Are there any intake for MSP that aren't so expensive?

[lyndonvang]

I been searching and can't find any SRI/CAI that are made for the MSP that aren't Fujita,Injen,AEM,WeaponR. Is there any cheap SRI/CAI for MSP? Hp gain are all about the same right?

[Wbriggs19061]

make one..other then that no real cheap intakes...

[macklum]

Pay the piper or make one as was already said , Mazda and performance together mean expensive . Not alot of people are modding Mazdas compared to other cars ,the companies have to recoupe their R&D costs somehow and we pay the price

[orng1]

you could just remove the air box and put a filter there. That was my first mod the day I picked up the car.

[Knox Joe]

You do realize all you'll gain is sound, right?

I couldn't notice the diff. over stock, and I was modded when I added mine.

[orng1]

I can't say I gained anything either.

[lisevolution]

yeah the intake is really just engine bay eye candy... the only gains you'll get is the sweet sucking sound and enhanced turkey noise from the BPV. Just add a K&N to the stock set up and you'll get the same performance gains

[orphman]

you can do a dIY for about 50$ but..... thats CAI... But... it gets heat soak quick... well 45 min driving quick... so thats why when my car is running.. lol its not on.. but if your interested ill tell you how and what to get...

[lyndonvang]

I check on ebay and they always have intakes for protege not the speed. IF I were to just add a filter do I just connect the MAF to the filter? What about the Air Temperature Sensor?

[orphman]

like is adi. let me know ill tell you(cool)

[lyndonvang]

I have some 3" IC pipes. Is there a way to make a CAI without moving the coolant reserve? What is your process for DIY?

[micahlarson]

like is adi. let me know ill tell you(cool)

well let me know how to make one

[orphman]

well let me know how to make one
will do let me get you some info up...

[msp35]

I have some 3" IC pipes. Is there a way to make a CAI without moving the coolant reserve? What is your process for DIY?

Use a 90* bend straight off the turbo. Turn the tube so it bends down, attached some sort of bracked to the intercooler/radiator support and
you're done. You could probably have an exhaust shop do it for less than 100.

On the other hand there was a company called Spool that made a CAI for the msp. Connects to the maf and through the fender....got mine used for 100.

[Swerny]

you could just remove the air box and put a filter there. That was my first mod the day I picked up the car.

FYI.
Dyno proven to lose power as the fans blow hot air into the filter.

[ViDeo^_^kiD]

yeah the intake is really just engine bay eye candy... the only gains you'll get is the sweet sucking sound and enhanced turkey noise from the BPV. Just add a K&N to the stock set up and you'll get the same performance gains

Not true newb, especially w/ boosted cars.

If you can't afford an intake system, then don't bother touching the engine. Get a K&N filter and call it a day. May get 1 or 2 more horsepower. Cold air intakes on the otherhand depending on the engine(meaning not just mazdas) will give you 5 to 20 hp. And if your wondering what gives you 20, its a Ford Mustang 5.0.

PCV pipe if your feeling cheap and squirrely.

Your not going to "feel" a 5hp difference, so people that say "they dont feel anything" are right b/c u shouldn't.

[leetpcguy]

wow

[zumzumzoom03]

(boom07)

[ViDeo^_^kiD]

(boom07)

[Blake]

lol I think someone else here might be a newb as well ^.^

[ViDeo^_^kiD]

Im sure Injen is lying, and are completely stupid. The whole notion of CAI's for any car must be complete nonsense.

More air, and the colder and denser it is...more power. Bigger intake, bigger throttle body, bored intake manifolds. It all goes hand in hand and does little but alot together. Especially w/ a 4 cylinder car.

[Kypatrick]

I been searching and can't find any SRI/CAI that are made for the MSP that aren't Fujita,Injen,AEM,WeaponR. Is there any cheap SRI/CAI for MSP? Hp gain are all about the same right?


I made a SRI from a Intake Kit off ebay. I basically just removed the stock box and added a 90 pipe with a AEM dryflow. I had to modify and move the Radiator reservior and drill a 7/8 hole in the Tube to get the AIT Sensor in it. It wasnt that hard, and other peeps might think its ghetto, but it beats $300 for an AEM or Injen CAI. have pics if interested.

[Kansei]

<3 someone who joined probably a couple days ago calling a member who has been here longer a noob.. haha

how old are you?

[ViDeo^_^kiD]

I don't care how long hes been here. His information is wrong. I'm 21 and have been modding cars since I was 16.

[Kansei]

I don't care how long hes been here. His information is wrong. I'm 21 and have been modding cars since I was 16.

Look, if the intake gains 4whp at 2000rpm, who gives a damn? The stock intake on these cars isn't that poorly designed.

[mspHtown]

So you are saying spending 300 dollars on a "dyno proven" intake is worth less than 5hp?! It is a waste of money especially when the stock air box flows well enough. Since you know so much about modding, did you know that putting an intake on some newer cars actually hurts performance?!

[ViDeo^_^kiD]

For his case, sure. For the intention of modifying a car for future performance add ons, and the most potential power...no. I don't know the exact dimensions of the Injen cold air intake. The last car I owned, everything had to be custom made including the intake. If you put plain piping either aluminum or PVC pipe etc, say 3" and a 8" K&N cone intake you are going to get gains. Just because you are giving the engine the ability to get denser air(if outside the engine bay), more air flow (if placed in proper area) and at the same time, more air w/ bigger pipe and intake.

Then the idea of air ducts, and restriction of air inside straight pipes also is a factor to success. The longer the pipe, the more turbulant, etc etc.

And what newer car is this? If your going to try to bash what I'm saying, atleast be specific.

[mspHtown]

my friend has a rex and it hurts performance to put an CAI on the car stock.

[Sleepy]

Yep, seen a magazine test of CAIs for the WRX and some actually lost power.

[orphman]

gents!!! WHO CARES... he asked for a cheaper way.. not our opinon on if it was a good mod... right?!

[leetpcguy]

guess so. If I was going to get one, I'd definitely not put anything from the Home Depot under my hood. I'd at least get polished metal or something.

[orphman]

guess so. If I was going to get one, I'd definitely not put anything from the Home Depot under my hood. I'd at least get polished metal or something.
agreed.. but you can take existing APC kits from hondas and make a cut add a coupler and your set... 50$ roughly...

[msptn03]

iam reading all this about intakes and not one word about the perrin foam intake! whats the scoop on it? is it good or bad??!?

[Blake]

Your All N3wbs

[Kansei]

Your All N3wbs
(mswerd) me too.

[lyndonvang]

O.K. I just made my CAI the ghetto way like Kypatrick. Put a 70-90 degree 3" IC pipe on the MAF and through the open hole on the side. Makes the trukey very loud. Have a generic filter plan on puting a K&N filter. What is the best size? I thinking of 3" hole for pipe, 6" bottom, 4-5" tip and 5-6" length. Is the 8" length better? So far cost is ZERO for CAI, already had all the parts.

[tehturbo]

Cold air intake on my 1992 bmw 325is showed 6 whp peak gain and 20 lb/ft lost through the whole rpm range. needless to say, i put the airbox back on.

[baconbitz]

^hahaha.

[ViDeo^_^kiD]

Hrmmm... I wonder why alot of Mazdas are running fuel rich?

The stock air box is limited, end of coversation. You can not run aftermarket modifications w/ bigger turbos, manifolds, throttle bodies, intercoolers, injectors, boost w/o a bigger intake!!!! Do you people understand? A stock engine w/ just a CAI isn't going do much for performance.

Cold Air Intakes can get more air to engine. Which in turn, evens out air to fuel ratios. As long as there is a proper air mass flow sensor and tuning, its going to help.

CAI also give you better gas mileage, b/c it lets the engine burn air/fuel at the right rate which can save gas the PCM is telling the engine to use w/ the stock air box.

CAI intakes give you better throttle response, b/c hot/limited air makes an engine more sluggish off the line. More rapidly flowing free cold, air boosts the engines response time.

You lucky you all have turbos, b/c a supercharged engine would let you know its running rich.

[low_psi]

K&N panel filter and stock airbox...

[Kypatrick]

my friend has a rex and it hurts performance to put an CAI on the car stock.


T-Rex?

[Kypatrick]

O.K. I just made my CAI the ghetto way like Kypatrick. Put a 70-90 degree 3" IC pipe on the MAF and through the open hole on the side. Makes the trukey very loud. Have a generic filter plan on puting a K&N filter. What is the best size? I thinking of 3" hole for pipe, 6" bottom, 4-5" tip and 5-6" length. Is the 8" length better? So far cost is ZERO for CAI, already had all the parts.


That is exactly what I did. know just get a better filter ($30-$55) and it only cost u the filter price. Great Minds think alike. There is another Thread on here where a guy did the same thing, then made a plate to go around the filter, blocking the Engine heat.
I dont care what anybody says about the stupid stock box, it draws air from right there in the Engine Bay, so getting closer to that fender (above that openeing) has gotta be better, plus the K&N and AEM Dryflow Filters have better flow than that paper crap.
I do know that a Evos stock intake w/ a K&N is better that a CAI on stock tuning. Super Street Mag did a test. So I can see where some r good, but ours isnt up front like the Evos.

[mspHtown]

dude our cars dont run rich because of the stock air box... what in the world are you talking about. the stock ecu dumps shit tons of fuel in boost WHICH MAKES THE CAR RUN RICH. Upgrading intake will not cure this problem. thank god you dont know a thing about these cars.

[mspHtown]

T-Rex?


lol yes a dinosaur

[BradC]

Hrmmm... I wonder why alot of Mazdas are running fuel rich?


Cold Air Intakes can get more air to engine. Which in turn, evens out air to fuel ratios. As long as there is a proper air mass flow sensor and tuning, its going to help.



What??

[tehturbo]

If science didn't apply, his theory would be badass.

[jmv]

hahaha. roflness.

i wish i had a heatshield or something for my SRI though..... since i can't use the CAI hole. Maybe one of these days i'll manage to get a custom one worked up.

[Blake]

Hrmmm... I wonder why alot of Mazdas are running fuel rich?

The stock air box is limited, end of coversation. You can not run aftermarket modifications w/ bigger turbos, manifolds, throttle bodies, intercoolers, injectors, boost w/o a bigger intake!!!! Do you people understand? A stock engine w/ just a CAI isn't going do much for performance.

Cold Air Intakes can get more air to engine. Which in turn, evens out air to fuel ratios. As long as there is a proper air mass flow sensor and tuning, its going to help.

CAI also give you better gas mileage, b/c it lets the engine burn air/fuel at the right rate which can save gas the PCM is telling the engine to use w/ the stock air box.

CAI intakes give you better throttle response, b/c hot/limited air makes an engine more sluggish off the line. More rapidly flowing free cold, air boosts the engines response time.

You lucky you all have turbos, b/c a supercharged engine would let you know its running rich.



bahaha your a n3wb, YOU know nothing about these cars apparently. I could put an 8" intake on this car...but with stock ecu it will run 11 a/r sometimes pegging 10. Blkzoomzoom trapped a 104 on the stock Air Box. He said with a k&n with a stock setup(which 99.3 % of us are running) you could not out flow the stock airbox.

[orphman]

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bahaha your a n3wb
lol .... thats all you say!!! (blah)

[Blake]

there edited :-)

[Blake]

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lol .... thats all you say!!! (blah)
(breakn)

[orphman]

(breakn)
hahahahahaahahh(band2)

[Kypatrick]

The n3wb shit isnt cool.(flame) I am basically a newb and admit to not knowing much. I
dont think its right to poke at him because hes new. Even tho he confuses me!

[mspHtown]

actually if hes spreading all this false information then YES it is right to call him a newb and to warn ppl he is an idiot. this forum has SOOOO much misinformation because of ppl like this.

[FlyinMSP]

Before starting a debate on the stock box, please do SEARCH! It has been debated, tested, argued and finalized. Stock box is better for torque (or low-end power if you prefer)

PS: This is meant for the newcomrers...