was a glitch that needed to be reset

the other (the one this thread is about) was for MELTED WIRES (see post #8)
it's quite clear that this is a different case, so yes - we blame rodney... we can feel his pain and understand, but this is not a mazda warrenty case

please read the thread before YOU jump to conclusions

[rodney]

im the guy that everyone's talking about that ran a open stock downpipe, and i don't see how you guys buy the cars and keep them stock...(uhm). these cars have alot of hidden potental, it would be a shame to see someone waste this nice car like that. oh and by the way i had my car fixed for a couple months, the problem i had was that it back fired like flames underneath and blew a hole in the heat shield and after that happened it was able to get the floor board hot enough..to melth the body control harness.