How to: Clean your engine with seafoam!

[jeg0024]

As requested...

1. Pull hose off brake booster(just to the left of the brake fluid resivor)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/jeg0024/DSC03716.jpg

2. Start car, have someone stay in the car to revv it up incase it tires to die

3. Stick brake booster line into seafoam bottle and let it suck it up a bit at a time

4. After 1/3 to 1/2 of the bottle is gone shut the car off and let sit for 5-10 mins, dont forget to re-connect the brake booster line. The rest of the seafoam can either be saved for another time or dumped into the fuel to help clean as well!

5. Start car back up, play with the throttle if it dont start right up, then let idle for a min or two

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/jeg0024/DSC03717.jpg

6. Take it for a short ride untill the exhause clears up, park it and disconnect the negitive battery terminal and pump the brakes for 30mins to clear the cel, or just touch the - to the + and be done with it

7. Reconnect the terminals and your good to go!

Any questions? Post HERE (http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123637100)

You can also use seafoam in your oil, I have yet to try this though, so in reguards to that method refer to the above link, thanks.

Thanks.

[amsgator]

this site is helpful for other applications like the oil.

http://members.nuvox.net/~on.roz/cars/z28/seafoam.html

[jeg0024]

this site is helpful for other applications like the oil.

http://members.nuvox.net/~on.roz/cars/z28/seafoam.html

Thanks!

[amsgator]

i'm still not sure about the throttle body part. i dont know what blades they are talking about

"15. Spray Sea Foam Deep Creep into throttle body, fully soaking the blades, the bottom, top, and up and down into the intake manifold behind the throttle body. Use a good amount."

[jeg0024]

i'm still not sure about the throttle body part. i dont know what blades they are talking about

"15. Spray Sea Foam Deep Creep into throttle body, fully soaking the blades, the bottom, top, and up and down into the intake manifold behind the throttle body. Use a good amount."

Probably just the butterfly thing in the throttle body, none of that stuff is car specific anyways. I didnt feel like taking off my intake piping tho, its so much easier to use the brake booster line.

[Kansei]

Note to people: seafoam and seafoam "deep creep" are different products. One is a spray kinda like PB Blaster, while the other is just a liquid in a can that you suck or pour into various parts of your car to do a sort of steam cleaning of the head. I have used seafoam in my gas and oil, just make sure you wait until you have like 1/8th of a tank left, then put some in both, then drive for a while (20 miles or so, as close to empty as you feel comfortable doing) and then change ze oil.

I only did it in the oil and gas once though.. it's a petroleum-based thing so I doubt it'll really ruin anything.. people have been using it for many, many years.

[amsgator]

Note to people: seafoam and seafoam "deep creep" are different products. One is a spray kinda like PB Blaster, while the other is just a liquid in a can that you suck or pour into various parts of your car to do a sort of steam cleaning of the head. I have used seafoam in my gas and oil, just make sure you wait until you have like 1/8th of a tank left, then put some in both, then drive for a while (20 miles or so, as close to empty as you feel comfortable doing) and then change ze oil.

I only did it in the oil and gas once though.. it's a petroleum-based thing so I doubt it'll really ruin anything.. people have been using it for many, many years.

did u have to change ur oil twice? someone told me the first new oil u put it in will turn black immediately from everything the seafoam got off that the old oil left behind. so u then need to change that oil for new fresh oil and ur good to go. ?

[amsgator]

no need to change oil if i am just running it in the brake booster and gas correct?

[jeg0024]

no need to change oil if i am just running it in the brake booster and gas correct?

Correct.

[Chicoloco]

great! thanks :-) thanks Jeg :-)

[Kansei]

I don't remember where I am "supposed" to suck it in via now that I'm turbo. I guess the brake booster line should still have vacuum. Well I'm probably gonna do this in a couple mins so I'll let you guys know.

[amsgator]

someone said you shouldnt do it if you are turbo. then someone else said you should be fine as long as you don't go into boost while sucking it up and letting it clean. i'm not sure.....

[Chicoloco]

Ok, i did this to my Protege and my 92 Suzuki Sidekick.

The suzuki made a lot of smoke! But the protege didn't (dunno), just a bit, maybe it wasn't that dirty. I put some on in the crank and in the fuel too, in the suzuki. I put most of the sea foam in the crank and booster line for the protege. I bought two cans. Maybe i'll buy a fuel infection cleaner.

I changed the oil on both cars. Drove both for a while before changing the oil. I read at the link provided before that you drive the car 500 (?) miles or so, before changing the oil.

I think I noticed that the suzuki runs better. But since i don't drive it (my wife) i'll have to ask her later in the week if she notices something (if she does, because women notice anything in cars...).

For my car, well i notice the engine bay is quieter. But my car didn't have idle problems.

What i do notice is that there is a noise everytime i turn the A/C on, i can't tell if it's the compressor, the A/C pulley belt (and i changed it recently and i already see wear on it) or a exahust leak. I notice it more when the A/C is on.

I give this procedure 8 out of 10. (good, recommended).

[Chicoloco]

Oh, i had the CEL, but it went away, way before 30 minutes.

[CulRidr]

Well, I did this just before my oil change yesterday...all went well.

Put the seafoam into the crankcase and the fuel tank before going in for my oil change. Did the oil change (oil was pretty black), and then poored the remaining third, gently, into the brake booster line. Throttle was kept at a ~steady 2000rpm since the idle was getting pretty rough, and the CEL eventually started flashing (got rid of it with the reset ECU). Didn't get any smoke that I could see (was kinda dark last night) which is probably a sign that the engine was pretty clean (not surprized though).
The idle was a little rough for a while, almost wanting to stall, but after a few very high RPM runs (near redline), it finally settled. --> you'll notice after a couple of runs that the idle goes low, then settles at regular RPM...a couple more high RPM runs and she's clear to go.

I haven't noticed too much of a difference, but considering how black the oil was, and the fact that I did get rough idle after the intake cleaning (maybe because the seafoam had dislodged some carbon deposits?), I'm sure it didn't hurt at all either :)

[amsgator]

did u have to change ur oil twice? someone told me the first new oil u put it in will turn black immediately from everything the seafoam got off that the old oil left behind. so u then need to change that oil for new fresh oil and ur good to go. ?

anyone confirmed this? i also put my seafoam through the vacuum lime that connects to the cruise control...which line is it being run through in the 1st picture?

[jeg0024]

Its the big hose right in the middle of the pic that goes into the master cylnder with the butterfly clamp on it.

[amsgator]

just under the 3 hoses at the top? so do you just follow the hose to where it ends and pull it out. i take mine off the cruise control. is it a different line? sorry for the small picture, it's all i had

[jeg0024]

Remove the hose under those 3 small lines where the clamp is and just stick it in the bottle. I dont have cruise control but im sure as long as its a vacume line attached to the IM its fine.

[amsgator]

yea it's to the IM and it comes out like the pic. i just didnt see where that line came off. i might not even have that b/c as far as i know what i use the the brake booster. i can check though

[Scott]

Couple of pointers.

1. Change your oil within a day or two of Seafoaming the car. Better safe than sorry.

2. Pull your O2 sensors and cap their openings before doing this. Leaving them in will greatly reduce their effective lifespan.

[amsgator]

oops i dont usually remove my o2 sensors. i dont think i have the caps for the holes so i dont have a choice :(

[GBean]

I have never heard of seafoam. can I get it at any auto parts store?

[StealthWyvern]

I have never heard of seafoam. can I get it at any auto parts store?


yep you can pick it up at any autozone or othe parts store more then likely

[GBean]

k thanks will get some tomorrow. Hopefully will give me some mileage back.

Should I really take the O2 sensors out and plug the holes? if so anyone know what size and thread pitch plugs to get?

[jeg0024]

k thanks will get some tomorrow. Hopefully will give me some mileage back.

Should I really take the O2 sensors out and plug the holes? if so anyone know what size and thread pitch plugs to get?

If your worried about the sensors you can remove them and probably just use some non-foulers(if you can plug the little hole with something) to cap them off. I personally would go through all the troubles but still everyone should know that there still is a minor risk of messing one up. I didn't have any problems tho. If you have any questions on how to do this man just ask, ill be glad to help.:)

[GBean]

thanks, I feel like this is Alcoholics Anonymous and you are my sponsor tonight.

Hey did you read about the rim I destroyed today? Cosmetically anyway.

[jeg0024]

yep you can pick it up at any autozone or othe parts store more then likely

Yep, its back by the additives and stuff. And it shouldn't more than $6 and some change:)

[jeg0024]

thanks, I feel like this is Alcoholics Anonymous and you are my sponsor tonight.

Hey did you read about the rim I destroyed today? Cosmetically anyway.

Nope:( Haven't even gotten to that PM yet, stealth is bothering me. lol

[StealthWyvern]

thanks, I feel like this is Alcoholics Anonymous and you are my sponsor tonight.

Hey did you read about the rim I destroyed today? Cosmetically anyway.

I've ran seafoam 4 times on my car so far and haven't removed the 02's out of it and my car has over 154k miles on it. So you know I have more crap that can be blown out the exhuast from the seafoam! Its good stuff to mang! lol

[jeg0024]

I've ran seafoam 4 times on my car so far and haven't removed the 02's out of it and my car has over 154k miles on it. So you know I have more crap that can be blown out the exhuast from the seafoam! Its good stuff to mang! lol

Why? Its like a once every 50k kinda thing man?! You shoulda only done it 3 times lol:p

[StealthWyvern]

Why? Its like a once every 50k kinda thing man?! You shoulda only done it 3 times lol:p


yeah but i wanted to make sure it was clean... besides its cool to smoke out your neighborhood and kill all the mystiques! Plus its cheap to boot!

[jeg0024]

yeah but i wanted to make sure it was clean... besides its cool to smoke out your neighborhood and kill all the mystiques! Plus its cheap to boot!

Sure...:p

[hotrippr]

Another nice write up jeg, thanks again.
I did this recently, used the brake booster line that is pictured from jeg, also used a McDs straw to feed it, worked great except it sucked it up really quick I used half the bottle in the line and dumped the rest in gas tank. Had no problems with fouling plugs or anything. Runs great.

[jeg0024]

Another nice write up jeg, thanks again.
I did this recently, used the brake booster line that is pictured from jeg, also used a McDs straw to feed it, worked great except it sucked it up really quick I used half the bottle in the line and dumped the rest in gas tank. Had no problems with fouling plugs or anything. Runs great.


Thanks again:) lol.

[tdeez]

I just seafoamed my 2002 P5 (115,000 miles) and it worked great! The idle is MUCH better and I even notice a little more pep when I accelerate! Great write-up!

[jeg0024]

I just seafoamed my 2002 P5 (115,000 miles) and it worked great! The idle is MUCH better and I even notice a little more pep when I accelerate! Great write-up!

Thats good:) Glad I could help!


Thanks!

[amsgator]

Why? Its like a once every 50k kinda thing man?! You shoulda only done it 3 times lol:p

in the brake booster? i do mine like every 7k or so. is that bad? usually like every other oil change

[red95_240sx]

If i dump this in the gas, will the car smoke as long as i have that same tank of gas?

Also i think i read ont he back of mines "safe for 0xygen sensors" maybe i have the new stuff. :-)

[red95_240sx]

I just did it through the brake booster(bastard really sucks) There were times when the line got stuck to the can. Im surprised i didnt get a CEL.

Still w8ing on answers for the gas tank. I dont have much gas so ill probly do it soon anyhow.

[hotrippr]

I put half the can in my tank, there wasnt any smoke.

[StealthWyvern]

I put half the can in my tank, there wasnt any smoke.

It will only smoke goign though the brake booster vac line

[red95_240sx]

I see. I also unplugged the EGR, no CEL yet.

not to mention the scary as intake noises of a choking car.

[2.0t03speed]

i have a queston about doing it on the brake booster line. i have a vacume block on my brake booster line that goes to my truboost,prosport boost gauge,dsm afc, and bov now can i still do it on there or should i do it on another line like the line that goes to the pcv valve instead?

[StealthWyvern]

i have a queston about doing it on the brake booster line. i have a vacume block on my brake booster line that goes to my truboost,prosport boost gauge,dsm afc, and bov now can i still do it on there or should i do it on another line like the line that goes to the pcv valve instead?

Can't you disconnect all that stuff temp moment?

[2.0t03speed]

yea i guess i could

[GoProtege]

I love seafoam It's so much fun until someone calls the fire dept cuz they think your house is on fire.

[amsgator]

lol. that's funny

[U-Turn]

Hi,

I have just did the sea foam cleaning in my brake booster line. I have a Protege 2000 (1.6L). But now I have a problem when starting it. The car is having problem keeping 700 rpm and sometimes stop. I have to give gaz to keep it working. I am also having problem with the electronic when starting the car. So it might be because of that. Sometimes when I've been rolling with my car and then stop, I need to wait a couple of time to get enough power to start it back again.

Also, it might be because of pumping the brakes. Does I have to do it when the car is at idle or stop, anything I should know?

Anyway, if someone can help me with that, it would be much appreciated. Thx!

[Coqui258]

I just did seafoam today in my P5. She's been sick lately, she would vibrate at 500 rpms and act like she's gonna shut off. So I cleaned out the EGR valve (pain in the butt) and also today I took off the throttle body to clean the IAC (also major pain in the butt). I couldn't get the screws off to get at the IAC well, but I was still able to spray into it through the throttle.

I then used seafoam and it really did a great job on my car! The hesitation is gone, so far... but yeah, that stuff is pretty good! I'll probably do it every other oil change or so since it's so easy to do!

[jeg0024]

I just did seafoam today in my P5. She's been sick lately, she would vibrate at 500 rpms and act like she's gonna shut off. So I cleaned out the EGR valve (pain in the butt) and also today I took off the throttle body to clean the IAC (also major pain in the butt). I couldn't get the screws off to get at the IAC well, but I was still able to spray into it through the throttle.

I then used seafoam and it really did a great job on my car! The hesitation is gone, so far... but yeah, that stuff is pretty good! I'll probably do it every other oil change or so since it's so easy to do!

Glad to hear it helped, I wouldn't really over do it with the stuff though man. You really only need it when you need it, if ya know what I mean... it would be like cleaning out your EGR valve again next time you change the oil. Or something like that lol.

[Coqui258]

Yeah, very true indeed. If she acts up again, then I'll seafoam her once more...

Also, since I used about 1/3 a pint, I may want to use a little more to make sure I did a good clean. But nah, I'll just wait and see.

[jeg0024]

Yeah, very true indeed. If she acts up again, then I'll seafoam her once more...

Also, since I used about 1/3 a pint, I may want to use a little more to make sure I did a good clean. But nah, I'll just wait and see.

Putting some in your current tank of gas cant hurt, and will make sure you get the insides of the fuel injectors and all the fuel lines:)

[probin94]

wish i still had the video from phone. recorded all the smoke. did it around like 90k i think. smoked the hell out of my buddies nieghborhood. then for a little while after while driving id hit WOT to clean her out....looked like a jet fighter with the smoke trails. awesome stuff....works well...added to the vacuum line, the oil and gas. i think it says to use every 5,000 miles. im sure thats overkill...once every now and then should be good. and yeah this pretty much cuts as a fuel additive(cleaner).




james

[red95_240sx]

i didnt get so much smoke, or i wasnt really looking. None while i was driving.

[jeg0024]

^thats good, means it was clean.

I did it to a saturn the other day and we smoke screened the whole negihborhood before and after we let it soak in the engine. It was fun:)

[GBean]

anyone want to post any MPG improvements after seafoaming? I bought a can a few months ago, but cant seem to get the motivation up to do it, that and my neighbor keeps jinxing me saying it will run things.....what does he know? he changes tires for a living....

[jeg0024]

It says on the bottle you can't, and whats gonna happen? Its impossible to hydro-lock the motor with it. And if something does go wrong its up to sea-foam to replace your motor. Just do it man, it takes like 10 mins and if your motor is dirty its pretty cool.

[red95_240sx]

wow it was clean

[GBean]

true but is it up to sea foam to give me a loaner whilst my car is being fixed?
Besides, who wants to have to prove it was their product that caused the problem?

It says on the bottle you can't, and whats gonna happen? Its impossible to hydro-lock the motor with it. And if something does go wrong its up to sea-foam to replace your motor. Just do it man, it takes like 10 mins and if your motor is dirty its pretty cool.

[jeg0024]

Who said it was even going to do anything? If your worried about using it then dont:) I dont know how else to say it.

[GBean]

I was just playing devil's advocate, and messing with your drunk self!

I am going to use it, when I get a free minute, and the car is here.

[jeg0024]

cool

[Protege5 Driver]

what is seafoam?

[autoxes]

Its a freakin' awesome engine cleaning agent.

[Protege5 Driver]

i have heard about it but never actually seen it

[StealthWyvern]

what is seafoam?

This is what everyone is talking about.
http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm

[FunkRider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZf4WXwVL_E

[Not Jo3L]

Do you have to reset the ecu after pulling the break booster line or can you drive off to get it cleared at autozone?

[probin94]

when i did mine i just turned the car back on and drove.....had a CEL but it went away the next day. still had carbon coming out after i turned it on and started driving.


james

[Not Jo3L]

Allright because Id rather not reset the ecu..I do that too often and have shit mpg because of it.

[leetpcguy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQVuqN_cAGI
Video of me doing my car. Notice the ping right on startup. I thought that was weird.

[Not Jo3L]

Looks like the seafoam exposed an exhaust leak..cuz now my car is twice as loud...should I put the rest of the seafoam to check for further leaks or dump it in my fuel (half a tank) and oil?

[NCZ13]

dont put it in your oil unless your planning on changing your oil within the next hundred miles or so.

seafoam breaks down oil.

[Not Jo3L]

dont put it in your oil unless your planning on changing your oil within the next hundred miles or so.

seafoam breaks down oil.

yeah I am changing my oil real soon

[whitemp5seattle]

seafoamed the engine today through the brake booster vac line. took 10 minutes for the whole thing. thanks for the write-up! (2thumbs)

[jeg0024]

seafoamed the engine today through the brake booster vac line. took 10 minutes for the whole thing. thanks for the write-up! (2thumbs)

NP, things running smoother?

[ForceFed]

NP, things running smoother?
Running smootly right into a tree.....

He wrecked it a bit ago...check out his thread.

[whitemp5seattle]

yeah running a little too smooth I guess! the road couldn't even handle the smoothness lol

pics (http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123699794)

[red95_240sx]

lol. wait is this funny, must not be bad?

[whitemp5seattle]

well, it's not a good thing per se, but if I don't laugh it off I'll probably end up crying it off lol. just trying to keep on the positive side of things :) nobody got hurt and the car is just a car. I sure am gonna miss driving it though!

[MotorWave]

just did this, in the crank, chamber, and tank. worked great, not a ton of smoke but enough. my oil was dirty, but it turned black after I drove around a bit with the seafoam. changed it, no cel, everything feels smooth and it doesn't hesitate to redline or idle anymore, thanks gj

[GBean]

Anyone see any gas mileage improvement after seafoaming?

[leetpcguy]

It is from my personal experience that in order to hit all the cylinders evenly, it is best to remove the engine cover, and put it into the pcv line. This way it evenly hits every cylinder

[jeg0024]

I thought the PCV only got 1 and 4? Brake booster sucks it in through the intake so you not only get all 4 but you get the butterflies in the intake as well. Maybe I'm mistaken? Not to mention putting it in the fuel to get the injectors, all 4 cylnders, fuel lines, fuel filter and fuel tank.

[jeg0024]

Anyone see any gas mileage improvement after seafoaming?

Yeah, but minimal. Its only $7, if that, and that don't buy you much these days.

[jeg0024]

just did this, in the crank, chamber, and tank. worked great, not a ton of smoke but enough. my oil was dirty, but it turned black after I drove around a bit with the seafoam. changed it, no cel, everything feels smooth and it doesn't hesitate to redline or idle anymore, thanks gj

Awesome! I think I'll do my oil when I get home, my car has been sitting for 5 months. The oil was new when I left but its gonna need changed when I get home anyways.

[leetpcguy]

I believe that the PCV get all the cylinders. At least thats what it looked like when i took my intake manifold off.

[GBean]

Yeah, but minimal. Its only $7, if that, and that don't buy you much these days.

$5.99 a can at Kragen/Checker/Schucks here.
I have 1.5 bottles of the stuff sitting around that I havent used on the mazda yet.

I am gonna have to put 1/2 of the one bottle in my Datsun's Gas tank to see if it clears my gummed up carb a little. The darn thing hasnt had a smooth idle since I bought it last June.

[leetpcguy]

$5.99 a can at Kragen/Checker/Schucks here.
I have 1.5 bottles of the stuff sitting around that I havent used on the mazda yet.

I am gonna have to put 1/2 of the one bottle in my Datsun's Gas tank to see if it clears my gummed up carb a little. The darn thing hasnt had a smooth idle since I bought it last June.

I can vouch for its carb cleaning affects. After using it on my Kawasaki Ninja, it cleaned out so much stuff that i had to reset my idle.

[GBean]

I can vouch for its carb cleaning affects. After using it on my Kawasaki Ninja, it cleaned out so much stuff that i had to reset my idle.

By what method did you clean the ninja?

[leetpcguy]

Just ran it through the gas, after which my bike idled higher than normal. Though later i did completely disassemble the carbs and clean them throughly.

[o.g.sk8er]

ok...so my friend and I seafoamed my car today. (P-5) We used the brake booster hose with another small hose going from it, to the can of sea foam. We stared the car, and before we knew it, it sucked up the entire contents of the can! (boom06) The car is smoking like crazy, naturally. So we drive around for a few miles and the smoke subsides. I go home and change the oil and just now go out to get gas and its still smoking badly.
Is it bad that I used the whole can by mistake? I'm a little worried.
I really only wanted to used about half the can. Will it eventually burn off?

Thanks all!

[Not Jo3L]

Pat I used the whole can as well..your supposed to do 1/3 brake booster..1/3 oil and 1/3 gas tank. I did more like 2/3 brake booster and 1/3 gas because I didnt want to put it in the oil..however I could do it now cuz im changing my oil next week. The reason why you dont want to suck it up fast is because you are giving the car less time for it to fully reach every part of the cylinders. All my smoke burned off after about 10 mins of reving the engine..and then about another 10 on the streets at WOT. Let me know if it all goes away by tommorrow.

[o.g.sk8er]

Thanks Joel. That make me feel better. hehe
This morning I didnt see any smoke, but I only drive about 1 mile to the train station. So, my car is not fully warmed up. I only noticed the smoke after my car was fully warmed up. Maybe I'll go for a little drive after work today and see what happens. Thanks again Joel! I'll keep you posted.

[leetpcguy]

Sk8er, If you put it in through the brake booster, it could have pooled in the bottom of your intake, thus taking a while for it to get into your engine. Overnight it could have evaporated and thats why you didn't have any smoke this morning.

[Not Jo3L]

Thanks Joel. That make me feel better. hehe
This morning I didnt see any smoke, but I only drive about 1 mile to the train station. So, my car is not fully warmed up. I only noticed the smoke after my car was fully warmed up. Maybe I'll go for a little drive after work today and see what happens. Thanks again Joel! I'll keep you posted.

Also you have the stock exhaust pieces on..which probably have more crap then my less than 1 year old exhaust pieces.

[o.g.sk8er]

haha..funny, the stock parts that I just put on have been off the car for about 4 years. lol

leet- I hope your right...I'm going out for a drive in about 20 minutes. Hopefully no problems.

Thanks guys!

[StealthWyvern]

haha..funny, the stock parts that I just put on have been off the car for about 4 years. lol

leet- I hope your right...I'm going out for a drive in about 20 minutes. Hopefully no problems.

Thanks guys!



sk8er,
I have ran two cans through my brake line on my car due to the high milage with no ill effects.

[o.g.sk8er]

sk8er,
I have ran two cans through my brake line on my car due to the high milage with no ill effects.

Awesome. I'm happy to hear this. Thank you.
While driving home tonight, I saw no smoke. Car started up nice and crisp, seems to drive ok, so I guess I shouldn't worry.

Thanks very much! You guys are great! (group)

[GBean]

Put about 1/3 can in a full tank (10 Gallons!) on my Datsun today.
I may be hallucinating but I am already getting better mileage and the idle is a bit more smooth.

[jeg0024]

^sounds right to me lol

[StealthWyvern]

^sounds right to me lol

that hes on hallucinating due tot he fumes fromt he seafoam or drugs possably? lol jk

[o.g.sk8er]

So my car is still smoking badly. wtf? Smells real bad too. It's not just a little smoke, I'm mean the whole street looks like I did a huge burnout. Now I'm getting worried. How can I check to see if there is a real problem or not?

[Cellerator]

did you change your oil after you seafoamed it sk8er? I think I'm going to give this a shot very soon because I've got a rough idling issue right now and I need to clean my EGR valve also.

[o.g.sk8er]

yea..I changed it right after. Last night I pulled my dipstick to look at the oil, and it seems really thin...almost water like. Surprising, the idle is better. lol

[dirtyd]

I've done something sort of like this with vehicles I've owned in the past. I put the seafoam in the PCV valve to get sucked right into the injectors. I pour the seafoam in fast enough so that as soon as I'm about 1/2 bottle the engine dies. Let it sit for 5-10 minutes allowing that seafoam to soak and then start up your car. Never had a CEL (non turbo'd cars). The remaining 1/2 bottle goes strait in the gas tank. Only smokes for a couple blocks down the street before it burns off. This might be easier for some people? Depending on what they want to clean I guess...

[mgerst1]

yea..I changed it right after. Last night I pulled my dipstick to look at the oil, and it seems really thin...almost water like. Surprising, the idle is better. lol

Did you put seafoam in the oil too? seafoam breaks down oil.

[mgerst1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQVuqN_cAGI
Video of me doing my car. Notice the ping right on startup. I thought that was weird.

Have you had any adverse affects since you did this about a month ago? Did it do anything to your turbo, it was never really determined that it could mess up the turbo when getting sucked into the brake booster line?

[o.g.sk8er]

Did you put seafoam in the oil too? seafoam breaks down oil.


no I didnt put any in the oil. I was too scurred to. lol

[Cellerator]

Is this the brake booster line? I need to make sure so I don't f it up...

[o.g.sk8er]

yeppers..thats it.

when you pull the hose off, dont worry about the air escaping. lol

[StealthWyvern]

dont worry if the car is kinda starting up for the first time... its nomral... Whatever you do make sure you hooked up the brake line back up before you go for a drive.

[mgerst1]

could someone post a pic of the pcv line, i am new to actually working on cars and of course chilton's doesnt make a manual for our cars much less any protege after 2000. I am going to seafom and was told since i have the msp to use the pcv line instead of the brake booster line.

[Tifun]

I did mine off the brake booster line. The car could barely idle with it off. It made a huge difference on idle and the powerband. The brakes felt a little spongy for the first minute or so after reconnecting the line. I suggest two people do it, so one can modulate throttle, around 1500-2000rpm to get smooth coverage while the other uses the hose to suck up the seafoam. After that I shut the car off for 5 minutes, then fired it up and got no smoke at first, then I goosed the throttle to smoke out the neighbors, so I went for a little drive away from the house lol.

We did this about six months ago, and actually used this write up because I couldn't find a better location closest to the TB that would allow the seafoam to hit all four cylinders evenly. I basically wanted to see if others used the brake booster line like I wanted to. Only took like 6 months for me to actually join the bopard and start posting haha.

[ForceFed]

. I put the seafoam in the PCV valve to get sucked right into the injectors. ...
Ummm...What?
In no way will running Seafoam or anyting else for that matter into your PCV line run ANYTHING through your injectors.
Period.
The only way to run something through the injectors is through the Fuel tank or lines to the Injectors.

Did you put seafoam in the oil too? seafoam breaks down oil.
No..It does NOT break down the oil.

If you read the can it is safe to run in your engine oil and is used to help clean out the depsoits and sludge in the engine that you could not otherwise get to.

I am running Seafoam in My work truck right now due to a sticky lifter and The Shop that does our Fleet work is who put it in there.
I would say they know what they are doing...Considering its their "Business" and not ours.

This is Just some FYI and to correct some flawed and incorrect statements.

[jeg0024]

^People are just a little slow around these parts I guess lol. I'll be doing my oil when I get home, along with installing new Tokico HB struts, Progress springs, and AWR side MM inserts. I can't wait to get home and mess around with my ride:)

[dirtyd]

Ummm...What?
In no way will running Seafoam or anyting else for that matter into your PCV line run ANYTHING through your injectors.
Period.
The only way to run something through the injectors is through the Fuel tank or lines to the Injectors.


I am sorry I frustrated you. Clearly I was wrong and I apologize...I was relaying what I was told by the Car-x guys when I told them my engine was running rough (1994 Jeep Grand Choroke). That was a quick fix they told me that would clean my injectors. After some research, yes, the PCV releases the blow-by gases back through the intake manifold. This part is after the injectors, and is cleaning a different part of the engine, assuming you pour some sort of cleansing agent through it. The second half of the bottle though, does go into my gas tank and therefore, like you said, will be run through the injectors and cleaning them. Its a way of cleaning both sides of your engine, if you want to look at it as fuel going in, and exhaust and fuel vapor "re-burned". Either way, there was a lot of carbon that was burned out of my engine and I was happy about it, lots of dark gray smoke. The two cars I have done this to seemed to idle smoother after I did this, so I will do it again in my future cars. Thank you for the correction.(2thumbs)

[misbehave]

going to try this on my 80K P5 and my 130K Corolla.

[cvp0917]

What about using the vacuum line from the intake to the valve cover? that way itll go through the turbo cause mine has carbon build up in it. that safe?

[jeg0024]

That goes into the crank case... (oil)

[cvp0917]

no i have carbom build up inside the compressor housing where the air passes through as it gets compressed. the crankcase has nothing to do with it.

[CantCMe]

I'll be doing this today...good write-up Jeg!!

[jeg0024]

Thanks bro!

[CantCMe]

Just finished using the Seafoam...motor runs alot better now. Works like a charm!!

[red95_240sx]

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[CantCMe]

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[MPChi]

Great write up. Had a place did the Sea Foam thingy for my old CRX in order to pass a failing smog check. So wanted to learn how to do it on my own on my MP3, since it can use a good tune up. Thanks for the help. I'll give it a try today.

[CantCMe]

The seafoam worked great...now I need (maybe) a mp3 ecu.

[MPChi]

Did the Sea Foam treatment today. 1/3 for the brake booster hose, 1/3 for the crank, and saving the remainder 1/3 for the gas tank later when the tank is not that full. Went pretty smoothly, but didn't get much smoke at all like most people do. Only see a tiny bit, and I guess thats actually a good thing, meaning my MP3 engine is still pretty clean at 80K miles. I did get a CEL, as my dad pour the sea foam really slow, while I am reving the engine. It was fine at first, but the CEL went on about a minute later, when my dad is still pouring...yeah. He went really slow LOL. So looks like if you let the tube suck the sea foam real fast, its less likely the CEL to come on. But no biggy. Just need to disconnect the battery to reset and get rid of it.

[StealthWyvern]

Did the Sea Foam treatment today. 1/3 for the brake booster hose, 1/3 for the crank, and saving the remainder 1/3 for the gas tank later when the tank is not that full. Went pretty smoothly, but didn't get much smoke at all like most people do. Only see a tiny bit, and I guess thats actually a good thing, meaning my MP3 engine is still pretty clean at 80K miles. I did get a CEL, as my dad pour the sea foam really slow, while I am reving the engine. It was fine at first, but the CEL went on about a minute later, when my dad is still pouring...yeah. He went really slow LOL. So looks like if you let the tube suck the sea foam real fast, its less likely the CEL to come on. But no biggy. Just need to disconnect the battery to reset and get rid of it.

Did you let the car set for a little bit after pooring into the booster vac line? My MSP smoked like a bat out of hell and it only had 59k on it when i did it. My Old P5 smoked pretty bad each time I did it to it(4 times full cans).

[MPChi]

I did, right after my dad finish pouring, I let go the gas pedal and turned off the engine for 5-10 minutes, as instructed. Then start it back up and rev it for a few minutes (which is when I would expect a lot of smoke like others, but I barely got any...), then took it for a spin for about 20 miles. I got a couple rough start up, and idle was not as stable, but they slowly went away as I drive it more. It runs pretty normal by the end of that 20 mile drive, as well as the engine start ups as I need to move my cars around to make room for the MP3 into the garage. Maybe pouring/sucking very little bit by bit kept the engine from choking, producing less smoke? Not too sure really.

[StealthWyvern]

I did, right after my dad finish pouring, I let go the gas pedal and turned off the engine for 5-10 minutes, as instructed. Then start it back up and rev it for a few minutes (which is when I would expect a lot of smoke like others, but I barely got any...), then took it for a spin for about 20 miles. I got a couple rough start up, and idle was not as stable, but they slowly went away as I drive it more. It runs pretty normal by the end of that 20 mile drive, as well as the engine start ups as I need to move my cars around to make room for the MP3 into the garage. Maybe pouring/sucking very little bit by bit kept the engine from choking, producing less smoke? Not too sure really.

Try it again if you want. You can do it by yourself but let it poor in faster to the point the car dies and let it set for a little bit. You will have tons of smoke I swear.

[the_jaf]

I may try this, i'm having rough idle problems even after changing spark plugs, spark plug wires and coils (attn)

[bidi]

I did this a while ago too.

My engine looked clean... even when I took the valve cover off right before doing an oil change, the oil in the head was amber clear, like new... not as chean in the crank case, but still not black.

It smoked like crazy, though, when I pourded in the seafoam.
I did it in a store parking lot, and the smoke was sto dense, it engulfed the near by restaurant.

I didn't really noticed any differences before or after doing it, but it was stil fun :D

[digitalslacker]

I did this treatment, but with berrymans b12 instead. That has a following in the contour forums so i figured i'd give it a try. I ran a full can through with some in the crank case and half a can in the tank and after about 100 miles of driving its running so much better. Oil change friday and new plugs and wires and it'll be good to go.

[StealthWyvern]

I did this treatment, but with berrymans b12 instead. That has a following in the contour forums so i figured i'd give it a try. I ran a full can through with some in the crank case and half a can in the tank and after about 100 miles of driving its running so much better. Oil change friday and new plugs and wires and it'll be good to go.

Member of CEG?

[digitalslacker]

You know it,

and your name looks familiar ;0

[grindMARC]

Bump for Seafoam! Give some as a holiday gift!
The problem started a couple of months ago with CEL misfires in cylinder 3. I ran at least 2 bottles of techron and a couple bottles of the Shell version of techron through it with no change. I replaced both oxygen sensors and the EGR (~$450). Still no change. Over the weekend I started getting misfires in cyl 1 too. This morning (0* F) the idle was really really rough. Before sending off the injectors to be serviced, I thought I'd give this seafoam stuff a try.

I "sucked up" about 8 oz worth via the brake boost vac hose, turned it off and let it sit for 5 mins. When I started it up I got lots of smoke like most here reported. After about 2 mins, the idle evened out and the smoke stopped. Its running NEAR perfect. I'm going to finish up this tank of gas (poured the remainder in there) and see how it is then. Maybe I'll run a few more ozs through the vac line if its not fully cleared up.

[yorel23]

Ok, I did the seafoam treatment last night on my 2003 Protege LX with 54k miles. The car is brand new to me and I was going to switch over to full synthetic anyway. So, I came across this thread and decided to try the Seafoam while I was at it. I followed the instructions here and put 2/3 bottle through the brake booster line. Put the rest in the oil. Boy did it smoke (steam?)! I did it in the parking lot at work and boy did I get a lot of weird looks. Great entertainment value if nothing else. I took it for a drive and cleared out the smoke. I immediately thought the idle was smoother and it ran great! I proceeded to change the oil. After changing the oil, I started it up and it ran fine at first. About 1/2 way home, it almost died at a stop light. The idle RPM dropped to about 300-400 and it continues to do it today. Every time I stop, the idle drops and the engine almost cuts out. Then it bucks and studders when trying to get going again. Once I'm up around 25mph it seems to run fine. Don't know what is wrong(dunno). Any suggestions?? Could I have fouled the plugs? Don't know where to start. I never did get a CEL during the whole process and still don't get one. Help!!!

[yorel23]

I think I figured it out. When I changed my oil, I also changed the air filter. I guess I got a little aggressive putting it back in and cracked the intake tube. I'll have to try taping it until I can find a new one.

[StealthWyvern]

I think I figured it out. When I changed my oil, I also changed the air filter. I guess I got a little aggressive putting it back in and cracked the intake tube. I'll have to try taping it until I can find a new one.

yeah a leak in the intake will cause werid issues like that.

[yorel23]

Replaced the intake tube and all is well again!!

[StealthWyvern]

Replaced the intake tube and all is well again!!

good to see your up and running right!

[_ERIC]

i did this a few weeks ago. i thought i felt a difference but it could just be me haha

[Omar MSP]

i got a check engine light all of a sudden and it smells like something is burning but my oil is full and clean and it was recently changed 2 weeks ago and there isn't any smoke coming from the exhaust. seafoaming it in a few minutes with my dad, i hope its just sludge or something thats making it stink and light up the cel.

i bet its gonna smoke a lot, gotta get that fixed to get it inspected.

[grindMARC]

seafoaming it in a few minutes with my dad, i hope its just sludge or something thats making it stink and light up the cel.

Don't do anything until you pull the code.

[slavrenz]

Don't do anything until you pull the code.

Fail. Sometimes the CEL will come on when seafoaming. Just clear the code or disconnect the battery cable and see if it comes back after you've driven all the Seafoam crap out of it.

[grindMARC]

Fail. Sometimes the CEL will come on when seafoaming. Just clear the code or disconnect the battery cable and see if it comes back after you've driven all the Seafoam crap out of it.

Go back and read the post, genius. He got the CEL BEFORE seafoam.

[Omar MSP]

im going to do a good drive cycle today, see if the light comes back on.

[hornsfan10609]

I ran seafoam a couple months back and the next day I got a CEL. I had to buy a new 1st O2 sensor as the seafoam had ruined it. Maybe it blew carbon into it and clogged the sensor or something, who knows, just beware when using Seafoam.

[destineal]

would the entire bottle be overkill? I did about half a bottle earlier today.

[shane02pro5]

Half in the gas tank and the other half sucked into the intake via a vac line.

[99ProtegeKV]

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[StealthWyvern]

I ran seafoam a couple months back and the next day I got a CEL. I had to buy a new 1st O2 sensor as the seafoam had ruined it. Maybe it blew carbon into it and clogged the sensor or something, who knows, just beware when using Seafoam.

How many miles where on your MSP when you dd it roughly?

[99ProtegeKV]

just did mine. added it to the brake booster while running.. but didnt turn off the engine after that..revved it up for a min or 2. blew alot of smoke..(neighbor actually came over and asked if my car was gunna explode LOL).. it threw a CEL so i unplugged the terminal and waited a lil while. and then put it back on,put the other half of the can into the oil. and about a 45 mins later took it for a ride around the block.. no CEL. and it seemed fine. better actually. a little less hesitation. idk ill be able to tell more when i drive it for over an hour to and from class tm.

[martispeed]

^^ you did change the oil after right??

[99ProtegeKV]

no. i plan to do it this weekend. the can says u can keep it in for extended cleaning... if not. then i have some oil changing to do tomorrow.. =[

[martispeed]

I wouldnt run it too much with the seafoam in there but thats me... From what I have read, my understanding is that it will break down the oil to a point where it might not lubricate your engine properly. Considering you added it to oil that has already been used for at least 3000 miles, I wouldnt trust it!

[99ProtegeKV]

ok so then the oil will be changed tomorrow. lol

[Omar MSP]

i attempted the seafoam treatment on my msp today, it really helped my rough idle a lot. runs smoother now.

[georgecastaneda]

what is the right amount of seafoam to poor? crankcase, vacuum hose and gas thank

answers would be appreciated

[HKPRO5]

1/3 all around.

[georgecastaneda]

how good is the seafoam? could it do any damage for the engine?

[georgecastaneda]

1/3 all around.

thanks for the answer

[GBean]

Seafoam wont do any damage as long as it is used correctly.

[georgecastaneda]

ok i just did the seafoam smoke went away now my question is how long do i leave the seafoam on the crankcase? should i change the oil now?

[GBean]

i understand that seafoam breaks oil down. you will want to change it within a day or two of driving.

[georgecastaneda]

i went out for a long drive and came back to the garage i got my oil changed now it feels kinda different now than before
i just put 4qt of 10w40 mobile 1 synthetic, mobile 1 filter and a engine restore additive is that ok?

[GBean]

Kinda different how?

[georgecastaneda]

smoother idle and better acceleration

[codex]

I ran seafoam through the p5 tonight. In the past I had run it though the cruise control line but for some reason I decided to put it through the PCV vacuum line. I couldn't see it too well because it was dark but not I'm unsure whether the PCV line runs to all cylinders or just to #1 and #4. Does anyone know for sure? Any pictures of the PCV vacuum inlet from inside the intake manifold? If it only went to #1 and #4 I'm gonna have to buy another can of it. Also it did not smoke very much, only a little bit for the first 10 seconds or so.

[hi-perf]

performed this today for the second time ever (last time was maybe 50K ago) and the idle is SO much better. feels like a new car and made me appreciate the twiggy cams more.

going to change oil tomm.

[hurleyblink]

Yeah I just did mine yesterday. Gave it the royal treatment. Did deadpan through brake booster, then added some to oil then went for a drive I was getting crazy looks .. Then put a qt through before adding oil pan bolt. Added some engine restore (smurf jizz) it's blue.. Lol also added fuel restore to gas tank . Car runs 100 percent better can barely hear it's on . Stuff really helps out noisy litters in these cars.

[ZG77_OzZ]

Need to try this, sucks is just got the tuneup done, seams it should not be an issue..

[tradosaurus]

Use Marvel Mystery Oil. I believe it works just as good as seafoam and is less expensive.
I've been using it long before seafoam came around.

[POLARBEARsMP3]

so this stops rough idling and hesitation? i just changed my oil so i dont need to put this in the crankcase.

[GBean]

I never have put it i'm the crankcase.

[POLARBEARsMP3]

but will this stops rough idling and hesitation so i want by throttle position sensor or something

[GBean]

It can a far as carbon deposits are concerned. If you have a faulty sensor it won't fix that. I'm not quite sure what you are asking about the tps though.

[Keno1542]

hesitation might sound like you have a bigger problem than seafoam can fix

[POLARBEARsMP3]

Sorry so I won't have to buy the tps

[POLARBEARsMP3]

How many times can u seafoam

[GBean]

As many times as is necessary . I wouldn't see a need for any more than once a year though....

[Kooldino]

As requested...
6. Take it for a short ride untill the exhause clears up, park it and disconnect the negitive battery terminal and pump the brakes for 30mins to clear the cel, or just touch the - to the + and be done with it


30 mins? Really? 30 seconds would be a stretch. LOL.

[POLARBEARsMP3]

whats the difference putting it in the brake booster or the pvc